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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1467.0. "Fortelling Children - ?" by WECARE::BOURGOINE () Tue May 14 1991 15:55

Hi,


I'm not sure where this belongs, but I know the people participating 
in this conference would be the one's to ask:

I'm looking for opinions (?) about something that I ran into this 
weekend.   I'm 5+ months pregnant (first), and met up with my Uncle and Aunt
over this past weekend who told me they could tell me what sex my baby 
is/would be, and how many children I would have - of course I smiled 
and said "OK" - My Uncle took a pencil, and put a threaded needle into 
the eraser, told me to hold my arm still and held the pencil by the thread 
over my wrist (he braced his arm with his other hand and none of us 
saw any movement) - he told me if it swung back and forth that it would be a 
boy and if it swung around in a circle it would be a girl - and between 
each the pencil would come to a stop and start again indicating another 
child - OK, OK I said and sat very still - well, it came up 2 girls, 
which was kind of neat, but I wasn't sure I buying this, so he said he 
could try it on my husband (who he just met that day - so he knew 
nothing about him) - note: my husband has a son from a previous 
marriage - and sure enough, first a boy and then 2 girls; OK, so now 
I'm getting kind of creepy.  As another test, I asked if he could do 
this on my mother (note: My sister, 2 brothers and I are adopted) - 
when he put the pencil over my mothers wrist - it was completely still.
Everyone we've tried it on since has come up RIGHT, and my uncle 
assures me that he's never been wrong.

Well, here's hoping you can give me some insight into what this is all 
about - theories, opinions etc. would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Pat



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1467.1SCARGO::CONNELLWe are gay and straight, together.Tue May 14 1991 18:5935
    First, let me congratulate you on the baby. (Babies?twins) Now let
    preface this by saying that I don't really no and the following is
    IMHO, very much so. I belive this is a form of Dowsing or uses similar
    methods. Just tapping into the electromagnetic field of the fetus. Male
    and female have different wave lengths. Anima and Animus. So does the
    Earth, which is why dowsing works for some and not others. They have a
    close affinity for the Earth. My Grandfather could and no one else in
    our family can. However all my blood relatives could do your needle
    trick on my wife, because of the blood-bond between them and our
    children. It always stopped at 3 and with her relatives, it always
    stopped at 5. We had 2 children in our marriage. She has a girl by her
    current husband. She had 2 abortions without telling me. (I found out
    after I got the bills) One of which could be mine and the 2nd time it
    was physically impossible for me to have conceived the child. We hadn't
    been sleeping in the same house, let alone the same bed for months.
    Teh sex was predicted correctly for each child. I can't tell about the
    ones she aborted, but they were one of each. 
    
    Now here is the kicker. Just before my daughter was born, my
    Grandmother told me she wouldn't see her born, but would ask God to
    send us a little girl like we wanted, only catch was it would look like
    me. (She does, but on her it works) Grammie died 3 months before my
    daughter was born. Before this the needle moved like it was a boy, she
    carried the fetus like a boy, (Higher or lower, I forget which) the
    heart beat was slower, like a boys, and the GYN said it was a boy and
    he has an 88% track record over 25 years of delivering babys. Now
    Grammie dies and all the signs change to a girl. Including the needle
    motion. Don't tell me it doesn't work. I know better. Just don't be
    spooked by it. It just people with an infinity for the planet and human
    electromagnetic fields and the different ones for the different sexes.
    
    Remember the above is only IMHO and I amy be totally off base here.
    Just my thoughts and Good Luck with your daughters in the future.
    
    PJ
1467.2Maybe onlookers influence it?TOOK::FERNERTue May 14 1991 20:2116
	I remember seeing this done a number of years ago except a needle
	strung on a piece of thread was used, as .1 mentioned.  I only
	remember seeing it done to women.  It was amazingly accurate as 
	far as telling the sexes of children which the women already had
	but I remember one case where it made predictions which turned 
	out to be wrong.  One woman had 2 boys already and the needle
	indicated first 2 boys then 2 girls for her.  Within the next
	few years the woman did have another child but it turned out
	to be another boy.  She never did have a 4th child and is now
	at the end of her child-bearing years so I doubt she'll have
	another.

	Who knows?

	...Linda

1467.3It came true for me!!!WLDWST::GGARZAThu May 16 1991 02:3213
    When I was about nine or ten, my friend's mother was pregnant and I 
    was at the house when a visiting friend said let's find out what the
    baby is. She used a needle and thread, rubbing the thread up and down
    next to her wrist with the needle on the bottom. Same result, if the the
    needle moved from side to side it would be a boy and if moved in a circle
    it would be a girl. Well they decided to try it on everybody. When they
    did it on me I was suppose to have a girl and then a boy. Well guess
    what... it came true for me. My first born was a girl and eleven years
    later I had my boy.  I don't plan on having anymore children. I'v
    never tried it on anyone else, but my sister is now pregnant and I
    think I'll try it on her just to see what happens. Good Luck to you... 
    
    
1467.4Baloon Budging = Baby Boom?TEAM01::TEAM10::SCHNEIDERThu May 16 1991 03:2520
    Along these lines...
    
    I was recently at a seminar with my wife. we were practicing moving one
    of those metallic baloons without touching it.  Each of us in turn sat
    on the floor.  I tried it with good sucess, and then my wife sat down
    to try it.  The baloon took off toward her like a magnet had drawn it.
    
    Another lady named Kathy knelt down in front of it and the same thing
    happened. Kathy was 6 months pregnant at the time.  Jeff, our host,
    said that my wife must also be preggers too.  The next day we took one
    of those home pregnancy test and she was pregnant.
    
    Who'd a thunk it!
    
    This "pull" did not happen to any of the other women at the seminar
    (just in case you might be thinking it's one of those "female"
    happenings.
    
    Kevn
    
1467.5"Girls, dreams"WLDWST::GUILLENThu May 16 1991 03:3315
    I've heard of alot of ways to tell the sex of child but these last
    replies were the most common. I knew both sexes of my children.
    I knew the first one would not live although I carried her 9 mos.
    I don't know how I knew I just had the feeling. Everything was
    normal until the last 3 minutes. I had a dream the night before
    that alittle girl who I didn't know was talking to me how she
    wanted to visit me but she couldn't come this time. It really
    spooked me the next day I went into labor for 16 hours but
    the baby girl was still born. She had heart failure. It took
    two years to try again but this time I knew it was a girl and
    she was going to be small at birth. Sure enough my second girl
    was born 1 month early 3lbs 5oz. That really scared me I knew
    exactly what she would look like. Till this day I can't figure
    these things out. MY daughter is now 15years old and very healthy.
    I still remember that dream sometimes as though it was real.
1467.6IS IT WILD GUESSING?IAMOK::ROGERThu May 16 1991 15:118
    Maybe its just wild guessing, but when I've looked at a pregnant friend
    or relative I have seen something in their face that tells me its a boy 
    or girl.  There's a special glow in their face that appears masculine 
    or feminine.  To my recollection, I've been accurate every time.
    
    Donna                                               
    
    
1467.7WILLEE::SKOWRONEKThu May 16 1991 15:4727
    Your Uncle chances of being correct are 50:50.  However, I am a firm
    believer that the mother will always know what sex her baby is going to
    be.  When I was pregnant, my Obstetrician and the Nurse Practitioner
    who worked with my OB both said (at different times) that I was going
    to have a boy because the baby moved around alot and the baby had a
    fast heartbeat.  Everyone in the world will tell you something
    different about how you are carrying and what the sex will be.  I knew
    that I was going to have a girl.  I knew from the minute I found out I
    was pregnant.  I didn't even bother to consider boy names because I
    knew it was going to be a girl and it was.  
    
    This could be just coincidence, I don't know, but I asked a few mothers
    I know if they had a feeling about the sex of their child before he/she
    was born and the ones that did were accurate.  I am a very intuitive
    person, I have had many dejavu instances and I when something "Bad" is
    going to happen I get a really eerie feeling, something that I cannot
    explain, but I know it when it happens.  I don't know if all this
    combined makes me psychic or not.  I have been told by card readers,
    psychics, etc that I have some sort of psychic ability, but I think
    that is true with everyone in the world --- I think we are all a little
    bit psychic.  
    
    Good luck with your baby, and lets just pray that it will be a very
    healthy baby regardless of the sex.
    
    Debby
    
1467.8Not 100%, but more than 50%.CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperThu May 16 1991 16:0315
    I read somewhere of a careful scientific survey of the accuracy of
    mothers in guessing the sex of their, as yet unborn, children.  It was
    significantly better than chance, but less than certainty.  Something
    like 65% accuracy.

    I can testify that the mother doesn't always know the sex.  My wife,
    Beth, was so convinced that our child was going to be a boy, that at
    the birth, when I announced "It's a girl!", she thought (as she later
    reported) "that must be someone else's, mine is a boy" -- this at a
    home birth.

    In fact virtually everyone predicted that it would be a boy -- with one
    exception: the man at our local gas station.

					Topher
1467.9They don't always know....SWAM1::MILLS_MATo Thine own self be TrueThu May 16 1991 18:3613
    I can also attest to the fact that the mother doesn't always know. When
    I was pregnant with my son, my husband and I were fairly certain it
    would be a girl, until the ultrasound when the baby turned and revealed
    his shall we say, masculinity?
    
    A co-worker who was due a week before me was also convinced that hers
    was a girl until the ultrasound/amniocentesis as well.
    
    I was very glad it was a boy, though my husband was disappointed, I had
    wanted a boy and he a girl. From the minute he found out it was a boy,
    he never had wanted anything else, however..... :^)
    
    Marilyn
1467.10We knew from the moment of conceptionAIMHI::KELLERWherever you go, there you areWed May 29 1991 13:2117
My wife knew from the minute of conception that it would be a boy, and it was. 
A friend of our did the needle and thread test and that showed a boy also. 
Which of course we already knew. Then again we had planned the whole thing out 
about a year before hand. She was going to get pregnant in January and we 
would have a boy first and then two years later we would have a girl. 

Well the funny thing is that in December we started arrangements to buy some 
land and decided that we should wait awhile to have children so that we would 
be a little more financially secure. However the plans were alread in place 
and it was too late to change them. On the day we made the closing on the land 
we conceived our son Nathaniel. He is now 8 months old and BIG and strong and 
healthy.

I definitely believe that a woman knows the sex of her child and I think that 
the father usually knows also, though he may have to look a little deeper.

Geoff
1467.11BTOVT::BEST_Gthe heart is kingWed May 29 1991 21:188
    
    I was sure of the sex of both of my children before they were 
    born.  I've even guessed right on a few others....
    
    (that were *not* my children...;-)
    
    
    guy
1467.12Update:WECARE::BOURGOINEFri Jun 21 1991 14:2220

Thanks for all of your replies!!   Truely interesting!

 - As an update:   I had my 6 month checkup/ultrasound (and other 
assorted test) last week - when I asked the Ultrasound technician told me 
that my baby is a BOY  (you may remember in note .0 my uncle said it was going 
to be a girl) - the accuracy is something like 97%.


I thought it was kind of neat - aside from my uncle's prediction, I 
too, "felt" that this baby was a girl - so when she told me "boy" I 
was very confused - it felt very strange.   


Oh, well just 3 more months to know for sure.



Pat
1467.13past life affecting gender sense?DSSDEV::GRIFFINThrow the gnome at itWed Jul 17 1991 18:0716
    I just recently had a baby (my first, a boy).  Early on in the
    pregnancy, I thought it would be a girl (although the soul seemed
    to have been in a male body the last incarnation).  Well, at a later 
    point, I started feeling like it would be a boy - I even unconsciously 
    started saying "he" in reference to the baby (up until then I used "the 
    child", or other non-gender terms).  I never did seem to shake that 
    impression of a female child, though, which caused a bit of confusion.
               
    As for .12, and waiting till birth to confirm if the ultrasound was
    correct - it probably is.  I didn't want to know the gender, so we were
    never told, but my husband guessed a boy from his own interpretation of
    the pictures (I saw the same picture and couldn't figure out a thing),
    and he was right.
    
    Good luck,
    Beth