Conference hydra::dejavu

re; < Note 719.0 by SCOPE::PAINTER >

                                 -< Bad Days >-

I had a few of those extremely recently, myself.  I was VAXmailing with someone 
the other day who said "Maybe we should call all of these heated discussions 
going on in NOTES (and not just in DEJAVU, but in a *lot* of files!) the 
Disharmonic Convergence!"
      
>    Friends to the end.....in good times and bad.  

This *is* the bottom-line thing to remember, isn't it, after all?  In an 
earlier note, I moved what Todd D. had said, about the end of April being a 
heated time.  Seems to me that people are flying off the handle, taking the 
words of others in ways that were not intended by the original author.  There 
seems to be a withdrawl into the Self, to the point of seeing things only from 
that viewpoint, not stepping outside long enough to understand that words have 
more than one meaning.  I accused my sweetie the other day of taking everything 
I was saying to the worst extent, possible.  Maybe we just need to give each 
other a little credit, and look for that inward space where nothing outside can 
be perceived as a hurt, or attempt to hurt.

And remember to think about love for a minute before we hack off a heated 
reply...love is the common denominator, over all.

Love and Light
Meredith

    RE: .0
    
    Blow it out your ear, Cindy!
    
    
    :-)  :-)
    
    
    John M.
    

    Re: 'The Disharmonic Convergance' - I love it!
    
    Bad days...I had some of them recently.  A half dozen SPRs on my desk
    just sitting there like little brown merds.  Or someone trying to play
    bumper pool with my auto (hey fella, if this were a pool table, that
    would have been a 'Tilt' fer sur). 

    I didn't look to see what the transits had to say; they just kinda
    stare at me, anyway!  :-)

    Meredith mentioned that love is the common denominator.  I think this
    is so, and what helps me during these times is to remember the love
    from friends, my higher self, and the various spirit entities of all
    sorts that provide support during my current incarnation.  Things don't
    seem nearly so bad after that.  :-) 
    
    
    Kak

    Hey! What is it with youse guys??
    
    I'm having a great time. Busy too. Maybe you all woke up on the
    wrong side of your natal charts... B^) 
                    
    Just remember one thing...
    
    Your responsible for what you create... Nah, nah, na, nah, nah... 
    
    }B^) Wickedly yours...

    Then there's always,
    
    "Always look on the bright side of life, da dum, da dum, etc"
    
    Couldn't resist.
    
    I *really* understand Cindy, cause its been a beach of a month,
    and I am feeling a lot better so won't bore anybody.
    
    Chin up, it can only get better,
    
    ...dale

    
    	I swear the green lights of life see me coming...Slam! (OK,
    not that direction) Slam! (OK, not that direction) Slam! (Ok...
    not *that* direction)...I think I'll just go home and listen to
    my Grateful Dead CD.
    
    	Joe Jas  	"Look into any eyes - you can see clear thru..."

    I have a theory based entirely on using myself as the one and only
    subject of study.  Atmospheric pressure systems seem to affect my
    mood much more than I would have guessed.  I don't think it is just
    the idea that "cloudy days are the pits" and "sunny days are heaven".
    
    At first I tried to get some correlation with the weather.  I figured
    maybe low atmospheric pressure (storms) on the outside of the body
    relative to internal blood pressure created a pressure in the brain
    (pressure difference = slightly enlarged blood vessels = headache
    = crabbiness) that made me edgy.  One thing I found was headaches 
    and being bitchy were obviously correlated and I felt maybe the 
    headaches were due to the aforementioned pressure differences since 
    I seemed to have headaches in concert with storms.
    
    Well, after some study I have modified the above idea a little.
    I think it is not the low pressure so much as the change in pressure.
    I seem to get headaches, edgy and generally crabby as the pressure
    (both high and low systems, but lows approaching are worse) system 
    approaches.  The (my) body seems to equalize the pressure after a 
    short period of time (8 hrs maybe?).  In the case of the last couple 
    days, Thursday was the storm (a good one), I would have expected 
    extreme crankiness the evening before or so as the pressure was 
    dropping.
    
    Personal observations of personal feelings seem to correlate closely
    with the idea above.  Each person's internal physiology is a little
    different so your mileage may vary.  All I know is spring is one
    of the toughest seasons for me because the storms roll through every
    other day or so.  It takes a strength of will and concentration
    to forge ahead at times.
    
    So watch the weather forecast. (just don't watch Dick(brain) Albert)
    It may predict your mood for the coming day.  I know when I see
    a big low pressure system coming I expect "beaucoup de bitchiness".
    
    Stan (who_is_in_MA_for_those_of_you_in_sunny_areas)

    re: .7 
    
    I got so involved in my theory that I forgot to make my point. 
    Basically, the idea is that when you feel like the bottom of a 
    stablehand's shoe the world looks bleaker and you feel stepped on.
    Those 6 SPR's or whatever are just more than you can handle even
    though on a good day you would just laugh them off.
    
    My perception of the world and my "luck" depend on my mood as well
    as my "luck".
    
    Stan
    

    a lot of people I know outside of work are also having troubled
    times these days.  
    
    A friend of mind chalks it up to what he calls a flux in the universe.
    This is some sort of force that tends to bring many problems to a head,
    and causes a lot of change and growth (eventually) - but with these
    often comes pain.  People feel stress and don't know why - people
    snap at others, do things they normally wouldn't do.  It seems a
    pattern that strikes once or twice a year.
    
    -Jody
    

    This whole past month has been the most eventful, intense period
    that I've had for a long, long time.  I have wondered why all these
    remarkable people are suddenly showing up in my life, when for months,
    things have been quite boring.  Be careful what you ask for, you
    may get it.
    
    I've noticed an increase in my own energy level that may have something
    to do with the Spring (or perhaps the sun and moon both being in
    my native sign of Aries within the past month).  I usually do 15
    minutes of high impact aerobics every day, and I'm comfortably beat
    afterwords...lately, I've been going 20 and 25 minutes with no problem,
    and having to stop because I've run out of time instead of because
    I'm tired.
    
    What seems to come out of bad times, ultimately, is that you get
    stronger, more able to deal with adversity.  The strongest people
    I know, are the ones that have been through some terrible times,
    and come out with an attitude of defiance and positive strength.
    Maybe some of us are needing to deal with certain things and
    situations, are avoiding doing this, and consequently, are being
    *forced* to deal with them.  "It ain't what you want, it's what
    you need".
    
    Doug 

    Doug,
    
    I know what you mean.  I have (for my standards) been through a
    very rough time over the past month.  Mind you we still have no
    hot water, but I have walked through some amazing fears that I have
    nurtured over the past few years.  I have built them up to be the
    size of King Kong.  
    
    I was very much looked after and was able to deal with each seperately,
    instead of being rained all at once.  Now, I feel wonderful, so
    free, so able to achieve what I want.  There is a course I have wanted
    to do, but for reasons known only to the powers that be I was unable
    to do it on the 26th April (it lasted evenings, early mornings over
    four days, then intense over a full weekend), because I had to
    obviously work through what I thought were humungous fears, but
    in hindsight are really only very superficial.  The course is on
    again in October.  The person comes out twice a year to conduct
    it.  
    
    Amazingly I have a deposit.  *I AM* doing it.
    
    But, the problem is one of the people that I meet with each week
    has become very negative.  She is very talented, extremely so in
    the tarot.  But ever since another friend and myself have gone past
    the point of depending on her totally, she has knocked all things
    we are into, possibly (my interpretation) out of fear.  
    
    I am in the middle of a very rough programme I am running at work,
    so I feel a trifle pressured, but was feeling great last night.
    After the negative friend arrived last night, she wanted to know
    all about this course that a third person had completed.  Some of
    the things she wanted to keep to herself, but mentioned others,
    like fire walking, absailing alone.  
    
    Long winded, I know, but I was drained last night.  I became unsure
    of myself after being so confident an hour earlier.   I guess the next
    hardie for me will be to walk away from this person and let her choose
    the path she takes from here.  I have to do this without feeling
    guilty, and that is hard for me.  The negativity is the hardest to
    take, because the more I am with her, the more I allow myself to take
    on negativity.  
    
    From reading the replies from a lot of you, there seems to be a
    lot of gloom around.  Is there a reason for this, or for a lot of
    us to be going through turmoil?
    
    ...dale
    
    

    Well, Dale, you touched upon a few things I'd like to offer my
    perspective on.
    
    I'm not quite sure what you meant when you mentioned relying on this
    talented person you know, but if I interpreted correctly, you may
    have meant that you were essentially interacting with this person
    in such a way that she (I think you said it was "she") was guiding
    you toward certain goals or knowledge, rather than you yourself
    being guided by your own inner intuition and hunger for knowing.
    Often, when someone begins to discover many of the wonderful things
    we discuss in this conference, they have in their life, someone who is 
    talented or has relevant knowledge that pertains to what they're
    looking for.  It's great if you're lucky enough to have this, however,
    there comes a point when you find that you have learned enough from
    this person, to strike out on your own and begin to seek out things
    that your own "inner self" seems to need to go through and know.
    At this point you may find yourself more independent of this "teacher",
    even to the point where you will in turn become a teacher for others
    who are starting down "the path".  (You may enjoy reading the book
    "Pilgrim's Progress"...no, it's not about pilgrims like Miles
    Standish, rather, spiritual pilgrims..an old book with a timeless
    message)...It's unfortunate if this person doesn't realize that you
    are apparently at that point...'cuz we should know that ultimately
    people's destinies are in their own hands. We shouldn't selfishly try
    to make them dependent on us for their spiritual unfoldment; on the 
    contrary, the idea is to give them something like an initial push on a 
    swing like we give children to get them going, and teach them enough
    so that they can keep up the momentum and hopefully increase it, 
    independent from us.  
    
    As far as negativity and gloom go, last night I got a grade from
    a college course that wasn't as high as I had expected, and it capped
    off a day that consisted of bumping into things, tripping, knocking
    my head on shelves, catching every red light, etc. etc.  I was in
    a real mood last night, and this morning it wasn't much better 'till
    I started driving to work. I've got about a 1/2 an hour drive, and
    had plenty of time this morning not to have to play chariot race
    jockeying for a place in the passing lane.  As I drove along, I
    noticed the deep, almost vibrating green that the grass is becoming;
    the fresh spring air going through my hair, the leaves just barely
    showing that light shade of green they have when they first come
    out, flowers blooming everywhere...I decided hey, if I was living
    a simple life, like I think we were originally meant to live, all
    this garbage I clog up my mind with wouldn't mean anything, and
    this incredibly beautiful world would be all I was thinking about.
    So, gradually I found myself a free being on a beautiful paradise
    planet, instead of another restless, harried face fighting for a
    lane on the freeway.  Life is good, man, sometimes we just have
    to stop and get a truer perspective on it.  
    
    "Live for today" author unknown to me
    
    When I think of all the worries
    That people seem to find
    And how they're in a hurry to complicate their minds
    By chasing after money, and dreams that can't come true
    I'm glad that we are different, we've better things to do
    Let others plan their futures, I'm busy loving you
    
    1234! Sha la la la la la live for today
    And don't worry about tomorrow, hey
    
    We were never meant to worry the way that people do
    
    (all I can remember now)
    
    Doug 
    
    (I think the Amish have something on us...wonder how happy they
    are).

    
    Doug,
    
    Who was the author of that book "Pilgrim's Progress"?
    
    Also, I believe the song was sung by the Grassroots.
    
    Cindy

    Thanks Doug,
    
    Funnily enough the three of us went to the markets on Saturday,
    anticipating a great day.  Unfortunately the person (she will be
    L) was nearly an hour late.  By the end of the afternoon I was feeling
    a little agro.  When I dropped her off and the third person (S)
    and went to a little new age book shop I had allowed myself to take
    on so much negativity.  
    
    It was then that we both realised we would have to walk away.  Luckily
    enough L is going away for about three weeks.  
    
    I too shook off the feeling, but thought that I couldn't keep doing
    this every week.  I guess the understanding that I cannot keep giving
    her the answers, she has to discover for herself.  Also, she is
    terrified of either of us moving ahead of her.  It has happened
    to other friends of hers, and they too have walked away.  Sad, but
    perhaps that is her evolution at the moment!!!
    
    Doug, the book that shook me out of it was Stuart Wilde's The Force.
    Thankyou, I will check into your suggestion.
    
    Sometimes I wonder if I listen hard enough to my higher self.  I
    was wondering if I should do a cleansing diet after my last trip
    to Melbourne this week (this was late on Saturday).  Saturday night
    and Sunday morning I was hit with the worst liver pains.  Believe
    me I got the message.  Lemon juice all Sunday.
    
    Knowing how stubborn I am maybe my HS knew the only way to kick
    start me was to hit me where it hurts!!!
    
    Thanks,
    
    ...dale
    

    Cindy, the name "John Bunyan" sticks in my mind as the author of
    Pilgrim's Progress.  I do recall that the book was written while
    the author was in prison.
    
    If John Bunyan is incorrect, someone please correct me; I'm not
    positive that that's the correct name. 
    
    Doug
    
    

>    Who was the author of that book "Pilgrim's Progress"?

The name Thackeray comes to mind.

-Joe

    
    
    The author of "A Pilgrim's Progress" was John Bunyan.
    
    - Gloria Bates
    

    Ain't gonna talk, phone or write to *anyone* else today !
    
    Today I've misunderstood, been misunderstood, received a blitz of
    the most intense ( positively and negatively ) and bizarre mails
    I've ever read, had letters and phone calls from distant friends
    and been repeatedly cut off trying to phone home.
    
    AND, I've received an Astronomical phone bill !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGaaaaaaagggggggggggGGGGGGGGGGGggHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
    
    
    
    
    Thanks for sharing, I feel better now, Dave.

	Astronomical phone bill???  Does that mean your paying for
	calls to other galaxies???  If so, I can understand why it
	upset you so! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) 

        It's always darkest just before the lights go out...

	Terry

    Re: Astronomical phone bill
    
    And since it'll take *years* for a message to get to another galaxy,
    you'll have paid your bill before the call even completes!
    ;-)
    
    Kak

    HAHA ! Galaxies ? Nah, twice the distance...
    
    
    Re .19  "It's always darkest just before the lights go out"
    
    ??? Cheery thought no. 101 ??????    (8^)
    
    
    Dave.
    
    P.S. Thanks (D) - you made my day...