Conference hydra::dejavu

    Wow, that's cool!
    
    :), danielle

    >It definitely means something...
    
    Why?
    
    Jamie.

    Re: .2
    
    >>It definitely means something...
    
    >Why?
    
    >Jamie.
    
    It means something for no other reason than the recurring aspect of it. 
    The reoccurance means it relates to something as yet unresolved.
    
    
    Re: .0
    
    Maybe if the pieces are looked at seperately: the beautiful, but stormy
    backdrop; the moving clockhand coming to a stop; the golden V.  What
    feelings do you associate with each seperate image (e.g. to me, the
    description of the storm evokes a feeling of elation and power, but may
    evoke something else to you)?  What else in your life evokes similar
    feelings?
    
    Good luck,
    Beth

    I Know what This dream Would mean to me...
    At High_Noon(Lunch_Break)..Go down to the Local V(VHW_Post)and 
    Kick_Back Fer A_While..
    
    
                 Crazy_Works_Fer_Me_Al

    >It means something for no other reason than the recurring aspect of it. 
    >The reoccurance means it relates to something as yet unresolved.
    
    Several times in my life I have had recurring dreams. Like other dreams
    they just faded in the morning and eventually stopped. Does recurrence
    have to mean something unresolved every time?

    I suffer from nightmares. I will get a string of them. They do have a
    significance, the bed/bedroom is too hot. I wake up enough to correct
    this and the nightmares go away. Is this the sort of significance you
    are looking for in this case?

    Jamie.

Thanks! 

RE: Beth - the clouds seemed 'powerful' to me too.  However, when I got home 
and told my husband about the dream, he explained it by saying that I have 
been watching too much MTV and would probably agree more with 
crazy_works_fer_me_al's translation! 


Don't know if I really believe that dreams can fore-tell anything...believe 
more that they are a re-hash of what you see/do when you are awake.  I believe 
they can be a place for you to manipulate situations to your liking without 
really having to deal with the circumstances or outcome.  fantasy.

...but yet, this cloud,clockhand,V dream seemed out of place.....

    Re: .0
    
    Your dream is showing the hour that is at hand.  Read the 24th chapter
    of St. Matthews , in the Bible concerning the last days. Then read the
    25th chapter of Matthews regarding the 10 virgins - 5 wise & 5 foolish.
    
    V = Velocity: Quickness or rapidness of motion or action; swiftness;
    speed. Rate of change of position, in relation of time - Rate of motion
    in a particular directio, as of the rotation of a sphere, in relation
    of time.
    
    V can also mean VICTORY. Especially if you are in Christ Jesus our Lord
    & Savior.
    
    That is a fantastic dream! I hadn't dreamed like that in quite a while.

re -1 

>>	Your dream is showing the hour that is at hand.  Read the 24th chapter
>>  	of St. Matthews , in the Bible concerning the last days

Are you suggesting that 'my' last days are at hone?  Or that it somehow 
is a prophecy affecting many more htan just myself?

just wondering?


Sherrin 

    Sherrin:
    
    I certainly wouldn't say your dream means you are going to die!
    
    You have to be careful when considering prophetic powers in dreams.  If
    you've seen books before, you'll see that there are dozens of
    interpretations of symbols in dreams, and their meanings are influenced
    often by culteral interpretations or religious beliefs.  They are not
    cast in gold.  I certainly wouldn't worry that you are about to kick
    off to the afterlife!
    
    What that reply suggests is one POSSIBLE correlation.
    
    There are books which have meanings for symbols.  In your dream, the
    clouds could be the symbols or the storm could be the symbol.
    
    Anotherwords, you often have to take what you are told, think about
    what is going on in your life, and see if it's appropriate.
    
    Once I dreamt of a bear and one interpretation I was given was that a
    bear in a dream meant that a close friend was about to betray me. 
    Never happened.
    
    I have been told that dreams of teeth or mouths mean you are feeling
    guilty about something.  Again, I thought about what was going on in my
    life and found that that interpretation didn't exactly match up.
    
    So I would not worry about gloom and doom just because the Bible's
    chapters may have some similarities.  It is on POSSIBLE way to read
    into the dream.  Considering the Bible was written so many years before
    you had this dream (not counting any possible reincarnations...), I
    wouldn't suggest there is a direct correlation.
    
    

    >If you've seen books before, you'll see that there are dozens of
    >interpretations of symbols in dreams, and their meanings are influenced
    >often by culteral interpretations or religious beliefs.  They are not
    >cast in gold.

    This also conveniently allows you several chances of being right. So you
    wait a few days and if something happens that is in the slightest way
    connected to one of the interpretations you can say "My interpretation
    was spot on!" Neat isn't it. 
    
    Jamie.

    Yes, Jamie, it is neat.  It also applies to horoscopes and Tarot
    readings at times.  The reader/interpreter is so broad that it leaves a
    lot of opportunities for them to be right!
    
    ;^)
    
    

    Re: .5
    
    Recurring dreams/dream themes are not always as mundanely caused as
    yours are.  Folks who suffered abusive childhoods, but are still
    repressing the memories, will have recurring themes until the
    repression of memory ends AND the person works through the issue.
    
    Or, dreams reoccur while some emotion is currently being repressed
    (e.g. dreams of violence while repressing anger).
    
    Beth

okay - I've been told and read that the clouds mean trouble.  And I believe 
it.  The major thing going on in my life is this 

My husband's best friend of a very long time hit on me repeatedly (ina BIG way)
I finally blabbed the story to my husband about a month ago. 
The day before _the_ dream, my husband confronted the friend and 
terminated their friendship.


So... I get the cloud part, I may even understand the clock (it was about time 
the truth got told...) but the five is what is bugging me.




ps.  Anyone get AVON?  I had an Avon bag sitting on my dresser.  Did you ever 
notice how the "A" has no line through the middle?  It looks like a BIG V!
coincidence?

    Maybe it's not a 5 but a V for Victory as another noter suggested. 
    Victory because you did the right thing.
    
    

I like that answer!   I'll take it! 

Hey anyone else have any wild dreams?  I'd love to hear them...

    Do a dir/tit="dream"
    
    there's plenty in here...
    
    

    This one isn't a weird one but I would like hlp with it, please.
    I am new to replying to the notes, but I have been reading them for
    quite a while.  I dream often but seldom remember them, just bits and
    pieces.  Any way here we go. 
    
    I'm standing next to a swimming pool with a girl (that I have feelings
    for) and a friend that both of us know.  We all decide to go swimming,
    so her and I jump in and start swimming. Thats kind of odd because even
    though I enjoy swimming I haven't been in about five years.  Were all
    having fun when the manager comes up and tells us to leave.  Well she 
    doesn't want to leave and an argument breaks out, I get involved
    because I feel that she is right.  The Next thing I know I am standing
    on a diving platform, a real high one.  I Look down and see my friends 
    down on the ground besides the pool (a different one than the first).
    Iv'e never been a diver or claimed to be, but I found my self leaping
    off the platform and pulling off a really fancy dive.  I enter the
    water and its like I can breath under water.  Agianst one of the walls
    of the pool I see bunk beds and on the bottom there is a couch.  
    I swim down to couch It's about 30 ft to the bottom, whem I reach the 
    couch I see someone sitting on it.  I go down and sit besides him.  I
    feel like I've known him for a long time even though I don't remember 
    ever meeting him before.  Then I wake up.  
    I have never had a dream involving water before and I have never had a
    dream that was this vivid before.  One note I was talking to the girl 
    just before going to bed and she was on my mind whem I feel to sleep.
    Any thoughts on this are welcome, I don't know what to make of this.
    
    
    Thanks. 
    
    
    
    Frank
    
    

    I don't know about the water but being on the diving board seems to
    imply you underestimate your potential? You really are suited for
    something?  Maybe you are worried about something that you have to do
    soon?  Maybe it means that you will be successful about something for
    which you have fear?
    
    

    Frank,

    Normally I avoid these dream interpretation requests.  Dreams are made
    up of personal symbols which can only be reliably understood in terms
    of ones own personal symbol-ideolect, which can be consciously learned
    only by a drawn out process of self-examination and comparison.

    There are guideposts, however -- common symbolic themes, derived from
    common experience, "obvious" parallels and cultural metaphors.  These
    frequently -- though very definitely not always -- mean the same thing
    to different people.  When you find one of these symbols in a dream
    you can try out their classic meanings to see how they fit, then
    modify, reject, accept or specialize that meaning as you look at your
    life, feelings and other sources of symbolic insight.

    Up until the end, this is almost a classic dream, one that someone
    might make up to illustrate how such traditional "common" symbols might
    fit together to support a single dream.  So, I'm going to ignore my
    usual rule about dream interpretations and give a "classic
    interpretation" -- but keep in mind that it may not be right for you,
    and even if it is there is almost certainly a lot of fine detail that
    this misses.

    Not to put too fine an point on it, this is a classic sex dream (men
    especially, learn in puberty by uncomfortable experience to avoid
    sexual consumation in dreams or turn the whole thing "symbolic"; women
    may also, for various reasons avoid "explict sex" in some or all of
    their dreams and replace it with symbolic images, but they may still
    experience the full erotic sensation). In other words, at the risk of
    offending someone (we're all adults here, right?) this is a sublimated
    wet dream.  If you hadn't said that you "had feelings" for the "girl"
    I would have rather strongly suspected it (see how dangerous it can be
    to tell other people your dreams ;-)).

    I've been debating how detailed to get, since it really is more
    meaningful for you to fit the stuff according to your own feelings, but
    if you *promise* to not put too much faith in what I say as applying
    to your particular case, I'll go into a bit more detail.

    We start out with you and the girl at the side of the pool.  There is
    some ambivalence it seems, since you introduce a chaparone.  But you go
    through with it anyway -- though the chaparone apparently ends up
    coming along to keep things from getting out of hand.  Suddenly, a
    classic authority figure -- representing guilt or fear of public
    censure -- comes along.  Your immediate reaction is to bow to that
    authority, but you discover that "she wants it too" (in your dream I'm
    not claiming prophecy -- this is about what's inside not outside)
    enough so to be willing to fight for it.  With that you decide to
    resist authority and "go for it".

    With that you suddenly switch to a classic penetration/consumation
    symbolism (though apparently there is still enough ambivalence that the
    chaparone is still connected to the pool).  What do you find?  A
    classic trysting place -- beds and a couch.

    The final figure -- since it doesn't seem to be reinforced by anything
    else in the dream is less clearly interpretable.  But, what the heck,
    in for a penny in for a pound.

    Most commonly, (though there are other possibilities even classically),
    when you meet someone in a dream that seems familiar but that you don't
    recognize -- it is yourself.  This would seem to indicate that there is
    some aspect of your feelings or your desires -- perhaps the source of
    the ambivalence -- which you have not "faced up to" or recognized.
    You might want to think hard about your feelings about this woman.

    My!  That was fun.  Anyone have a cigarette?

                                          Topher

	<-- not true. You're matchless.  nyuck nyuck.

    
    Thank's Topher, 
    
    I don't know what to think of this now but your interpatation 
    is very intresting, I never thought of it that way, and thats why 
    I asked.  thanks agian 
    
    even more confused...
    
    
    
    Frank
    

                       <<< Note 1890.0 by SALEM::BULL >>>
                         -< help with a dream please! >-
    
}}It is a beautiful backdrop of fast moving storm clouds with a large filigree
}}clock hand floating in front of it.  This clock hand moves up to the "12"
}}position and stays there.  And then appears a golden, glowing, roman numeral 5
}}(or a giant V) and it just stays like that.  That's it.
    
    Just an observation:
    
    	In the old T.V. show "The Twilight Zone" one of the openings for
    the show has "Fast moving storm clouds",  "a clock flying with the
    hands moving towards midnight (or noon?)"  and to add to the
    correlation I think some of the episodes were a MARK VII production
    where the hands with the chisel and hammer stamps a giant VII in the
    stone. (This could be your "V")
    
    Question:  You didn't stay up recently watching one of those 10 hour
    Twilight Zone marithons did you?    8^)
    
    
    	-=Dave=-
    
    
    

    
    
    	I was wondering if anyone could tell me the meaning of 
    tornados and or storm clouds in dreams?  
    	The Dream that I had the other night, I found my self out
    side looking up at the sky.  I could see funnel clouds trying to
    develop right directly above me, with lots of thunder and lightning
    going on all around.  I should have been scared although I wasn't.
    Thats all I remember about the dream, I have never had a dream like 
    this before, and would like any help with interpertations that I can 
    get.  Thanks for the help!!
    
    
    						Frank
    

    Strange to say last night I dreamed that there was a thunderstorm. In
    fact it was so realistic that I woke up and found that there was a the
    mother and father of thunderstorms all round our area. It lasted from 2
    am until about 5:30. It probably explains why everyone looks a bit
    haggard this morning.

    Jamie.