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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

636.0. "Two Hundred Seventeen" by SEINE::RAINVILLE (The best view is close to the edge!) Tue Jan 26 1988 02:19

	Alright folks, I've carried this around mentally long enough,
	it's time to seek refuge in numbers...HA!  So, tell me from
	the fringes of the occult, or something like it, why?

	Why do I see the number 217 more often than it should randomly
	appear??   And why has it followed me home from the west coast,
	lo, 20 years ago?? Why?  Bob Turner first pointed it out to me
	while we were both army medics in the Bay Area in 1967.  I told
	him from my smug naive-scientific point of view it was absurd &
	picked out other 3-digit numbers to watch for in license plates,
	addresses, serial #s, project #s, etc.  What happend at the Grand
	Canyon (548.22) finally convinced me something unusual was up,
	the Canyon is 217 miles long, and one night there is burned
	into the acrophobic part of me forever...

	I've run random-number gererators for hours and it does not
	appear more that once/1000.  It appears in front of me on
	highways, in parking lots, on TV, virtually everywhere.

	I thought that, being almost symmetrical, it simply is easily
	picked out of the visual field, but 318 or 619 or 512 don't
	appear as often........Annyone else see it???....Now???...MWR
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636.1I bet everybody is haunted with different numbersINK::KALLISJust everybody please calm down...Tue Jan 26 1988 11:375
    I can't say.  I've been haunted by 59 (my class year in college).
    Also, my badge number and an ID number I had in the service are
    very similar (4874/4784).  Both reduce to 5.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
636.2They're your Friends!FLOWER::JASNIEWSKITue Jan 26 1988 11:488
    
    	Why "haunted"? Perhaps these numbers are your friends! (I've
    heard of an Indian Woman who is a mathematician and knows lots of
    numbers; she describes them as her "friends". She can tell them
    "apart" and see each one's distinction by how they behave and "where"
    they show up)
    
    	Joe Jas
636.3What's your number?SEINE::RAINVILLEThe best view is close to the edge!Tue Jan 26 1988 13:4516
    Excuse please, 'haunted' is a positive attribute as far as I'm
    concerned.  Perhaps 'mystified' would have been a better choice.
    I now accept '217' as a constant reminder that science cannot
    provide enough answers to keep me smugly self-assured.  Mostly
    it appears after I have done something positive for someone
    else...Of course, pointing it out to others leads to derisive
    comments for a few months, until they see it too, so I only
    mention it to people who will be spending a lot of time with
    me.  I is really fun to watch their expressions when it
    appears while working a problem they brought to me in
    desperation!!!.....So, help me out, pick another 3-digit #
    and compare its' frequency of appearance over a long time.
    Maybe it's just Turner & I!!  BTW Steve, 4874 eh?  Well my
    DEC extension is 4574!!...Do we all have our own numbers?
    Are they harbingers?????....Mystified in Westminster...MWR
    
636.4Numbers, numbers and more numbersCLUE::PAINTERIt's all relative....maybe.Tue Jan 26 1988 15:2427
    
    Re.3
      
    > ...constant reminder that science cannot provide enough answers...
         
    Perhaps the numbers in and of themselves *are* part of a larger
    'scientific' puzzle and it is up to you to to figure it out.   Once
    you figure out the common thread in one discipline, you will then
    be able to find the common thread which connects many disciplines
    together.
    
    Back when I was a waitress (long ago), we had an NCR machine where
    we had to punch in our unique waitress number and then punch in
    the correct items.  The number '13' was assigned to one waitress,
    and she requested that her number be assigned to something else
    (believe it was '9').  After about 2 years, the manager discovered
    that the greatest turnover in waitresses corresponded directly with
    their number assignment, which was '9'.  Then she remembered that
    '13' was really the substitute and we all thought that was very
    interesting.  The turnover was *very* high - something like 10
    waitresses were assigned '9' as opposed to 2 or 3 that were assigned
    '13'.  (My number was 2, and was for 2 years, and there were 2 of
    us who shared that number because we worked different shifts.) 
    The reason for assigning numbers was to track sales amounts by waitress.
    
    Cindy
                                                              
636.5Prime Numbers, not Computers.FSTVAX::ROYERFIDUS AMICUS..Tue Jan 26 1988 17:4329
    Indeed numbers are strange friends... 5 for example it entered
    my head at Yonkers Race Track, I bet #5 to win, it did.  I played
    #5 to show in second race, it did.  Played #5 to place in third
    it was another winner.  I played #5 to win in fourth race and 
    won..I was chicken to push further.  No other #5 winners that 
    night.
    
    In California I had a string of DEC and  Personal cars with
    Even numbers for plates, 8 in a row.  
    
    Having been in field service we drive a lot and the 1000 mile
    weeks are common.  I usually saw the numbers 727, 737, 747, etc
    show up on the odometer just prior to a trip, but before I
    knew that I would be flying.
    
    And I am not afraid of 13 either.  I like 13.
    
    Numbers are convenienent, friend or foe, who can say.
     
    
    both my first and last name have 5 letters, my nickname and
    second and last name combine for 15 letters or 5 x 3.
    Prime numbers.  
    
    Anyone else have prime numbers that are involved in your being.
    
    regards,
    
    Dave
636.6Dividing cosmic numbers by human factors.PUZZLE::GUEST_TMPHOME, in spite of my ego!Tue Jan 26 1988 23:3020
    I just recently read something about some of the world's "smartest"
    number pushers (some are idiot savants, some are just "plain" 
    geniuses.)  I don't know where I read it, so maybe someone else
    read it, too.  Anyway, some woman (Oriental, is all I can 
    conjur up at the moment) was relating her association with numbers
    and (it was either her or one of the others in the discussed group)
    they said that each number had its own "feel."  I.E., some numbers
    gave up positive "vibrations" or whatever while others did not.
    Some were friendly while some were not.  Numbers seemed to "jump"
    at them in unexplainable fashion. 
      
    I hope I am not repeating something I read here in Dejavu (that
    would be embarassing) but anyway, it certainly relates to the
    discussion.
     
    Interesting, I think.
     
    Frederick
    (whose new node will be WR08A in a couple of hours.)
    
636.7Let's have one more 217...STAR::WORCESTERLife need not be a zero-sum game.Sat Jan 30 1988 23:074
    RE: .0
    
   	We'd all appreciate it greatly if 217 made another grand
    appearance as the price of DEC stock in the near future ;-).
636.8ySEINE::RAINVILLEThe rest of a view from a ledge.Tue Feb 23 1988 02:1511
    My work life for the last and next few months has been absorbed
    in preparation for production of VMS V5.0 media.  I mean absorbed
    in the bet-your-reputation sense of saying I can build an engine
    to replicate 400% of our normal demand.  I am building some 20 tons
    of new iron in SDC media production to prove we can do it.
    
    Today we gathered to review the latest forecast for V5.0.  After
    extensive analysis, our production control expert, Dot H., said
    she expected 217 products to be involved in the re-issue of software.
    						MWR
    
636.9CBSSEINE::RAINVILLEAnonymous Anomalies Analyzed!Thu Mar 03 1988 21:445
    At this moment I'm watching CBS news.  Before the commercial, just
    as I reached DEJAVU, a preview frame about a classified ad flashed
    on, It looked like the area code was 217.  The article will be on
    in a minute....MWR
    
636.10"217"NECVAX::CANINOMon Mar 28 1988 12:3815
    It is said that all of us have our own "frequency" of energy and
    we are forever drawn to those things that have our "frequency".
    217 is obviously yours.  Also take note you may also have related
    numbers such as 37 (2+1 7), 28 (2 1+7), ect.  It would be interesting
    to hear if you ever had such an observance.
    
    My number is 9.  The number 9 follows me.  When I see a license
    plate 54333 - what is really see is 99.  I don't really know what
    to "do" with it other than just take notice.
    
    My $.09 worth.
    
    MAC
    
636.11" 444 4 what it's worth 2 U "CURIE::COSTLEYFri Apr 01 1988 19:0811
    The preceding reply (.10) seems to be explainable as a reduction
    in the combinative manner of numerologists: sum & reduce to a single
    digit under 10.
    
    Personally now: I have been waking up invariably @ 04:44 for
    some years now to my mystification. I know only one instance of
    444 having any public meaning: the American hostages were released
    from Iran after 444 days...and I'd been waking @ 04:44 all that
    time...& since. For about 10 years now.
    
    
636.12BrrrriiiiiinnnnnnngggggggMCIS2::SHURSKYTue Apr 05 1988 14:476
    Even when the time changes like it did last weekend?  This indicates
    you have strange relationship with your alarm clock (or maybe you
    should turn the alarm off!).  You might consider getting a new one.
    
    {;-)  :-)
    Stan