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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

753.0. "Dark and New Moons?" by NEXUS::MORGAN (Human Reality Engineering, Inc.) Tue May 31 1988 21:10

    What is the difference between Dark of the Moon and New Moon?
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753.1different folks have different yolksMARKER::KALLISDon't confuse `want' and `need.'Wed Jun 01 1988 12:056
    Re .0 (Mikie):
    
    Depends upon the tradition.  In some, the terms are synonymous.
    In others, it means "that time of night when there is no moonlight."
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
753.2Consensus decision making wins out again...NEXUS::MORGANHuman Reality Engineering, Inc.Thu Jun 02 1988 16:367
    Thanx, great help Steve! B^)
    
    We've been debating this for about two weeks now. We decided that
    the dark of the moon was either when you had your hands over your
    eyes and couldn't see the moon or it was daytime. B^)
         
    (When in doubt, make up something funny.)
753.3traditions, as they say, vary. Who _are_ these people?MARKER::KALLISDon't confuse `want' and `need.'Thu Jun 02 1988 17:5119
    Re .2 (Mikie?):
    
    No, there's a specific difference.  According to the tradition that
    "dark of the moon" means the time the moon's not visible (that is,
    it's below the horizon after nightfall), particularly when it's
    in a waning phase, the time _before_ the moon's visible is dedicated
    to Hecate (patroness of certain areas of esoteric knowledge).  Thus,
    "the dark of the moon" has a very different meaning than "new moon,"
    where the crescent is visible immediately after sunset.
    
    >... the dark of the moon was either when you had your hands over your
    >eyes and couldn't see the moon or it was daytime. B^)
     
    Well, I can't speak for the hands-over-the-eyes approach, but the
    moon is perfectly visible in the daytime, if you know where to look
    and it's not really new or full (or, for that matter, that it's
    cloudy). 
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
753.4new moon + meteor showers...LEZAH::BOBBITTHey, pal, your days are lettered!Thu Aug 04 1988 12:5512
(from the Paganism mailing list at MIT, forwarded via a friend)
    
For anybody planning a New Moon ritual around August 12th, you may be
interested to know that August 12th is also the peak of the Perseid
meteor shower.
 
I don't have all the facts straight, but I think they are:  Peak is
50/hour; best time is 2-3am; duration is about +/- 2 days, meaning 2
days before and after are 15/hour and 1 day before and after is 30/hour;
the peak hour is probably 2-3am of August 12th (Thursday "night").

    
753.5Drawing down the Perseids...FNYHUB::PELLATTStrong hand on a silken neck !Thu Aug 04 1988 13:517
    Re .-1
    
    Interesting, thank you.
    
    One question : What time will the moon be visible ?
    
    Thanks, Dave.
753.6New Moon VisibilityNATASH::BUTCHARTFri Aug 05 1988 20:3112
    Re .-1
    
    It won't.  The time of the "new" moon is actually the day when it's
    path and the sun's are in exactly the same place as visible from
    earth.  Thus, the moon is not visible, unless it is so precisely
    in front of the sun as to cause a solar eclipse.
    
    The pretty crescent we call the new moon is visible around sunset
    1 - 3 days after it is truly "new".
    
    Marcia