Conference hydra::dejavu

    Re .0 (Joe Jas):
    
    Well, if your ex-roommate wasn't evidencing anything in the paranormal
    realm, a simple "fumigatioon" should be all that's needed.  Otherwise,
    best to consult a specialist.
    
    Some Oriental traditions use noise (occasionally fireworks) to drive
    out evil/negativity (generally in the form of spirits).  In the
    United States, especially in an apartment or urban/suburban house,
    this might not be practical.
    
    My advice: put a burner in each room, leaving the doors open but
    the windows closed.  Burn one of the following incenses in each
    burner, lighting the most centrally located and working outwards
    in a clockwise direction:
    
    Sandalwood
    Frankincense
    Vervain
    Solomon's Seal
    Rosemary
    Nettle 
    
    For industrial-strength, use Asafoetida, but be warned: you'd better
    wear an air mask.                                   
    
    Make sure all clkosets, cupboards, hampers, cabinets, and the like
    are open.
    
    Let the rooms fill with odor, then open a _single_ exit point.
    
    There should not be a "whiff" of your roommate left.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    
    Try burning Cinnamon Incense.  It's suppose to keep an area free of 
    earth-bounds.  I and several of my friends have used it and the
    areas that we had used it in really felt "cleaner".
    
    Linda

    RE: .0 (Joe Jas)
    
    > I suppose I'll start with my bedroom door, which he punched a hole
    through with his fist - <
    
    
    Hmmmmm.... I once had a room mate who did the same thing!   He also
    punched two in my wall.
    
    I don't think he liked me.
    
    John M.
     

    re: -.1
      
         "I don't think he liked me."
    
    
          Sounds pretty hard to believe, huh?
    
    
    Frederick
    

    re .3
>        Hmmmmm.... I once had a room mate who did the same thing!   He also
>    punched two in my wall.
    
>    I don't think he liked me.
    
>    John M.
 
    But John, its easy for you to clear a room of negativity. You just
    have to step out of it.
    
    ;^)
    Thom

    Perhaps, you might consider the "cleansing" process from a personal
    "internal" standpoint. If the impression's left are of an extremely
    negative nature then you should consider the possibility of your
    perceiving them as such, psychologically? It would be important to
    seek to understand the why, and the wherefore of it and then with paint
    brush in hand colorize the ambiance with a different hue. 
    
    I have heard discussed the possibilty that house's, castle's, apartment's
    and other dwellings retain to some degree the "aura" of incidents
    that have occurred within their walls? 
                              
    Many religions have ritual's or ceremonies they perform to "purify"
    dwellings. While in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War I saw
    Buddhist monks many time's perform such ceremonies to insure a tranquil
    ambiance in homes that were about to be occupied anew.
    
    I just though I'd mention the psychological factor, since incense and
    the like won't necessarily help you deal with the incidents you
    yourself must do psychologically. Talking about it is the first step in
    getting things into perspective internally. 
    
    - Richard
    

    
    	Thank you. Yeah, "the "Aura" of incidence that occured within
    their walls" - THATS what I wish to get rid of. I think I'm doing
    OK psychologically, and I am talking to *everybody* about it...
    
    	I did the *right* thing by requiring him to leave. People *must*
    be responsible for their actions, 100% of the time; any cheap excuse
    like "Oh, I was all f*cked up and didnt know..." is bullsh*t!!!
    I dont particularly give a good God damn about people's personal
    issues anymore (Whaaaa! I didnt have a...) - I have *enough* of
    my own load_to_carry, thank you... AS SUCH, the consequences are:
    Youuuuuuuuuuuuure OUT!!!         
    
    	A glimpse: "YOU GAVE ME *THIS* (a birthday present) TO TRY AND
    BRIBE ME INTO LETTING YOU KEEP THE TURTLE? (huh?) >!SMASH!< it goes 
    into a thousand pieces 18" above my head...which was resting on
    my pillow!
    
    	The turtle, a 30 year old box terrapin, driven from his swamp
    home by the_bulldozers, was rescued by me from the pavement_mosters,
    who would have surely just run it over and killed it. He was one 
    of the most beautiful animals, with his yellow skin and beak, yellow 
    spotted shell (on black) and his big brown eyes. He's somewhere
    out on the Quabbin resevour watershed now, hopefully headed *away* from
    any human inhabitants of the area. It sure got a good dose_example of
    what *they're* like, when my ex-roomate held it in one hand, shouting
    at the top of his lungs and pounding holes in my bedroom door with
    his fist. Sure, I would have *liked* to keep 'im (her?) for a while,
    but the thing was just so freaked out I could easily tell all *it*
    wanted was to go free. Hopefully now, it'll be able to live out it's
    natural life span in a somewhat protected space and, in Peace.
    
    Me too!
    
    	Joe Jas 

    Re .7 (Joe Jas):
    
    >	Thank you. Yeah, "the "Aura" of incidence that occured within
    >their walls" - THATS what I wish to get rid of. I think I'm doing
    >OK psychologically, and I am talking to *everybody* about it...
     
    The incenses, smudges, and the like can help cleanse the region
    of the "aura" residuum you've asked of.  There are other ways, but
    that's an easy and safe one.
    
    >	The turtle, a 30 year old box terrapin, driven from his swamp
    >home by the_bulldozers, was rescued by me from the pavement_mosters,
    >who would have surely just run it over and killed it. He was one 
    >of the most beautiful animals, with his yellow skin and beak, yellow 
    >spotted shell (on black) and his big brown eyes.
     
    I have a very soft spot in my heart for chelonians, too.  I grew
    up with turtles, and find them nice.  However, it's worth mentioning
    that the Box Terrapin is an endangered species and is illegal to
    keep as a pet.
    
    I'm glad it's in the Quabbin.  I hope it lives long, prospers, and
    propogates.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

RE: .5 (Thom)
    
    Now the question is -- how do we clear a *conference* of negativity.
    
    				;^)
    				Topher

    re: 1
    
    A teacher of natural healing who deals directly with accutely ill
    patients prescribes that the actual furniture and as much of the
    room where ill health has resided be cleaned with rosemary and water.
    
    I know that the herb rosemary has been suggested as an incense but
    along with this I did want to mention this method.  Rosemary essence
    comes in liquid form in many health food stores, or you could make
    up your own by boiling pure water with rosemary and then straining
    it.  This teacher suggests putting it in a basin and literally 
    washing down walls, floors, furniture.  The concept is not so much
    cutting the negativity or ill health of others, but REMINDING ourselves
    of our strengths and who we are. (Rosemary - for remembrance)
    
    I offer this advise because it has worked for me.  It has helped
    me NOT TO GET HOOKED IN TO OTHER PEOPLE'S PICTURES of dis-ease in
    all forms.  Certainly this person's angers seem to fall within this
    category.
    
    
    Dawna

    You can also try this--
    
    Place a clear quartz cluster in each room, preferably in a window.
    The quartz cluster has a cleansing ability that works especially
    well to clear the area of "bad vibes" :-).
    
    Another thing that clears personal negativity is to put apple cider
    vinegar into a warm bath (yes, *really*) and soak in it for a while.
    
    Best of luck, whatever you decide!
    
    Jane

    You could wash the walls with sea salt. However, it may wreck the
    wallpaper & paint job.