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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:	Psychic Phenomena
Notice:	Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:	JARETH::PAINTER

Created:	Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:	Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2143
Total number of notes:	41773

1200.0. "Where's Walt?" by SYOMV::DAVIDSON (MSCP Servant) Sun Jan 14 1990 13:38

    My pet dog, a chow, ran into a threshing machine on our neighbors farm
    about two weeks ago. My wife was *very, very* upset. I had
    read about Walt Disney being frozen until a later society
    could thaw him out, heal him, revive him and let him create
    more great cartoon characters.
    
    I've placed Frosty in a bag in our walk-in freezer and I'd like
    to arrange some sort of cryogenic storage. Does anybody know where
    Walt is being kept? Who is the company that performed the deep-freeze?
    Does anybody know if there is a way to do this at home (safely?)
    
    Our biggest problem to date has been labelling all the *other*
    packages in the meat freezer to avoid making chow of our chow.
    
    Thanks in advance for any leads.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1200.1	part of a process	GVAADG::DONALDSON	the green frog leaps...	`Mon Jan 15 1990 09:15`	23
	Re: .0 Well, assuming this is a serious note - > packages in the meat freezer to avoid making chow of our chow. - here's my opinion: Freezing the dog in this way willl have caused irreparable damage to its brain. The freezing will have been too slow to prevent the creation of tiny ice crystals. There are other problems but lets leave them. Rather I would recommend some kind of 'saying farewell' followed by a period of mourning, followed by finding a new dog to share your lives. Have a funeral pyre, remember good times and bad times shared with your dog, realise that the dog has merged into the substrate of the universe from which arise 'the ten thousand things' (and not a few dogs besides). John D.
1200.2	dog chow...	CSCMA::PERRY		`Mon Jan 15 1990 13:02`	7
	John is right...and assuming you are serious... frezzing the dog like that is much different than the way walt got his...bidding farewell is tough, we get so attached to our animals...but we all have to do it sooner or later....
1200.3	Wrong temerature range	DELNI::BEECHER		`Wed Jan 17 1990 15:59`	7
	Sorry to break it to you like this, but Walt Disney was cremated not frozen. That story started about 4 months or so after his death. To date no human who has been cryogenicaly stored has been revived, and the freezing process used has caused considerable damage to the body tissues. Cryogenic storage for future revival is a great idea, but still needs a lot of work.
1200.4		LAIDBK::FRIEDMAN_MI	Don't be happy; worry.	`Wed Jan 24 1990 03:22`	5
	What I read is that the blood is removed and replaced with ethylene glycol. This chemical will prevent ice crystals from forming when the body enters the deep freeze; however, a new problem is created in that ethylene glycol is a deadly poison.
1200.5	Forget "freeze-drying", too.	ROULET::RUDMAN	Always the Black Knight.	`Mon Feb 19 1990 16:26`	13
	re -.1: Why is that a problem? Can't kill'em but once. A little radiator flush prior to replacing the blood and set the controls to "thaw". But seriously, folks, and given that .0's pet has been zip-locked, we, too, will be facing the death of a pet (read member of the family) in the next 5-10 years and it's gonna be tough. I figure the best way to handle it is similar to the prev. mentioned farewell disposal--to replace the pet ASAP to fill the gap. As with other pets, he won't be forgotten just because he's been "replaced". Don