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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1293.0. "The psychics letter " by GIDDAY::CANTLON (x.xx double precision Whetstones, please?) Tue Jun 26 1990 10:28

Hi,

I don't know if this is very interesting, I've never  really given it a whole
lot of thought until I told someone about it recently and it freaked her out,
somewhat, since I was in here cruising around I thought I'd write about it, I'd
like to know what people think.

Several years ago before I moved to Sydney from South Australia, I worked
in a small shop. We used to get 'tire-kickers' by the truckload (people who
would come in, look around, ask questions with really no intention of ever
buying), you could usually tell very early on in the conversation.  Anyway, 
one day this guy came in and was pretty up front about the fact, he wasn't 
going to buy, couldn't afford to, in fact he'd just lobbed in this city from
another state and was walking around looking for jobs and killing time. But,
he was fascinated by computers.  I wasn't real busy so I talked to him and
answered a bunch of questions until he left about an hour later.

The next day he rolled in the door again at about 4:55pm, and my sales manager
and I chatted with him until Chris, the Sales Manager asked if he wanted a beer
(we had beer and champagne or whatever every night after 5pm on the 
company if anyone wanted it).   So, after a half hour or so Chris left and I
was sitting there talking to this guy.  He was quite interesting and so I 
didn't mind.  After some time (several hours), since at that time I had a
club called IN-S.P.E.C.T.R.E.S (Society for the Provision of Evidence 
Confirming The Reported Existence of the Supernatural [ or..Things Really
Extra Spooky if you preferred]), I asked him what if any experiences he 
had with ghosts/spirits but he wouldn't bite.  Avoided it like the plague, but
I persisted since I felt there was something he wasn't letting on.  And then
out it came.  This guy was a psychic, or so he claimed, (and after knowing
him for a while there were several very convincing experiences that just 
blew my socks off). I asked him all manner of questions, anything I had 
ever wondered about and he had all the answers.  Anyway I won't go into
overly boring detail, but I was pretty damn impressed.

Some  things that I thought strange were that I could look at the guy and 
wouldn't honestly have been able to tell you his age, could have been anywhere
from 28 to 70, it was a sort of timeless quality - very hard to explain.  And
the other thing was that as it had got dark that evening and we were sitting in
the showroom (i.e. everyone walking/driving past would see in) he moved to sit 
behind this little alcove where he couldn't be seen from the street. (I know 
this is far from strange but in him, I find it unnerving even today - not that
he was scary at all, quite the opposite - a super nice bloke).

Anyway, his job didn't work out and he eventually moved back to where he'd 
come from (up bush in Queenland somewhere).  But for some time we corresponded
by mail.  Now I'm the sort of guy who has never been able to hold a letter 
for more than ten minutes before curiousity forces me to open it but the last
letter I got from him, about 2 years ago, has sat around somewhere at home
and I've never opened it.  Everytime I stumble across it again when I'm
cleaning up some of my stuff, I think about opening it but never do.  Perhaps 
I'm afraid it's got the date I really am going to open it written inside 8^)

I wonder what it says.  Anyone want to guess?  Maybe the next time I find it
I'll open it and report.

Ric  - Sydney, AUSTRALIA



P.S. I'm not convinced he's not some sort of crazy (however that is determined)
     but if he is, there sure is some strange stuff happening somewhere.
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1293.1Hm...(;^)SCARGO::PAINTERAnd on Earth, peace...Tue Jun 26 1990 17:0811
    
    G'day Ric,
    
    Well, the last time the participants in this conference were asked to 
    guess a number, the results were fairly pathetic (considering the name 
    of this conference anyway)...but it was quite fun nonetheless!  (;^)  
    Forgot which topic number it was though.
    
    Your letter sounds intriguing.  What do you think is in it?
    
    Cindy
1293.2open the letterDPDMAI::BIRDSTue Jun 26 1990 17:5910
    Hi Ric,
    
    Was wondering what made you not open it right away?  Did the fact that
    you never received any more letters make you beleieve it was the last
    one or was it an an initial "gut feeling" that this would be the last
    letter?  Just curious, the whole encounter seems quite bizarre, could
    this man somehow have something to do with YOU?  Dying to find out what
    that letter says...........
    
    Suzie B.                           
1293.3topicCADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperTue Jun 26 1990 19:285
RE: .1 (Cindy)
    
    You may be thinking of topic 914.
    
    					Topher
1293.4Wow - I'm impressed! SCARGO::PAINTERAnd on Earth, peace...Tue Jun 26 1990 21:257
    Re.3
    
    Well done, Topher!  Good guess!
    
    I guess 'pathetic' is a rather unscientific term...(;^).
    
    Cindy
1293.5what......, and spoil it?GIDDAY::CANTLONx.xx double precision Whetstones, please?Wed Jun 27 1990 10:3763
re - Note 1293.1
    
	>>    Your letter sounds intriguing.  What
	>>    do you think is in it? 
    
    	>>    Cindy

Hi Cindy.  Realistically?  In actual fact I imagine it's contents are 
spectacularly unexciting.  However, this guy was so strange that 
absolutely nothing would surprise me, while to this day I have 
difficulty comprehending much of what he told me, I can in no way 
discredit the source justifiably.  On the contrary, the only evidence 
I got suggested credibility.



re - Note 1293.2 

    
	>>    Was wondering what made you not open
	>>    it right away?  Did the fact that    
	>>    you never received any more letters make
	>>    you beleieve it was the last one or
	>>    was it an an initial "gut feeling" that
	>>    this would be the last letter?  

Hi Suzie. I couldn't really explain why I didn't open it right away.  
I never considered even that it would be the last letter, nor really 
do I today although it would appear that this is the case.  It's not 
so much the finality of it, rather it is something else.  You see it 
does not scare me as such, but it does unnerve me a bit.  Makes me 
want to look behind me in a dark room. Even when I found out about his 
spiritual 'connections' he never seemed anything other than a 
friendly, slightly eccentric chap when I actually knew him.  But some 
time after he left and I thought about it some more it seemed 
different and I felt a little uneasy about it.  This has happened 
before to me, I have had some rather strange experiences.  None of 
them frightened me at the time, nor did I even think much about them 
but they became a little more worrying when I looked back on them.
	
	>>    Just curious, the whole encounter seems 
	>>    quite bizarre, could this man somehow have
	>>    something to do with YOU?  Dying to find
	>>    out what that letter says...........

	>>    Suzie B.

    
I have never really thought of this possibility, but it would be 
possible in an obscure sort of way.  And that would go a long way to 
explaining at least one super bizarre experience.  I do remember him 
looking at me and telling me that our paths would cross again sometime 
in the future with rather disturbing confidence.

I'm in the process of moving right now, if I come across the letter 
maybe I'll bite the bullet......

seeya,

Ric


    	
1293.6VIA::GLANTZMike @ZKO, Nashua NHWed Jun 27 1990 12:462
  Maybe it's the last letter (for the time being) because he knows you
  haven't opened it ...
1293.7GO FOR IT!!!!!SWAM1::MILLS_MAWed Jun 27 1990 18:188
    Ric,
    
    I'd love to hear about some of those "bizarre" things you keep
    referring to in connection with this man.....
    
    Marilyn
    
    p.s. open the letter! I for one am dying to hear what it says.
1293.8++You are now entering the Twilight Zone++DPDMAI::BIRDSWed Jun 27 1990 19:5413
    Ric,
    me too, me too, me too, I want to hear some bizarre stories as well. 
    And the bit about your paths crossing again in the future gives me
    chills, I love it, Marilyn is right - GO For it!!!!  
    
    By the way, did you always open the letters and reply right away and
    then receive another letter or did they kinda "Cross each other" in the
    mail whereas you had just sent off a reply and another would arrive
    before he had read yours and responded or do you think he knew what
    your return letters to him said before they reached him.  oooh eee
    ooooh.  
    
    		Suzie
1293.9Bizarre Experience No.1.GIDDAY::CANTLONx.xx double precision Whetstones, please?Thu Jun 28 1990 10:5674
O.K., here is an example.  Even if noone else thinks so, I personally 
class this as quite bizarre...

Please understand the circumstances here, this was only the second
time I had ever seen this guy in my life.  He knew nothing more of me
than my first name or where I worked and I knew less of him. 


On the night mentioned in the original note after we got talking about 
the supernatural, he told me about 'spiritual guides' (or 'guardian 
angels' if you prefer) and how he had first become aware of his own.  
We then moved on to discuss spirits (people who had passesd on, were 
on the other side etc...) in general and how he could see them in a
room as clearly as he could see me if that was how they wished it.

For the first time in the conversation I considered the implication as 
it related to me and my everyday existence.  (I guess I'm not 
cosmically tuned in enough to pick these things up or at least I 
wasn't...).  It was getting late and I asked the inevitable question.  
During the course of our conversation had he seen anyone in the room 
with us.  "Just one", he replied.   I asked him where and moved around 
the spot to which he indicated.  As he said "That's about it", I felt 
a shiver run up my spine.  I pursued it further.  Who was it?  He said 
he'd never seen him before.  What did he look like?  He was very very 
tall, quite well proportioned, middle age - maybe fifty'ish, had dark 
hair.  

For reasons to become apparent, I was really interested now. "What
else, what was he wearing?", so he told me, described it to the finest
detail, brown business trousers, an open neck cream shirt with red and
blue check, a sandy coloured cardigan and a pair of business shoes. 
He had pens in the shirt pocket. "And, he was looking at you, almost
as if he were cross". He was only there for about thirty seconds. 

Well, this really did it for me, I was completely wiped out.  That 
person he described was a better description of my father, who died 
nearly five years previously than I could have given.  The clothes 
were the clincher, I can remember that exact same outfit, worn on 
weekends around the house for as many years as I can remember.  I 
could go home today and pick those exact items from my Dad's closet.
Fried my pathetic little mind. (My Dad was 6' 5" and died at 56).

I didn't let on though, this guy didn't even know my Father was dead, 
and he never suggested it was anyone to do with me, except to tell me 
that this guy had looked at me the whole time he was there.  To this 
day, he doesn't know anything about my parents.

It was extremely strange, but there were other times, other places.

Just to finish off, on my way home after midnight, I saw the biggest 
meteor that I have ever seen, it covered a full 80 degrees arc across 
the sky and extremely bright, couldn't believe my luck......


Re .8 (Suzie)

The letters (there weren't a whole lot) were quite straightforward in 
a strange sort of way.  He was very much into the order of things and 
some 'rules' that governed interfering with the order of things (which 
may just be a copout to not get involved) but he was also reluctant to 
go on about it.  I always had to really drag things out of him, he 
just seemed to accept it, it was no big deal.  It seemed like a 
perverse reversal, things that to me seem mind bogglingly fascinating 
were to him quite dull but the opposite was also true. He only ever 
wanted to talk about computers or working, or engines or something.  
It was like talking to someone who had just beamed in from the 15th 
century and was fascinated by all the toys.  (In fact, if he'd told me 
he was five hundred years old it wouldn't have been all that hard to 
swallow...) (no, he didn't...).

....and, man, did he have some great stories.

Ric
1293.10SuspenseCOGITO::CAMACHOFri Jun 29 1990 19:2710
    Your Mr. X sounds intriguing.  Did you know what kind of work
    he was looking for in your area ? Were the contents of his previous 
    letters reasons for not wanting to open this last one ?   The suspense
    would get to me.  I'd be willing to speculate (to make it a little
    dramatic) that your last letter contains - YOUR FUTURE !
    
    I for one, can't wait for you to open it.
    
    Rick->
    
1293.11Well??AKRON::DEPRIESTTue Jul 03 1990 21:146
    WELL ?? THERE HASN'T BEEN A REPLY SINSE JUNE 29TH .... MAYBEE HE
    OPENED IN AND WAS SUCKED INTO ANOTHER DIMENSION.....
    
    			What a World .....What a World
    					(=*8>>
    
1293.12ask the great karnacSCARGO::FAULKNERgetting a clueFri Jul 06 1990 19:438
    
    
    yeah ric, don't keep us in suspenders like this ... it was probably an
    invititation and you missed the party ... tsk tsk ... maybe it was a
    pair of tickets to the boomerang open ... c'mon, open it you big silly.
    
    janice 
    
1293.13SequelWMOIS::RAINVILLEMessiah Wanted, Experienced!Tue Jul 10 1990 04:034
    
    There is nothing in the letter.  He is waiting for you to open it
    so he knows it's time to send you another...mwr