| I'll leave an overview to those more proficient than I at such things,
but you might like to read the very readable bboks by John Grinder and
Richard Bandler especially Frogs into Princes, Patterns of the Hypnotic
Techniques of Milton H Erickson, They lived Happily Ever After and
Trance-Formations.
The work came out of careful study of Erickson and I must admit that
being a 'Carl Rogers Man' myself I find it all a little manipulative
(especially having just finished reading Against Therapy)
Like the Curate's Egg; there's some good bits, some bad.
Brian
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| There's also a fairly sizable topic dedicated to NLP in QUOKKA::PSYCHOLOGY,
note 98.*, which might be a good jumping off place if you want to get
into the details. I have an interest in this area also, and tend to
collect postings on the subject in that note. Please don't take
that to imply that it wouldn't be interesting to discuss here, just
that there is a fairly sizable existing body of information and commentary
to start with in the other conference.
kind regards,
todd
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| re: .1, (Brian)
> The work came out of careful study of Erickson and I must admit that
> being a 'Carl Rogers Man' myself I find it all a little manipulative
> (especially having just finished reading Against Therapy)
Brian, please consider suspending judgement until you read some of the
more recent works in NLP and related therapies, or come across more current
practitioners. The trend now is quite a bit more along
humanistic lines than Bandler's original work. I think Bandler's
eccentricities are largely responsible for that 'manipulation' impression.
It's actually a rather neutral set of theories and tools (IMO), without
the personality of the therapist to color them. I like your bit about the
Curate's Egg, it's very appropriate.
kind regards,
todd
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| Hi.
I found out about NLP because I bought a set of self-help tapes called
Personal Power, by Anthony Robbins. I got convinced by the
infomercials to try one out. I liked, and still like, what I got out
of it. So I started exploring a very little and found some of the
books mentioned in the earlier note. Reading what I have read in those
books, and comparing it to what I got from Anthony Robbins tapes and
books, it looks very much like Anthony Robbins is mostly using NLP
techniques.
Probably the main thing I got from Robbins was the idea that emotions
follow motion. The way you feel, according to him, depends quite a lot
on how you are using your body right now. So I find myself smiling on
purpose a lot, because it gives me a lift. The other thing the way you
feel depends on is what you're focusing on/thinking about. Think about
how everything in the world is getting worse and worse, and you will
probably feel worse. If you think about the last 3 or 4 really good
things that happened in your life, and focus in on what really felt
good about them, you will probably feel pretty good right now.
The other thing I got from him was the idea of the ritual. If you tend
to feel a certain emotion on a regular basis, be it positive or
negative, then you are creating that emotion. You tell yourself the
same sort of thing about it, and tend to use your body in a certain way
when it happens, and tend to picture the same sorts of things in your
mind's eye. I finally thought to apply this whole idea to the loss of
a girlfriend. It ended almost 2 years ago now, but I was still mooning
about her about 4 months ago. Then I looked for the pattern, or ritual
I was running to get myself to have those feelings of loss about her.
Then the idea is to interrupt it--do something else on
purpose--anything that takes you out of that immediate ritual.
I think the trick is to recognize that it is a self-imposed pattern
that you run on yourself, and to take a look at the little pieces of
it so that you know what they are. Then you can simply choose not do
do those little things--think those thoughts, picture those things,
hold your body, use your breath and voice in a certain way. It works.
There is MUCH more to it--some of which I could never figure out how to
use. I paid $195 for the tapes, and I've found them to be worth it to
me. I've given them to people, who've gotten next to nothing out of
them. I think I got so much out of them because I SERIOUSLY used and
evaluated them during the 60 day money back period, and that my friends
didn't have that period, so they never much used them. Whatever.
I'm going to go check out the PSYCHOLOGY note on NLP. Thanks for the
tip.
Mike
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