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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1061.0. ""WEIRD DREAMS"" by CPDW::DUNNIGAN () Wed May 31 1989 16:41

    Experts say that we all dream every night, sometimes several dreams in
    one night and yet many of us never remember what we dream.  I rarely
    ever remember what I dream and when I do the dreams are generally awful
    or really weird.
    
    i.e.,  I dreamt one night I was making a huge salad in one of those
    large wooden salad bowls, I was mixing the salad with my bare hands and
    when I took my hands and arms out of the salad they were covered with
    maggots........ugh.  
    
    On several occasions I dreamed of rats which I detest.  Once I had an
    Ali Baba dream and it was in color.  I was being chased through the
    marketplace by all these people, men I think, in Arabian outfits like
    in the tale Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves, when I woke up I was out of
    breath like I had been running and I did remember the chasing part of
    the dream but that was all.
    
    I would like to know how you determine what these dreams mean.  I have
    read Cayce's book on Dreams but I can't say that I got much from it.
    
    Maybe someone could recommend reading material that would make the
    subject clearer to me.
    
    I have enjoyed this file very much.
    
    Pat
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1061.1CSC32::K_OBRIENThu Jun 01 1989 19:1825
    I'm not that sure the experts can really prove we dream all night,
    however, I do believe that you can control what you're dreaming.  You 
    can go anywhere even be invisible.  This takes a little practice, but
    is possible.
    
    Most of the dreams of just excess doo-dah that you get past without
    much hoo-hah.  In regard to your salad and chase dreams, they sound
    horrible.  I'd recommend that before going to sleep you give yourself
    a suggestion such as, I will remember my dreams or I will have only 
    good dreams or I can do anything in a dream.
    
    Sometime back in either OMNI or MIND BODY SPIRIT there was an article 
    on Lucid Dreams.  This article would give you a lot of insight as to 
    how to control your dreams.  In information may not directly fit your
    situation but the core of the information is very helpful.  
    
    I too did not find Casey's book on dreams that great.  Maybe for
    someone who has no info on it, it's good.
    
    If you happen to be caught in a bad dream try changing the dream so you
    are in control such as being at the beach or by a lake, water seems to 
    be a real calmer. 
    
    Sweet dreams,
    
1061.2Dreaming all night.CADSYS::COOPERTopher CooperThu Jun 01 1989 19:5630
    The evidence for "all night" dreaming is roughly as follows:
    
    There is a particular state of sleep known as REM sleep.  During REM
    sleep there is a shift in brain wave patterns, the body becomes more
    still and the eyes can be seen (or detected electronically) to be
    moving rapidly under the eyelids (hence the name REM -- Rapid Eye
    Movement).
    
    When people are awoken while they are in this stage of sleep or
    immediately after, they almost always recall being awakened from a
    dream, although if they are awakened a few minutes later they may not
    remember a dream at all.  The longer the elapsed time between the
    end of REM sleep and being awakened the more likely that no dream will
    be remembered.
    
    Conclusion -- ordinary dreaming occurs during REM sleep which occurs
    several times during the night.  Dreams are rarely remembered unless
    the dreamer awakens fully during or soon after the end of the dream.
    This is most likely to happen in the morning, which is also when the
    REM state lasts longer in a normal sleep cycle.
    
    Dreams do occur at other times but they are of a different character --
    they seem rarely to be more than a single idea, word, emotion or
    image.  Night-terrors, which involve a lot of thrashing around, perhaps
    screaming, and sleep walking are dreams of this type.  Little if
    anything is usually remembered (although there are exceptions) except
    a sense of terror.  These are different from nightmares which are 
    intense, vivid dreams which occur during REM.
    
    					Topher
1061.3Don't take them literallyUSAT05::KASPERIn the eye of a storm hope is bornTue Jun 13 1989 12:3322
RE: .0 (Pat)

    There are many books on dreams as well as many notes and replies in
    this file on the topic.  I've read several books and find that the
    ones that make most sense are the ones that suggest that the dreamer
    is the key to understanding a dream.  Dreams that you describe as
    horrible may not necessarily be so and, in fact, may be telling you
    something important about yourself.  For example, in the dream about
    the salad and the maggots, there is an interesting contrast between
    the two symbols.  Possibly, the salad may have something to do with
    your desire to provide nourishment to yourself or others while the 
    maggots may represent an ugly side of yourself that surfaces when you
    engage in trying to be a nurturer or some such thing.  

    I can suffest a few good books.

          The Dream Game by Ann Faraday
          The Sun and the Shadow by Kenneth Kelzer
          Creative Dreaming by Patricia Garfield
          Memories, Dreams and Reflections by Carl Jung

    Terry    
1061.4How could we ignore this one?REGENT::BROOMHEADI'll pick a white rose with Plantagenet.Tue Jun 13 1989 15:088
    The only book I ever read about dreams is the very fundamental
    _The_Interpretation_of_Dreams_ by Sigmund Freud.  The English
    translation is very readable, (I think he got a better translator
    than Carl Jung did.) and I've read it twice.
    
    If you loved Sherlock Holmes, you'll like Sigmund Freud.
    
    							Ann B.
1061.5confussing dreamsDNEAST::LAGASSE_KIMMon Jun 19 1989 14:1217
    I am very new to this file but I have a question that maybe someone
    might be able to help me figure out..Since i was a little girl i always
    remberd my dreams I would tell the kids on the way to school every
    detail of my dreams sometimes they would last for a half hour or
    longer.As I got older my dreams got more adventures..well this is my
    question about 3 years ago my brother was killed in a motorcycle
    accident..and i have these dreams about him maybe once a week sometimes
    and in these dreams i tell him that he is dead or i try to explain it
    to him or sometimes it is so real that I think that it was my
    imagination that he is dead.And in these dreams he is most of the time
    always imbrassing me and telling me hoe much he misses me.And when I
    tell him that I want other people to see him such as my mother he tells
    me no..,.Well maybe this dosn't mean anything at all it is just so hard
    to put him to rest in my mind when he is so real to me in my dreams all
    the time..
                                   Any replys would be appreiated
                                          kim
1061.6Time to let goUSAT05::KASPERIn the eye of a storm hope is bornMon Jun 19 1989 16:4410
re: .5

	Hi Kim,

	It sounds to me that your subconscious is trying to convince 
	you that he is dead, that it's time for you to let go.  By
	your last statement, I think you are still holding on to him.
	Letting go isn't easy, but it is healthy for both of you.

	Terry
1061.7Maybe it's real?FOOZLE::GOODHUETue Jun 20 1989 16:3712
    Re: 5
    
    Kim,
    
    Your 'dreams' may be real experiences.  If you accept the idea that soul
    continues after the death of the physical body, it makes sense (to me
    anyway) that your brother would be able to visit your dreams.
    
    Have you thought about asking your brother what he does when he's not
    with you or why he continues to visit you each week?
    
    Meredith
1061.8DNEAST::LAGASSE_KIMWed Jun 21 1989 13:087
    Thanks for the replys,It could be that i'm not letting go because I
    loved him so much..But in realality I know that he is dead and won't be
    comming back the way I remember him anyway.And as far as asking him
    eachtime I see him he makes me feel like I imagined that he is dead so
    we never talked about it..But if I can I will try the next time I dream
    of him..THANKS again for your replys
                                                   KIM
1061.9I'd like to believe they visitHICKRY::HOPKINSPeace, Love, & UnderstandingWed Jun 21 1989 13:3611
    Well, maybe I'm not "letting go" of my daughter either but I'd rather
    believe that they are visiting us.  My little girl, Tina, died almost
    four years ago and she 'visits' me from time to time.  I once had
    a dream that I went to the cemetary and she was sitting on the side
    of the road.  I got all excited/puzzled/etc.  Then I realized "oh
    my god, I'd better call the doctors and tell them so she can start
    treatment again (she had Cystic Fibrosis).  She said "why mom? 
    I'm not sick anymore."  I'd rather believe she was visiting me to
    let me know she was o.k. than I can't/won't let go.  It's a much 
    more comforting thought.
     
1061.10SORRY about your lossDNEAST::LAGASSE_KIMThu Jul 06 1989 16:079
    THANKS for sharing with me about your daughter.I'm real sorry but i'm
    glad that you are getting comfort from sharing time with her in your
    dreams.Since my last note i havn't dreamt of my brother i'm not sure if
    it is because I shared with someone what I had been experiancing or if
    I'm just not allowing him to come through...But I do miss not seeing
    him in my dreams. I will keep you posted (I feel the same I would like
    to think that it was him visiting me)
                                                    KIM