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Title:Psychic Phenomena
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Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
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1415.0. "Impressions of Joan Borysenko, Ph.D." by NEWPRT::CELESTINO_MA () Thu Jan 17 1991 16:55

    I've just started reading "Guilt is the Teacher, Love is the
    Lesson," by Joan Borysenko.  It is an extraordinary book and
    promises to be an important one for my understanding of my-
    self and others. Hers is a spirtual, yet holistic view of 
    living.  I read her "Minding the Body, Mending the Mind" a 
    couple of years ago and was impressed by her total view of 
    life.
    
    I would like to use this note to discuss this book and to 
    learn if other noters have heard Joan Borysenko speak, met
    her, or have other experiences with her writings that they
    would like to share.
    
    The frontispiece of the book has this quote from Teihard de
    Chardin:
    
          Nothing is precious
          except that part of you which is in other people
          and that part of others which is in you.
                Up there
                  on high,
                    everything is one.
    
    
    Martha                              
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1415.1ATSE::FLAHERTYPeacing it togetherFri Jan 18 1991 11:1611
    Hi Martha,
    
    I haven't had a chance to read Joan Borysenko's book as yet, but
    it is on my 'to read' list.  I've heard good things about her for some
    time and do hope to hear her speak at Interface the next time she
    appears there.
    
    Thanks for starting this topic...
    
    Ro
    
1415.2I've read both booksSUPER::WTHOMASMon Jan 21 1991 13:0432
    	I have read both of Joan's book and was not impressed in the least
    with her first but noticed a certain amount of maturity and inner
    reflection from the second. (My Doctor's have been wanting to send me
    to her *program* for a long time now).

    	Her first book was written from the perspective, I am a Western
    Medical healer and if you are in pain, *I* know what you are going
    through and if you just follow my *easy-xx_step program* I can restore
    you to health. Needless to say, I was completely turned off. Chronic
    pain (which is one of her favorite topics) is a big money maker these
    days and I have noticed that a lot of people seem to be jumping on the
    band wagon of telling those of us with that condition what to do, what
    we are doing wrong, and why we aren't getting better.

    	The interesting thing with Joan, is that between her first book and
    her second book, she had a car accident, where she had fallen asleep at
    the wheel and I believe that her greatest injury was that her nose had
    literally been ripped off.

    	As does so often happen with life threatening events, she started
    realizing that although she had been preaching to people that they take
    care of themselves  (yoga, relaxation, etc) she was not following her
    own advice. She did a lot of inner work and her second book more
    clearly reflects the truths that she has learned.

    	I would not recommend the first book as a tool on self healing. It
    is interesting to notice how her perspective has changed from one book
    to another but other than that, her strength lies in her second book.


				Wendy
1415.3Still reading....NEWPRT::CELESTINO_MAWed Jan 23 1991 21:1440
    RE: .2
    
    I would agree that Joan's second book is much more well-rounded 
    than her first.  The first book dealt with the mind-body connection;
    her second adds the dimension of the spirit. 
    
    I did not have the negative reaction to "Mending.." that you described.
    Perhaps, not having delved deeply into TM, Eastern meditation, and 
    yoga, I was receptive to the pragmatic, down-to-earth approach that 
    Joan used.  I can understand where it might be off-putting to someone
    who was better informed.  I *did* find that the techniques she 
    described were helpful to me in dealing with debilitating headaches
    that I experience from time to time.  I always be grateful to her
    for this, even if she had only borrowed these methods from other
    cultures.
    
    The point that has particularly fascinated me about the more recent
    book is how she incorporates Jungian psychology and some of my favorite
    poets and thinkers (Blake, Merton, for example) into her discussion 
    about healing the spirit.
    
    The understandings that Jung has in his work about the meaning of dreams, 
    the spirit, and the spiritual certainly do fall very nicely into DEJAVU
    (in case anyone wondered why I posted this here).  "Guilt.." has
    made this accessible.  There remains the matter-of-fact quality in 
    this book, even with the discussions about the spirit.
    
    I'm still reading the book.  Time always seems to be at a premium and
    I'm savoring this one very slowly.
    
    Martha
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    spiritual dimension,   
    
1415.4LYRIC::BOBBITTtrial by fireTue Jan 29 1991 14:219
    I really liked both her books.  I got a good deal more from "guilt is
    the teacher, love is the lesson" than I did from the first one, though. 
    The first one meshes quite nicely with the Bernie Siegel stuff (Love,
    Medicine and Miracles, and Peace, Love and Healing), and that too ties
    in with Dr. Chopra's new views of eastern/western medicine as we grow
    to treat the patient as a whole, rather than just the symptoms.
    
    -Jody