Conference hydra::dejavu

    I just found Noologic at
    
    	http://www.tulsaweb.com/noologic/
    
    Check it out!
    
      *Stella*

    What "wake up" call are you talking about?
    
    	Terry

    "Wake up!  We've moved from the 3rd dimension into the 4th dimension
    and we're now moving into the 5th dimension!  Planet Earth is
    changing, and her inhabitants have the opportunity to change (their
    thoughtforms, vibratory patterns, etc.) if they choose to.  We are
    moving out of darkness and into the Light!"
    
    That's the wakeup call I'm talking about!  It can be found in many
    places!
    
      *Stella*

    You believe that?
    

    
    For some, it's not a question of 'belief'.  (;^)
    
    As Joseph Campbell once said, "I don't have to have faith...I have
    experience!"
    
    Cindy

    That means you have experienced those dimensions?

    
    I reply neither to leading questions nor ones that contain profanity.
    
    Cindy

    >I reply neither to leading questions nor ones that contain profanity.
    
    I do.
    
    Whether or not a person believes that we have transcended dimensions
    and that it's an ongoing process, is not the point here. The base noter
    found something interesting and decided to post information and a
    pointer to where more information could be found. That's all, very
    simple. You (the person who replied; "You believe that?") are certainly
    welcome to question the validity of the information, wither here or on
    the Net, but please don't question another's possible belief system.
    Now if you wish to start a discussion about the information given and
    whether or not it's feasible and worth believing in, that's fine.
    Perhaps you did and just need to phrase your question not quite so
    bluntly. That's cool. 
    
    re .6 Joseph Campbell is the author of many books on Mythology and
    belief systems and how they can be used to understand the human psyche
    better. I don't have a bibliograhy of his titles handy. He and his
    writings have also been the subject of at least one PBS special that
    Bill Moyers has hosted. He is extremely respected in his field and his
    writings will certainly be used to understand human behavior for
    decades (if not centuries) to come. Unfortunately, he has also passed
    on and we will get no new writings. 
    
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ

    Oh yeah, whether or not Cindy or anyone else in here has experienced
    those dimensions is a subject for discussion if she or anyone else
    chooses to discuss it. I was hoping to read such a discussion, but the
    way questions and titles are phrased will probably preclude that.
    Actually the question about experience isn't phrased badly, but the
    profanity in the title stopped the discussion.
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ

    
    Wake up calls are different for each person, since each of us live
    different lives and have different experiences. What is apparent 
    and rational to me may not make any sense to someone else and vice
    versa. I think anything to do with philosophical and spiritual
    issues should be left to individual interpretation. Also, I am 
    convinced that there are still plenty of things we do not understand
    and plenty of things we have not experienced. So, hey, what's the
    harm to be adventurous? Life is too short.
    
    
    Eva    

    What 'profanity' you guys are talking about? Is this the dejavu notes
    or is some kind of weird religious cult conference? If so excuse me
    if my replies are offending your gods, goddesses, idols, etc.etc.

    Some people consider the term 'hell' to be profanity. Especially in the
    context of your title. I personally don't, but others may be offended
    by it. I use it often enough as did my father. It's funny because the
    only Hel I might believe in is the goddess of that name. She was a
    Norse deity and had charge over the souls of the dead that didn't make
    it into Valhalla. I understand that this was most of them, as only
    warriors falling bravely in battle got to Valhalla. Norse equivalent of
    Heaven. Although for the life of me, I can't understand how eternal
    joyous battling could be considered Heaven. :-)
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ(Who counts the Midgard Serpent as an ancestor. Really, it's a family
    legend as to the origin of the name Hardy. My paternal Grandmother was
    a Hardy. :-)  )

    Thank you for the explanation :-)
    
    I don't see any 'profanity' in the world hell, if I am not wrong the
    hell was invented by religious leaders to have power on ignorant people 
    and I can't believe we are reaching the year 2000 and some people still
    believe that crap.
    
    "La Divina Commedia" by Dande Alighieri was fun and interesting to read
    though ;-)
    
    
     

    
    re .13
    
    Some people are not as smart as you are in figuring out how to
    live their lives. If you look at the population, at least half 
    of them don't have a clue who they are, why they are here, what
    they are doing, etc. So, if you were in charge of this population
    who has no clue, who doesn't have intellectual capacity to do
    research, who doesn't have the *TIME* to do research, when would
    you do to keep the social peace??? Scaring them to behave with 
    *hell* is effective, isn't it? It is pretty sad in a way, I am
    not convinced that religion has outlived its purpose. Just look
    at the number of users of anti-depression drugs, users of mood 
    altering substance - people can't deal with reality as is!!!!! 
    
    
    Eva 

    Cindy, PJ, Eva:  Thanks, Guys!
    
    I have been unable to get into this conference all week.  Now I know
    why!  You guys are great.  Thanks.

    RE: .3
    
    Couple of weeks ago I asked basically "What are you talking about?"
    You started talking about different dimensions and I went out on 
    the net and looked around but some areas I could not get into 
    (sorry, I meant to say "no access" into the Net at that time).
    I have also looked at various "old topics".  But I'm interested
    in what you are saying, could you write a little more on the 
    subject of the different dimensions that we are all passing through?
    I'm new to all this! Either that or point me to a note.
    I'd appreicate it.
    
    	Terry

    
    Re.16
    
    To do a directory search on topics here, enter the following command:
    
    	dir/title=dimension
    
    This should give you 3 references to check into.  
    
    Cindy

    Thank you

          Hi everyone, it's me again!  I did a dir/title=dimension
          and I read alot about voids, physics, flatland, and such
          but that does not explain what Stella was first talking 
          about.  I don't understand moving from one dimension
          the third, thru the fourth and into the fifth! 
          Are we talking about time and space or something else?
          Please, I would like some explaination.
          I am interrested...

                    Terry

    Hi
    
    It has to do with personal/societal growth, and growing through stages,
    working up the chakra chain. There are other metaphors for this, the
    chakras work best for me.
    
    Are you familiar with chakras? That's one way of discussing energy. The
    3rd has to do with Will, resulting in power and emotions. The 4th, or
    Heart chakra is Love energy. The 5th there's communication/self
    expression. There site here is throat, and a new energy center is also
    opening in the area of the thymus, which is the new connection to All. 
    
    So moving from the 4th into the 5th can be thought of as taking the
    love energy and working with it to heal and connect, and grow further
    into Multi-sensory awareness.
    
    Another way of referring to this growth is the "age of Aquarius" concept. 
    We are moving into a new time of peace and harmony.
    
    Does this help?
    
    Susan

          Yes, I understand chakras. Thank you for your explanation.
          I thought maybe Stella was referring to something that I
          read a long time ago in this file about Walk-Ins.  I have
          looked up the old notes about Talligai and I still can't
          find the note I had read about going from one dimension
          to another and a whole lot of other stuff that I really
          couldn't tell you about because it was so long ago.
          
		Terry 

    Hi, Terry.  I just did the following and found some of Talligai's
    references:
    
    	Search /Note=1034.*"dimension"
    
    When I began this string about wake-up calls, I gave 2 website
    references, also, which prompted me to enter the note.
    
      *Stella*                                     

    	Thanks much.  I will try the Websites again.
    	Now I can get caught up on my reading.
    
    		Terry

    I found yet another wakeup call, the weekly TV show called, "Touched By
    An Angel."  Wow.  It's great that all this information is so easily
    accessible nowadays, in this instance on national TV on Sunday night at
    8:00. They call that prime time, I believe.  :-)
    
    I've watched it only partially the past 2 weeks; the angels on the show
    say they are sent by God to assist in people's lives providing people
    ASK for help.  That's they key, ASKING.  The angels also point out that
    because of human free will, any situation could turn out a million
    different ways, depending on the choices made.
    
    I've been thinking about this show a lot and have come to the
    conclusion that angels are now all around us in human form because I
    have several human friends in my life that I now realize are real live
    angels.  They assist me and I assist them.  Sometimes I don't even know
    where the information comes from that I give them; I'm amazed at what I
    say.
    
    :-)  Peace, Love, & Light.  *Stella*