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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1842.0. "The Veil of Sight" by UNYEM::JEFFERSONL (Have you been tried in the fire?) Tue May 25 1993 15:46

    Hi,
    
    In your opinion - What does it mean / symbolize when an individual is
    born with a thin layer of skin over their face? I was taught that it
    was called a veil.
    
    Is it suppose to represent? Superstition?
    
    
    Lorenzo
    
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1842.1REGENT::BROOMHEADDon't panic -- yet.Tue May 25 1993 16:257
    Lorenzo,
    
    It is [also?] called a caul.  It presumably indicates that the child
    has been gifted with Second Sight.  (I'm not clear if that is
    precognition or clairvoyance.)
    
    						Ann B.
1842.2I am oneCAADC::BABCOCKTue May 25 1993 17:597
    I was born with the caul.  The old ones told my mother it meant that
    I would be gifted with the wild talents, but not neccisarily happy in
    more mundane matters.  They considered it a good sign.  That the gifts
    outweighted the costs.
    
    Judy
    
1842.3What have you experienced?UNYEM::JEFFERSONLHave you been tried in the fire?Tue May 25 1993 18:189
    Re: .2
    
    Have you noticed anything "un-natural" in your life yet? (such as
    second sites?).
    
    
    
    Lorenzo
    
1842.4WHAT, me?? unusual???CAADC::BABCOCKTue May 25 1993 19:1115
    You have got to be kidding!!!   My whole life is "un-natural", except
    I don't see it that way..  To me, this is normal.  All the usual stuff,
    like knowing who is calling when the phone rings, what is in a box
    before you open it, when somwone dear is in trouble.  When I want my
    kids to phone home, I just tell them to (I think at them).  They call
    that night, ofter at the same time, tho they live 2000 miles apart.
    I have 'call interupt' just to handle them calling at the same time.
    
    Everyone in my family is this way, but they did not all have the caul.
    Only my uncle, as far as I know.  Even in a family of telepaths, I am
    different.  I see things they don't.  I search for things they don't
    know they are missing.
    
    Judy (still weighing the gifts against the costs)
    
1842.5HOO78C::ANDERSONA high speed, heat seeking cat!Wed May 26 1993 06:394
    Strange to say I was born with one and it bestowed no paranormal powers
    on me. 

    Jamie.
1842.6JURAN::GARDNERjustme....jacquiWed May 26 1993 14:4710
>    Strange to say I was born with one and it bestowed no paranormal powers
>    on me. 


    OH?????  I would beg to differ with that pronouncement!

    ;*)


1842.7ectoplasm?CSIDE::WAINELindaThu May 27 1993 19:365
I also thought that the "veil" that is mentioned not only here but in the
bible refers to ectoplasm that has left the body of a mediumistic person 
and covers the body...

me
1842.8Sailor stranded atop a mountain...CSC32::D_ROYERChi beve birra campa cent'anni.Mon Jun 14 1993 18:3223
    The veiled child is blessed.
    
    My youngest daughter Kirsten is such a child, she was veiled from head
    to chest.. IE a full veil.  
    
    The doctors removed it, and threw it away... drat.  According to
    seagoing myths, a vessel that carries a veil can not be sunk or
    destroyed.  An ancient story goes that Erik the Red had a veil, and 
    then he died his ship was to be burned in the Fjords, as befits a 
    Viking.  However the fire arrows, did not catch the ship afire the 
    first time, a second attempt, it started to rain, and the arrows went
    out.  A third try was simularily aborted, when his wife (widow) asked
    to be rowed out to the vessel, and there she went to the hidden
    compartment and removed the veil.  The last attempt the boat burned to 
    the waterline and sank beneith the waters.
    
    I would love to have a preserved veil.
    
    
    Dave
    Seafarer at heart.
    
    
1842.9just wondering...BINKLY::DEMARSERipple in still water...Tue Jul 06 1993 15:503
    How would you preserve it and what would you do with it?
    
    :), d
1842.10Just guessing...CSC32::D_ROYERChi beve birra campa cent'anni.Wed Jul 07 1993 20:2110
    Since it is just skin, I would guess that any 'tanning agent' would 
    preserve it like leather.  
    
    It has been suggested as a medicinal ingredient... (I know not what)
    and it appeared to keep ships afloat by some mysterious means.
    
    Could be old married female persons stories.  Or even urban (pre) 
    legends.
    
    Dave
1842.11The Veil?POWDML::GERRITSWed Jul 14 1993 17:246
    Could someone describe in more detail what the veil is and looks like?  
    
    Thanks!
    
    Lynn
    
1842.12HOO78C::ANDERSONGreen Acres is the place for me!Mon Jul 19 1993 07:398
    Normally it encapsulates the entire baby and ruptures at birth. In some
    cases a second membrane is formed and can cover part of the child, the
    head and hands are to likely sites. In some cases the primary membrane
    does not rupture and the baby comes out completely encapsulated in it. 

    It is of a similar nature to another membrane which lines the abdomen. 

    Jamie.
1842.13Thanks!POWDML::GERRITSMon Jul 19 1993 16:304
    Thank you for the explanation Jamie.
    
    Lynn