Conference hydra::dejavu

    Relax...  What you (and your husband) experienced was a fairly unusual
    (but not at all unheard of) form of what is a quite common a pretty
    well understood phenomenon: night terrors.  These have been described
    and discussed elsewhere in the conference both under that modern
    term and under variations of one common traditional term "The Hag
    in the Night".  (I'm currently collecting references for you in
    a separate process, but thought you sounded upset enough to want
    an answer without waiting for it.  I'll post another reply with
    the note numbers when it finished).  Basically most dreaming occurs
    in a state of sleep called "REM" sleep (for Rapid Eye Movement sleep,
    which describes how it can be recognized when looking at someone
    in that state -- the eyes can be seen to be moving around rapidly
    under the eye-lids).  During REM sleep the body's voluntary movements
    are "turned off" so that the body won't respond to the brains
    directions to the "dream body".
    
    Occasionally, however, a distinct dream occurs during non-REM sleep
    and then the person may talk, walk, thrash, grab, even hit while
    still asleep.  This is common in small children, and for a few adults,
    but is only occasional for most adults -- usually brought on by
    stress (is your husband undergoing unusual stress just now?).  They
    are simply acting out the dream with their physical body.
    
    But what about the strange language?
    
    Well generally talking during such non-REM dreams (they are only
    called night terrors when there is a strong unpleasent emotional
    content to them -- as is frequently the case, since they are a
    reaction to stress) is in the person's current primary language.
    But...
    
    There is a phenomena produced in various altered states of
    consciousness called "xenoglosia" (which just means "foreign tongue").
    What this seems to be is that the brains speech centers can be stimulated
    randomly to produce a stream of nonesense speech -- gibberish. 
    This can occur from a state of religious ecstacy, from epilepsy,
    from some drugs, from hypnosis, or -- as almost certainly in this case
    -- during a dream.  Some people who experience this in a state of
    religious ecstacy (when it is called "speaking in tongues") believe
    that God is inspiring them to sing His praises in the language of
    the Angels, but careful linguistic analysis shows that the "language
    of the Angels" has characteristics (for example, how frequent certain
    sounds occur) which are specific to the person's native language.
    The language centers in the brain have gotten into the "habit" of
    following those patterns even when producing giberish.
    
    There is a related phenomenon in which a real, known foreign language
    is spoken by the person.  Careful investigation almost always shows
    that although they didn't *consciously* learn the language their
    subconscious had plenty of opportunity to learn it -- for example,
    a neighbor when they were growing up spoke it extensively, or (in
    an example I read about recently) a person apparently spoke French
    but his vocabulary was limited to phrases and words he could have
    picked up from WWI and WWII comics and movies which he was fond
    of.
    
    Once in a great while a case of this latter form comes up where
    no such source can be found or seems likely.  As to these cases
    I don't know, but it is very unlikely that this has any relevance
    to your husband (nor if it does is it particularly ominous).  He
    probably had a character in his dream (which he probably doesn't
    remember) who spoke a "foreign" language so he subconsciously made one
    up.
       
    A single, or a few, night terrors doesn't mean a whole lot.  If
    he gets a lot of them, you might consider seeing a neurologist just
    to be on the safe side.
    
    					Topher

Thanks so much for the responses.  I tried to respond through VAXMAIL but it 
sent it back to me.

Glad to hear that what happened is not so unusual.  It was the weirdest thing 
that I have ever had happen to me. 

I would love to know what he was saying but I guess I will never know now.

Thanks again,

Lorie

    
     That sort of thing, happened to my nephew one night when he was
    sleeping on the couch. I was in my bed room reading, and I heard
    my mother trying to wake-up my nephew, to make him get in his own
    bed: when he got up, he was still sleeping, but, he started speaking
    in tounges, in a language we don't understand. So, to make sure
    that it wasn't just me thinking that way: the next day I said to
    my mother "What was Dennis talking about when you tried to wake
    him up?", then she said "I don't know what kind of language he was
    speaking, it sound like spanish or something", so, that just let's
    me know that it wasn't just me that heard that forgien language.
    
    LORENZO
    

    Unless you or your mother know Spanish, there is no evidence that
    it was Spanish, it could have just sounded that way.
    
    Many people will speak gibberish when awakened, at least occasionally.
    Topher can probably explain this much better than I can.
    
    Elizabeth

    My prayer language, which I still have BTW, sounds like Spanish
    too. I tried it on a person who speaks fluent Spanish and has traveled
    all through South America. He told me it was gibberish. B^)
    
    My opinion is that this language is not a language but a series
    of audiograms that the emotional side can use to enter altered states
    of consciousness.
    
    I use these audiograms not only for trancework but for ecstatics.
    

Re: 744.6 MORGAN < Reply to the last few, (Spanish Audiograms) >

>    My opinion is that this language is not a language but a series
>    of audiograms that the emotional side can use to enter altered states
>    of consciousness.
    
Perhaps you could explain a little about using these
'audiograms'? It sounds interesting. Can anyone
produce them? And then use them?

Would anybody care to enter some 'audiogram' transcriptions?

John D (who usually speaks gibberish anyway  :-)  )

(Now, what I really want to know is where do the Gibber people live?
They could give us a good translation probably).

    Re:5
    
       I didn't say anything about being "Sure" about that language
    being spanish: I stated that my mother said that it "sound" like
    spanish; the language that he was speaking could be anything or
    any language.
    
    Re:6
    
       Your "Prayer" language, also known as speaking in tounges, is
    done by the spirit; some "sound" like latin, then there are some
    that "sound" like spanish, but it could be another. Paul stated
    in the book of 1 corinthians 13:1 "Though I speak with the tongues
    of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding
    brass, or tinkling cymbal." So that lets me know that when you pray
    through your spirit, your not always going to speak tongues of men,
    that's why there has to be an interpreter within the church. There's
    an unknown tongues that spoken in the church, for the edification
    of the body of church.
    
    Lorenzo
    

    
    
         Very interesting! for the last few years I've noticed that
    I too seem to have developed a language of tones that just "comes"
    to me at certain times--specifically, some kinds of excitement or
    sudden stress or just spontaneously. It's very strange, though.
    I feel reticent to talk about it here. It's like they're my own
    private sounds or something. I even one time started to try to 
    transcribe it into a written form. My theory is that there is some
    sort of fundamental level of tones that are intrinsic to each indi-
    vidual, and even those tones that are common to all human beings.
    Almost like a root root language possibly the same way that all
    languages first began. Definitely very interesting. 
    
         How many others out there have had similar experiences?
    
    
    Roy

    What I ment here was something akin the ubiqutious 'Om'. It seems
    that in some cases, such as Lorenzo's prayer language, my audiograms,
    such techniques seem to release ecstatic energies out of the body.
    
    I originally got my technique from the Charismatic Christian churches.
    Now that I think about it the technique could be thought of as a
    form of possession (which I think is entirely misunderstood by both
    sides).
    
    If one follows the "plant, animal, rational, will" model of psychic
    reality they could see the whole process as ment to release the
    animal without endangering anyone.
    
    So my theory goes that speaking in tongues is a technique that allows
    forms of ecstatic animal energy to be released, which in turn helps
    open blockages in our psychic makeup, thus bringing both the animal
    and rational and soul levels closer together.
                                        
    I've used tongues in pagan rituals, during drumming and dancing.
    It works well and yet I still haven't plumed the depths of it yet.
    (Maybe I'm a little afraid of what I'll find down there. B^)

    In my years of doing just that, tongues and interpretation, I finally
    came to the conclusion that the interpretation was just prophecy
    unrelated to the tongues.
    
    Perhaps Paul's admonitions for an interpretation was to forstall
    the possible event that the believers would get outta' hand without
    some control. I can see how that would readily happen.