Conference hydra::dejavu

    Isis or this Maryellen person?
    
    Isis was one of the chief deities of the ancient Egyptian pantheon.
    She was wife to Osiris (her actual Khemite name was Ast, as hin
    was Asar).  He was, according to legend, chief ruler of the gods
    until he was killed by Set, his brother (and god of evil).  Using
    a Word of Power that she obtained from Re (the sun god), Isis
    resurrected Osiris.  He was killed a second time by Set, and went
    to preside over the Egyptian land of the dead (afterlife), Tuat.
    By Osiris, Isis had a child, Horus (Heru) [known in the child-form
    as Harpokrates by the Greeks], who contested Set's claim to the
    throne of the Egyptian gods.  There was a long and acrimonoius debate
    on the matter, including a couple of supernatural duels, but finally,
    with Thoth (Dzhuti) as judge, Horus gained rulership.  There is
    an epic poem, _The Sorrows of Isis_, that recounts her travail as
    she searches for the dismembered corpse of her husband, Osiris.
    
    A group of entities from the Pleiades calling themselves "Isis"
    are doubtless playing fast and loose with an ancient religion, as
    filtered through the Greek writers.
    
    I wouldn't take them seriously.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    re: .1
    
       "I wouldn't take them seriously."  SK, Jr.
    
        Come on now, Steve, you wouldn't take *any* channeled entity
    seriously, now would you?!  This is a Cerius question, Pleides
    answer it!
    
    Frederick
    

.2 (Frederick)

Come on now, Frederick, how could Steve (or anyone else) *not* take
seriously a gargling spatula, channeling a 3000 year old entity. 8'P

Jay

    
    
    Seriously folks.....I, too, would like more information on the base
    note.  If anyone has it, please respond!!
             
    Cheryl   
    
    p.s.  I would also be very interested in any "channel_ers" in the
    Massachusetts area, besides Elwood.   Thanx                       

    Re .2 (Fredrick):
    
    >   "I wouldn't take them seriously."  SK, Jr.
     
    To amplify.  If a number of entities from this planet (not to mention
    from a loose multiple star system) _collectively_ called themselves
    the Greek interpretation of the name of a Khemite goddess, then
    I would suspect they were not telling a straight story.  If "they"
    also were supposedly channeling "themselves" through a single person
    (presumably all speaking in unison), "their" credibility drops even
    further.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
    P.S.:     
           >... Come on now, Steve, you wouldn't take *any* channeled entity
           >seriously, now would you?! 
    
    If I could be sure it really _was_ a channeled entity, I might "take
    it seriously"; whether I swallowed what it said without verification
    would be an entirely different matter, though.
    
    

    Re .5  Steve,
    
      
    
    >Re .2 (Fredrick):
    >
    >>   "I wouldn't take them seriously."  SK, Jr.
    > 
    >To amplify.  If a number of entities from this planet (not to mention
    >from a loose multiple star system) _collectively_ called themselves
    >the Greek interpretation of the name of a Khemite goddess, then
    >I would suspect they were not telling a straight story.  If "they"
    >also were supposedly channeling "themselves" through a single person
    >(presumably all speaking in unison), "their" credibility drops even
    >further.
    > 
    >Steve Kallis, Jr.
    >
    >P.S.:     
    >       >... Come on now, Steve, you wouldn't take *any* channeled entity
    >       >seriously, now would you?! 
    > 
    >If I could be sure it really _was_ a channeled entity, I might "take
    >it seriously"; whether I swallowed what it said without verification
    >would be an entirely different matter, though.
    
    
    Aren't we jumping to some conclusions here?  The base note asked
    for people who had information about this woman to please share
    it.  Just because they use the name "Isis", doesn't mean they are
    referring to the Isis we all know and love :-).  It's a free
    universe - they can use any name they want.  As far as a group
    of entities channeling through one medium, this is not an uncommon
    statement to make.  Very often, if the information is coming from
    the "higher" planes of existence, you will find a blending of
    "like minds", so to speak, passing the information on to us.  
    
    And, as one last point, we don't even know what their message is
    yet, so how can we be throwing it away already?  My advice is -
    keep an open mind (and yes, keep your brains in :-b) and question
    what is said - keep what makes sense and feels right and discard
    the rest.
    
    Carole 

In esoteric circles, the Pleides are commonly considered to be *very* 
advanced. To put this statement in context... If you are familiar with 
the idea of planetary and solar Logoi, the Entity/God/Consciousness 
(whatever you want to call it as long as you capitalize the first 
letter :-)...) which is responsible for, and has as its incarnation, 
the planet or system, then the Pleides is considered to be closely 
connected to our solar system (Solar Logos), but not so closely with 
our planet (Planetary Logos), much less individuals therein.

...Now, that puts it into context in a manner which is consistent with 
many who discuss such things...

If that were the case, and this lady really is channeling them, then why 
don't they have something better to do?  If they are not likely to make 
contact with the Planetary Logos, then what would make us so lacking in 
humility as to think that They would contact individuals therein?  

In my mind it is ridiculous to think that her claim is accurate, which 
does not mean that her intentions are not good.  I've never heard of 
her so I don't know.  I've seen people channel and be very clear and 
accurate about who they were channeling.  I've seen people channel and 
think that they were channeling someone other than was the case (there 
is a tendency to want to channel extremely highly evolved beings).  I've 
seen people channel clearly and seemingly accurately who were completely 
unaware of what happened due to the nature of the trance.  I've also 
seen people claim to channel, but all they were doing was trying to give 
credibility to what they wanted to say.

The important thing is how valuable the information is to the individual 
hearing it.  If it is considered valuable and helpful, then it doesn't 
really matter from whence it came.  If it does not seem to be valuable, 
then there is no need to pursue it further.  There is a strong tendency 
for both the channeler and the audience to get caught up in the glamour 
of "name dropping".  If this glamour is released, then all that remains 
is information which may or may not be valuable, depending on the 
perception of the individual.

Jeff

    When I entered the base note, I was looking to see if anybody had
    any personal experience with the channeler, or knew someone who
    did, since she was from this area.(She now lives in Colorado)
       The ariticle I read was from a person who had an session with
    Isis and wrote and ariticle about it. She said that the channeler
    seemed like a very normal down to earth person (much to her surprise)
    She told her she would meditate for about 10 min. then Isis would
    speak. When Isis did speak it was a booming voice with and unfamilar
    accent. She said it was pretty startling. She was greeted with "WE
    ARE ISIS, WE GREET YOU WITH GODS LIGHT AND LOVE". What was said
    was interesting. She didn't get to detailed about what Isis said
    because it was personal to her. She did say that it did hit home
    her and made some very positive changes in her life.
     I'm courious, because if she is for real I'd be interested in seeing
    her myself.
    
     As for the name Isis, I don't believe It means anything more than
    their name. There was no reference to anything more than that.
    
    Also wasn't Seth also a group of entities. I've have also heard
    that this wasn't uncommon.
    

re: .8
>    Also wasn't Seth also a group of entities. I've have also heard
>    that this wasn't uncommon.
    
"I am legion, for we are many" ??

Maybe we're developing a new "Hero With a Thousand Faces" type -- one
that, rather than journeying to the other world and returning with the
talisman of wisdom, starts out there and stays there (dispensing its
wisdom all the while).

I thought someone said that the journey was more important than the
destination though...
							paul

    Re:  .7
    
    Wish I'd said that!
    
    
    Re: .9
    
    Interesting way to look at evolving spiritual for the Age of Aquarius.
    Liz Greene's book, _Relating_, has a chapter on the astrological
    ages.  She makes the point that the energy of the age becomes, in
    one way or another, the spiritual ethos for that Great Month in
    the Great Year.  Aquarius energy relates to unity in diversity,
    the power of the collective, and a kind of higher knowledge (the
    traditional keyword for the sign is: I Know).  I have speculated
    that the increasing interest in channelled information is one
    manifestation (of many ;-) ) of the search for way to express the
    emerging spiritual drive of the upcoming Great Month.
    
    Marcia

    Where in Colorado was see supposed to have moved to?
    
    Dan

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  >  To amplify.  If a number of entities from this planet (not to mention
  >  from a loose multiple star system) _collectively_ called themselves
  >  the Greek interpretation of the name of a Khemite goddess, then
  >  I would suspect they were not telling a straight story.  If "they"
  >  also were supposedly channeling "themselves" through a single person
  >  (presumably all speaking in unison), "their" credibility drops even
  >  further.
                                                 
    I gotta' agree with Steve on this. Sounds like some psychic backwash
    (not in the negative sense, but in the sense of an psycho-social enegry
    backwash) in a particular individuals psyche. 
    
    Personally I think that all channeled material is filtered through the
    reality labryinths of the channeler first before it gets translated
    into humanly spoken words.  With all due respect to our current
    channelers I tend to stay away from channeled material (even though the
    Seth Material unprogrammed years ago). And who knows, maybe Goddess
    will slap me in the face tomorrow with an undenyable experience with
    channels or channeled material. B^) (Cain't never tell about life,
    it being tricky and all that.)

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   > When Isis did speak it was a booming voice with and unfamilar accent.
   > She said it was pretty startling. She was greeted with "WE ARE ISIS, WE
   > GREET YOU WITH GODS LIGHT AND LOVE". 
    
    The mixture of two so very different theo/alogical systems makes
    me suspicious. I smell a "psychic marketing" ploy
    
   > Also wasn't Seth also a group of entities. I've have also heard
   > that this wasn't uncommon.
    
    Seth was a single entity and presented itself as such. It was in Jane's
    later books (esp. "Psychic Politics") that she speculated that Seth was
    a combination of *different*aspects* of her psyche. In this particular
    case Seth was a portion or seperate partition of Jane Roberts'
    consciousness, not communicators from other planets. Even Seth II
    seemed to be a trans-time portion of her consciousness.

    
    
   RE: .12, .13  Mikie
    
    I agree - no medium is a perfectly clear channel.  They are always
    involved to some extent in the communication.
    
    C.

    RE. 11
    
    She's in Steamboat Springs colorado. She heads a group called the
    Explorers, which is involved in learning how to open to your 
    Higher Self and your intuitive abilities, channeling being one 
    result.

    	I went to see her when she was visiting her brother this summer
    and found it to be very interesting! She no longer spoke in a booming
    voice (the "show" as she referred to) because she has progressed.
    She is for real. I went to see her without my logical/analytical
    mind set so that I could get as much as possible out of the session.
    What I am finding out though is that we all have the tools that
    we need for personal growth and sometimes feel that we need some-
    one elses input for direction. I think that if you want to know
    things like - will I get a new car?.....how long will I live......
    etc.....etc.....that you are wasting your time AND her time. My
    opinion - take it or leave it! I felt that it was worth it to talk
    with her (them?). 8^)
    
    	Mark