Conference hydra::dejavu

    	From a book i'm reading - WATCH YOUR DREAMS:
    
    Grapes - symbol of the harvest; of a redeeming sacrament
    
    Vineyard - the symbol of germinal life, or expanding life in all
               substances
    
    I have a dreamers dictionary at home and will see what that says
    about grapes and vineyards.
    
    Mark
    

    I read somewhere along the way about interpreting dreams.
    
    It said that symbols are subjective.  What do grapes mean to you?
    
    To me they mean tough roots, entangled deep within the earth etc
    (I removed them from a friends back yard once - - what a job that
    was!!!)
    
    What does yellow mean to you?  
    
    Yellow reminds me of my mom...
    
    These may mean something else to you.  Look deep inside to find
    your meaning...
    
    joe p

    	From my Encyclopedia and Dictionary of Dreams:
    
    Harvesting grapes - A big fortune is ahead
    
    Vineyard - Gains through speculation
    
    	Are you planning any investments?
    
    Yellow material - Will have sorrow
    Color yellow - Important but bad changes in own affairs
    
    	Looks like mixed news according to this book. From what i've
    been reading only you can really interpret your dreams. Others may
    be able to get you headed in the right direction. Hope this helps.
    
    	Mark

    Frances,
    
    I'm not a dream expert; the expert is the person who constructs the
    dream.  When you figure out what the dream is saying, I'm sure that
    you'll find it to be perfect and not at all crazy.
    
    Here is a possible interpretation:  you have heard via the grapevine
    that that there are some great times coming up.  There will be Wash-
    ington's Birthday Sales all over the place.  Prices will drop.  The
    papers will be filled with great deals.  You'll have the pick of the
    crop!  You'll be able to save a bundle or a bunch!
    
    I chose this interpretation because it matches the language of the 
    dream.  There is a line of association between "vineyard" and "Martha's
    Vineyard" and  "Martha" and "Martha Washington" and  "Washington's
    Birthday Sales."  The word "yard" is also associated with "sales" as in
    "yardsales" and with "lot" as in "car-lot."  It's interesting that the
    grapes are yellow.  Grapes are usually blue or red or green.  But
    cherry tomatoes are apt to be yellow, and may provide another pointer
    to George; red grapes - although similar to cherries in color - may
    not have been used because "red" connotes financial loss rather than
    gain.  The color yellow might also have several other associations -
    for example, "lemon," "caution," "sun" - are you by any chance buying
    a "Nissan (sun)"?
    
    There are a lot of other ways that an interpreter could go with this
    dream.  For instance, you emphasize the word "FILLED."  Is there any
    connection with the name "Phil?"  Also, it would be helpful to know
    the name of the friend and the neighbor and any associations that 
    might link the two.  Out of all the friends you have ever had, your
    brain chose to depict one friend in particular - I'm sure there was 
    a reason for it.  Keep thinking....
    
    Virginia
    
    

    Hi Frances,
    
    With a lot of interest I just red this note. Explaining dreams is
    something very personal, something within yourself. That means also
    that you know for yourself what might be the explanation.
    It is said before (.2 and .4) that you mst look for yourself waht
    grapes mean to you, what a grapevine, why did you see that old friend
    again, why did the spoiling bother you and why did you think about
    the buying of the new car.
    Did you have dreams before that meant anything to you ? Or is this
    the first time something like this happens. 
    Did you have any experiences like this before, don't care in real
    life or dream. How did you actually feel about that ?
    
    What I am trying to say that there are a lot of factors that play
    a role in explaining dreams. Sometimes it is very clear what it
    means, sometimes you have to search for it.
    My advice ( really sounds professional) is try to find out for yourself
    what it means, or you think it means, and use then the clues my
    dear collegues gave before.
    
    Mark, does the dictionairy for explaining dreams actually work ?
    This is not an attack but a meant question !
    
    ^O^ John

    
    In my opinion you should go about determining your own meaning
    of the symbols in your dream.  Give the dream some serious scrutiny
    for a few minutes maybe three times a day.  Ask yourself how you
    feel about each element or aspect of the dream and try to figure
    out why.  Then just forget it for a few hours and try again.  Don't
    force it.
    
    The old friend could be pointing to (combined with the vital aspect
    of the grapes) a reintegration of an old part of yourself that you
    have felt a need to get away from/suppress.  What is that old friend
    like in reality?  What general characteristics does that old friend
    personify in your view?  Do you see any of those characteristics
    in yourself?  Have you seen a tendency to be like this person, but
    have striven to avoid that sort of behavior? 
    
    Just some ideas...
    
    guy

    Hi,
    
    Thank you all for your responses...
    
    First of all,  I guess when I think of grapevines I think of being
    "secure" in all aspects, financially, emotionally and Spiritually.
    I guess the feeling is pretty similar to the "hard thick vines".
    You know, very strong.
    
    The color yellow... I don't know. I can't seem to pinpoint any 
    particular feeling on that one.
    
    But get a load of this one...
    
    Virginia...I don't know how you did it, but you hit it on the nose.
    
    I purchased a cherry red Nissan Sentra.  Although my mother "Phyllis"
    tried to persuade me not too... 
                 
    

    re: 7
    
    Frances,
    
    Thanks so much for your reply - it made me feel great!
    
    I'd like to try to answer your title question, but I'll
    have to do it tomorrow night.  
    
    I hope you're enjoying your "dream" car!
    
    Virginia                                               
      

    re: .0,.7
    
    Frances,
    
    In general, I guess these dreams come from interconnected brain cir-
    cuits, some of which are activated and others of which are inhibited
    in response to the feelings and thoughts of the dreamer.  This process
    results in specific representations of information which is customarily
    presented (I don't know how) in pictures.  The pictures - however bi-
    zarre they may appear - are actually telling it like it is.  For exam-
    ple, let's say that you meet Mrs. X.  She's wearing a beautiful diamond
    ring.  Something bothers you about the ring, but you don't know what it
    is and, being busy, you put it out of your mind.  That night you dream 
    about Mrs. X.  Talk about strange - instead of a dress, she's wearing a
    large, green shamrock!  And then and there, with that one picture, your
    mind has told you the truth about the diamond.  It's a sham rock - a
    fake! 
    
    When you interpret a dream you have to listen to and look at the lan-
    you use to describe the dream.  You have to be mentally flexible.  The
    information contained in the dream pictures may or may not coincide
    with the normal boundaries - the beginnings and endings - of your de-  
    scriptive words.  For instance, say you dream about a door. The picture
    of the door may represent the emotion "adore."  And your mind doesn't
    necessarily settle for a one-to-one correspondence between look-alike
    or sound-alike words.  I once dreamed about salary - it was depicted
    as "celery."  Even the spatial orientation of letters may be important.
    Your mind may substitute a "b" for a "p" or an "m" for a "w."
    
    When your interpretations of all the images in a dream fit together
    well - as pieces would in a jigsaw puzzle - then you'll get the pic-
    ture , and you'll understand what the dream is "saying."
    
    Now that you've told me that about "Phyllis," your dream becomes much
    clearer to me.  Look again at the part of the first dream that begins
    "...The vines were FILLED...." and ends with "...to save for myself!"
    Think about your mother's efforts at persuasion.  This is great image-
    ry!
    
    Virginia
    
                                                                           
            

    re: .5  John - I feel that the dream dictionary helps me get started
            interpreting a dream when I have no idea as to the meaning.
            Since the subconscious can only communicate with symbols
            it's difficult to understand at times.
    
    	Mark

     		Maybe you are moving to the Vineyard!!!