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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

177.0. "Astral Travelling and OBE's revisited." by 11355::PENNFIELD () Fri Jul 25 1986 06:53

    Hi.  I've been attempting Astral Travel for some time now, for the
    main reason that may who've experienced it claim to enjoy a sense
    of "complete freedom" - from bodily and daily stress.  I'm also
    interested because of many accounts of OBE's which I've read - at
    least 15 sources so far have given different methods, ideas, etc.,
    but I've tried many to no avail.  I'm now turning to you (those
    who've either heard of OBE's or experienced them - or even those
    who've been experiencing them for quite some time, even at will).
    If anyone knows anything more on this topic - or some good sources,
    I'd be greatly thankful. I've already read the other topics in this
    conference about this topic, but they don't detail any procedure
    or method in which people induce an OBE.  Anyway, any input would
    be greatly appreciated - either post the message, or mail me - accounts
    and observations during OBE's would also be appreciated!
    
    Finally coming out of the Astral closet,
    
    Rich.
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177.1Real DisiplineNEXUS::MORGANWalk in Balance...Sun Jul 27 1986 02:209
    Well, I dunno.  I've had a bunch, somewhere around 10 that I have
    recorded.  The most helpful thing is a vital interest that renews
    itself after each experience.  The other thing is disipline.  I
    don't think I have the desire to develop a real mental disipline
    for this so I have lost interest for now.
    
    My best guess is to develop a solid mental disipline and see what
    happens.  Also pick the technique that you are most comfortable
    with.
177.211355::PENNFIELDSun Jul 27 1986 23:537
    Thanks, but could you further define "mental discipline"?  And also,
    what were the conditions during the time in which you exited the
    body?  Were you asleep, meditating, conscious, or something else?
    
    Thanks for the help!
    
    Rich.
177.3Awareness Techniques StyleSTOWMA::ARDINIFrom the third plane.Tue Aug 12 1986 11:1624
    	In the "AWARENESS TECHNIQUES" they say you should start by having
    someone run you thru it.  They mean you should have another person
    help you go thru it.  Preferably a person who knows how.  The books
    describe how to run for the first time (run=obe).  The person running
    you has you ly down and relax, trying to clear your mind out
    completely. Then he has you imagine that you are extending your
    feet out of your physical body just a few inches then back to normal
    and then starts with the fingers, then head.  He has you do this
    repeatedly for a while until you feel comfortable with it.  
    	
    	Now comes the real OBE.  He now has you extend out of your body
    straight up, Floating and has you describe what you see thru you
    astral eye.  Once you feel comfortable he has you leave the building
    straight up about 100 feet and has you describe what you see, the
    geography, ect.  After all this you are ready to travel not only
    to other locations but also to other times, and lives you have had.
    
    	I have never achieved anything that I feel was more than my
    own vivid imagination in this.  And that is where I have trouble
    because my imagination is so great that I feel it's never real but
    instead only what i choose it to be.
    
    						Good Luck,
    						  Jorge'