Conference hydra::dejavu

They're found mostly in Hawaii.  They are caused from wearing a ley in the
sun, leaving the portion of your body behind the ley, lighter than the
tanned portion (kind of like bikini lines). *<;').

Terry

    
    	Well, the ley lines are straight lines that connect 
    together sites that have been sacred from ancient times.
    In Great Britian, it seems that many of the major cathedrals
    (and stonehenge) were built on the intersection of the ley lines.   
    Similar lines are found in countries other than England, but in
    England they have been the most investigated.
    The great pyramid and *most* ancient sites in the old and in the
    new world, are also said to be aligned to ley lines.
    
    There have been various claims and beliefs about ley lines;
    
    	1) Dowsers are said to be able to detect ley lines.
    
    	2) UFOs are said to often travel above the ley lines.
    
    	3) Actual lines may have been laid out by ancient surveyors,
    	such that these lines later became used as main roads.   Some
    	sites were chosen for obvious reasons, such as a panoramic view.
    
    	4) Some people theorize that there is a planetary "energy grid"
    	that flows along the ley lines.   If there is an actual energy
    	here, apparently no one really knows what it is...
    
    	5) Cattle are said to spontaneously chose ley lines and
        intersections as birthing (calving?) spots.

    	That's most of the information I have on them.   I have never
    found much more than this in the various books I've read.   You
    should be able to find maps of the ley lines in England, as there
    have been several books published on the topic.   If you are
    interested, I can enter in the names of a few books after I get
    home....
    
					Alan.

    I know that, early in WPI's history (Worcester Polytechnic Institute,
    Worcester, MA), Robert Goddard (the same guy who made the first
    rockets) built a magnetic laboratory on the campus.  It was built
    entirely out of stone and wood and masonry - no metal at all.  This
    was in the 1880's, I believe.  One of the main things he was studying
    there was the lines of energy that seemed to flow around the earth.
    His experiments were going fairly well until the first trolley lines
    were put into the Worcester area.  They threw off his measurement
    so much that he was forced to give up his experiments there (I am
    not sure whether or not he continued them elsewhere).  The small
    magnetics lab was given to the senior honor society (Skull), and
    was henceforth known as Skull Tomb.
    
    -Jody
    

    
    	If you follow stone rows through the woods here in New England,
    they often lead to a "sacred spot" of sorts. Some believe that these
    stone rows were built along ley lines, as they seem to serve no
    purpose other than to connect up points on the land. That they may
    serve as conduits of energy, well, no one knows. I've heard it
    discussed that the phenonema of "spontaneous human combustion" has been
    known to occur on a ley line.
    
    	Joe Jas
    

    Recently spent a weekend at a B&B in Dublin, NH.  The proprietor,
    who dowses as a hobby, told me that ley lines run through Mount
    Monadnock, and that the summit is said to be a powerful energy point.
    
    Ley lines or no, the area is very beautiful, and it's not surprising
    the history Dublin has had of attracting the literary/artistic com-
    munity.
    
    MLG

    Therefore, local farmers with cattle-birthing problems should drive
    the beastie to the top of the mountain.   The cost of the gas will
    be lower than the Vet bill.
    
    But seriously, it seems logical these lines have been mapped and
    put on a globe-map.  Anything significant about the lines?  Do
    all the upright stones align to Ley lines?  Does anyone attempt
    to use the energy at the summit?
    
    						Don

RE: .3 (Jody)
    
    The 1880s seems a trifle early to have been built by Goddard since
    he was born in 1882 (just checked).
    
    I haven't heard about this lab before, but I'm willing to bet that
    he was studying the geomagnetic field, whose existence is completely
    uncontroversial (the evidence for it can be found in every toy
    compass) and whose connection, if any, to ley lines is indirect.
    
RE: The rest of it
    
    The mainstream opinion of ley lines is that a few, relatively short
    distant alignments of ancient British and Northern European sites
    actually exist.  These are probably due to alignment along roads
    connecting two of the sites and, in some cases, to astronomical
    alignments.
    
    The "hard evidence" for the existence of large numbers of long distance
    alignments seems to depend on questionable data and bad statistics.
    Much of the evidence for physical effects of ley lines similarly
    suffers.
    
    This does not mean, of course, that ley lines don't exist -- lack
    of evidence is not to be equated with evidence of lack -- but it
    does mean that there is no compelling reason (except, for some,
    philosophical or experiential; i.e., personal) to believe that they
    exist.
    
    					Topher

    Re .7 (and others)
    
    As anyone who has done a moderate amount of walking in the British Isles
    should be able to tell you ( providing they keep their eyes open ! ),
    there can be no doubt that ley lines *do* exist. The only controversy is
    regarding their purpose. 
    
    Major leys ( containing dozens of aligned sites ) can be easily traced
    between the major ancient sites ( Stonehenge, Glastonbury, Avebury etc )
    simply using good maps. But if you start walking them, you'll find many,
    many more 'features' of the landscape, such as dew ponds, barrows,
    single stones, etc that are too minor to appear on the maps.
       
    
    >> does mean that there is no compelling reason (except, for some,
    >> philosophical or experiential; i.e., personal) to believe that they
    >> exist.
    
    ...except for the fact that you can see them and walk along them...(;^)
    
    
    Mainstream 'historical' opinion regards them as trade routes. This
    theory doesn't really fit the facts ; it fails to explain why the lines
    go straight across deep plunging valleys or boggy marshes ( they do !
    I've seen them ! ) instead of taking short but easier detours ( I tend
    to take the detours, not being a mountain goat ), and, more importantly,
    why the major ley intersections do *not*, as a rule, correlate with
    major population centres. 

    As an aside, I believe they can be found in significant numbers in China
    where they are known as 'Dragon's tails'.
    
    Frankly, I haven't heard a complete theory yet ( and I've never been
    buzzed by UFOs either  (8^)  ), 
    
    Walk 'em, Dave.   
                                   
    P.S. I can dig out some references if anyone's interested...

    Ok I'll bite what does a ley line look like? I've been to england
    but dont remember seeing any lines painted across any meadows or bogs
    8^)
    
    -j                                                                   
    

.9  (Dave)

I'd be interested in any references you can dig out.

Jay

    
    
    re .4
    
    Pardon me, but what is a stone row?  Is it the same as a stone wall?
    
    
    re: all
    
    This is going better than I expected.  I wonder if the dowsers
    convention in Danville, Vermont has any seminars on finding or using
    these lines.  Maybe I'll finally make it this fall.
    
    p.s. Let's hear those book titles!
    
    
    Guy
    

    OK, here's a few references ( details courtesy of Mum - being near a
    bookcase when I phoned ! )... 
    

    "The Old Straight Track" by Alfred Watkins.
    
    Originally published in 1925, now published ( not sure if it's in
    print at the moment ) by ABACUS. 
    

    "A guide to Glastonburys temple of the stars" by Catherine Maltwood,
    don't know the publisher but originally published around the same
    time as the above.
    
    "Quicksilver Heritage" by Paul Screeton, ABACUS.
    
    "Secret Country" and "Mysterious Britain" by Janet and Colin Board,
    PALADIN.
    
    "View over Atlantis", John Michel, ABACUS.
    
    
    Beware ! There are some real 'tabloid' theories ; the best books are
    those that stick to describing the lines.

    If these are tricky to track down Stateside I could be persuaded
    to dig around next time I'm in London ( July )...

    Happy hunting, Dave.

    
    Re.9....I believe...
    
    The reference to China and the dragons is a good one. 
    
    While reading "Noble House" by James Clavell, I came across this
    practice whereby all landowners in China (in this case it was Hong 
    Kong) consult what is called a 'feng shui' (I believe this is the 
    name of the person) before embarking on the construction of a building
    just to ensure that the placement is not on certain parts of the
    dragon as it would bring bad luck.  Clavell went so far at to consult
    a 'feng shui' before going ahead with the filming of the movie based
    on the novel above.
    
    Can anyone elaborate on this practice?  This is all I know about
    it.
    
    Cindy

    re .14:  Regarding 'feng-shui'

    I have created topic #775 to provide an introduction to the Chinese
    art of feng-shui.  It has no relation to ley-lines, as far as I know,
    other than that they both seem to impart a scheme of order/balance/energy
    to the lay of the land which is not normally recognized by us westerners.
    
    					Todd