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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1565.0. "Mind Control & Subconscious Phenomenas" by 53273::HUNYOR (Penguins are bored by the icecream) Mon Oct 21 1991 11:51

        
          
        
        	 Hi!
         
        			      
        My name is Paula. I'm 2o years old. I work for DEC Hungary
        I'd like to correspond with somebody who knows the 
        
        	SILVA MIND CONTROL 
        methods and who is interested in it and has practised for a long
        time. I'm very curious about your opinion and your successes.
        I've been learning the methods for 2 years and the more I
        deal with it, the more interested I'm.
                
                                              
         I'm looking forward to your answer.
                                          
                                   
        				PAULA
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1565.1Ground control to station 1...MISERY::WARD_FRMaking life a mystical adventureMon Oct 21 1991 12:567
    re: .0 (Paula)
    
         There is a note about Silva Mind Control (somewhere within
    the first 500 notes, I think.)   Note 1000 has a directory.
    
    Frederick
    
1565.2welcome!!ENABLE::glantzMike @TAY 227-4299 TP Eng LittletonMon Oct 21 1991 13:043
Wow, Budapest!!! Egesegere!

- Mike (galiziano, not really magyar)
1565.3COMICS::BELLThe haunted, hunted kindMon Oct 21 1991 13:3012
  
  Re .0 (Paula)
  
  Have a look at #110.* ... it's a little out of date but some of the people
  are still around ...
  
  > I've been learning the methods for 2 years and the more I
  > deal with it, the more interested I'm.                   
  
  Out of interest, did you learn from a book (ISBN no?) or a course ? 
  
  Frank (who hasn't tried either ... yet :-)
1565.4Looking for verification of benefits ...DWOVAX::STARKPriorities confuse the mindMon Oct 21 1991 17:1519
    I only know of it from the published books, but I wasn't able to
    duplicate any of the more interesting reputed effects with my
    limited understanding of the methods from my reading.  
    
    I also was disappointed that someone who came into my Aikido club
    a while back and claimed a fair degree of mastery of pain control
    using Silva Mind Control methods was unable to demonstrate that
    control in the situation of pain techniques.  One could argue that
    this is not a fair test.  However I *do* have a teachable pain control 
    mind skill that *does* work for this application.  So at best, I could say
    that either the claimant did not have the level of skill they claimed,
    or that that particular skill is not as general purpose as the claimant
    believed.  In either case, I formed a negative impression of the
    practical benefits of the method for my own purpose.   I'd be interested
    in revisiting it if someone else has a similar Silva method,
    particularly for pain control or similar skills applicable to martial arts 
    practice.
    
    								todd
1565.7Good point, but not quite that simpleDWOVAX::STARKPriorities confuse the mindTue Oct 22 1991 14:2523
    re: .5,
    	It depends on the application, Marcos.  In competitive
    	martial arts practice, and generally in training, you wish
    	to acknowledge the application of a submission technique,
    	and then move on to the next round or the next drill.
    	In that case, the technique would be applied very sparingly
    	so that you are not injured.  Some joint locks and nerve techniques
    	are more likely to result in injury than others.  Some generally do very
    	little in the way of extended damage, unless your counter is
    	extremely radical.  Many Aiki locks are particularly of this nature
    	because they work in the natural direction of joints, rather
    	than opposing them, and use a multi-joint commutative
    	principle to stretch and control a number of things at once rather than
    	focusing pressure on a delicate joint.
    
    	Also, in 'combatives', there is a need to work against a pain hold
    	or joint lock in spite of the pain, because the opponent's
    	next move is to kill you, which is much worse than even
    	a protracted rehabilitation.  If your mind is taken by the
    	pain, you cannot defend yourself from the finishing movement(s),
    	so pain control is an essential part of the counter.
    	
    								todd