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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

819.0. "Planetary Insomnia!" by SEINE::RAINVILLE (A new moon, a warm planet.) Tue Aug 09 1988 08:33

	I couldn't sleep.  Lying still, clearing my mind, nothing worked.
	I'd had a quiet day at work, back from a week of vacation, followed
	by a few hours chasing children, I should be able to sleep.
	Finally I gave up, rising at 3:AM, wandering outside to relax by
	the lake, hoping it would lull me to rest.  As I opened the door,
	something dark bolted from the deck, only to be challenged by our
	own cat in the neighbor's yard, yowling under a starry sky.

	Something above in the east, caught my eye, sonething bright, but
	not twinkling, it could only be Jupiter.  Further to the north, I
	could see the cresent of a new moon through the trees.  Ah, I thought,
	the impending new moon...I would walk out onto our bridge, to see the
	display further seperated from the skyline of trees.

	More light, bright Venus, accompanied the moon a bit above, giving
	me two points, in addition to the one where I stood, to trace the
	vast plane of the ecliptic across the sky to...a soft yellow glow
	also untwinkling...has to be Saturn, I thought.  Suddenly purring
	from behind, and the thud of footpads only audible when the world
	was asleep, our cat ran out to be with me, hoping to be fed no doubt,
	by this insomniac idoit wandering around when only she should be
	patrolling.  Then from the yard I had just left, the familiar moan
	of our Golden Retriever, asking to be invited along.  What was he
	doing awake?, he hardly stirs these hot August dog days.

	The three of us stood there awhile, watching the sparkling sky above
	and reflected in the still lake surface.  So, I thought (I hesitate
	to talk aloud least the animals think I've lost my grip), here it is
	again, celestial insomnia.  So many times before I've emerged like
	this to see the sky so familiar from a mountain childhood, full of
	a full moon, or the wandering illuminated bodies of our planetary
	neighbors.  Does this happen to anyone else???...MWR	
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819.1Sleep too well...FNYADG::PELLATTJust what is it with Turkey ?Tue Aug 09 1988 09:086
    >> Does this happen to anyone else???...MWR	
    
    Wish it happened to me...    (8^)
       
    
    Great, thanks, Dave.                
819.2yeeaa! thats the ticket!USACSB::OPERATOR_CBTue Aug 09 1988 09:4522
    
    Well, working nights plays HAVOC with the biological clock and when
    I have a night off I naturally find myself waking up (becoming alert)
    around 23:00. 
    	I find myself sometimes sitting on our deck making sure the
    sun comes up OK on Sunday morning. (It has so far! I must have good
    supervisory potential?) Yet most of the time I watch the late movie.
    due to the number of skunks in the neiborhood I am hesitant about
    walks. My wife and I have had a number of close calls with these
    friendly fellers but I dont wish to press my luck. The quiet time
    is very nice though and listening to the birds wake up around 4ish
    the little skunks ect waddle across the grass in the early light.
    (there is also a neighborhood Screech Owl that always seems to catch
    me off-guard and startles me a tad.) all these little things along
    with a clear sky, soft wind, lounge chair, bottle of cheep wine,
    3 cats, (Howard, Crystal, and Muffin) and we have the makings of
    a relaxing day (or for you folks, "night") on the deck.
    
    Thanks for entering that!
    
    Craig-whose-tending-to-the-metal-gods-needs
    wish to press my luck! 
819.33 a.m. in Colorado, yesNEXUS::ENTLERthe WizardTue Aug 09 1988 15:3314
    RE: Insomnia.  
    
    	I too, woke up around 3 A.M, and continued to toss and turn.
     unfortunately I didn't have any lake to walk out by.  Then again
    insomnia is nothing new to me. Particularly if I have a lot on my
    mind.  That often occurs mafter 3 hour meetings like the one I had
    last night.  
    	As a result, I was a half hour late this morning.  Why is it
    that it's always easier to go to sleep after the alarm goes off?
    
    Dan
    
    P.S.   does anyone have any quick and simple cures for insomnia?
    
819.4yesMARKER::KALLISAnger's no replacement for reasonTue Aug 09 1988 15:379
    re .3 (Dan):
    
    >P.S.   does anyone have any quick and simple cures for insomnia?
    
    I've had pretty good luck with Vitamin B1 (thiamin) -- _not_ as
    part of a B-complex pill, but by itself.  Tastes, well, not so good,
    but it's a sort of natural sleeping pill.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
819.5Watch your stepSCAVAX::GRACEA new horse, a bigger carriage...Tue Aug 09 1988 17:266
    Re .3
    
    FWIW, Mark Twain took to sleeping on the bathroom floor as a 
    cure for his insomnia.  Just imagine his wife Livy's surprise 
    upon blearily venturing, in the dark, to heed the call of 
    nature...
819.6Vitamin B1 = Sleep.NEXUS::ENTLERthe WizardTue Aug 09 1988 18:136
    RE: .4  Vitamin B1, Thanks Steve i'll give it a try.
    
    RE: .5  Get your head out of the toilet.  
    	Sorry, I just couldn't resist.  It's no sicker than your reply.
    
    Dan
819.7Another suggestionSCOPE::PAINTERFeelin' happy.....Tue Aug 09 1988 20:2212
                               
    You can also try tryptophan (l-tryptophane or whatever).  It's the
    amino acid naturally found in turkey meat (which has been cited as 
    the reason for the post-Thanksgiving meal naps).  It's expensive
    though - around US $7.00 for 30 500mg. tablets.
    
    Recommended dosage is from 500mg. to 2000mg. (2 grams).  What I do 
    is take one, try to sleep, and if still awake in 15 min., take 
    another....and repeat if/as necessary.   This was recommended to me
    by my family doctor. 
    
    Cindy            
819.8Tryptophan and milk SCOPE::PAINTERFeelin' happy.....Tue Aug 09 1988 20:277
    
    Oops - forgot - it is recommended that you not take tryptophan 
    with milk as it tends to counteract the effect of the tryptophan 
    (from what I can recall, though it's been a while since I read 
    this so cannot remember exactly why this is the case).
    
    Cindy
819.9NEXUS::GORTMAKERGort ManufacturingWed Aug 10 1988 07:295
    re.3
    Geez Dan next time you can't sleep you can always come in and keep
    me company and maybe take a couple of calls 8^) 8^)
    
    -j
819.10suffering at home preferred!NEXUS::ENTLERthe WizardWed Aug 10 1988 14:266
    RE: .9  
    
    	Nice try Jerry, but I rather suffer at home!
    
    Dan
819.11<another suggestion(s)>MTBLUE::SULLIVAN_SUZWed Aug 10 1988 15:0610
    Dan,
    
    I find that warm milk "really" does work for insomnia.  Also, reading
     a few pages of a book helps.  
    
    Suz
    
    P.S.  I am not new to reading dejavu but am new to replying/writing
          so please disregard note 821.
    
819.12no thanksNEXUS::ENTLERthe WizardThu Aug 11 1988 19:056
    RE: .1  SORRY SUZ but warm milk, YUK!
    
    I do often drink a glass of cold milk or a bite of cheese accomplishes
    the same thing, but it takes time for the actual effect to set in.
    
    Dan
819.13NEXUS::MORGANExperiencing the Age of Xochipilli.Fri Aug 12 1988 05:362
    And I understand that from 1 to 4 grams of L-Tryptophan will help
    you get to sleep too.
819.14More on TSCOPE::PAINTERFeelin' happy.....Fri Aug 12 1988 14:3811
    
    Somewhere around the 6 gram mark is the cutoff for the effectiveness
    of Tryptophan...or at least this was what was mentioned in 2 studies
    that I've read.  This is also where some people have noticed some
    side effects (nausea being one of them).
         
    Just as a caution - if you notice *any* side effects whatsoever,
    then stop taking whatever it is you are taking with regard to
    vitamins, minerals and amino acids.                          
    
    Cindy
819.15play it again, SamWHEEL::BISHOPFri Aug 12 1988 16:1411
    I have read (Rudolph Steiner, I think) that one good way to end
    your day is to replay it backwards in your mind.  Try to get to
    the smallest detail.  
    
    Many times we end up thinking about the 2 things we did not get
    to finish on our "list" - but have totally forgotten the 47 things
    that we did accomplish.  This is a healthy review to sense all that
    you truly do complete every day.  This works for me, in fact, I
    have never gotten beyond lunch in my re-take.  Hope this helps.
    
    Dawna
819.16GLORY::WETHERINGTONFri Aug 12 1988 21:353
    Check out 545.22 in this conference.   
    
    Doug
819.17It's in the ritualBIGALO::SULLIVAN_SUZMon Aug 15 1988 19:334
    
    It's the ritual of preparation that probably provides the best aid
    for sleep.  The actual getting up and warming the pan on the stove.
    
819.18Another cure...USAT05::KASPERLife is like a beanstalk, isn't it...Tue Aug 16 1988 02:584
	Old Ronald Regan movies or George Bush speeches usually work...

	Terry    

819.19NEXUS::GORTMAKERGort ManufacturingSat Aug 20 1988 17:232
    re-.1 Or the 'duke' whenever he opens his mouth.