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Title:Psychic Phenomena
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Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1778.0. "Terminally gullible?" by HOO78C::ANDERSON (I'll think about that tomorrow.) Mon Dec 21 1992 12:10

         From The Psychic News 7 Nov 1992

         "Some of us had come as far afield as Scotland to be  present
         at Mr Lincoln's seance," said Mrs  Betty  Allen,  spokeswoman
         for the Noah's Ark Society.  "Mr  Lincoln  has  a  tremendous
         reputation as a physical medium. We all took  off  our  shoes
         and in next to no time a luminous octopus began to  float  in
         the air. Then the spirit trumpet sounded. But then the lights
         went on and Mr Lincoln was revealed standing in the middle of
         the room blowing a toy trumpet. We were devastated. But  then
         Mr Lincoln said: `Daniel has done it. It is Daniel's  fault.'
         Then he explained that it was Daniel who had  picked  up  the
         the trumpet and put it in his, Mr Lincoln's,  hand,  but  the
         spirit world had turned on the lights to show the  fraud  and
         rid Mr Lincoln of the possessing entity. This satisfied  most
         of the Society's membership, and on we went."

    Now I can see them being taken in the first time, but when the man is
    caught red handed they then accept the most ridiculous of excuses I
    find that they do not seem to be capable of critical judgement.

    BTW I do not read The Psychic News, the quote was in another magazine
    which I do read. 

    Jamie.
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1778.1imagery is everythingTOLKIN::DUMARTTue Dec 22 1992 09:494
    do you think that the 'luminous octopus' that appeared had a direct
    relationship to their taking off their shoes?
    
    pan
1778.2re:1778AIMHI::SEIFERTTue Dec 22 1992 16:1322
    Gullible people amaze me!!!
    
    First of all if someone has gone on to the after life...leave them
    there.  It take so much energy for them to come back into our world.
    I think it is incredible selfish to ask a spirit to come back just for
    our benefit.
    
    Secondly, everyone wants to have contact with the spirit world so much
    that they are willing to listen to anyone who states that they have 
    contact with the dead....
    
    Every person is capable of having contact with angels, spirit guides
    and their God-self if they just ask....
    
    We have to ask for contact with them..."When the student is ready the
    teacher will appear."  
    
    We should all stop looking to others to provide us with answers and
    start asking our OWN angels and spirit guides.
    
    
    
1778.3How?POWDML::COSTIGANis it summer yet?Mon Dec 28 1992 19:494
    Re: .2
    
    Is there a "correct" way to ask for our spirit guides; is meditation 
    a prerequisite for any response to be given?  
1778.4Just ask...........AIMHI::SEIFERTTue Dec 29 1992 15:4856
    Re: .2
    
    Meditation is the only I have found to quiet my mind to allow
    angels and spirit guides to communicate to me.
    
    There are certain steps I have learned at the Heart of Dove Center and
    also through a lot of reading.  I have included these steps below.  I
    would suggest trying different methods until you find one you feel
    comfortable with.  This is what I do:
    
    I first surround myself in a protection of white light.  If I don't do
    this first then I could allow negative spirits come in. I have learned
    that when in doubt to asked if the spirit is of the light. If they were
    of the light they were they would say yes, if not they would leave.
     This is call discernment.
    
    Then I would state I am willing to recieve the love, light and wisdom.
    Please make yourself present.
    
    It wasn't easy at first and I didn't get any response for a while
    however once I learned to quiet all the noise in my mind I became
    receptive.
    
    I first made contact with my angel after about a month. I didn't
    believe all of this was true until one night when I saw here face.  It
    was pretty amazing and I did think that I had gone crazy but I have
    since come to believe.  Too many wonderful things have happen to me not
    to believe.
    
    Just recently I was introduced to my spirit guides.  I do not
    know their names yet and the encounted was only brief.
    
    The messages I have recieved have been simple. They have not asked me
    to save the world or doing something totally incredible for humanity
    they have just given me a lot of insight into people, situtations and
    my own spiritual path.
    
    Once I got over the fact that I hadn't gone crazy or had become a
    flower child I relaxed and enjoyed the whole process.  I look forward
    to meditating and talking to them.
    
    So that in a nutshell is how I talk to my angels and spirit guides.
    
    If you are interested I would recommend reading"Intro to Channeling,
    Argartha, Ask your Angels or Angel Messengers"
    
    I buy most of my books from the Unicorn in Arlington, MA. I make a
    wonderful afternoon trip out of it.  They let you sit there and drink
    herbal tea while you decide which one you want to purchase.  The
    bookstore is soley devoted to New Age so you can basically find
    anything you want there.
     
    
    Blessings
    
    M..........	
1778.5sorry for the typos..........AIMHI::SEIFERTTue Dec 29 1992 15:508
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    I just burned my hand this morning so please forgive any
    typos...........
    
    Blessings
    
    M.............
1778.6It happens all over the worldTRUCKS::MANGANTue Feb 02 1993 11:0534
    Hi,
    
        My girlfriend is naturally very psychic since youth. Myself very
    very little. I gather the ability, although present in everyone as you
    say, varies enormously in degree between individuals and is mainly a
    function of the body, not the spirit. This ability is also divided into
    key areas of strength. a bit like having an ability at music, but not
    being very good at composing or chords or harmenising, just playing 
    melodies. 
    
    I understand that all are capable of receiving inspiration, (whether
    they realise or not), the majority can feel spirit
    presences. Less common is the ability to hear and less common still is
    the ability to see. Transfiguration mediums and physical mediums are
    less common still.  ( I have some notes somewhere, if I can find them)
    
    We have been sitting in a psychic development circle for approx 18
    months now. We meet about once a week.  It is still early days for me.
    I can certainly feel presences. If I am internally quiet, I can project
    myself and feel the shape of them/shake hands/hug. I think I can feel
    size/shape/sex but need much more practise to be sure. I am a little
    paranoid about my own wish fulfillment so tend to want to go slow in
    advancement, which will probably hold me up. This is a price I am
    willing to pay to keep my intellect quiet.
    
    I seem to be more interested in the what/whys of the universe rather
    than spirit communication for it's own sake. Maybe I will write a book
    some day, who knows.
    
    
    	Anyway,
     	best wishes in your learnings
    
    Steve