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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1559.0. "Tarot Card Class" by USPMLO::URBAN () Fri Oct 04 1991 11:31

    I had no one I could share this with because I couldn't think of anyone
    who would understand how I felt, but then I thought of Dejavu which I
    just recently started reading and am really intrigued with...so: 
    
    For the past year or so, I've been searching for something that I
    couldn't put my finger on around spiritual growth...but I didn't know 
    at all where to go with this.  So, I just signed up for a Tarot Card 
    reading course at a local high school, just to do something.  I've never 
    had my cards read, but am fascinated by all this and can relate to a lot 
    of things I read in Dejavu.  Anyway, last night the teacher was going to 
    do a reading on someone in class.  Well, of course, I knew she'd pick my 
    name out of the hat, and she did.  But what she told me was so wonderful 
    to me, and I'm really excited about my future now.  She said that I was 
    going to jump in "leaps and bounds" around my Spiritual growth and that 
    past live influences would come into the picture.  Also that I will 
    eventually nuture/help/heal others if I fulfill this journey.  I LOVE 
    this...  She (the cards) also told about how this came about (a trauma in 
    my life) and that I have to beware of going back to the old destructive 
    habits I use to have in my life...which I totally understand.
    
    Well, I'm happy and am excited to get started on my journey and am
    dying to meet these new people in my life.  I'm taking a Power of
    Crystals class next week too....
    
    Thanx for listening,
    
    Diana
    
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1559.1Welcome!CGVAX2::PAINTERFri Oct 04 1991 12:206
    
    Hi Diana,
    
    You definitely came to the right place! 
    
    Cindy
1559.2Keep the encouragement...with perspective...MISERY::WARD_FRMaking life a mystical adventureFri Oct 04 1991 13:3129
    re: .0 (Diana)
    
         Yes, hold on to your enthusiasm and have fun!  DEJAVU is
    certainly an area for like-minded people.
         Though I am as "far out" as most anybody else in here ;-}
    I would like to point out a couple of things to you based on
    your information.  First, *anyone* who is reaching for spiritual
    aspects within him/herself will almost automatically be doing
    positive things for others.  Also, since the name of the game here
    is founded on healing our past, healing is definitely an area
    that concerns the spiritually enlightened individual.  So, putting
    those two together it would be easy to determine that one will be
    helping in the healing process not only of self, but of others.
    Another point, I believe everyone has had thousands of other
    incarnations.  I further believe that many of them act as an
    *influences* on our lives...setting up, in some cases, karmic
    potentials to resolve.  Therefore, to me what you were told is
    what I would consider a generalized truth for anyone who is into
    spiritual growth.  Of course, this is in and of itself a leap from 
    the consensus, most of which is only interested in survival, and
    much of that has only vague and desperate ideas of spirituality
    (in my opinion.)  So, while I'm glad for you that this was your
    particular "motivator" and that your interest has been piqued,
    be aware that there are far, far greater truths and stunning 
    probabilities within this spiritual/metaphysical reality.  I hope
    you get to discover some of this depth.
    
    Frederick
    
1559.3Looking for guidanceUSPMLO::URBANMon Oct 07 1991 18:4825
    Frederick,
    
    I was just wondering if you read cards or know a lot about that...I
    mean more so than I do just being a beginner and all.  I agree with
    your conclusions around positive and healing, but what I thought was
    that it was the cards that led her to that outcome.  I mean, the last
    card was the nurturing card which kind of summed everything up I
    thought.  I kind of simplified the whole reading I guess...you'd have
    had to be there I think.  Anyway, the way I feel is that even if she
    made the whole thing up, it was the perfect thing to say to me that
    night...  Also, you mentioned past lives...do you think that everyone I
    meet is someone I knew in the past...I never considered that if so.
    
    Just wanted to that you for your comments and those who have written me
    off-line.  Like I said, I've been interested in spirituality for quite
    some time but didn't know where to go with this.  I'm actually looking
    for some guidance here...that's why I signed up for this class.  I
    thought it might give me some answers/direction.  I am excited about
    where this may lead...  If you have any other ideas I could consider,
    just forward them to me...I'd appreciate it.  I'm planning on taking an
    astrology course next...
    
    Thanx again,
    
    Di
1559.4Practicing phrenology on myself...MISERY::WARD_FRMaking life a mystical adventureTue Oct 08 1991 12:5441
    re: .3 (Di)
    
         I know very little about the Tarot (cards), though lots of people
    around me work effectively with them.  From what I've seen, the Tarot
    can provide a great deal of depth and truth for each person, using
    the un-conscious to unravel the sub-conscious, as it's source.
    So, if we speak of the Tarot here, I would be well over my head
    very quickly.
         Also, do not invalidate your experience...and do not let me or
    anyone else invalidate your experience.  What you felt/thought/
    experienced is for you to own.  I did not wish to dampen your
    enthusiasm, but rather I wanted to point out that there is a
    window of opportunity, in what you described, for your negative
    ego to arise.  The negative ego has not been adequately talked
    about in this conference...maybe one of these days we'll do it...
    but for now let me give you a few sentences of what the negative
    ego (that "voice" inside your head that goes on and on and on...)
    can say:  "I was just told by an expert that I am a healer...wow!
    Now I am a healer and everything I touch will be healed and saved.
    Now I am becoming the best healer in the world.  Now I am the
    greatest healer that ever lived."  But the negative ego can come
    not only from a "better than," it can also approach things from
    the opposite direction, the "less than":  "I failed; I was supposed
    to be a great healer, but I can't heal a wet paper bag.  I'm a 
    lousy healer.  Since I'm a healer and I'm lousy, I must be a 
    scum bag, not a worthwhile human at all.  I don't deserve to live."
    So, again, perhaps I didn't make it clear or do it effectively,
    but as I read your note I saw the opportunity there for this to
    happen.  So, I just wanted you to keep your enthusiasm, but to
    balance the information.  Is this clearer?
        Also, no, not everyone we encounter comes from a past life
    (think about it, where do they all start?  They've got to start
    someplace...)  My guess is that the vast majority of people we
    encounter are "first-timers."  Although, in many cases, karmic
    events may set up similar situations or events and therefore
    even people (similar personalities.)
        So, go for it!
    
    
    Frederick
      
1559.5I get it...USPMLO::URBANTue Oct 08 1991 16:3014
    re: .4
    
    I understand about the negative ego stuff...I do always have to be
    careful around that because I'm used to doing the "less than" stuff all
    the time.  I'm working on my self-esteem and self-confidence, and
    taking classes seems to help me there.  I went to a Crystals class last
    night that I found quite interesting.  I really didn't know a thing
    about crystals, but now I do and plan on studying this more too.  I'm
    just happy that I'm finally doing things for my benefit and
    self-discovery...that's a big step in itself.  If I help myself, that's
    wonderful, and if I can help someone else because of it, then even
    better...
    
    Di