Conference hydra::dejavu

    Putting a curse on someone.
    
    Steve

    Re .0:
    
    There are two schools of thought on the Evil Eye:
    
    1) It's a personal ability or characteristic.
    
    2) It's a separate entity/force/influence.
    
    Taking the second case first, some years ago, there was an amusing
    essay by the essayist, Harry Golden, about how his family members
    would go about thwarting the Evil Eye.  Apparently, they all thought
    of it as a malignant being that was just looking for an opportunity
    to bring misfortune to people, but that to do so, it had to have
    a point of entry.  Thus, if someone bragged too much about his or
    her good luck, this gave the Evil Eye an opportunity to do something
    nasty.  In such a case, the counter was to complain about something
    else and be thankful that whatever the lucky thing/event was helped
    balance out the pain.  This supposedly would "fool" the Evil Eye.
    
    Taking the first case second, the Evil Eye as a personal ability
    was taken either as a voluntary or involuntary ability.
    
    As a voluntary ability, it meant using some power to place a curse
    on someone deliberately (and was/is akin to "looking daggers" at
    someone).
    
    As an involuntary ability, it meant that a person's glance would
    cause bad luck periodically (the person, who might otherwise be
    okay, would be considered something of a jinx).  One of the Roman
    Catholic Popes (memory eludes me as to which one) was supposed to
    have this second sort of Evil Eye.
    
    A synonym for the Evil Eye is "maloccio."
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    Hi,
    
           I have always understood that the "evil eye" is when,
    someone looks at someone in "a mistrusting manner" or a 
    "misbelieving manner". when they don't believe what you have
    said , or do not trust what you are doing.  

    The "evil eye" is an old Sicilian curse. The victim will be protected
    by the Italian horn. In Italian "mal occio" translates to evil eye.
    
    Kate 

    Wasn't the "evil eye" associated with Rasputen?
    
    (Or was it Richard Nixon?)
    ;-)
    
    RJC

    I am Italian....Need, I say more.  Since the older members (or what
    is left of them) of my family came from Southern Italy, I have been a 
    witness to the "mal occio" belief all my life.  I know it to be a matter
    of ignorance and superstitution - If you were to ask Cio Pepino (Uncle
    Joe - 83 years old) how he is doing, he always replies, "not too
    good", so as to fool the mal occio - if you might be casting one
    upon him.  I believe that they conside it merely a malicious glance...
    
    Maria Caterina Antonia Teresina Mazzoni
    
            

    > Maria Caterina Antonia Teresina Mazzoni

      I think I saw this on a menu in an Italian restaurant once.

      Terry      *<;')

    > Maria Caterina Antonia Teresina Mazzoni
    
    A beautiful name.  May you live to realize the power and beauty
    of it within your own life and thereby bless us all.
    
    Donald Reinke

    
    Ah, Maria Caterina...you and I know first-hand the effects of the fear
    of differences - Italians are not the only ethnic group to incorporate
    malocchio into their sociocultural beliefs. The Greeks call it 'to
    mati' - the eye - and woe betide anyone who is its victim. 
    
    In Greece, however, there's an extra dimension - a blue-eyed person is
    seen as the potential carrier of ill fortune, and in small villages to
    this day there are those who will make the sign of the cross or avert
    their faces and spit on the ground when the Teutonic tourist hordes
    pass by - and not just because they're despoiling the land!
    
    My blue-eyed mother suffered her share of misery here in the US into
    her teens. Older relatives would even cross themselves or make other
    signs to ward off her potentially harmful glance, and without fail they
    all wore or carried a small blue glass bead that looked very much like
    a little blue eye - to fight fire with fire, as it were.
    
    To carry it one step further, when it became apparent that her daughter
    (I) was left-handed, my mother received a lot of grief from one 
    particular great-aunt, who suggested that I be put to adoption to save
    the family from further evil, and to expiate the sin of my mother's 
    blue eyed curse....
    
    
    Gloria 

    
      This is really interesting.  I'm now wondering if I inevertiantly
    have done this to persons who have crossed me.  Seems like bad luck
    or sickness hit after I've had a run-in with people.  Example of
    it, my cousin and I had a serious argument which ended physically
    shortly after I heard she was in the hospital for a tumor (benign)
    which needed to be removed.  Apparently it wasn't detected at her
    last check up, but now was the size of a grapefruit.  
    
       About the blue eye thing... I have one blue and one brown eye.
    Maybe they cancel each other out?
    

    
    Does anyone knows the meaning of the evil eye as part of
    a crystal ball reading? Does it mean that someone has put
    a curse or bad wish on person A, if the reader saw an evil 
    eye in person A's environment? How does person A, if possible,
    figure out where the curse comes from? Is there anyway to
    counterbalance the evil eye?
    
    
    Eva

    Are you sure the eye you or the person saw is evil? Have the seen
    the 'eye' on the back of the dollar bill. It's the 'all seeing eye'.
    Maybe this was what your ball was talking about.  If it was an all
    seeing eye - then that person is probably very protected.
    
    If person a is psychically sensitive then yes they can tell.
     

    Eva,
    
    pointer...311.56 & 571 (all)...
    
    

    
    re. 12 and .13
    
    The reader asked if everything was ok and then proceeded to
    say that the reason she asked was that she saw an evil eye
    in the ball.
    
    Thanks for the pointer.
    
    Eva