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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1268.0. "Another dream interp. request.." by SALSA::MOELLER (those big words come right out) Fri Jun 01 1990 20:00

    A recent dream :  I had left my home, a big multistory house, because
    of a pernicious/evil boarder that had moved into my basement.  I could not
    evict him without help.  The dream began at night, with my friends and
    I creeping up the alley behind my house.  The plan was to sneak in a
    1st-story window and then evict the basement boarder.  We reached my
    back yard.  I was the first to scale the fence into the yard.
    
    I froze, because staring at me in the moonlight was an enormous white
    bull.  He was snorting and pawing the ground like he was going to
    charge - which he did.  With no time to run, I could only grab his
    horns and wrestle with him.  Apparently I was quite strong, because I
    was able to twist his head and neck sideways and topple him onto his
    side, at which point my friends tied his feet together with rope.
    
    The dream ended at that point.  Does anyone have any interpretations ?
    I would appreciate it.
    
    karl moeller SWS TUO
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1268.1hmmmmCARTUN::MISTOVICHFri Jun 01 1990 20:245
    I usually think of house dreams as referring to myself, with the attic
    referring to my unconscious.  I'm not sure what the basement or yard
    would refer to, though!
    
    Mary
1268.2A backyard Rodeo. ?DNEAST::BERLINGER_MALIFE IN THE ASTRAL PLANEMon Jun 04 1990 16:1613
    
    
                Karl,
                    I'm no expert but it sounds to me as though you feel
    the need to rid yourself of something which no longer suits you 
    (thought pattern, personal habit, lifestyle....). It won't be easy, but
    with proper suport you are ready to "take the bull by the horns" and 
    follow through. Oh, by the way it will be easier than you thought.
    
                                 FWIW;IMHO,
                                   Mark
    
    
1268.3Thank you - what fun!MFGMEM::ROSEWed Jun 06 1990 11:0728
    re: .0
    
    I always wish that dreamers were available to provide instant feed-
    back for the numererous questions that come to mind.  For instance, 
    my first question would be, "Do you live in a multistory house?" 
    Without the benefit of such niceties, however, I'll proceed down the
    track of another *possible* interpretation:
    
    A new worker (boarder) has arrived who shares some of your space -
    perhaps even your terminal or software (database-meant.)  His habits
    are really getting to you - perhaps he leaves food (board) around or
    perhaps his talk, better know as "bull," is particularly obnoxious and
    boring.  You and your buddies decide to get rid of him.  First you're 
    going to get into the terminal (window), and so you all traipse down
    to the office, only to find that he's already there.  Yipes! It's the
    bull all right (white), and he's about to let loose with another crock
    of - aha! you do him one better this time.  You give him a dose of his
    own medicine.  You engage him in conversation until he turns aside, at
    which point your friends take over and keep him busy (tied up.)  
    
    You say in your write-up, "Apparently I was quite strong, because I was
    able to ...topple him...."  I think that you were able to topple him
    because he was weak.  The bull is characterized as "albino - and such
    a creature is deficient in pigment.  (But then I'd have to ask you if
    you knew anybody named Al or Bill who....)
    
    Virginia
    
1268.5MitraREGENT::BROOMHEADDon't panic -- yet.Wed Jun 06 1990 22:1617
    Karl,
    
    I would say that the basement represents your dark inner self, which
    has been annoying you lately by being interested in Things of Which
    You Disapprove.  Probably sex, since your subconscious is in charge
    of dreams.
    
    Your conquest of the white bull is a conquest of these improper urges.
    
    Have you ever read anything about Mithras?  This Persian religion
    is an ascetic religion, accessible only to men, and has as its primary
    symbol the conquest of a white bull.  It looks like you have taken
    the role of an initiate into this religion, with your friends in
    the role of assisting priests.
    
    						Ann B.
    
1268.6SALSA::MOELLERThu Jun 07 1990 00:1222
    Thank you for all the thoughts.  I'm aware of the multistory house as a
    metaphor for the chakras, and well aware that to me the basement is the
    subconscious and possibly a symbol for the lower chakras.
    
>                       <<< Note 1268.3 by MFGMEM::ROSE >>>
>    "Do you live in a multistory house?" 
    
    Not now, but I did as a child, and have had many, many dreams take
    place in that space.  This house did not look like the childhood home
    and surroundings, however.
    
    The white bull is the dominant image for me, and the phrase 'took the
    bull by the horns' jumped out immediately upon awakening.  It's clear 
    that I want to put my house in order, and that the bull represents active 
    opposition to that end, and that to do it all I need the active 
    participation of my support system.
    
    Certainly seems to be an enabling dream, though we didn't actually
    approach the house - it ended with tying up the bull.  Stopping the
    bull.  Interesting phrase.. I need to stop the bull..
    
    thanks again. karl
1268.7a thoughtBTOVT::BEST_GOn my ship the Rocinante...Thu Jun 07 1990 02:578
    
    My first thought is that mentally you are trying to control your
    lower, animal-type drives.  Of course the mind *can* do this, but
    is it what you want?
    
    "The brain is a secondary organ."   - Joseph Campbell
    
    guy