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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

1027.0. "not an evil feeling.." by SUBURB::GLOVERP (I'll have a Tanglefoot) Wed Apr 05 1989 16:29

    this is just a note for advise on a problem i am 
    having in my house,and it should be noted that i am neither
    a beliver nor non-believer in any particuler religion,just
    interested in the things contained in this file, after all we
    all have our interests!
    
    i live in a small 2 bed semi in england,and the problem i have
    is this:
    
    the house is all double glazed and very warm , apart from one
    room, my bedroom which is always cold,regardless the weather.
    
    i always get the feeling when im in it that there is someone
    with me in this room,you know the feeling, and yet its not
    a frightening feeling just uncomftable.
    
    non of my pets will stay in it for any lenght of time,
    yet in the other room, no probs.
    
    this feeling of being watched is so strong that i actually
    have to get out of bed and turn the light on!
    
    i dont think its my imagination,i just wondered if any one
    had any advise?
    
    
    phil
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1027.1Maybe something happened there.USAT05::KASPERIn the eye of a storm hope is bornWed Apr 05 1989 16:5210
re: .0  

     No advice since I haven't any personal experiences to draw upon
     (hang on, I'm sure there'll be plenty) but I recall seeing
     a movie some time ago called _The Cold Room_.  It dealt with
     paranormal experiences in a room that was always cold similar to
     the one you describe.  I think it resulted from some events occuring 
     in the room many years before (Nazi stuff).  

     Terry
1027.2off-the-wall hypothesisLESCOM::KALLISAnger's no replacement for reason.Wed Apr 05 1989 16:5912
    Re .0:
    
    Interestingly, the presence of a classical ghost is often accompanied
    by feeling a chill.  It's possible that some of the kinetic (thermal)
    energy of a room is diverted to maintain a psychic pattern of some
    sort.
    
    This would not necessarily violate thermodynamic considerations,
    since we don't know what the energy sink on the other side of the
    interface might be.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
1027.3not understandSUBURB::GLOVERPI'll have a TanglefootThu Apr 06 1989 07:314
    could you elaborate a little on your last sentance
    a bit, that lost me a bit.
    ta
    phil
1027.4Reply to .0NEXUS::MORGANAll Hail Informatia!Thu Apr 06 1989 19:354
    I've experienced this or something like this more than a few times.
    My best guess in my case is that I projected that something into
    time and space. Of course there may have been times that some real
    external entity was present but I kinda' doubt it.
1027.5SHRFAC::ADAMSThu Apr 06 1989 20:3612
    This is similar to an a common experience in my old abode where
    there were cold spots. I initially thought that they were drafts
    but could never find a source. I'd hold candles up to windows, 
    feel under doors etc. but never find any air coming in. There was
    always that accompanying feeling as you noted of being "watched"
    
    My place happened to be haunted and we were treated to a variety
    of other antics which I detailed in a note way back (can't find
    it)  I consulted with a self proclaimed "ghost hunter" and he explained
    these cold spots to be originating as .1 explained...or was that
    .2 ? 
                        -Mark 
1027.6One Way to ProceedWMOIS::REINKES/W Manufacturing TechnologiesFri Apr 07 1989 18:0828
    I assume you're interested in what one would do in such a situation.
    
    0.  Lots of sunlight by day would help, I think.
    
    1.  Don't be reluctant to ask for help, if you feel this is too much
    for you. Just because you're not sure you believe in this stuff doesn't
    mean it doesn't (or does) exist.  As for me, I'd trust my feelings more
    than my mind in this kind of thing. 
    
    2.  If you don't already know how, start learning to center yourself. I
    have found the Lord's Prayer, the 23rd Psalm and St. Francis's prayer
    helpful, when repeated as mantras.  The St. Francis prayer, speaking as
    it does in terms of transmutation of hatred into love, sorrow into joy
    and so on, is particularly useful to me.  As you become centered, you
    could address this feeling or entity directly, asking its needs. If
    it's within your godly power to meet those needs, then so be it. 
    
    3.  Bless this feeling or entity on its way.  It's looking for succor
    in the wrong place for it's and your ultimate welfare. 
    
    4.  Affirm your right to live in peace with your surroundings. 
  
    Love, Joy and Peace,
    
    Donald Reinke  
    
    
    
1027.7NEXUS::GORTMAKERWhatsa Gort?Thu Apr 20 1989 11:059
    Are the walls insulated? I have a friend who bought a home in the
    summer and found out that fall that *none* of the walls had been
    insulated when the (summer)home was built. Maybe the room was added
    on at some point and not insulated. You dident mention that it was
    cold even in the summer which would certainly eliminate the question
    about insulation.
    
    -j