Conference hydra::dejavu

I'm familiar with Dr. Moody.  He's written a couple of books about 
near-death experiences, and he has a lab in Alabama where he's been able to
create a device that enables a person to go out of body supposedly very
easily.  This could be the Kline chair...  The device also, I believe,
helps you contact loved ones who have passed...

Based on the books, and a couple of interviews I saw with him, he's seems
legit and a nice guy.  In the interviews there have been people who have
tried out his different techniques, and they all felt they had genuine
experiences.  One person was Joan Rivers and she said she went in as 
a skeptic and was convinced that she had some genuine experiences of
both astral projection and communicating with loved ones who have passed.

Do you know if they are "touring" and maybe coming to New England?  This
is something I personally would check out...

Linda

    Jamie, we're wasted here. Think of the money we could make over there
    in the States! When can you have your bags packed?
    
    Laurie.

    Maybe a Kline chair is like a Klein bottle.  You can't get out of it!
    
    :-) :-) :-) 

>    Maybe a Kline chair is like a Klein bottle.  You can't get out of it!
    
    	Or perhaps it's a rekliner (sic) that you can only use once.
    
    							todd

I think a Klein chair is a sort of seat hanging 
from a rope. You sit in the chair and are blindfolded.
Someone pushes you in an unpredictable way.

It's meant to help transition to altered states
because of the disorientation. (I'm pretty
sure it would make me sick).

John D. (actually, I'm a simulation of a 
very beautiful penguin running on a PC, but
so what!)

    Well Laurie I doubt if my medical insurance company would like it if I
    moved to America, so I must pass. Mind you taking mugs at $50 a head
    might mean that I could afford to pay my own drug bills.

    I would also advise anyone wishing to experience a "near death - out of
    body experience" to think very, very carefully before trying it as they
    may well get a lot more than they bargained for.

    Jamie.

    I don't think I'd like to try the Kline chair either, John.

    NO I THINK YOU SHOULD STAY RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE.....................
    

    Tell me, does Calvin Kline know his chair is missing??? (sic)
    
    Joe

    re:  basenote,.1
    
    I saw Moody and Danion Brinkly on a local late night talk show here in
    Atlanta several times last year.
    
    As I recall, Moody wrote "Life after Death".  That seems to be the book
    that he is most known for.  I've never read it, but I think that they
    said it was collected data from people that claimed to have been dead
    and brought back to life (I guess by paramedics).  He was trying a
    scientific approach to collect data around what they recall from the
    experience.
    
    Danion Brinkly works with him in his center in Alabama.  I think it is
    set up to be a phychic research center or something along those lines. 
    Brinkly had one of these experiences (hit by lightning, I think) and 
    was displaying psychic abilities.  People were calling in to the show
    and he was responding to them.  Much of his response would bypass
    their material concerns and focus on the spiritual significance on thier
    issues.  He was also describing the interior of peoples homes to them over
    the phone as they were speaking without having seen them.  He was a
    popular guest on that TV show.
    
    The only equipment that I remember them talking about was a bed on
    somekind.  I think it was like a sensory deprivation experience.  It
    was enclosed.  Initially there would be light, but it would slowly be
    turned down until there was total darkness in the chamber.  They played
    (New Age?) music into it help the person have an out of the body
    experience.
    
    The only other thing that I remember from the show was that they had
    been to Russia.  The Russians had done a lot of research working on
    paranormal issues.  Moody had gone to tap into their findings.  I
    believe he was supposed to have a return trip to Russia in the past
    year.
    
    tc 
    
    
    person have an out of the body experience.

    I wonder what (if anything) the Russian researchers have found.  Has
    anyone ever seen any information on that?

    PBS had something on Russian research just last week (4/93).  They have
    done research on a wide variety of extrasensory skills.  I didn't see
    the whole program and had doubts about their methodologies.  Some of
    the things were:
    
    - people who could guess color patterns
    - people who could read with their fingers (not braille).  This one lady
      was supposed to be able to read by touching someone else who was
      touching the book print.
    - people who could bend metal with their thoughts (ie, Uri Geller)
    - people who could make their bodies magnetic
    - people who could levitate things
    
    I'm not sure were I heard this (from a note, on that program, or
    another source), but people who were artists and musicians are said to
    exhibit more extrasensory ability then math/science types.
                                                           
    There were two of their findings which the Russians did not prove:
                                                                   
    One, a levitation performance was definetly proven to be a hoax by the 
    Western camera crew.  This individual was supposedly there most successful
    and documented levitator.  He could make small objects (ie, cigarettes)
    float.  However, the camera crew showed that he would get to the
    opposite side of the room where people couldn't see so well.  Then he
    would sit and make a cigarette float between his legs while his hands
    were fashioning some invisible energy ball around the object.  The
    camera crew was able to pick up a fine string that he had between his
    pant legs that he was looping around the cigarette and holding it with
    tension on the string (by widening the space between his legs).  This
    guy was totally discredited.  He tried it with an aluminum can, but the
    string couldn't grasp the side of the can. 
    
    The second topic was people who could increase their own
    electromagnetic field so much so that they could make objects stick to
    their body.  I'm not sure that I saw anything that couldn't have stuck
    based on the angle and the weight of the object.  However, there was
    one guy that put a metal plate to his chest and then had things stick
    to the other side of the plate.  That one was a curiosity, unless the
    plate itself was magnetic.  
    
    If the Russian research proved anything, it is that humans have a long
    way to go on developing any such skills.
    
    tc

    Re: .12
    
    I believe I saw the same program.  Wasn't there also mention of their
    psychic medicine research (or was that a different show).  Supposedly,
    the Russians use the "laying on of hands" healing a bit more, and
    provide training to "talented" individuals.
    
    Beth Griffin