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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:	Psychic Phenomena
Notice:	Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:	JARETH::PAINTER

Created:	Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:	Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2143
Total number of notes:	41773

1504.0. "Philadelphia Experiment/Ancients/Cover-ups & killings!" by FORTY2::CADWALLADER () Fri Jul 19 1991 09:06

I wasn't sure whether to Note here or WIDGET::UFOS (I might put something there
too).

I read with interest a section in "Without A Trace" by Charles Berlitz, which
described the well-known Philadelphia Experiment: an experiment to render a US
destroyer radar-invisible by use of very strong magnetic fields. DeGaussing
generators were used to envelope the ship in pulsating & non-pulsating fields.
Upon starting the generators a green glow was seen which soon covered the ship,
which to everyones amazement proceeded to become invisible (the only visible 
sign was the indentation of the ship's hull i the water. The ship was also
observed to appear at a dry-dock many hundreds of miles away, and then disappear
again! The experiment was a complete success on the ship, but a complete failure
on the crew. Many suffered side-effects such as becoming "stuck" whereupon they
would "freeze" and the only solution was for others nearby to "lay-on-hands" to
try and free the person. Some unfortunates were "frozen" for many months. Others
spontaneously became invisible (one was seen to walk through a wall at a bar and
was not seen thereafter). A fair amount of the crew went completely mad - and I
hear that some of the horrors seen by the crew during the experiment were truly
indescribable (not unlike the things described by H.P.Lovecraft - (however this
last piece of info. is only hearsay).

A notable UFO investigator (I am afraid I don't have the book with me for refs 
at present) had written a book about UFOs within which was a section regarding
the above. He was invited to a meeting at a top US Navy R&D base with regard to
his book. When he arrived, a copy of his book which had come into the hands of
the Navy top-brass was being handed around. The book had been hand-annotated by
3 people (unknown) who used different coloured inks to distinguish themselves.
The nature of the notes with regard to the effects noted from the above, had a
previous-knowledge aspect i.e. the notes were not considering what effects were
implied by the experiment, they were actually commenting on how accurate the 
book had been in describing effects which the annotators were familiar with. The
annotators also appeared to have "cosmic-knowledge" spanning many thousands of
years, describing for example a previous destruction of the Earth's surface in
a interplanetary war and previous civilisations. The book was so noteworthy as
to be circulated around the pentagon! Limited copies of the annotated version
may still be obtained by researchers. The author of the book recognised one of
the annotators handwriting/style as a Mr.Allen (or Allende) with whom he had
been in contact when researching his book. A subsequent attempt by the US Navy
to trace Mr.Allen was fruitless (probably to the benefit of Mr.Allen - see next
paragraph).

Finally, (sorry for the long note), a trend was described in "Without A Trace"
which is very disturbing, as if the results of the Phil. Exp. were not already
disturbing enough! It seems that UFO/parapsychic investigators customarily
receive visits from "Men In Black" (mysterious olive-skinned humanoids who 
appear and disappear in large cadillacs very abruptly) who warn them not to 
continue their research, whenever the researcher is nearing a particularly
astounding conclusion to their work. If they continue, they receive further 
visits and threatening phone calls - and even eventually "disappear", "commit
suicide" or get shot by an unknown gunman (one researcher was shot through his
groundfloor appartment window). Another had completed his research into the
effects of the Phil. Exp. and was actually traveling by car to give his final
papers to a fellow scientist when he (apparently) just stopped his car, and
committed suicide. Needless to say, his papers were missing when he was found &
they have not been (publicly) recovered.

My 3 paragraphs - assuming they relate to true facts - raise many disturbing
and astounding issues: including magnetic field influence to attain invisibility
and instantaneous transportation, the existence of non-human elements amongst
our population (and hence their aims?, their source?, benevolent/harmful?, their
nature - (spiritual/physical/extra-terrestrial)? ), the apparent cover-up & non-
advancement policy imposed by (?... who), why is work into paranormal areas
restricted (is it dangerous - planet-wide?, too soon?, economically disasterous?
 and so on...).

Any comments would be appreciated 	%^)	.

								- JIM CAD*

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1504.1		HOO78C::ANDERSON	With scratch 'n' sniff armpits	`Fri Jul 19 1991 12:35`	5
	>Any comments would be appreciated %^) . It was an exercise in rabid paranoia? Jamie.
1504.2	... wh? ...	FORTY2::CADWALLADER		`Fri Jul 19 1991 14:33`	7
	you mean a psychich researcher, suddenly hit the realisation that everybody was out to get him, and pop did himself in? HMMmmmmm.... you could be right! But how could somebody go outside, shoot themselves and get back in in time to die? eh? eh? >8')
1504.3	was my mother-in-law on that ship.	TIMBOX::LACROIX		`Fri Jul 19 1991 18:38`	4
	Interesting..... Thanks for adding it, In the entry you said the ship was observed to appear and then disappear in a dry dock a few hundred miles away. Did you mean at the time, or during the exp.
1504.4		VERGA::STANLEY	What a long strange trip it's been...	`Fri Jul 19 1991 18:55`	1
	It must have been dry docked there before, then.
1504.5	Is it real or memorex :*)	WR2FOR::HAMBEL_SH	We're not in Kansas anymore Toto	`Fri Jul 19 1991 22:17`	11
	Jim What an interesting book. I don't know all that much about the Philadelphia(sp?) experimant. Was it a real event or fiction or is that still debated?? I have to read the book I guess, thanks for the note you have peaked my interest. =8*) shannon
1504.6	related "reading"...	FORTY2::CADWALLADER		`Mon Jul 22 1991 09:49`	12
	I did not see when I entered the note that there was already a topic for this in WIDGET::UFOS. Take a look here, there is some fascinating stuff. Apparently C.Berlitz's material should be taken with a bucket of salt ;^) - I will bear this is mind in future research. With regard to the appearance of the ship at dry dock - this was during the course of the experiment. The Phil. Exp. note is WIDGETS::UFOS (Topic #36). Has anybody got any further reading re: the Phil. Exp. which is not by C. Berlitz? - JIM CAD*
1504.7	Seeing is Believing!	BOSOX::FARNHAM		`Mon Jul 22 1991 19:07`	2
	The movie of the Phil Exp has been on TV more than once.... so it must be true.
1504.8		HOO78C::ANDERSON	Everyone is someone else's weirdo.	`Wed Jul 24 1991 08:46`	11
	Re .7 -< Seeing is Believing! >- Congratulations, not many notes make me laugh out loud. A perfect title for an experiment in invisibility. Someone asked if there were any other books on the subject _not_ written by that nice Mr Berlitz. Well I looked through my library and almost found one. It is "The Philadelphia Experiment" By Charles Berlitz and William Moore. It was first published in 1979. Jamie.
1504.9	hahaha...	CGVAX2::PAINTER	Celebrate!	`Wed Jul 24 1991 15:13`	7
	Re.8 (Anderson) It's good that this conference is a source of your amusement, Jamie. I prefer the Dave Barry conference myself. Cindy
1504.10		HOO78C::ANDERSON	Everyone is someone else's weirdo.	`Thu Jul 25 1991 11:37`	3
	So do I, but it is only updated weekly. Jamie.
1504.11	DAVE BARRY	TIMBOX::LACROIX		`Mon Jul 29 1991 14:53`	3
	Oh Me Oh My...I just love being between two woman like this, Ha cha cha cha! Just kidding Jamie and Cindy, What is the Dave Barry conference. Jeff
1504.12	Guess what I saw !	SWAM1::MILLS_MA	To Thine own self be True	`Mon Jul 29 1991 15:25`	12
	This is nothing to do with the actual case, but the movie _The Philadelphia Experiment_ was on TV here in LA this weekend. During a motel room scene, where one of the two "time travelers" was watching TV, there came on a DIGITAL commercial! It said something about Digital Equipment Corp. and asked people to call 1-800-DIGITAL for a store near them. Guess DEC knows what movies people are likely to watch!
1504.13		HOO78C::ANDERSON	Everyone is someone else's weirdo.	`Tue Jul 30 1991 05:44`	13
	>Oh Me Oh My...I just love being between two woman like this, Ha cha >cha cha! Just kidding Jamie and Cindy, Jeff, I fear I have some sad news for you. Before you get too comfy between Cindy and my good self I think that it is only proper to point out that I am 49 years old, hairy and male. The name Jamie is the Scottish diminutive for James. >What is the Dave Barry conference. Press Kp7 or select. Jamie.
1504.14	More info.	FORTY2::CADWALLADER		`Tue Jul 30 1991 09:13`	4
	See also Note 222 in DECWET::PHYSICS regarding Phil. Exp. etc... - JIM CAD*
1504.15	Yikes	TIMBOX::LACROIX		`Wed Jul 31 1991 18:57`	3
	Sorry there Jamie for the slip :-) Thats what I get for being a wise-guy. Firm hand shakes and beer, Jeff
1504.16		HOO78C::ANDERSON	Everyone is someone else's weirdo.	`Thu Aug 01 1991 05:34`	3
	Never mind Jeff as I'm gay I wouldn't really have minded. Jamie.
1504.17	How about a manly hug and...	CGVAX2::PAINTER	moon, wind, waves, sand	`Thu Aug 01 1991 20:04`	9
	Re.15 Jeff, I'll take the beer. It'd better be a good one. You know, one that'll put hair on your chest... Cindy
1504.18	Madonna made me do it ... :-)	5848::KALLIS	Pumpkins -- Nature's greatest gift	`Fri Aug 02 1991 11:14`	8
	re .17 (Cindy): >I'll take the beer. It'd better be a good one. You know, one that'll >put hair on your chest... Err ... umm ... is there some new trend in feminine fashion starting here? ;-D Steve Kallis, Jr.
1504.19		NOPROB::JOLLIMORE	I was 16 in '68	`Fri Aug 02 1991 11:47`	9
	Cindy, If it's hair on your chest you want .... ;') I'd be afraid of spontanious combustion of the extremities tho :-) Mal
1504.20	talk about hot stuff	ATSE::FLAHERTY	Enlighten up!!	`Fri Aug 02 1991 12:32`	4
	Wow, Mal, you're 'hot' today!!! ;') 8^) Ro
1504.21	I'm skinny.	FORTY2::CADWALLADER		`Fri Aug 02 1991 12:41`	6
	I'd like to have a chest to put hair on... %^D - JIM CAD* (hairy bones aren't sexy)
1504.22		VERGA::STANLEY	What a long strange trip it's been...	`Fri Aug 02 1991 14:52`	1
	I think they are. :-)
1504.23	Holy Shmokes	TIMBOX::LACROIX		`Fri Aug 02 1991 15:44`	4
	Hi gang, You guys are alot of fun. Sorry to anyone interested in the Philadelphia Exp. Now everyone...PIG PILE ON CINDY! ;-) Jeff.
1504.24		VERGA::STANLEY	What a long strange trip it's been...	`Fri Aug 02 1991 16:25`	3
	I'm interested... time travel is a hobby of mine. :-) Mary
1504.25	(;^P	CGVAX2::PAINTER	moon, wind, waves, sand	`Sun Aug 04 1991 21:23`	1

1504.26	men in black	BTOVT::BEST_G	the first of a dying breed	`Tue Oct 15 1991 18:56`	6
	Is the author of .0 still alive? You were getting awfully close to a conclusion there....;-) guy
1504.27		RIPPLE::GRANT_JO	crackling wrack and shells	`Tue Oct 15 1991 21:59`	6
	Yes, JIM CAD* is alive and well and recently seen noting, the men in black, not being employed by a U.S. Senator, being unable to locate him. ;^) Joel
1504.28	I'm here!	FORTY2::CADWALLADER	Rifle butts to crush you down...	`Wed Oct 16 1991 11:03`	8
	Hi, Thanks for the concern, I'm just going about my business as usual and there's been no - Hang on!, who's that? That ain't my boss!!! Why's he looking at me like that?! YIKES!!!! NYARRRGGGHHHHH!!!! (Time to retire to the lavatory - quickly) :-) - JIM CAD*
1504.29	last couple	BTOVT::BEST_G	the first of a dying breed	`Wed Oct 16 1991 11:36`	5
	;-) ;-) ;-) g
1504.30	but did it happen?	BRYAN::TREBILCOTT	GM/EDS Account Group	`Fri Jun 12 1992 20:02`	9
	LAte as this is... was that a true story or no? Rented the video... It was interesting... but did it happen? I have mucho mucho navy in the family...should I bother to ask them?
1504.31	The Dean of SF says No	DPDMAI::MILLERR	My other office is a TARDIS	`Mon Jun 15 1992 15:04`	14
	There were several SF authors working on a project in the Philadelphia navy yards during the time period this supposedly happened (Robert Heinlein, Isaac Asimov, Theodore Sturgeon, among others). According to each of them, when asked about it, they say "This never happened. If it did, we would have known about it, because we were working in those secret groups. We wish it had happened, but unfortunately everything we were doing was pretty boring." (not a direct quote, BTW). Source: "Requeim" - stories and articles by Robert Heinlein, published posthumously. - Russ