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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

795.0. "Tarot Card Reading Question" by EXIT26::SAARINEN () Thu Jul 14 1988 20:14

    I have been going through some personal relationship problems for
    the last few weeks with my girlfriend. The fact is we broke up and
    it has caused me alot of heartache and suffering. Oh well...
    
    I was invited by a friend to go see a pyschic who reads
    Tea Leaves and reads cards. Obviously I went to find out if there
    was by chance a way of us getting togther again. So this initial
    reading was scheduled for last Saturday. I had never had my Cards
    read before, so being somewhat skeptical, I went to a different
    Tarot Card reader on the previous Friday night, just to compare
    the two readings to see if there was any similiarities.
    
    Both readings on Friday night and then on Saturday were exactly
    alike. It indicated that we would get back together by the end
    of the summer. The readings were pretty specific in that they
    both described my girlfriend very accurately. Also other more
    personal things that seemed right on target.
    
    This was positive and I thought, hmmmm...something is happening
    here, but I felt if I went to a third different Tarot Card Reader
    and got the same readings about getting back together, that would
    be pretty significant and not so coincendental.
    
    And that is exactly what happened. Now to be brief, I was very positive
    in my attitude last weekend about getting together with my girlfriend.
     
    How much does your own positive attitude that you project effect
    the reading of the cards. Is the reader picking up on your feelings?
     
    Are the possibilities of a Tarot Card Reading determined by your
    mental state that then can be projected into the future to show
    trends for the future at the time of the reading?
    
    Because right now I don't see us getting back together at all.
    
    Comments?
    
    -Arthur
                                                 
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795.1Just my thoughts...PBSVAX::COOPERTopher CooperThu Jul 14 1988 20:4928
    I don't wish to be negative, but I would not put too much trust
    in the Tarot cards' ability to make predictions about the future.
    Although I have seen some quite surprising results along those
    lines, in general they tend to be, in my experience, quite unreliable.
    
    I have found them much more useful as a way of getting in touch
    with the queriant's own present feelings and buried thoughts about
    what is going on.
    
    Even though all three readers got the same "answer" the possibility
    definitely exists that they were simply tapping (either through
    paranormal means or through subconscious reading by the Tarot reader
    of your subconscious body language) into your unconscious wishes/hopes
    for the future, rather than the future itself.
    
    I would say that you should decide whether its worthwhile to work
    towards getting back together.  That will depend on what the
    consequences of getting back together (is it worth it if you get
    back together and continually rip each other up emotionally?),
    and what the liklihood of you succeeding in getting you back together
    for a given level of effort (is it worth the effort if you must
    give up all semblence of a normal life for the next year to have
    one chance in 100 of getting back together?)
    
    In my experience, the Tarot can be very useful in examining your
    own feelings and thoughts about these central issues.
    
    					Topher
795.2It's just not in the cardsWHEEL::BISHOPFri Jul 15 1988 15:5410
    Re: 1
    
    Sadly, I have to agree which may explain why I tend to get
    confirmations of "what I want to happen" whenever I have gotten
    readings, but, in retrospect, not what really happens.  I thought
    at first that I was just not read-able, but perhaps I am just
    supposed to work on the issue of TRUST and KNOW that the best 
    for all concerned is what will happen.  
    
    Dawna
795.3Don't take them literally!BTO::BEST_GFri Jul 15 1988 16:1215
    
    
    Having been to a couple of readers myself I would say that your
    emotional state means everything to how the reading comes out. 
    The readers I saw basically told me what I wanted to know which
    was what I already thought to begin with.  They sort of brought my
    underlying feelings out where I could see them for what they were,
    and deal with them.  This is useful, but any predictions that they
    make probably aren't going to happen.  It's what you think about
    what they say is going to happen that is important.  Analyze your
    fellings about the predictions and learn about yourself.
    
    
    Guy
    
795.4fellings...nothing more than fellings...BTO::BEST_GFri Jul 15 1988 16:152
    :-)
    
795.5The future is mutableBSS::VANFLEETFri Jul 15 1988 16:3529
    Re: .1
    
    Again, I have to agree.  I have been reading cards for about
    3 years and have found that I can influence the reading if I
    want it to say a particular thing.  Did you get these readers
    on tape?  Did they specifically say that you would be getting
    back together with this person in so many words?  This may
    indeed be true, but it could be for an hour, a night, etc.
    Also you may be getting back together in order to change and 
    resolve the relationship.  Just how specific were these readers?
    
    Something else you might consider...when I do readings for
    people I always let them know that they still have free
    choice no matter what the reading may say.  The future is
    mutable.  Nothing is written in stone.  Reading the future,
    no matter what technique is used, is sort of like taking a
    psychic urine test.  You can get an idea of what the circum-
    stances are right now and what the future might look like 
    based on that, but who knows what might happen 5 minutes
    from now?
    
    I hate to be so negative because you're obviously hurting.
    I just hope that no matter what happens you can stay
    centered and O.K. with yourself.  After all no one else
    can GIVE you happiness or serenity.  That's something
    that you have to find internally.
    
    Peace and Love,
    Nanci
795.6Thanks for the OpinionsEXIT26::SAARINENFri Jul 15 1988 20:3832
    Thanks for all the replies, I value the opinions and will have
    to sort them all out.
    
    The three readers that I saw all mentioned that I would be getting
    back togther with my ex-girlfriend and stated that they all saw
    marriage in the cards with her. I couldn't tell you the specific
    card that mentioned that. One also mentioned a child in the picture.
    
    I was pretty fascinated by the description they gave of my girlfriend,
    in that what was read was that she was tall, with short dark hair
    and light colored eyes. She liked to wear alot of black clothing,was
    very intelligent, worked in an office and was somewhat catty. All
    this was right on.
    
    Probably with the state of mind that I feel like I have been in
    I have been looking for a cure, a something to reestablish the 
    balance in my life that I so recently lost. I want to believe
    that this method of seeing into the future isn't so bogus and
    that I am not just getting read by my body language and physical
    presence. 
    
    But in actuall *Real* life I can't see the hope of getting back
    together at the present.
           
    So I'll just get Happy and go for it!
    
    Thanks again,
    
    -Arthur