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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

749.0. "Psychic bummer" by SSVAX1::SPENCER (Be Kind To Animals,Hug A Hockey Player) Tue May 24 1988 19:14

    
    I am worried about something that I need some kind of reassurance
    on.  I would like to know what you think about this.  
    
    I went to a psychic down in Hingham a couple of years ago.  Her
    name was Gloria James (I have heard that she past away a few months
    ago.)  Anyway, she told me something that worries me and I really
    dont know how to handle it now.  The worst thing she told me was
    that I was going to be married 3 times and that my first fiance
    is going to die tradgically before the wedding day.  She also said
    that in two years (which is now) someone is going to ask me to marry
    them and I"m going to have to make a choice between marriage and
    my career because I cant do both.  Well, it is two years this year
    and I'm involved with someone that wants to marry me.  He hasnt
    formally asked but he told me he wants to spend his life with me.
    After hearing was Gloria told me, it makes me wary of marrying someone
    at all.  It kind of sounds foolish to be afraid of it but I do believe
    that people can read futures, and whether she was "authentic" or
    not I'll never know for sure.  
    
    How should I handle this?
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
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749.1CSC32::WOLBACHTue May 24 1988 19:2414
    
    
    A psychic can only tell you your 'probable' or 'possible' future.
    Events which may happen in the future, provided you follow a par-
    ticular path (which you yourself have mapped out)...but you always
    have the option of detouring and taking another path (again, which
    you have previously mapped out).  In summary, a psychic can tell
    you what is in your future PROVIDED YOU CONTINUE ON YOUR PRESENT
    PATH.  This is not cast in stone and you DO have the free will to
    change the outcome.  
    
    Deborah
    
    
749.220911::GROSSETue May 24 1988 19:398
    I hope you won't let something like that dictate your life. Besides
    I think it's awful that any "reliable" psychic would tell someone
    something like that. You have the freedom to choose your own
    path; look for happiness and you'll find it.
    
    Franny
    
749.3SSVAX1::SPENCERBe Kind To Animals,Hug A Hockey PlayerTue May 24 1988 19:445
    
    re .2
    
    I dont let what she said dictate my life.  That one statement she
    made is the only one that concerns me and that I think about.  
749.4The choice is ultimately yours.SCOPE::PAINTERHeaven is a place on EarthTue May 24 1988 19:4814
    
    It's a wise person who rules the stars, and a fool who's ruled by
    them.
    
    I believe this applies not only to astrology, but to just about
    everything.  In "Love, Medicine and Miracles", there are several
    cases where a doctor would come along and say to a patient, "You
    only have X amount of time to live."  Sure enough, the patient dies
    right on schedule.  Then there are those patients who say, "No,
    I'm *NOT* going to die in X amount of time - I want to live!", and
    miracles have been known to happen such as tumors shrinking and 
    going away without any traditional medical or scientific explanation.
    
    Cindy
749.5It's your choiceUSAT05::KASPERLife is like a beanstalk, isn't it...Tue May 24 1988 19:4910
	It's your decision.  Use the info to help you determine which
	way is right for you.  It's hard to accept, but what we do,
	where we go is all determined by nobody but ourselves.  Psychics
	don't make our choices, we do.  

	Be careful of creating a 'self-fullfilling prophecy'.  If you
	don't like what you hear, change it then don't worry about it...

	Terry

749.6GENRAL::DANIELWe are the otters of the UniverseTue May 24 1988 20:2811
Try another reading, recommended to you by someone whom you know you can trust. 
It might be just the ticket to overcoming your worries about the present 
situation.

And I wholeheartedly agree that reputable psychics should not make such 
predictions.  I learned from reading, exactly what Deb Wolbach said; readings 
can point to the path which you are on at this moment, and everything you do 
between now and then effects the outcome.

Good luck
Meredith
749.7DECWET::MITCHELLThe Cosmic AnchovyWed May 25 1988 00:0415
    RE: .0
    
    Your psychic was a shmuck.  I know someone in a situation very similar
    to yours, except the psychic told her that one of her two kids would
    die.  She has one kid now, and I suspect is wary of having another
    for fear of reaching the magic number.  Sure, you can treat what
    the psychic says as bunk (which it probably is anyway) but it is
    hard to forget something unpleasant regardless of who says it.
    
    Look, did the psychic predict her own death?  If not, then why should
    you believe what she has to say about someone you know?
           
    Throw a can of worms on her grave and get on with your romance.
    
    John M.                                              
749.8YOU create the reality; spurn the prophecy!WRO8A::GUEST_TMPHOME, in spite of my ego!Wed May 25 1988 01:107
    re: .0
      
       Read .1 several times until you memorize it!
    
    
    Frederick
    
749.9USACSB::OPERATOR_CBWed May 25 1988 04:596
    
    RE: .0
    
    	a reader ect. can only be as good as you want him/her to be.
    
    craig
749.10have you considered a career in diplomacy?ULTRA::LARUtransitive nightfall of diamondsWed May 25 1988 13:0110
749.11WILLEE::FRETTSdoing my Gemini north node...Wed May 25 1988 13:0410
    
    
    RE: .0
    
    This psychic was totally irresponsible with your friend.  Who
    knows how many more people she has affected in this way.
    
    Peace be with your friend.
    
    Carole
749.12Can you get HBO on your crystal ball?MTWAIN::KLAESKnow FutureWed May 25 1988 13:4011
    	A fortune teller once told my great-grandmother that she would
    have just two children, a boy and girl, and no more; and amazingly
    enough, she *did* have a boy and girl - and then nine more children
    after that!
    
    	Amazing how some people pretend to predict what has not yet
    happened, nor is the future "fixed" along one certain path, especially
    by those who are intelligent enough to make their own destinies.
    
    	Larry
    
749.13GJ not too accurate about future!SHRBIZ::WAINELindaWed May 25 1988 13:4112
    
    Look at it this way...  If he makes you happy and you make him happy,
    GO FOR IT!!!  I know several people who had gone to Gloria James.
    From what I know about her, I think she is totally irresponsible.
    Also, she seemed to be very accurate about past and present things,
    but her track record for the future isn't very good at all.
    
    It is so rare to find someone that you love that also loves you.
    Nuture the relationship!  If it makes the two of you happy, GO FOR
    IT!!!......
    
    Linda
749.14Love NOW!SCOPE::PAINTERHeaven is a place on EarthWed May 25 1988 14:1918
    
    If what the psychic said really does come true, then I would still
    stand by this statement:
    
    	"It is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved
    	 at all."
    
    If I were given a choice of spending 1 hour with a truly loving
    person even knowing that one of us were to die at the end of that
    one hour, I would not for a moment hesitate to do so.
    
    If you live each moment to the fullest without fearing 'something
    in the future', then you will have no regrets about how you spent
    your life.
                      
    The only thing to fear is fear itself.  
    
    Cindy
749.15yes -- go for it!MARKER::KALLISDon't confuse `want' and `need.'Wed May 25 1988 14:2213
    Re .0:
    
    I concur with the above responses.  Indeed, if he asks you to marry
    him, and you want to marry him, if the "prediction" bothers you, elope!
    Get _past_ the "just-before-marriage" jitters.  You'll discover
    that you _do_ have Free Will.
    
    Not onlyy will you have taught yourself a valuable lesson, but you'll
    be happy, rto boot.
    
    Best luck.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
749.16More on GJMORGAN::SLAVINWed May 25 1988 14:2510
    I have heard about instances of GJ giving people similar
    readings. For example, a friend of mine who is a psychic, told
    me of a woman who came to her for a reading. The woman was extremely
    upset because GJ told her that her son would drown. Laurie did a
    reading and told her "keep your child away from water." Last I heard,
    the boy was alive and well.
           
    Don't worry. Be happy. :)
    Lois
    
749.17a different view?BTO::BEST_GFri May 27 1988 18:1324
    
    
    I can't understand why any psychic would feel the need to say that.
    Especially if they wanted to stay in business very long!
    I went to a psychic reader once and he told me exactly what was
    on my mind.  There were very few things that I couldn't explain.
    It was very therapeutic though, since I had not dealt with a few
    things in my life that I needed to and he thrust all those things
    in my face(figuratively) so that I had to deal with them or become
    a blubbering mass of jell-o.  But telling someone about a death
    really wouldn't be useful in most (99.9%) cases.
    
    If you look at the sessions in the sense that they tell you something
    about yourself and not about actual events then they are good. 
    Otherwise they can be very destructive to attitudes.  Try asking
    yourself questions about how you feel about what they talk about.
    What are your reactions?  What can you learn about yourself from
    your reactions?  It's really a much brighter outlook when seen in
    this way.  
    
    Do not fear - and do what you know is right.
    
    Guy
    
749.18Negative is not PositiveMARKER::AREGOFri Jun 17 1988 15:1419
    just tuned in, however; I have heard of this psychic in Hingham.
    the feedback I've received from folks is that her readings are 
    always negative and upsetting.  (She must have serious problems
    herself)  
    
    Some advice:  Only go to a psychic via referral from reliable, stable
    people.  It can be fun and enlightening if you are stuggling with
    questions, etc.  And, as one of the other responses indicated, you
    are the one with the free will, and should use it!  
    
    Over the years I have dabbled with many readings, astrology, etc.
    I've had great readings and terrible events forecasted.  If the
    reader was a respectable, caring psychic, and the reading seemed
    troublesome, I would change course immediately and looked within.
    Sometimes I'd go back several months later to find a whole different
    and more positive forecast.  This proves to me anyway, that one
    does rule his/her own future.  
    
    Stay positive!
749.19well?did you say yes?SUBWAY::FORSYTHLAFALOTWed Oct 24 1990 17:352
    so did .0 get married??