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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1156.0. "Help a novice?" by SALEM::TAYLOR_J () Fri Oct 20 1989 14:07

    One night I was at a good friends house,semiconcuose{sp?}
    somewhat sleeping,Saturday night live was just ending and
    I could hear the convesation{later verified as accurate}
    so I thought,Iv got to wake up,Id rather sleep at home tonight
    so I kept telling myself "I have to get up"so I forced
    myself to get up,and started to leave.I said goodbye and as I 
    entered the kitchen to leave,I woke up in the livingroom.
    the strange part was that everything seemed so real when
    I Seemed to wake up the 1st time.
    
    could this have been an out of body experience
    vivid dream,deja vu? sure felt strange,is this common,has it ever
    happened to you?AAARRRGGGHH!!  Iv got to know!??!
                       Jon
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1156.1reality gets stranger and strangerDNEAST::CHRISTENSENLKeeper of the MythFri Oct 20 1989 17:2711
    Not exactly the same Jon...
    
    and I have experienced breaks in reality (sans drugs) also.
    The between wakeing-sleep state is sort of a never-never
    land where lots of strange, and I might add, wonderful
    things might happen.  I usually just say to myself "humm,
    that was STRANGE" then go about my business ;^)
    
    FWIW
    
    L.
1156.2The twilight zoneUSAT05::KASPERLife's a gift, learn to accept itFri Oct 20 1989 19:187
Jon,

   I believe there is a name for it, hypnogogic (sp) sleep.  You may be able
   to find some reference material in it in your library.

   Terry
   
1156.3Maybe, maybe notCARTUN::MISTOVICHFri Oct 20 1989 19:464
    On the other hand, some of my most clairvoyant experiences have
    occurred in this state, during afternoon naps!
    
    Mary
1156.4That's happened to me before too.CARTUN::BERGGRENFri Oct 20 1989 20:4341
    Jon,
    
    You're not alone.  That's happened to me a couple of times two.  I've
    also had one out of body experience and the two experiences were
    entirely different.  The kind that you described I was aware that I had
    a body, albeit, in my experience it was very difficult at first to move
    around.
    
    In the OOBE, I did not seem to have a body, but felt more that I was a
    spherical shape of consciousness about the size of a softball I'd say. 
    My mode of travel was different two.  In the OOBE I could hover and
    navigated through the air.  In the experience similar to the one you
    described, I had a what seemed to be physical body that I had to
    operate to get around, much like waking consciousness.
    
    I feel the experience you described is related to being more aware and
    connected to your astral self.  What precipated my experience was also
    the desire (yeah, right) to get out of bed to go to work.  I was in
    that in-between state of consciousness.  Anyway it was very vivid and
    very real.  My clock radio was on and I remember trying to turn the
    volume down because the music seemed to loud.  Although I had placed my
    hand on the dial to turn it down, I could not get the dial to move.
    
    I struggled somewhat to raise myself out of bed, it seemed I couldn't
    really move in a coordinated way.  So I thought to myself, I don't know
    what the hell is going on with me, but I know I *can't* go to work in
    this condition.  I then walked over to the phone and tried to call in
    sick or something... and like the radio, I couldn't make the buttons
    depress on the telephone.  
    
    So I do believe that it was a type of experience of being in my astral
    body.
    
    Oh by the way, unlike you I never woke up from it.
    
    Only kidding!  (smile)  I did soon after the bit with the telephone, and
    everything was perfectly normal and functional.
    
    take care,
    Karen
    
1156.5DEJAVU astral-styleCGVAX2::PAINTEROne small step...Fri Oct 20 1989 20:486
    Re.4 (Kb)
    
    ...no, that was just Karen typing to us from her astral-based
    keyboard...*I've* never *seen* her, have you?  (;^)
    
    Cindy
1156.6Uh oh...CARTUN::BERGGRENSun Oct 22 1989 15:028
    Cindy .5
    
    Very funny... Don't get me confused now. :^)   I *think* I woke up.  
    But you raise a good question.  *Has* anybody seen me?  Well, if not,
    the good news is that at least I'm getting *these* buttons to work.
    
    Karen/Kb
    
1156.7the trick is to wake up - when you're awake :-)GVAADG::DONALDSONthe green frog leaps...Mon Oct 23 1989 07:2013
    Re: .0

    Hi Jon,

    the sensation of waking up while still dreaming is reported
    quite commonly by some dreamers. It seems to be quite close
    to a phenomenon called 'lucid dreaming' where the dreamer
    actually realizes that she is dreaming. Check out the books
    topic in this conference for more dream-related stuff, or
    try 'Creative Dreaming' by Patricia Garfield for a good intro
    plus bibliography.

    John D.
1156.8so thats what it was!SALEM::TAYLOR_JMon Oct 23 1989 14:102
    Thanks for the info...B^}
            Jon
1156.9familiar stuffSMEGIT::BALLAMMon Oct 23 1989 15:3016
Jon,

Your story reminds me of (i hate to admit it) more than one
incident in my early-morning-gotta-go-to-work life when I
was SO deep in sleep and really DIDN'T want to get up, that
I dreamed a very convincing, realistic dream in which I got
up, showered, got dressed, and maybe even had a conversation
with my roommate.  I'd feel all warm and fuzzy about being up
and on time and raring to go (well, maybe not raring...but at
least ready), and then I'd wake up!  Groannnn.....

So, I don't think it's all that unusual to incorporate what's
on your immediate conscious mind (in this case...gotta get up) 
into your dreams.  It can be kind of fun at times.  

Karen
1156.10anyone awake??!!??SASE::SOULARDall of a sudden the three cats meowed...Wed Mar 28 1990 17:2015
    Me too!
    
    I usually dream I am late for work, it's usually 9:30-10:30 a.m.
    according to my clock.  The alarm has not sounded.  I wonder why I
    should bother going in at all.  Should I call?  I usually can't find
    the phone.  I figure if I get up, take a shower, put on my makeup and
    get dressed it will be lunchtime.  Then I will hear a strange noise. 
    It takes me a while to figure out that it is my alarm going off and
    it's really only 6 a.m.  
    
    This hasn't happened to me in a few months, but it is a VERY weird
    feeling, ya know?
    
    -=Doreen=-