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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

672.0. "Astrology Watch" by ISTG::DOLLIVER (Todd O. Dolliver) Thu Mar 17 1988 17:17

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672.1New Moon in PiscesISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverThu Mar 17 1988 17:25122
672.2660CSCMA::SNOWThu Mar 17 1988 17:444
    todd..this is great..but you should of put this in file 660..
    only because many people look at that file...
    
    Andrea
672.3NATAL (660) vs. MUNDANE (672) AstrologyISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverFri Mar 18 1988 19:4841
 re: .2;

  I am fully aware that topic 660 is active, and has much information about
 astrology.  However, topic 660 has exclusively dealt with NATAL astrology
 (ie. effects of planetary positions at the time of birth), and has no replies
 dealing with the transiting planetary positions occurring _right now_.
 The study of these current astrological events represents a separate branch
 of astrology (called MUNDANE astrology).

  In fact, thus far topic 660 is preoccupied with only a small part of NATAL
 astrology: sun-sign astrology.  While this serves as an appropriate intro
 to the characteristics of each sign, I feel it is somewhat simplistic and can
 turn a lot of people off from pursuing a more refined understanding.  I hoped
 that this new topic would give people a chance to see astrology in action for
 themselves, every day.  For me, the daily observations make astrology much
 more _alive_ and _dynamic_ than the view provided by even a complete Natal
 chart interpretation.  Of course, the most accurate perspective is obtained
 only when you map the current zodiacal events onto your own natal chart!

  I considered this natal/mundane distinction to be a significant enough
 difference to justify a separate topic allowing this day-to-day information
 to be accessed directly, rather than having to scan through the over 80
 replies in 660.
						Todd


  To CSCMA::SNOW: I realize that you started topic 660, and therefore may feel
 that it is the only astrology topic worth continuing.  However, I reviewed the
 other relevant topics (204, 269, 539, 591, 624, and 660) and determined that
 this was indeed something _different_.  Did you also do that when you started
 topic 660 instead of posting a response to topic 269?


 PS.  If anyone noticed a flicker of flame in my final comment it
      could be related to the Moon being in Aries today (Cardinal Fire).
      (BTW: in trine with my natal Moon in Leo (Fixed Fire))

      When the Moon is in Aries, you don't even need a match to make a ~flame~!

      Do you wonder where the Moon will be tomorrow?
      Check the current astrology watch calendar (672.1) and find out :-).
672.4But I don't find it MundaneBSS::BLAZEKDancing with My SelfFri Mar 18 1988 23:1913
    re: .3 (Todd)
    
    	In my opinion you're fully justified in beginning a new topic.
    	As you probably already know, things aren't overly strict here, 
    	and new topics have been started for less!  Relax, you've got 
    	support!  =8*)
    
    >>	Do you wonder where the Moon will be tomorrow?

	Er, in the sky?

	Carla (who_readily_admits_to_being_astrologically_ignorant)

672.5To Know Is to UnderstandEVE::GERTZBuTRflysRFreeSun Mar 20 1988 13:207
    You have my full support as well, Todd!  Springtime brings out the
    best in me!!  Why?  I am (note, I am...:-) trined out with most
    of the planets in FIRE signs, SUN in Aries, MOON in Leo, LEO Rising
    and more. I rarely need a match...;-)
    
    Charlene
    
672.6CSCMA::SNOWMon Mar 21 1988 15:044
    Todd...your right this is very different..sorry i hope you didn't
    take it personal....What do you on Geminis?
    
    Andrea
672.7CSCMA::SNOWFri Mar 25 1988 11:408
    Todd...
    
    Yesterday my fiance had a sudden change of mood and today I decided
    to look at your astrology watch chart and find out whether or not
    the moon was in Cancer and the moon was and still is..That explains
    alot...
    
    Andrea
672.8party people want to knowULTRA::LARUlet's get metaphysicalFri Mar 25 1988 13:594
    The moon is in Leo Monday night...  does that mean it's a good time
    to party?????
    
    	breathless bruce
672.9romantic people know...;-)KRYPTN::GERTZBuTRflysRFreeFri Mar 25 1988 15:416
  	Dear breathless,
    
    	The Moon in LEO means a great night for romance....
    
    
672.10CSCMA::SNOWTue Mar 29 1988 13:293
    The moon is entering Virgo...what does that mean?
    
    Andrea
672.11DECWET::MITCHELLLet's call 'em sea monkeys!Tue Mar 29 1988 18:3810
    RE: .10 (Andrea)
    
    > The moon is entering Virgo...what does that mean? <
    
    
    
    It means she'll have to change her name.
    
    
    John M.
672.12CSCMA::SNOWTue Mar 29 1988 19:592
    Ha Ha ...that was too funny.
    
672.13New Moon in AriesISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverFri Apr 15 1988 17:43156
672.14Beyond coincidenceGLDOA::WETHERINGTONWed Apr 27 1988 14:3224
    Re: .11
    
    Good one, John.
    
    Todd, this is really wild...I don't take much stock in the daily
    horoscopes as they are rather imprecise, but around the end of March
    Sydney Omarr's daily horoscope for Aries said something like "major
    changes in store-Pisces involved", and the forecast for Pisces said
    the same thing, only "Aries involved". 
    
    Being an Aries (with my moon in Pisces and Aquarius rising) you
    can imagine my shock when someone came into my life *that very day*
    who is a Pisces...this person ended up staying with me for a week
    and believe me, it was intense.  Doesn't water put out fire, Todd?
    If I didn't believe it before I do now.
    
    Now that M. is gone, I met someone two weeks ago (today) who, come to find
    out, has a birthday of March 29.  This person had just broken up
    a 3-year relationship with someone who's birthday was April 1. And,
    my birthday is March 30.  I'm now seeing this person regularly.
    Rather odd how our three birthdays fall on three consecutive days.
    Might this mean something (other than fiery relationships)?
                                                             
    Doug
672.15where's May's watch?COOKIE::CABANYAWed May 04 1988 15:561
    
672.16FSLENG::JOLLIMOREFor the greatest good... Wed May 04 1988 16:383
<---
The astrology watch is based on a moonth (vs a month), from new moon to
new moon. The moon will be new on the 15th.
672.17Next Moonthly Watch due May 15thISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverWed May 04 1988 17:1362
 re .15;

  I appreciate your interest in the Astrology Watch .. it makes me feel that
 it is worthwhile for me to prepare this info.  However, the Astrology Watch
 Calendar comes in 'moonthly' (per moon cycle) not monthly installments.

  I deemed the 'moonthly' cycle to be most appropriate for these aspects, and
 I also hoped to raise the general awareness of Moon cycle and sign transitions
 since these are often dynamic and noticable astrological events.  I also
 considered sun-sign transition installments (still not on the month boundary),
 yet since I have an aversion to exclusively sun-sign astrological
 interpretations I chose the Moon.

  The current 'moonthly' Astrology Watch calendar covers the period from new
 moon in Aries on April 16th to new moon in Taurus on May 15th, and resides
 in reply .13 of this topic.

  Thank you for your support :-).


 re .14; Doug,

  The information that you have provided is interesting.  However ...
 I have no idea why the daily sun-sign horoscope indicated these attachments,
 or why they rang so true for you.  The data you have provided is insufficient
 for me to determine a proper comparative chart between you and either one of
 your acquaintances.  Since I do not have an automatic chart comparison program
 (yet), the detailed analysis would be beyond my current scope anyway (I have
 only prepared these for my closest relationships).  However, given the
 information you have provided I can mention a few astrological points
 concerning your relationships.

  First, Aries (the beginning, Fire, cardinal) and Pisces (the end, Water,
 mutable) often do have a difficult time relating to each other.  It is not
 only Pisces sympathies which quench Aries activities (Water quenching Fire),
 but also sensitive Pisces may quickly take offense to the abruptness and
 insensitivity of the Aries (Fire 'steaming' Water ?:-)).

  Second, your own suitability for relationships with some Pisces individuals
 is indicated by your Moon position (Pisces).  The Moon conjunct Sun aspect
 is especially favorable in a relationship and indicates intimate emotional
 understanding and close attunement (intense!).

  Third, your relationships with other Aries (and especially those with
 birthdays within a couple of days of yours) indicates another aspect in
 your comparative chart: Sun conjunct Sun.  This is also a generally favorable
 aspect in a relationship since both individuals are fueled by energy from
 the same source (they may _express_ it in different ways of course).
 Some relationships with this aspect can become a bit lop-sided (when viewed
 as a couple/partnership) since both individuals may approach a particular
 problem in the same way, thus reducing the diversity of responses of the
 partnership to a variety of problems.  People _within_ the relationship
 may not mind this, people interacting with the relationship may.

  So, in summary, your particular attachments appear to be astrologically
 understandable at the level of significant aspects of conjunction between
 the luminaries (Sun and Moon), which are both very powerful aspects when
 they appear in any relationship.

	Keep your Astrology Watch calendar handy, and ...
		Decide for yourself!
							Todd
672.18GLDOA::WETHERINGTONrock and roll soul...Thu May 05 1988 13:164
    Thanks for taking the trouble to shed some light on my question,
    Todd.  I'll stay tuned for the May watch.
    
    Doug
672.19Astrology Watch: New Moon in TaurusISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverFri May 13 1988 18:55194
672.20Astrology Watch: New Moon in GeminiISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverTue Jun 14 1988 17:58170
672.21Astrology Watch: New Moon in CancerISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverWed Jul 13 1988 23:46207
672.22Astrology Watch: New Moon in LeoISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverFri Aug 12 1988 15:01241
672.23Mars Retrograde QuestionBSS::VANFLEETSix impossible things before breakfastFri Aug 19 1988 17:2314
    Re: .22 Mars Retrograde
    
    My washing machine broke down last week.  Knowing how
    Mars retrograde affects machinery I bought my new one 
    last night.  The problem is that I can't get it delivered
    until Aug. 27.  Does this matter?  I've had terrible
    problems in the past with machinery _purchased_ during
    a Mars retrograde period.  Will the delivery date make
    a difference?
    
    BTW - A HUGE THANK YOU for all the work you two put
    into this each month!  I find it a great help!
    
    Nanci
672.24Mars Retrograde AnswerISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverFri Aug 19 1988 18:3523
    Re: .23
    
    Nanci,
    
    It is typically the time of the sales transaction (selection and payment)
    which is used as the astrologically relevant time for purchases.
    
    Thus, since Mars is not yet retrograde (goes retro on 26August), and
    since the moon was not void-of-course last night (should always keep
    that in mind for any major purchases) then your new washing machine gets
    a fundamentally clean astrological bill of health, no matter when
    it is delivered.  The delivery date could affect the short-term
    operation of your new washer, but should not have a lasting effect.
    
    However, if they call you back a couple of days before delivery
    to say that they are unable to send the model or color that you
    selected, then the 'purchase' time would be reset due to your
    reselection, even though the payment has already been made.
    
    						Todd

    BTW.  We appreciate the thank you, Nanci.  It is encouraging to 
          learn that some people are finding this information useful.
672.25For what it's worth...NATASH::BUTCHARTFri Aug 19 1988 18:5634
    A comment about void of course moons that I have observed in my
    own life.

    Common astrological wisdom states that one should not make major
    purchases when the moon is void of course.  The term refers to the
    time between when the moon makes its last major aspect to any planet
    (while in a given sign) and the time it enters the next sign.  Thus,
    the moon would go void of course these days after aspecting Saturn
    and Uranus in (roughly) 25-27 degrees of Sagittarius.
    
    This means that, depending on planetary placements by degrees of
    the signs, the void of course period may be shorter or longer in
    a given month.  After Saturn and Uranus move on into the early degrees
    of Capricorn the void of course period will tend to be quite long
    when the other planets are also in early degrees of the signs they
    are transiting.
    
    One thing I have observed, however, is that one's own birth chart
    can have an impact on this; one can have one's own "personal" void
    of course period, so to speak.  This would be the period after the
    moon makes its last aspect _to your natal planetary placements_
    while in a given sign, and its entry into the next sign.  If you
    have planets in 25 - 29 degrees of any sign, your own personal void
    of course period is quite short.
    
    It's true my mundane affairs go _really_ well when the moon is neither
    void of course in relation to the mundane transits nor in relation
    to the transits to my own chart.  But I have discovered it is possible
    for me to operate without disaster regarding major purchases et al
    even after the mundane lunar transit has gone void of course.  I
    have a planet at 27 degrees of a sign, which means that my personal
    void of course period is fairly short.
    
    Marcia
672.26BSS::VANFLEET6 Impossible Things Before BreakfastFri Aug 19 1988 19:315
    Todd,
    
    Thanks once again.
    
    Nanci
672.27WILLEE::FRETTSLove our Mother EarthFri Aug 19 1988 19:3310
    
    RE: Mars retrograde,
    
    I know someone who, a few year's back, bought a car while Mars
    was retrograde.  By the time she finally had *had it* with this
    car, four new engines were put in it and each one failed miserably.
    Worst case of a Mars retrograde purchase I ever heard of :-).
    
    Carole
    
672.28WILLEE::FRETTSLove our Mother EarthFri Aug 19 1988 19:368
    
    
    Todd,
    
    I appreciate the "Astrology Watch" also.  I print out a copy of
    each one and have it in my desk drawer - very handy.
    
    Carole
672.29The Moon and MeBSS::VANFLEET6 Impossible Things Before BreakfastFri Aug 19 1988 19:5030
    
    
    Re: .27 Carole
    
    The reason I was so careful about purchasing my washing
    machine before the Mars retrograde is because of some
    experiences my mother had a few years back.  She is a
    real estate broker/manager.  The company she worked for
    at the time moved her into a new office and all of the
    office equipment was bought during a Mars retrograde.
    For the next 1 1/2 years things were breaking down.
    She had trouble with the phone system, copy machine,
    modem lines (not DEC), even the coffee machine.  After
    months of frustration she happened to see an astrologer
    friend at a party who explained about the Mars retrograde.
    This obviously didn't solve the problems but there was
    at least an explanation.
    
    Re:  Marcia
    
    Thanks for the input.  I'm not very up on moon aspects.
    How do I find out where the moon was in relation to
    my birth chart (I know it was in Scorpio, but phase??)?
    
    Also, do you know of any good books about moon phases?
    I had my chart done years ago by someone who was just 
    beginning to study moon phases but was new enough to it
    that it seemed kind of hazy to me.
    
    Nanci
672.30Awk! Not this, too!GLDOA::PAGELIt's Here!Thu Sep 01 1988 19:2518
    RE: Mars Retrograde
    
    Not being very familiar with this, I have another question ... 
    
    As to "major purchases" and not making them during this period -
    My vehicle broke down Monday morning (of course), and the repairs
    included LOTS of new parts, and what I consider a *major* sum of
    money.  Being as this is the first time I've ever had any trouble
    at all with this vehicle (after 80,000 miles); would you consider
    this as the same kind of "major purchase" you warn about?
    
    I don't want to put any energy into the worry, but now that the
    nasty little seed has been planted, I can't help but wonder.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Cindy
     
672.31To GloriaNATASH::BUTCHARTTue Sep 06 1988 17:0417
    Well, here are a couple of things to consider.
    
    By "major purchase" I myself include only _first time_ purchases
    of a totally new whole piece of equipment.  
    
    Also, I think that Mars retrograde had something to do with your
    piece of heavily used (80 kilomiles is no small amount) equipment.
    If any equipment, including your physique too, by the way, is in
    need of overhaul, Mars retrograde periods can underline those needs
    quite forcefully.  The usually extroverted energy, focused inward,
    can reveal inward stresses that must be attended to before taking
    whatever it is on the road again, so to speak.
    
    So get those repairs and pay the bill.  Mars is telling you that
    they're needed.
    
    Marcia
672.32Mars retrograde repairs: Cover your a$$ISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverTue Sep 06 1988 18:1123
  re .30, Cindy:

  Retrograde Mars may have accentuated the mechanical problems leading
 to your car's current problems, but since your car is broken now, you
 have no choice (I presume) but to fix it now.  Astrology can be used to
 help determine optimum times for a variety of different actions for which
 you can select a time, but when you don't have a choice there is no need
 to astrologically second guess what you know you must do anyway.  However,
 astrology may still be able to provide a few hints about how to go about
 doing these things.

  While I agree with Marcia that Mars retrograde problems are typically
 considered to primarily apply to NEW purchases, the replacement parts
 and repair services could also be affected (especially for specifically
 mechanical repairs such as this one).  The best astrological advice for
 having repair work (or any service) done during a Mars retrograde period
 is to attempt to obtain the strongest/longest guarantee/warrantee for any
 parts used and/or services rendered.  In this case, a warrantee which
 extends beyond October 28th would be advised since Mars will not turn
 direct until then.  Similarly, if you rent a car while yours is in the
 shop, don't even think of doing without the optional insurance coverage.

							Todd
672.33THANKSGLDOA::PAGELIt's Here!Tue Sep 06 1988 18:3810
    RE:  .31 and .32
    
    Thanks!  Advice noted and taken.  I did have the repairs done, by
    a VERY reputable mechanic, and made sure that all the repairs and
    parts are covered under warranty.  The work *was* necessary, and probably
    overdue .... 
    
    I feel MUCH better now .... 
    
    Cindy
672.34From Gloria (via ESP)LEDS::BATESTue Sep 06 1988 22:2218
    
    To Marcia - re .25 and .31:
    
    I was reading the entries, came to .25, and thought very strongly
    about contacting you to find out more about this aspect of my natal
    chart...and its relevance to events as they are occurring to me
    now.  Several times I began to send a notes reply, or a mail message,
    but something else got in the way.
    
    Today I read .31, with its title, and decided that the message,
    or part of it, had gone out on the cosmic airwaves anyway, since
    part of your answer makes definite sense for me!
    
    Thanks for picking up, consciously or otherwise
    
    Gloria
    
    
672.35oh, oh, are we in trouble??COPA::CABANYAWed Sep 07 1988 17:1312
    First, thanks for the astrology watch monthly ...
    
    Secondly, are we in trouble or what?  After waiting for a long time
    for the 'right' deal on a boat, we came across the boat we've been
    waiting for and a great price and signed the papers on September
    1st (obviously, I had forgotten what was said about Mars during
    this time-frame).
    
    What do you all think??
    
    mary
    
672.36Astrology Watch: New Moon in VirgoISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverFri Sep 09 1988 22:26278
672.37I think you meant October at the end!NEXUS::ENTLERthe WizardMon Sep 12 1988 15:097
    RE: 672.36
    
    	Towards the end of your astrology posting, you went from September
    25th on and then began mentioning September 4th, 10th etc.  Did
    you mean October?
    
    
672.38Astrology Watch Errata ...ISTG::DOLLIVERTodd O. DolliverMon Sep 12 1988 16:0121
    RE: .37  Yes, you are absolutely correct!
    	     I'm glad to see you are reading the 'Watch' so carefully!  :-}
    
    The incorrect dates appear in the last large paragraph of descriptive
    text, and should read with each reference to "Sept" replaced with "Oct"
    as follows :
    
 On 4Oct Venus enters Virgo.  During this transit it is the practical things
    ****
  ...
 On 9Oct Venus at 5Vir squares Jupiter retrograde at 5Gem.  This indicates
    ****
  ...
 Finally, on 10Oct Venus at 7Vir trines Neptune at 7Cap.  This could provide
             *****
  ...

    Thanks for the feedback.  I take the astronomical accuracy of the 'Watch'
    seriously, and I appreciate any assistance in verifying its correctness.

               						Todd
672.39Astrology Watch: New Moon in LibraISTG::DOLLIVERBush/Khomeini '88Mon Oct 10 1988 14:58420
672.40Astrology Watch: New Moon in ScorpioISTG::DOLLIVERHappily out of the 'mainstream'.Wed Nov 09 1988 13:31344
672.41"Can you explain why?"HARPO::NIXONSEX PISTOL..!!Fri Nov 11 1988 01:1113
    Todd & Lisa:
    
      I found your astrology watch a couple of months ago.  It is fabulous.
    Keep up the teriffic work.
    
      I was curious about something in this months, tho.  Why does there
    seem to be such a large "gap" in the highlights between Nov 15-21?
    I see from the moonthly calendar the moon is moving through signs
    but not much else......
    
     Thanks for any info you can give me on this! 
    
    Vicki
672.42The Aspect GapISTG::DOLLIVERHappily out of the 'mainstream'.Fri Nov 11 1988 18:1674
 re -1; Vicki,

  There is no particular reason (or maybe too many reasons to count ;-}) as to
 why there are no planetary aspects or sign transitions from the period between
 November 15th through November 21st.  I guess I could say that it was the
 planetary luck of the draw, so to speak.  The composite pattern of all of
 the planetary cycles just happens to have a gap of activity there.  Just part
 of the master pattern, I suppose.

  However, there are a couple of specific contributing factors and other general
 characteristics of the Astrology Watch which could help to explain this gap.

   1.	The Astrology Watch only lists Moon aspects with the Sun.  Since each
	~month the Moon transits around the entire zodiac. it forms every aspect
	with every other celestial body.  This is simply too much information
	to transcribe for each Watch, although we may begin to indicate a few
	relevant Moon aspects when they contribute to the interpretation of
	other aspects.  There are several Moon aspects during the gap period.

   2.	The Astrology Watch considers only what are called 'major' aspects
	including conjunction (0 degrees), sextile (60), square (90), trine
	(120) and opposition (180).  There are many other 'minor' aspects which
	may have influences yet are not indicated in the Watch, including
	semi-sextile (30), inconjunct (150), semi-square (45), quintile (72),
	nonagen (40), etc...  While the allowable orb of influence for these
	'minor' aspects is less than the 'major' aspects (ie. the aspect must
	be more exact to have effects), many people would convincingly argue
	that aspects such as inconjunct (150) should be considered 'major'
	aspects.  If other aspects were considered in the Astrology Watch,
	additional aspects would be listed during this gap period.  We may
	start including a few inconjunct aspects in future Astrology Watches
	when the effects are strongly indicated.

	Also notice that the 'major' aspects are unequally distributed; where
	sixty degrees separate conjunctions from sextiles, or trines from
	oppositions, only thirty degrees separate sextiles from squares or
	squares from trines.  This means that there will be longer delays
	between 'major' aspects during times when planets are conjunct or
	opposed, and shorter delays when planets are closer to the square
	aspect.  This factor contributes only a small bit to the November gap
	period, but it is something to keep in mind to explain other gaps.

  3.	In general, planets make fewer aspects when they are moving slowly
	than when they are moving more quickly.  This factor does have a
	noticable effect during the November gap since we can identify several
	planets which are currently moving relatively slowly.  Saturn, Uranus,
	Mars and Mercury have all recently transitioned from retrograde to
	direct motion, and thus are not yet approaching their maximum transiting
	speed (Mercury is now picking up speed fast though).  Jupiter is now
	approaching the end of its retrograde period and is thus moving
	progressively slower and slower.  Uranus, Neptune and Pluto never move
	very fast, of course, since their orbital period is so long.  This
	is probably the major reason why there are fewer aspects during this
	moon cycle than most cycles, and why most of the remaining aspects
	involve the Sun, Venus or Mercury.

  The astrological significance of these periods which are devoid of major
 aspects or sign transitions is simply that there are unlikely to be major
 turning points or acute shifts of energies during those times.  Rather, they
 are periods when we are likely to coast along under prior influences.  We may
 have opportunities to resolve lingering effects of waning aspects, or to
 prepare ourselves for future challenges, or simply to rest and recuperate.

  It is obvious that you are 'Watching closely ;-}.  Don't hesitate to ask
 other questions about things that you may not understand.  Also, by the way,
 Lisa and I don't have any monopoly on 'correct' astrological interpretations.
 We provide a mix of a rather standard keyword-type approach (because this
 seems to be the easiest way to teach and learn the basic interpretations)
 along with certain insights acquired through reading and personal experience.
 If anyone else has comments on particular aspects which may clarify or extend
 particular interpretations, please feel free to post them here.

			Keep 'Watching,
							Todd
672.43"Thank you, Todd!"HARPO::NIXONSEX PISTOL..!!Fri Nov 11 1988 21:3618
    	Todd,
    
    	Thank you so much for the information!!  It is greatly appreciated.
    I am still very much the novice when it comes to astrology....one
    of those people who didn't realize the sort of influences the planets
    actually have on our lives until a couple of years ago!!  Silly me.  ;^)
    
    	I find that I am learning a lot by looking back at the past
    months watch and comparing it to what actually happened in my life.
    I write a lot of things in a notebook and it helps me "see" what
    has been going on.
    
    	This month looks like it is going to be very interesting for
    me!!  And finally looking up!!!
    
    	I'll keep 'watching'
    
    	Vicki
672.44<Hi there>SHIRE::LAMONMon Nov 14 1988 11:3419
    
    Todd,
    
    I have discovered this topic a few months ago and I find it very
    interesting.
    
    I have a question on 2 aspects that are not described in my books
    :
    the inconjunct and the quintile.
    
    How would you describe the effect of these aspects, i.e. are they
    mainly positive or negative and how do they manifest themselves.
    
    Thanks for your reply and also for the calendar watch!
    
    Beatrice
     
    
    negative or positive and in what 
672.45Overview of Astrological AspectsISTG::DOLLIVERHappily out of the 'mainstream'.Fri Nov 18 1988 14:29252
672.46The Elusive Inconjunct AspectISTG::DOLLIVERHappily out of the 'mainstream'.Tue Nov 22 1988 19:1585
672.47thanksSHIRE::LAMONWed Nov 23 1988 06:408
    
    Todd,
    
    Thanks very much for the lots of info you have provided on aspects.
     
    Bye for now
    
     Beatrice
672.48So there might be reason to this madness...STAR::WORCESTERLife need not be a zero-sum game.Thu Dec 01 1988 01:1818
    	I haven't kept up with this file for quite a while, but
    found this note to be interesting.  This fall has seemed to be a
    completely irritating period for me, starting sometime in late July
    until about Halloween.  A lady backed into my car door on the
    "infamous" full moon of Sept 25, and that day must have been the
    worst day of the year for me.  Lately, however, things have turned
    around quite nicely.  The accident which was so obnoxious in Sept
    turned out to be a net positive in the end because my car was fixed
    recently at no cost due to the insurance money, and the damage was
    such that I got several annoying rust areas and dents fixed for
    free.  It's interesting to note that things looked pretty obnoxious
    for the past several months of the 'Watch'.  At least it seems
    that it wasn't just me.
    
    Keep up the interesting 'Watch' reports...

    -Mike
    
672.49The "blind spot"NATASH::BUTCHARTIntergalactic ElephantThu Dec 08 1988 14:3354
    A few more words, from personal experience and observation, to add
    to Todd's info on aspects, especially the inconjunct.
    
    One thing I have noted is that people whose charts are heavy with
    them are the most considerate, helpful, organized people I know.
    They are sensitive to nuances of situations, they remember details,
    having perhaps been gifted from birth with the knowledge that things
    are not always what they seem, and that situations require careful
    analysis and perceptiveness before effective service can be offered.
    The folks I know whose charts contain lots of inconjuncts are also
    effective "gardeners", people who know that it's not occasional acts
    of heroism or derring-do that resolve long-standing problems, but
    patient, persistent application of caring effort.  I cherish these
    people, because I have seen more things die for lack of "gardening"
    than from outright disaster.
    
    Transiting inconjuncts can be another matter altogether, especially
    if one's natal chart does not contain any.  Any transiting aspect
    that is not in one's natal chart represents a new way of experiencing
    the energies of the planets involved, and it's like doing it for
    the first time.  My own experience of my transiting inconjuncts is
    that it's like having something positioned in the "blind spot" in
    one's visual field.  The energy (or facet of the Self, if you will)
    is there, but is not distinctly "visible".  When I focus fully on
    the expression of one planetary facet of the Self, the other facet 
    represented by the other inconjunct planet is effectively "unseen".
    There can be this uneasy sense of the "invisible" facet of the Self,
    of something forgotten or not done, with the attendant frustration
    that comes of not being able to keep both facets "in sight"; the
    "unseen" facet of the Self, if ignored, can take you by surprise.
    I feel it is these factors that can give rise to a transiting
    inconjunct's negative manifestations of accident-proneness or illness
    (both of which I have experienced from time to time when mis-managing
    my own transits).  
    
    One of the ways I have learned to manage inconjuncts is to deliberately
    *not* take route of trying for full, conscious awareness and unified
    application of both facets of Self.  I have found this to be exhausting
    and ineffective.  What I now train myself to do instead is to learn
    to operate *without* keeping both facets "in sight", much the same way
    a blind person develops other senses to compensate for a lack of sight,
    or that one automatically knows (feels) the reach of one's arm.
    I have some physical experience with this tactic, because I am so
    myopic as to be virtually blind without glasses; in the days before
    contacts were made so my eyes could tolerate them, I was also an
    active dancer and performer.  I always went on stage "blind",
    and was amazed at how swiftly I acquired intangible skills that
    enabled me to navigate, even to sustain audience contact, without
    precise vision.  When grappling at first with managing inconjunct
    transits, I decided to try applying this physical tactic to the
    mental/emotional/psychic/whatever realms also.  It takes practice,
    but I'm learning.  :-)
    
    Marcia
672.50Aspects not simply 'good' or 'bad'ISTG::DOLLIVERHappily out of the 'mainstream'.Fri Dec 09 1988 14:3626
 re .49;  Marcia,

  Thanks for sharing your insightful comments and experiences with both natal
 and transiting inconjunct aspects.  It will certainly help provide insights
 for my own understanding of the inconjunct aspect in action.  I would also
 like to highlight your comments which suggest that some difficulties inherent
 in the natal inconjunct aspects can later be reflected as apparently positive
 traits such as being considerate, helpful, organized, sensitive to nuances,
 'gardening', etc...

  This brings up an excellent point which is often overlooked, and which can be
 applied to other astrological aspects.  For example, some typically 'negative'
 square or opposition aspects may lead a person to develop the self-control and
 insights required to reconcile conflicting influences.  Also, some typically
 'positive' trine or conjunction aspects may cause things to flow so easily in
 certain areas of life that the individual may become lazy or spoiled.

  For this reason, it is insufficient to think of natal aspects as entirely
 'good' or 'bad'.  I hope people will keep this in mind when exploring their
 own natal charts.  As we all know, without a few 'difficult' aspects we never
 would have developed the *character* that we all have now ;-}.

  Anyway, it just reinforces the position that it's not what you're born with,
 but what you do with it, which is of the greatest value.

							Todd
672.51Astrology Watch: New Moon in SagittariusISTG::DOLLIVERHappily out of the 'mainstream'.Fri Dec 09 1988 14:45309
672.52Add'l commentsCLUE::PAINTERPray for peace, people everywhere.Thu Dec 15 1988 15:2026
                             
    Hi everyone!  Back from Florida...wonderful time!
    
    Managed to attend the 1989 Lazaris session while down there, and
    hope to write more on that later on, however just wanted to mention
    here that Lazaris also spoke of the three weeks beginning on Jan
    4th to be a time of action and to sow seeds of things that you want
    to have blossom in the year ahead.
    
    So now would be a good time to make a list, check it twice and
    prioritize it.  Then go about doing something about the items on
    the list starting Jan. 4th...though of course now is also as good
    a time as any...but the energy will be best around that time.  They
    can be small things - no need to try and tackle the entire world's
    problems in one fell swoop, but even one _little_ project will make 
    a difference.
    
    Lazaris also mentioned that it was most likely going to be a 
    difficult year and that our spirits might tend to become low, 
    so if you see your neighbor struggling and becoming frustrated, 
    lend a helping hand, an ear, a shoulder, or whatever, and know 
    that by working together, we will be able to get through it. 
    
    More in a bit.
    
    Cindy
672.53the answers are insideBSS::BLAZEKDancing with My SelfThu Dec 15 1988 18:536
    	Cindy, no offense to you, but I'm going to totally disregard
    	Lazaris's continual doom and gloom predictions and create my 
    	own reality for 1989, and always.
    
    						   Carla
    
672.54Not quite, Carla.WRO8A::WARDFRGoing HOME--as an AdventurerSat Dec 17 1988 18:0911
    RE: Carla
      
        Er,  I think you've misinterpreted, or else you've ignored some
    things that should be more obvious than what you've stated, but
    you are free to see things that way if you choose.
    
    
    Frederick
    (who prefers to see the doom-and-gloom in the hang-on-to-the-past
    consensus and NOT in my own reality.)
    
672.55this is obviousBSS::BLAZEKDancing with My SelfSun Dec 18 1988 02:366
    	I read a quote once:  "I may not always be perfect but I am
    	always me."  Sorry if you don't feel my enlightenment level 
    	aspires to yours, but it's all I've got at the moment.
    
    						   Carla
    
672.56Astrology Watch: New Moon in CapricornISTG::DOLLIVERHappily out of the 'mainstream'.Fri Jan 06 1989 21:39369
672.57Astrology Watch: New Moon in AquariusAICAD::DOLLIVERThe WatcherMon Feb 06 1989 17:53347
672.58Astrology Watch: New Moon in PiscesAICAD::DOLLIVERThe WatcherTue Mar 07 1989 19:03351
672.59Astrology Wath: New Moon in AriesAICAD::DOLLIVERThe WatcherThu Apr 06 1989 14:59267
672.60Astrology Watch: New Moon in TaurusAICAD::DOLLIVERThe WatcherFri May 05 1989 18:35272
672.61When , what and how?PHENIX::HARQUAILRead My Face! ;-&gt;Fri May 26 1989 13:458
    Ok, another astrological question, I'll move it if there is a more
    appropriate note. In approximately 6 weeks? There will be 2 planets
    with equal access or equal to the moon. Does anyone out there Know
    when this will happen? What the planets are involved and what the
    effect will be? From what I've heard another veil will be lifted.
    
    Thanks
    Marilyn
672.62Saturn conjunct NeptuneAICAD::DOLLIVERThe WatcherFri May 26 1989 20:2258
 re .61	PHENIX::HARQUAIL (Marilyn)

 >  ...  In approximately 6 weeks? There will be 2 planets
 >  with equal access or equal to the moon. Does anyone out there Know
 >  when this will happen? What the planets are involved and what the
 >  effect will be? From what I've heard another veil will be lifted.

  I don't really understand the phrase "2 planets with equal access or equal
 to the moon", but from what I can infer from the "veil will be lifted", you
 are probably referring to the triple conjunction that is now in progress
 between the planets Saturn and Neptune in the cardinal earth sign Capricorn.
 By 'triple' conjunction I mean that the two planets conjunct each other three
 separate times with alternating direct and retrograde encounters before
 initiating the next Saturn/Neptune cycle.  A triple conjunction is interpreted
 as a more complete reformation of the interrelationship between two planets
 than would occur if only a single conjunction initiated the cycle.

  The first conjunction between Saturn and Neptune occurred on March 3rd 1989
 at 12 degrees of Capricorn.  Both planets were in direct motion and Saturn
 (which moves faster) overtook Neptune.  Since that time, both planets have
 turned retrograde.  Because Saturn is closer to earth, its retrograde effect
 covers more degrees of arc and at a faster rate than the more distant planet
 Neptune, and thus Saturn backs up over Neptune to conjunct it again on June
 23rd 1989 at 11 degrees of Capricorn with both planets in retrograde motion.
 The final conjunction between Saturn and Neptune will occur on November 13th
 1989 at 10 degrees of Capricorn with Saturn overtaking Neptune while both
 planets are in direct motion again.  This final conjunction will signify most
 strongly the culmination of the old Saturn/Neptune cycle, and the initiation
 into a fresh new cycle.
 
  The following aspect interpretation was entered in the Astrology Watch to
 describe the first conjunction of Saturn and Neptune in Capricorn on March
 3rd 1989 :

 > Note 672.57: Astrology Watch: New Moon in Aquarius; Feb 6th - March 7th.
 > ...
 >  The Saturn conjunct Neptune aspect indicates steady concentration and
 > mastery of psychological focus.  This is extremely favorable for meditation
 > with an increased capacity for practical (Saturn) visualization (Neptune).
 > Saturn adds structure to Neptunian visons, music, arts, etc.  If you ever
 > considered atempting to create your own reality, then this is an ideal time
 > to start!  Emotional depression may arise at this time from subconscious
 > anxieties based upon memories of past relationships. These memories should be
 > faced honestly so they don't lead to irrational fears and anxieties.  Avoid
 > brooding and self-pity.  Uncertainties or deceptions (Neptune) may arise in
 > business or partnerships (Saturn), yet money may be made through art, music,
 > or cultural institutions.  Also, people may be on either the giving or
 > receiving end of secret (Neptune) investigations (Saturn).  This major aspect
 > initiates a new 30+ year cycle involving these Saturn and Neptune, and since
 > it occurs in Capricorn it may usher in a period where the results of psychic
 > visualization become tangible.  This could be the identifiable beginning of a
 > New Age where people acknowledge and practice creation of their own realities
 > ...

  If Saturn conjunct Neptune was not the celestial event that you were
 referring to then ...
	                        never mind ... ;-}
								Todd
672.63Could bePHENIX::HARQUAILRead My Face! ;-&gt;Tue May 30 1989 12:3310
    Thanks, very much Todd, for typing that all in, I did read the
    Astro watch, from March with great interest. 
    I'm asking this question for a friend who is not very familiar with
    Astrology so, I'll have to ask for more clarification. I was told
    there would be 2 planets which were small that would be equal to
    or have equal acces to the moon? It sounded like a trine to me.
    But I'll see if this makes sense to them.
    
    Thanks
    Marilyn
672.64Astrology Watch: New Moon in GeminiAICAD::DOLLIVERThe WatcherFri Jun 02 1989 18:41299
672.65Astrology Watch: New Moon in CancerAICAD::DOLLIVERThe WatcherFri Jun 30 1989 20:49274
672.66Astrology Watch: New Moon in LeoAICAD::DOLLIVERThe WatcherTue Aug 01 1989 16:29348
672.67Can someone help?AYOU28::TRORISONI'm just sittin' here bustin my @$$Wed Aug 02 1989 10:0118
    Hi,
    
    I don't know if I have the right place for this querie or not, but
    I'll fire ahead anyway.
    
    My name is Tracy-Anne Rorison, I will be 21 years of age on Friday
    11th August, I was born Sunday 11th August 1968, in a hospital in
    Ayr, Scotland.  Approximate time of birth was 12.40pm.
    
    I am getting married on Friday 1st September at 2.30pm in Maybole,
    9 miles south of Ayr.
    
    Is there aynone who would be willing to do my chart for me, I have
    had it done once before but have lost contact with the person who
    did it.
    
    Thanks in advance.
    Tracy-Anne
672.68Astrology Watch: New Moon in VirgoAICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Sep 01 1989 18:44291
672.69Astrology Watch: New Moon in LibraAICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Sep 29 1989 17:43256
672.70Thanks, Todd.CGVAX2::PAINTEROne small step...Fri Sep 29 1989 19:135
    
    Hm...Scorpio on Sex, Death and Money...sounds like a Woody Allen film
    or something.
    
    Cindy
672.71Sun/Moon Zenith ChartSTAR::HARAMUNDANISwhat are we doing?Tue Oct 24 1989 15:5651
    ...for Moon gazers, the following is a chart which includes
    the zenith time (the time when the Sun and the Moon are highest
    in the sky). This is for the remainder of October 1989.
    
    This was compiled from a program I wrote which calculates
    the number of hours visible and the zenith time from the
    rise and set times. Also noted is the *astronomical* constellation
    that the Moon is in and how many days old the Moon is on that day.
    
    Please note that due to the procession of the constellations,
    the astronomical constellation will differ from the astrological
    constellation.
    
    As the months proceed, I can place the charts as they come up.
    
    However, if people don't think this is usefull or it winds up
    being too confusing let me know. I'd also like to know whether
    the calculations I have made are correct. From my observations
    it seems pretty accurate, however, it is best scrutinized by
    more people.
    
    Also note, that these are calculated based on Eastern Standard Time
    (EST). Add one hour for Eastern Daylight Time (EDT) or as some call
    it, Daylight Savings Time (DST), until we go back to EST on the 29th.
    
    Enjoy!
    
    Regards,
    
    Sergei
    
CHART v0.5
	SUN   SUN   SUN   SUN   MOON  MOON  MOON  MOON   MOON
	RISE  SET   VIS   ZEN   RISE  SET   VIS   ZEN   CON AGE
October 24 1989 Tue 297 
	06:07 16:49 10:42 11:28 01:12 14:36 13:24 07:54 Leo 25 
October 25 1989 Wed 298 
	06:09 16:48 10:39 11:28 02:15 14:55 12:40 08:35 Leo 26 
October 26 1989 Thu 299 
	06:10 16:46 10:36 11:28 03:16 15:14 11:58 09:15 Vir 27 
October 27 1989 Fri 300 
	06:11 16:45 10:34 11:28 04:17 15:33 11:16 09:55 Vir 28 
October 28 1989 Sat 301 
	06:12 16:43 10:31 11:27 05:18 15:54 10:36 10:36 Vir 29 
October 29 1989 Sun 302 
	06:14 16:42 10:28 11:28 06:21 16:18 09:57 11:19 Vir 0 
October 30 1989 Mon 303 
	06:15 16:41 10:26 11:28 07:24 16:47 09:23 12:05 Lib 1 
October 31 1989 Tue 304 
	06:16 16:39 10:23 11:27 08:28 17:21 08:53 12:54 Lib 2 
    
672.72MOON CALENDAR FOR OCT/NOV 1989STAR::HARAMUNDANISwhat are we doing?Thu Oct 26 1989 18:38124
                    MOON CALENDAR for month of BEAVER 1989

 Sunday     Monday     Tuesday    Wednesday  Thursday   Friday     Saturday
+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|29-OCT-89 |30-OCT-89 |31-OCT-89 |01-NOV-89 |02-NOV-89 |03-NOV-89 |04-NOV-89 |
|NEW  10:29|          |          |          |          |          |          |
|D.S.T.ends|          |HALLOWEEN |          |          |Moon conj.|          |
|set clocks|          |          |          |          |Sat.      |          |
|back      |          |          |          |          |Ura.      |          |
|          |          |          |          |          |Nep.      |          |
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+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|05-NOV-89 |06-NOV-89 |07-NOV-89 |08-NOV-89 |09-NOV-89 |10-NOV-89 |11-NOV-89 |
|          |1ST  09:12|          |          |          |          |          |
|          |          |          |          |Taurid    |          |          |
|          |          |          |          |meteors   |          |          |
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+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|12-NOV-89 |13-NOV-89 |14-NOV-89 |15-NOV-89 |16-NOV-89 |17-NOV-89 |18-NOV-89 |
|          |FULL 00:52|          |          |          |          |          |
|Sat. conj.|(BEAVER)  |          |Ven. conj.|Leonid    |          |          |
|Nep.      |ZEN. 23:48|          |Nep.      |meteors   |          |          |
|last conj.|          |          |Sat.      |05:00     |          |          |
|until 2025|          |          |          |          |          |          |
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+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|19-NOV-89 |20-NOV-89 |21-NOV-89 |22-NOV-89 |23-NOV-89 |24-NOV-89 |25-NOV-89 |
|LAST 23:45|          |          |          |          |          |          |
|          |          |          |          |THANKS    |          |Andromed. |
|          |          |          |          |    GIVING|          |meteors   |
|          |          |          |          |          |          |22:00     |
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|26-NOV-89 |27-NOV-89 |          |          |          |          |          |
|          |          |          |          |          |          |          |
|Andromed. |Andromed. |          |          |          |          |          |
|meteors   |meteors   |          |          |          |          |          |
|22:00     |22:00     |          |          |          |          |          |
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+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+

CHART v0.5
	SUN   SUN   SUN   SUN   MOON  MOON  MOON  MOON   MOON
	RISE  SET   VIS   ZEN   RISE  SET   VIS   ZEN   CON AGE
October 29 1989 Sun 302 D.S.T. ends, set clocks back
	06:14 16:42 10:28 11:28 06:21 16:18 09:57 11:19 Vir 0 New  10:29
October 30 1989 Mon 303 
	06:15 16:41 10:26 11:28 07:24 16:47 09:23 12:05 Lib 1 
October 31 1989 Tue 304 HALLOWEEN
	06:16 16:39 10:23 11:27 08:28 17:21 08:53 12:54 Lib 2 
November 1 1989 Wed 305 
	06:17 16:38 10:21 11:27 09:28 18:04 08:36 13:46 Sco 3 
November 2 1989 Thu 306 
	06:19 16:37 10:18 11:28 10:25 18:55 08:30 14:40 Oph 4 
November 3 1989 Fri 307 Moon in conj. with Sat.,Ura.,Nep.
	06:20 16:35 10:15 11:27 11:13 19:56 08:43 15:34 Sag 5 
November 4 1989 Sat 308 
	06:21 16:34 10:13 11:27 11:55 21:02 09:07 16:28 Sag 6 
November 5 1989 Sun 309 
	06:22 16:33 10:11 11:27 12:30 22:11 09:41 17:20 Sag 7 
November 6 1989 Mon 310 
	06:24 16:32 10:08 11:28 12:59 23:23 10:24 18:11 Cap 8 1st  09:12
November 7 1989 Tue 311 
	06:25 16:31 10:06 11:28 13:25 --:-- 10:35 18:42 Cap 9 
November 8 1989 Wed 312 Venus at greatest elong. from Sun, view at sunset in west
	06:26 16:30 10:04 11:28 13:48 00:36 10:48 19:12 Aqu 10 
November 9 1989 Thu 313 Taurid Meteor Showers 00:00 (south)
	06:27 16:28 10:01 11:27 14:12 01:50 11:38 20:01 Psc 11 
November 10 1989 Fri 314 
	06:29 16:27 09:58 11:28 14:37 03:07 12:30 20:52 Psc 12 
November 11 1989 Sat 315 
	06:30 16:26 09:56 11:28 15:05 04:26 13:21 21:45 Psc 13 
November 12 1989 Sun 316 Sat. and Nep. last conj. until 2025
	06:31 16:25 09:54 11:28 15:40 05:49 14:09 22:44 Ari 14 
November 13 1989 Mon 317 
	06:32 16:24 09:52 11:28 16:23 07:13 14:50 23:48 Ari 15 Full 00:52 Beaver
November 14 1989 Tue 318 
	06:34 16:23 09:49 11:28 17:16 08:31 15:15 00:53 Tau 16 
November 15 1989 Wed 319 Venus in conj. with Nep.,Sat.
	06:35 16:23 09:48 11:29 18:21 09:40 15:19 02:00 Tau 17 
November 16 1989 Thu 320 Leonid Meteor Showers 05:00 (south)
	06:36 16:22 09:46 11:29 19:31 10:36 15:05 03:03 Gem 18 
November 17 1989 Fri 321 
	06:37 16:21 09:44 11:29 20:44 11:19 14:35 04:01 Gem 19 
November 18 1989 Sat 322 
	06:38 16:20 09:42 11:29 21:55 11:52 13:57 04:53 Can 20 
November 19 1989 Sun 323 
	06:40 16:19 09:39 11:29 23:02 12:19 13:17 05:40 Can 21 Last 23:45
November 20 1989 Mon 324 
	06:41 16:19 09:38 11:30 --:-- 12:41 12:41 06:20 Leo 22 
November 21 1989 Tue 325 
	06:42 16:18 09:36 11:30 00:06 13:00 12:54 06:33 Leo 23 
November 22 1989 Wed 326 
	06:43 16:17 09:34 11:30 01:08 13:19 12:11 07:13 Vir 24 
November 23 1989 Thu 327 
	06:45 16:17 09:32 11:31 02:10 13:38 11:28 07:54 Vir 25 
November 24 1989 Fri 328 
	06:46 16:16 09:30 11:31 03:11 13:58 10:47 08:34 Vir 26 
November 25 1989 Sat 329 Andromedid Meteor Showers 22:00 (south)
	06:47 16:15 09:28 11:31 04:13 14:22 10:09 09:17 Vir 27 
November 26 1989 Sun 330 Andromedid Meteor Showers 22:00 (south)
	06:48 16:15 09:27 11:31 05:16 14:49 09:33 10:02 Lib 28 
November 27 1989 Mon 331 Andromedid Meteor Showers 22:00 (south)
	06:49 16:14 09:25 11:31 06:19 15:22 09:03 10:50 Lib 29 
672.73Astrology Watch: New Moon in ScorpioAICAD0::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Oct 31 1989 13:59353
672.74...not another for the next 36 years...STAR::HARAMUNDANISwhat are we doing?Fri Nov 10 1989 17:303
...remember...big time conjunction this Sunday...
    
Saturn and Neptune last conjunction together until 2025 (Sunday) 12-NOV-1989 is 2 days away.
672.75Astrology Watch: New Moon in SagittariusAICAD0::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Nov 28 1989 19:53298
672.76MOON CALENDAR FOR NOV/DEC 1989STAR::HARAMUNDANISwhat are we doing?Tue Nov 28 1989 20:50122
                    MOON CALENDAR for month of COLD 1989

 Sunday     Monday     Tuesday    Wednesday  Thursday   Friday     Saturday
+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|          |          |28-NOV-89 |29-NOV-89 |30-NOV-89 |01-DEC-89 |02-DEC-89 |
|          |          |          |          |          |          |          |
|          |          |NEW  04:42|          |Moon conj.|Moon conj.|          |
|          |          |          |          |Ura.      |Sat.      |          |
|          |          |          |          |Nep.      |          |          |
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+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|03-DEC-89 |04-DEC-89 |05-DEC-89 |06-DEC-89 |07-DEC-89 |08-DEC-89 |09-DEC-89 |
|          |          |          |          |          |          |          |
|          |          |1ST  20:26|          |          |          |          |
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+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|10-DEC-89 |11-DEC-89 |12-DEC-89 |13-DEC-89 |14-DEC-89 |15-DEC-89 |16-DEC-89 |
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|Mer.      |          |(COLD)    |meteors   |greatest  |          |Mer.      |
|          |          |ZEN. 23:36|02:00     |brilliance|          |          |
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|          |          |          |          |          |          |          |
|          |          |LAST 18:55|          |Winter    |Ursid     |Mercury at|
|          |          |          |          |Solstice  |meteors   |greatest  |
|          |          |          |          |16:22     |05:00     |elong.    |
|          |          |          |          |          |          |from Sun  |
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|          |Moon conj.|          |          |          |          |          |
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CHART v0.5
	SUN   SUN   SUN   SUN   MOON  MOON  MOON  MOON   MOON
	RISE  SET   VIS   ZEN   RISE  SET   VIS   ZEN   CON AGE
November 28 1989 Tue 332 
	06:50 16:14 09:24 11:32 07:22 16:02 08:40 11:42 Sco 0 New  04:42
November 29 1989 Wed 333 
	06:51 16:14 09:23 11:32 08:19 16:52 08:33 12:35 Oph 1 
November 30 1989 Thu 334 
	06:52 16:13 09:21 11:32 09:11 17:49 08:38 13:30 Sag 2 
December 1 1989 Fri 335 
	06:54 16:13 09:19 11:33 09:55 18:54 08:59 14:24 Sag 3 
December 2 1989 Sat 336 
	06:55 16:13 09:18 11:34 10:31 20:03 09:32 15:17 Cap 4 
December 3 1989 Sun 337 
	06:56 16:12 09:16 11:34 11:02 21:13 10:11 16:07 Cap 5 
December 4 1989 Mon 338 
	06:57 16:12 09:15 11:34 11:28 22:24 10:56 16:56 Cap 6 
December 5 1989 Tue 339 
	06:58 16:12 09:14 11:35 11:51 23:35 11:44 17:43 Aqu 7 1st  20:26
December 6 1989 Wed 340 
	06:59 16:12 09:13 11:35 12:14 --:-- 11:46 18:07 Psc 8 
December 7 1989 Thu 341 
	07:00 16:12 09:12 11:36 12:37 00:47 12:10 18:42 Psc 9 
December 8 1989 Fri 342 
	07:01 16:12 09:11 11:36 13:03 02:03 13:00 19:33 Psc 10 
December 9 1989 Sat 343 
	07:01 16:12 09:11 11:36 13:33 03:21 13:48 20:27 Psc 11 
December 10 1989 Sun 344 
	07:02 16:12 09:10 11:37 14:10 04:42 14:32 21:26 Ari 12 
December 11 1989 Mon 345 
	07:03 16:12 09:09 11:37 14:58 06:02 15:04 22:30 Tau 13 
December 12 1989 Tue 346 
	07:04 16:12 09:08 11:38 15:57 07:16 15:19 23:36 Tau 14 Full 11:31 Cold
December 13 1989 Wed 347 Geminid Meteor Showers 02:00 (south)
	07:05 16:12 09:07 11:38 17:06 08:19 15:13 00:42 Aur 15 
December 14 1989 Thu 348 Venus reaches greatest brilliancy, rising around sunset
	07:06 16:12 09:06 11:39 18:21 09:09 14:48 01:45 Gem 16 
December 15 1989 Fri 349 
	07:06 16:12 09:06 11:39 19:34 09:48 14:14 02:41 Can 17 
December 16 1989 Sat 350 
	07:07 16:13 09:06 11:40 20:45 10:17 13:32 03:31 Can 18 
December 17 1989 Sun 351 
	07:08 16:13 09:05 11:40 21:53 10:42 12:49 04:17 Leo 19 
December 18 1989 Mon 352 
	07:08 16:13 09:05 11:40 22:57 11:04 12:07 05:00 Leo 20 
December 19 1989 Tue 353 
	07:09 16:14 09:05 11:41 23:59 11:23 11:24 05:41 Leo 21 Last 18:55
December 20 1989 Wed 354 
	07:09 16:14 09:05 11:41 --:-- 11:42 11:42 05:51 Vir 22 
December 21 1989 Thu 355 Winter Solstice 16:22 YULE
	07:10 16:15 09:05 11:42 01:01 12:02 11:01 06:31 Vir 23 
December 22 1989 Fri 356 Ursid Meteor Showers 05:00 (north)
	07:10 16:15 09:05 11:42 02:02 12:24 10:22 07:13 Vir 24 
December 23 1989 Sat 357 Mercury at greatest elong. from Sun, view at sunset low in west
	07:11 16:16 09:05 11:43 03:05 12:49 09:44 07:57 Vir 25 
December 24 1989 Sun 358 
	07:11 16:16 09:05 11:43 04:08 13:20 09:12 08:44 Lib 26 
December 25 1989 Mon 359 
	07:12 16:17 09:05 11:44 05:12 13:59 08:47 09:35 Sco 27 
December 26 1989 Tue 360 
	07:12 16:18 09:06 11:45 06:11 14:45 08:34 10:28 Sco 28 
    
672.77Astrology Watch: New Moon in CapricornAICAD0::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Dec 28 1989 14:36284
672.78Help!!!!!MSDOA::MCMULLINFri Dec 29 1989 15:017
    I'm sorry, but I do not understand how this astrology watch works, but
    I would really like to.  Could someone please send me mail and try to
    explain it a little to me?  I'm at MMO or node MMO01.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Virginia
672.79--sorry, this is my tongue-in-cheek for the end-of-year--WRO8A::WARDFRGoing HOME--as an AdventurerFri Dec 29 1989 19:2914
    Hi, Virginia...(.78)
    
         I have one of those new-fangled astrology watches...it's really
    neat!  When the big hand is on Uranus and the little hand is on
    little Earthy, then I know that a big moon is on the rise.  I guess
    the batteries must be real powerful, cause this always causes the
    lens to get misty.  But strapping it on gives me a big jolt, too,
    since it's bio-magnetic properties accelerate the blood flow.
    Anyway, I don't totally understand it, either, but it is rather
    exhilerating just the same.  Maybe somebody will explain it or 
    demonstrate it for me some day.
    
    Frederick
    
672.80Astrology Watch: New Moon in AquariusAICADC::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Jan 26 1990 21:23303
672.81Astrology Watch: New Moon in PiscesAICADC::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Feb 23 1990 20:35345
672.82Astrology Watch: New Moon in AriesAICADC::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Mar 27 1990 15:49318
672.83Astrology Watch: New Moon in TaurusAICADC::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Apr 24 1990 21:16338
672.84Astrology Watch: New Moon in GeminiAICADC::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu May 24 1990 14:53311
672.85Astrology Watch: 1st of 2 New Moons in CancerAICADC::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Jun 22 1990 20:49321
672.86Astrology Watch: 2nd in a row New Moon in CancerAICADC::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Jul 20 1990 18:49339
672.87Astrology Watch: New Moon in LeoAICADC::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Aug 20 1990 19:03301
672.88Astrology Watch: New Moon in VirgoAICADC::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Sep 18 1990 15:49335
672.89Astrology Watch: New Moon in LibraAICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Oct 18 1990 13:17347
672.90Astrology Watch: New Moon in ScorpioAICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Nov 16 1990 19:23307
672.91Astrology Watch: New Moon in SagittariusAICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Dec 17 1990 17:46353
672.92Astrology Watch: New Moon in CapricornAICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Wed Jan 16 1991 02:49362
672.93Astrology Watch: New Moon in AquariusAICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Feb 14 1991 18:32340
672.94Astrology Watch: New Moon in PiscesAICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Sat Mar 16 1991 02:43298
672.95Astrology Watch: New Moon in AriesAICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Apr 12 1991 18:41286
672.96Full moon?SQM::HARQUAILWoof Woof!Mon Apr 29 1991 13:2712
    Todd,
    	I appreciate your astro watch each month, and find it helpful in 
    	seeing general trends, and gaging social atmospheric conditions
    	;-). I'm a lil confused this month, though, you have the full 
    	moon listed for May 3rd I think? The full moon was actually 
    	April 28th. Should the general interpertation for May 3rd actually
    	be for April 28th? Is this just a Mertcury in retrograde effect
    ;-)?
    
    
    thanks
    terry
672.97Yeah.. Mercury retro.. that's the ticket :-)AICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Apr 29 1991 14:5028
 You are absolutely right, terry.  Somehow the full moon text slipped down
 from April 28th to the next active day on May 3rd ... while it is listed
 correctly in the calendar section.  I have no idea what I was thinking,
 or how it happened, but I will take you up on your offer to attribute it
 to Mercury retrograde ;-}

 So, the full moon did in fact occur yesterday (28Apr) at 4:59PM EDT with
 the Sun at 08Taurus and the Moon at 08Scorpio.  Thus the following full moon
 text actually applies to yesterday's "atmospheric conditions" (not 03May).

	"The full moon in Scorpio/Taurus will energize and intensify the
	 deepest of our emotions, so it may be wise to keep any nasty
	 feelings to ourselves today."

 (Yup .. it works for me .. if only I could always follow my own advice ;-}).

 Keep in mind that we are still in the midst of the post-full moon period
 (until the Moon enters Sagittarius), so these energies are still quite active.

 Happily, this is the last time I will be able to use the Mercury retrograde
 excuse for a while, since it just turned direct at 18Aries yesterday morning
 at 5:50AM EDT!  It will take a couple of days to get going, but since this
 recent Mercury retrograde period has seemed especially difficult for me, I
 am anxiously looking forward to a period of smoother sailing over the next
 couple of months.  I hope it works out that way for you too!

 Thanks for your watchful eye,
 Todd
672.98Astrology Watch: New Moon in TaurusAICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon May 13 1991 19:57338
672.99Astrology Watch: New Moon in GeminiAICAD::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Jun 11 1991 14:12302
672.100Astrology Watch: New Moon in CancerSELECT::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Jul 12 1991 00:36328
672.101Astrology Watch: New Moon in LeoSELECT::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Aug 09 1991 19:54313
672.102Astrology Watch: New Moon in VirgoSELECT::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Sep 06 1991 18:10310
672.103Astrology Watch: New Moon in LibraBIBOP::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Oct 07 1991 14:19344
672.104Astrology Watch: New Moon in ScorpioBIBOP::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Wed Nov 06 1991 12:02339
672.105Astrology Watch: New Moon in SagittariusBIBOP::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Dec 05 1991 15:34326
672.106Astrology Watch: New Moon in CapricornBIBOP::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Jan 03 1992 18:01365
672.107Astrology Watch: New Moon in AquariusBIBOP::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Feb 03 1992 14:41321
672.108Astrology Watch: New Moon in PiscesBIBOP::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Wed Mar 04 1992 12:52284
672.109WEDDING DAY MOONGUCCI::SMILLERWed Mar 04 1992 14:475
    I found out that on my wedding day, May 16th, there will be a full
    moon-at least that's what my calendar says. Other than everyone getting
    crazy, what else can I expect?
    
    shannon
672.110Sorry, it just tickled me. :-)DWOVAX::STARKUse your imaginationWed Mar 04 1992 14:567
>    I found out that on my wedding day, ...
>    Other than everyone getting crazy, what else can I expect?
    
    Maybe it's best at this point to sit down with Mom and Dad or a close
    friend, and have an overdue little chat, Shannon.
    
    							:-)  
672.111Is the moon in Uranus again?MISERY::WARD_FRMaking life a mystical adventureWed Mar 04 1992 15:297
    re: .110 (Todd)
    
         That cracked me up...thanks, Todd!
    
    :-)
    Frederick
    
672.112?DWOVAX::STARKUse your imaginationWed Mar 04 1992 15:539
    re: .111 (sort-of), 
    
    	Wasn't there a conjunction of Uranus and Neptune recently
    	that was claimed by some Astologers to be responsible for
    	a rash of firings of key executives of various companies ?
    
    	Anyone else heard that story ?
    
    							todd
672.113Some companies we keep, I swear!MISERY::WARD_FRMaking life a mystical adventureWed Mar 04 1992 16:2612
    re: .112 (Todd)
    
         Maybe they're all suffering from some sort of cosmic
    rash that burns like fire.  Boy, I bet they wish they'd taken
    their astral medication like we told them, huh?!  Never know
    what one can catch when the moon is down!  Or mebee they
    just be singing off key, hence they are being punished for
    not being able to carry a Neptune.  Tonally tubular!
    
    
    Frederick
    
672.114HOO78C::ANDERSONZaker is dat niets zaker is.Thu Mar 05 1992 05:059
    >Wasn't there a conjunction of Uranus and Neptune recently	that was
    >claimed by some Astologers to be responsible for a rash of firings
    >of key executives of various companies ?
     
    Well the distance between the Earth and Uranus is very great and
    Neptune is the outermost planet in our solar system, I can't see their
    position in the sky doing much down here.

    Jamie.
672.115COMICS::BELLHear the softly spoken magic spellThu Mar 05 1992 07:198
  
  > Wasn't there a conjunction of Uranus and Neptune recently  that was
  > claimed by some Astologers to be responsible for a rash of firings
  > of key executives of various companies ?
  
  Shame really ... this company could do with a conjunction like that.
  
  Frank
672.116Arf ArfDWOVAX::STARKUse your imaginationThu Mar 05 1992 12:2323
>    Well the distance between the Earth and Uranus is very great and
    
    Thank you Jamie.  I believe I understand your position.
    The Astrological significance of the farther planets, related to 
    their longer orbits, is supposed to be quite significant, since it
    time-wise relates to longer-term trends.  This particular alignment,
    according to what I heard in the news story (it was a SLOW news
    day) was supposed to occur only every 100 and some years.  
    In Astrology, theoretically, the distance from earth is not neccessarily 
    the determining factor in significance.   I'm taking something akin to 
    the position of Astrology as a celestial clock of sorts when I say
    this, but not intending to support that position myself.
    
>    Neptune is the outermost planet in our solar system, I can't see their
>    position in the sky doing much down here.
    
    What happened to Pluto ?  Of course my knowledge of Astronomy is
    fairly 'Mickey Mouse,'  so I will defer to dogged insistence in
    Neptune as the outermost planet.
    
    							kind regards,
    
    							todd
672.117HOO78C::ANDERSONZaker is dat niets zaker is.Thu Mar 05 1992 12:418
    Re .116

    Have you ever heard of "the square of the distance"? It affects almost
    all forms of radiated energy.

    Neptune is the outermost planet. Pluto is the second outermost planet.

    Jamie.
672.118OFFSHR::PAY$FRETTSWill,not Spirit,is magneticThu Mar 05 1992 12:5721
    
    
    Regarding the Uranus-Neptune conjunction, zodiacally they get to
    within one degree of each other this year.  In 1993, they will
    conjunct 3 times.  Many astrologers attribute the upheaval and
    drastic changes occurring world-wide in recent years to the
    transit of these two planets through the sign Capricorn, which
    represents our societal structures.  This conjunction last 
    occurred well over 100 years ago.  What is different at this 
    time is the transit of Pluto through its sign Scorpio, which is
    adding an additional 'whammy' to this cycle.
    
    So, Todd, I wouldn't specifically attribute the corporate firings, etc.
    to the conjunction, as it has really not happened yet.  However, the
    major changes in the economy, the problems with the banking industry,
    the fall of the real estate market, etc. are very connected to what 
    I wrote above.  From my own perspective as an astrologer, I don't see 
    the economic situation really bouncing back.  We are in for one heck
    of an upheaval so hang on to your hats!
    
    Carole
672.119Huh ? ... and ... Thanks !DWOVAX::STARKUse your imaginationThu Mar 05 1992 13:239
    re: .117, Jamie,
    	Huh ?  I never said anything about radiated 
    	energy, did I ?   Was that really in response to my note,
    	or to the topic in general ?
    
    re: .118, Carole,
    	Thanks !
    
    							todd
672.120OFFSHR::PAY$FRETTSWill,not Spirit,is magneticThu Mar 05 1992 13:309
    
    
    RE: the orbits of Neptune and Pluto
    
    I may be mistaken, but I believe the Neptune and Pluto take turns
    being the outermost planet.  Pluto's orbit brings it inside and outside
    the orbit of Neptune from time to time.
    
    Carole
672.121SFCPMO::CABANYAThu Mar 05 1992 13:333
so Carol, by looking at your charts how long do you think the current economy
will continue to lag?  Personally, I think we're in for a depression....
(nice cheery note for Thursday morning?)
672.122OFFSHR::PAY$FRETTSWill,not Spirit,is magneticThu Mar 05 1992 13:5711
    
    
    From my own feelings about the astrological cycle, I don't think
    the economy is going to bounce back.  Many astrologers feel that
    the structures as we know them are going to collapse because they
    are just not functioning for our good anymore.  A new societal
    structure needs to be made way for.....what that is is up to us
    to create.  I guess we'll just have to wait and see.  It doesn't
    hurt to be somewhat prepared, however.
    
    Carole
672.123SFCPMO::CABANYAFri Mar 06 1992 13:563
thanks Carol ...

mary
672.124BCSE::SUEIZZ::GENTILETeamlinks for WindowsFri Mar 06 1992 14:099
Carol,

I find it interesting what you are saying because many of the Native American 
elders are saying the same thing about these times being a time of massive 
Earth changes and changes in society's structures. It is up to us to create a 
better society.

Sam

672.125Gulf Water, by SatelliteWELLIN::NISBETDougie Nisbet | WLO | 853 4334Fri Mar 06 1992 16:0112
    I think the reason for the upheavals in the world over the last few
    years, and the "terrible things that happen in the world today", are
    attributable to advances in Communications Technology.

    I don't think things are any worse nowadays than they have been. It's
    just that we have excellent means of transmitting news around the
    globe.

    This is Dougie Nisbet, In the UK; now back to the studio.

    Dougie
     
672.126You're not alone! (;^)TNPUBS::PAINTERlet there be musicFri Mar 06 1992 18:158
    
    Re.125
    
    Dougie,
    
    Yes, I tend to agree with you.
    
    Cindy
672.127Astrology Watch: New Moon in AriesBIBOP::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Apr 03 1992 14:52307
672.128Astrology Watch: New Moon in TaurusDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Sun May 03 1992 17:39384
672.129Astrology Watch: New Moon in GeminiDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Jun 01 1992 13:37271
672.130Astrology Watch: New Moon in CancerDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Jun 29 1992 20:35347
672.131Astrology Watch: New Moon in LeoDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Jul 30 1992 05:18307
672.132Astrology Watch: New Moon in VirgoDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Aug 27 1992 17:49313
672.133Difference in Position?BTOVT::HARAMUNDANISTue Sep 08 1992 14:413
A question on this months conjunction of Uranus and Neptune. Astronomical reports
show that it is occuring in Sagittarius. However, I have heard Astrological
reports showing that it is occuring in Capricorn. Why the difference?
672.134MAGEE::FRETTSyou don't know how I feel...Tue Sep 08 1992 15:038
    
    
    Hi Sergie,
    
    Astronomical placements are based on the constellations.  Most astrological
    placements are based on the zodiac.  Two different things.
    
    Carole
672.135...in this case, they are the same!BTOVT::HARAMUNDANISTue Sep 08 1992 16:1813
Re: .-1

Hi Carole,

Thanks for the response. I understand what you are saying, but I also
understand that the plane of the ecliptic that the planets pass through
includes all the constellations in the zodiac, which in this case (Capricorn
and Sagittarius) are the same. I guess I am missing something. Could you
elaborate please?

Bright blessings to you!

Sergei
672.136NAC::KINDELBill Kindel @ LKG1Tue Sep 08 1992 20:3417
672.137NAC::KINDELBill Kindel @ LKG1Thu Sep 10 1992 15:4130
672.138...Earth's procession could require an Astrological adjustment...BTOVT::HARAMUNDANISThu Sep 10 1992 16:1615
Re: .-1 (Bill)

Thanks for the information. If indeed it is the case that the Astrological Zodiac
originally based on the location of the vernal equinox in ancient times (what
year was that again?) it would be understandable that (again, due to the
procession of the Earth's rotational axis) it would differ by as much as an
entire sign/constellation as is the case now.

Taking this as the case, why would it not be more accurate for an Astrological
readjustment to be made to take into account the procession of Earth's
rotational axis. Surely this would lead to more accurate readings, especially
since, as is noted by the difference of an entire sign (i.e. Capricorn as
opposed to Sagittarius) readings could be quite different.

Is an Astrological adjustment required? It would seem so. If not, why not?
672.139MAGEE::FRETTSthe healing has begun....Thu Sep 10 1992 17:2518
    
    RE: .137
    
    Bill, how "ancient" are you referring to?  Also, why do you think
    it is unfortunate that many astrologers use the tropical zodiac?
    
    Sergie, I'm not sure why the zodiac has not been adjusted all this
    time, but I do know that chart calculatins based on the tropical
    zodiac are quite meaningful.
    
    Since I am not well versed in technical astronomy, I can't
    intelligently dialogue with you about this.  However, I can certainly
    ask the question of some friends of mine and see if they have some
    insights to share.
    
    Carole
    
    
672.140...yes, please share them!BTOVT::HARAMUNDANISThu Sep 10 1992 17:3013
Re: .-1

Thanks, Carole, I would be very interested to read what you find out from your
friends. Please post when you get the chance. I understand you to mean "tropical
zodiac" to be that which Astrology uses as opposed to the Astronomical collection
of constellations on the ecliptic. It would be an interesting exercise to find
out exactly where the constellations were at my birth (Astronomically that is)
and compare that with the Astrological locations, possibly determine the
comparison of their difference readings, and see how accurate they are.

Thanks again!

Sergei
672.141NAC::KINDELBill Kindel @ LKG1Thu Sep 10 1992 18:0122
    Re .139:
    
>   Bill, how "ancient" are you referring to?
    
    From what I can tell, we're talking about the Zodiac at the time of the
    Greek Empire.
    
>   Also, why do you think it is unfortunate that many astrologers use the
>   tropical zodiac?
    
    It's only "unfortunate" that the discrepancy exists to prompt the
    question in the first place.  Since astronomy and astrology are largely
    unrelated, there's no particular reason they should use a common system
    for locating celestial events.
    
>   I'm not sure why the zodiac has not been adjusted all this time, but I
>   do know that chart calculations based on the tropical zodiac are quite
>   meaningful.
    
    As an empirical science, astrology attempts to predict the future based
    upon observation of the past.  It could be that better results come
    from NOT adjusting to accomodate precession.  Who knows?
672.142MAGEE::FRETTSthe healing has begun....Thu Sep 10 1992 18:038
    
    Hi Sergei,
    
    I think Sidereal charts (based on the constellations) are available.
    Will check my MacIntosh software at home and see if it does them.
    If so, I can run it for you.
    
    Carole
672.143MAGEE::FRETTSthe healing has begun....Thu Sep 10 1992 18:079
    
    
    Hi again Bill!
    
    I do use astrology for some predictive work (looking at future
    trends), but for the most part my work focuses on the psychological 
    and spiritual aspects of an individual.
    
    Carole
672.144Major Astrological Significance?!BTOVT::HARAMUNDANISWed Sep 16 1992 14:1537
Regarding the attached article I transcribed from the paper today, it looks like
they have found our "tenth planet". What ramifications does this have on
Astrology? What sign would this planet belong to? It would appear that
Astrologers now have as much (if not more) work to accomodate this newly
discovered member!

Regards,

Sergei
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The Burlington Free Press
Wednesday, September 16th, 1992

"ASTRONOMERS FIND CLUE TO COMETS

HONOLULU

Astronomers have discovered a small planet-like object beyond Pluto that might
provide long-sought evidence of where comets come from.

The reddish object, 124 miles in diameter, is cruising at a distance 42 times as
far from the sun as Earth -- about 4 billion miles out. Its discoverers believe
it confirms the existence of the hypothetical Kuiper belt, home of would-be
comets.

If this is ture, "We've found the answer to the question, 'Where do the comets
come from?'" said David Jewitt of the University of Hawaii.

Jewitt said he believes the object is a "virtual comet," something that would
turn into a comet if it were pulled closer to the sun."
672.145Dates for Uranus/Neptune conjunctionsDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Sep 17 1992 16:1316
    re .133:
    >  A question on this months conjunction of Uranus and Neptune.
    
    I am not sure where you got the idea that Uranus and Neptune are
    conjunct this month.  According to my information, Uranus and Neptune
    will be within one degree of each other from December 1992 to December
    1993, with the following three conjunctions (as seen from Earth) :
    
    		February 3, 1993	(19 Capricorn)
    		August  21, 1993        (18 Capricorn .. retrograde)
    		October 25, 1993        (18 Capricorn)
    
    As I recall, the single heliocentric conjunction of these two planets
    (as seen from the Sun) occurs on April 19, 1993.
    
    Todd
672.146VERGA::STANLEYwhat a long strange trip it's beenThu Sep 17 1992 16:189
    Todd,
    
    In case no one has mentioned it lately... thank you for entering the
    Astrology Watch notes.  I appreciate reading them and all the work
    you do in entering them.
    
    Thank you,
    
    mary
672.147Thank YouASABET::ESOMSManifesting a DreamThu Sep 17 1992 16:315
    Good note Mary.  Todd, I too appreciate Lisa's and Your work
    to enter these.  
    
    Thanks you,
    Joanne
672.148...depends what school of thought you're from...BTOVT::HARAMUNDANISThu Sep 17 1992 16:5315
Re: .145 (Todd)

In reference to the question as to whether Uranus and Neptune are conjunct, it
appears that there is more than one school of thought on this subject. My
understanding is that the one your are using determines conjunctions when the
planetary positions come within one degree. Using this school of thought you
would not see that they are conjunct.

The school of thought I am using is to recognize conjunctions when the planetary
positions come within eight degrees. Using this school of thought they are
indeed conjunct at this time and will be for a long time to come.

Regards,

Sergei
672.149Eight Degrees???NAC::KINDELBill Kindel @ LKG1Thu Sep 17 1992 18:1513
672.150MAGEE::FRETTSthe healing has begun....Thu Sep 17 1992 22:0714
    
    RE: the conjunctions
    
    In a natal chart, an 8 degree orb (10 degrees for the lights) would
    be considered a conjunction.  However, what is being tracked here is
    the actual meeting of these two planets, and their exact degree/minute
    of conjunction are the potent points that astrologers have been and
    will work with as far as the significance for humanity.
    
    In the timing of events when using transits to natal placements and
    progressed points, the window is very small - perhaps 10 to 15 minutes
    at the most.
    
    Carole
672.151Tropical zodiac is OKPLAYER::VERHEYENWed Sep 23 1992 15:1122
[re .138]
> readjustment to be made to take into account the procession of
> Earth's rotational axis.

The astrological signs, used by astrologers, have NOTHING to do with
the constellations, used by astronomers. Astrology only
uses the ecliptic (nothing but the orbit of Earth around the Sun, 
(re 1603.57) or, seen from Earth, the yearly path from the Sun
around the Earth) as a basic symbol to point to the yearly cyclic
changing quality of the relation between Earth and Sun.
For certain reasons, this yearly movement is divided in 12 equal
sectors of 30 degrees each. To be able to easily distinguish 
between the different mathematical sectors, each of them got as
name the same name as the constellation that was behind it AT THAT
MOMENT. Nobody is thinking here about direct influences from those
stars !

So, in my opinion, forget about readjustment.

Hope it's clear.

Guido
672.152Astrology Watch: New Moon in LibraDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Sep 24 1992 21:41335
672.153Astrology Watch: New Moon in ScorpioDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Oct 23 1992 20:11320
672.154Errata ...DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Oct 26 1992 19:159
    Ooops.
    
    The Moon Events time heading in the current Moon Cycle Calendar should read
    EST (Eastern Standard Time) instead of EDT (Eastern Daylight Time).
    
    The times themselves are correct (EST), but when I turned my clock back
    I must have gotten stuck in a bit of a time zone warp ;-}
                                 
    Todd
672.155Astrology Watch New Moon in SagittariusDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Nov 23 1992 20:04349
672.156A bit late ...DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Wed Dec 30 1992 00:2511
    Well, I have been on vacation for the past week and have just finished
    the Astrology Watch tonight.  Better late than never, I suppose.
    Thanks for your patience.
    
    We are now warming up for the first of three Uranus-Neptune
    conjunctions next month.  It may be worthwhile to check out the
    Mars oppositions, and the Sun and Mercury conjunctions to both
    Uranus and Neptune this month to get an idea of the energies which
    will be involved in this major conjunction of outer planets.
    
    Todd
672.157Astrology Watch: New Moon in CapricornDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Wed Dec 30 1992 00:27354
672.158Astrology Watch: New Moon in AquariusDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Jan 22 1993 17:33350
672.159Astrology Watch: New Moon in PiscesLMOPAS::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Feb 19 1993 20:02258
672.160Where does it all come from?SNOC02::KYRIACOUCWed Feb 24 1993 21:149
    Dear Todd and Lisa,

     I am new to this note, so please forgive a redundant question,
     but is this original stuff, or is there some publication, magazine
     which is used as reference material on which your articles are
     based. I have friends outside of DEC who would be interested in
     gaining access to this type of information and interpretation.

    				Regards Chris
672.161It comes from all around us ...LMOPAS::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Feb 26 1993 15:2355
 Hi Chris,

 Most of the Astrology Watch information is certainly not original to us.
 We draw from many tangible and intangible sources to produce the actual
 interpretations.  Lisa's mother Ada is a certified astrologer, so Lisa
 was brought up with astrology.  I (Todd) became interested enough at 18
 to get my natal chart done by a friend of my mother's, and I have been
 "watching" ever since.

 We have been preparing this report for quite some time now, so we generally
 have several several previous interpretations of the same aspect to filter
 and review.  We adjust the interpretation for the particular signs involved
 or for other current astrological influences, and if a representative example
 or scenario occurs to us, we include it.  Exceptions include aspects such as
 the current Uranus-Neptune conjunction, which we have read extensively on,
 but are only now experiencing.

 We feel that we are actually best at interpreting our own natal charts and
 transits through them.   We have extended our collection of natal charts
 to include quite a few friends and relatives, and we are always "watching"
 and trying to assess the effects of current transits on various people.
 Since this individual analysis can't be conveyed through the Astrology Watch
 reports, it sometimes seems a bit impersonal to us.  However, some of our
 own experiences do show up as possible aspect scenarios which can bring some
 of the aspects to life a bit more.

 We hope that the Astrology Watch can at least inform people of current
 transits and aspects, provide relatively standard interpretations with at
 least a few extras, and allow people to observe for themselves and embellish
 their own understanding and interpretations.  For those who know their own
 natal charts, the report can also be used to determine personal transits.

 We obtain the aspect position/time data primarily from Llwellyn's Astrological
 Calendar, and sometimes we consult standard ephemerides.  We recommend the
 monthly Mountain Astrologer publication which includes high quality articles,
 although they are usually too specific to include in the Astrology Watch.

 Robert Hand is definitely our favorite astrologer, and we strongly recommend
 his book "Planets in Transit" for anyone interested in tracking transiting
 aspects to their own natal chart.  We have several other books of his,
 including "Planets in Youth" (which helps us understand our daughter) and
 "Planets in Composite" (which helps us understand our relationships).
 We also frequently reference the books "Predictive Astrology" by Frances
 Sakoian, and more recently, "Astrology, A Cosmic Science" by Isabel Hickey
 (both are former teachers of Lisa's mother Ada).

 So, Chris ... while the interpretations are not ours alone, they also aren't
 derived from any single identifiable source.  We think that the Mountain
 Astrologer is a good place to start, even without your own natal chart
 information, although we think having your own natal chart to compare against
 is the best way to begin learning astrology.  Of course you are also welcome
 to share the Astrology Watch with whomever you wish.

 Thanks for your comments,
 Todd
672.162VERGA::STANLEYwhat a long strange trip it's beenFri Feb 26 1993 19:216
    Todd, 
    I want to thank you and Lisa for entering these.  I really look forward
    to them and I use them as a reference a lot.  Just want you to know
    that we appreciate it.
    
    mary
672.163taaSNOC02::KYRIACOUCMon Mar 01 1993 02:4618
    HI Lisa and Todd,

    You guys certainly put in a big effort, and I sure you must have 
    a big following of silent supporters, people who actively read
    what you write, but may not actually write and  say thanks.

 >or scenario occurs to us, we include it.  Exceptions include aspects such as
 >the current Uranus-Neptune conjunction, which we have read extensively on,
 >but are only now experiencing.

    I originally heard of the significance of this events in other 
    areas, it was only after posting 1802 that Cindy directed me to
    your note discussing this event. I also believe it to be highly
    significant event which hopefully may lead to subtle changes in
    mans collective consciousness. If it is not too much to ask do 
    you have more on this event?

    					Chris
672.164Events from prior Uranus/Neptune conjunctions12116::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Mar 02 1993 15:3552
 Mary,

 Thanks again for your kind words .. we are glad that the Astrology Watch is
 useful for you and others.

 Chris and Marcos,

 I am not sure why Marcos's question of "what happended during previous
 Uranus/Neptune conjunctions" disappeared, but it is an excellent question
 which may help us to understand some possible ramifications of the current
 aspect.  The best answer to this question that we have seen was presented in
 the Feb'93 Mountain Astrologer in an article by Maya del Mar (p.44...).

 It is interesting that the last Uranus/Neptune conjunction also occurred in
 Capricorn in 1821, and thus may be more directly relevant to the current
 conjunction than other previous conjunctions.  This one could be more dramatic
 however, since this is the first time that both Uranus and Neptune are known
 to us during the conjunction (last time only Uranus had been discovered).
    
 From the article .. "Capricorn has much to do with society's structures --
 with such things as government, business, economics, communication,
 transportation, religion, and education."

 The following historical events are mentioned in the article :

 1815-1825
	- Rothschilds center new banking practices in the Bank of England ..
		arguably the start of modern industrial capitalism

 1821	- British government puts Bank of England on the gold standard on
		the _day_ of the Uranus/Neptune conjunction

	- Missouri admitted as a slave state ..
		eventually led to Civil War
 
	- Faraday demonstrates electromagnetic rotation

	- Many Latin American countries achieved independence from Spain
		(may now seek freedom from US domination?)

 1822	- World's first iron railroad bridge completed

 1823	- Monroe Doctrine published

 621	- Islam established during this prior Uranus/Neptune conjunction
		(Islam active in world events now)

 There could be many more examples of far-reaching events which originated
 sometime around 1821.  If any historians are aware of other significant
 events during this time period, it would be interesting to hear about them.

 Todd
672.165MAYES::FRETTSat the turning point...Tue Mar 02 1993 16:147
    
    Other planetary aspects that make this big conjunction year unique 
    are the Saturn/Pluto squares occurring on March 19th, October 8th, 
    and Jan. 1994, the Chiron opposition of Saturn, and the square of
    Jupiter to Uranus/Neptune.
    
    Carole
672.166good to see you home again too :-)VERGA::STANLEYwhat a long strange trip it's beenTue Mar 02 1993 18:304
    Carole... could you tell us a little bit about how you'd interpret
    those aspects?  We'd really appreciate it if you have the time..
    
    mary
672.167physical eventTNPUBS::PAINTERangel pranks, swan songsTue Mar 02 1993 18:476
    
    An astronomer friend told me that this upcoming full moon will be the
    closest that the moon will be to the earth in 80 (or so) years...and 
    the next time will be 80 (or so) years hence. 
    
    Cindy
672.168ERIS::GALE_JSun Mar 14 1993 21:353
    I believe it was actually March 5th that the moon was at its perigree.
    
    Janet
672.169Astrology Watch: New Moon in AriesLMOPST::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Mar 23 1993 14:17293
672.170Astrology Watch: New Moon in TaurusLMOPST::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Apr 22 1993 01:27347
672.171Astrology Watch: New Moon in GeminiLMOPST::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri May 21 1993 20:39259
672.172TNPUBS::PAINTERforever AmberFri May 21 1993 21:486
    
    *Two* 'new Moons' in Gemini...how appropriate!  (;^)
    
    Thanks Todd, as always.
    
    Cindy
672.173VERGA::STANLEYTue May 25 1993 23:111
    Yep.... things are definitely looking up... don't you think? :-)
672.174yep indeed! (;^)TNPUBS::PAINTERforever AmberWed May 26 1993 15:084
    
    *Most* definitely!
    
    Cindy
672.175Astrology Watch: New Moon in Gemini (again)LMOPST::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Jun 21 1993 17:43327
672.176Yeah!AURORA::HARQUAILMagic HappensTue Jun 22 1993 11:459
    
    Todd,
    	I'm so glad you're still here, I was starting to wonder,
    as I waited impatiently for this BLUE MOON rport. As always
    	g;ad your still around and thanks so much for typing in
    	this report.
    
    
    Terry
672.177Astrology Watch: New Moon in CancerLMOPST::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Jul 20 1993 02:09328
672.178Astrology Watch: New Moon in LeoLMOPST::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Aug 17 1993 17:01355
672.179Astrology Watch: New Moon in VirgoLMOPST::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Wed Sep 15 1993 17:44334
672.181questionTNPUBS::PAINTERremembering AmberMon Oct 18 1993 15:228
    
    Todd,
    
    In the interium...what is the date of the Uranus/Neptune conjunction?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Cindy
672.182October 25thVIRTUE::HARQUAILMagic HappensMon Oct 18 1993 18:267
    
    	I'm not Todd ;-), But Cindy I believe it's the 25th of October,
    	in fact I'm pretty sure and it's sometime early in the am like
    	1:xx? But I beleive the impact will be felt much later.
    
    
    	Terry
672.183Astrology Watch: New Moon in LibraLMOPST::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Oct 21 1993 17:27408
672.184Astrology Watch: New Moon in ScorpioLMOPST::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Nov 15 1993 03:12310
672.185If only I could work on this full time ... ;-}LMOPST::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Dec 14 1993 00:507
    I'm sorry folks, but the Astrology Watch is going to be a bit late,
    and probably a bit sparse once I am finally able to type it in.
    
    Too much work to do, and too little time ... hope you understand.
               
    Regards,
    Todd
672.186ZEKE::STARBRIGHTSecurity firstTue Dec 14 1993 01:136
    Thank you, Todd, for all the time you have always taken from your busy
    schedule to keep us all informed. You have nothing to apologize for
    a'tall!
    
    Bright blessings,
    Serenity
672.187MKOTS3::JOLLIMORETis the Season to be JolliTue Dec 14 1993 10:366
	Yup. Thanks from me too.
	I appreciate all the time you've put into this.
	And give my thanks to Lisa also.
	
	Season's Greetings
	Jay
672.188Joy to the world from little t.DWOVAX::STARKThere ain't no sanity clause.Tue Dec 14 1993 12:287
    And thanks from me for the interesting questions and comments I get from 
    people who like and appreciate Todd D.'s astrology reports and don't
    read the banners carefully enough.
    
    :-)
    
    								todd
672.189HOO78C::ANDERSONWhere did all the snow go?Tue Dec 14 1993 12:358
    Re .185
    
   >I'm sorry folks, but the Astrology Watch is going to be a bit late,
    
    Just for a moment I thought that Todd was going to come out with the
    old, "Due to unforeseen circumstances" line.

    Jamie.
672.190TNPUBS::PAINTERPlanet CrayonTue Dec 14 1993 15:164
    
    And another thanks from here too, Todd and Lisa!
    
    Cindy
672.191Watch out ...LMOPST::DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Dec 14 1993 17:0510
    Be careful not to heap too much praise on us when I DON'T deliver,
    or I may be tempted to do it again ;-}
    
    Seriously, though, thanks for all of the kind comments.
    
    I'm off to Washington DC this afternoon.
    Does anyone have any messages for Bill or Hillary ? ;-}
    
    Thanks again,
    Todd
672.192Hic! For Bill and Hillary...(;^)TNPUBS::PAINTERPlanet CrayonTue Dec 14 1993 18:234
    
    Don't overdo on the eggnog...
    
    Cindy
672.193Me too!HYLNDR::HARQUAILMagic HappensTue Dec 14 1993 18:436
    
    todd,
    	 This thanks for all you've done!
    	Enjoy DC!
    
    Terry
672.194Astrology Watch: New Moon in Sagittarius (belated ;-})DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Dec 20 1993 18:32334
672.195Astrology Watch: New Moon in CapricornDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Jan 11 1994 19:39369
672.196Astrology Watch: New Moon in AquariusDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Feb 11 1994 12:48362
672.197Astrology Watch: New Moon in PiscesDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Sat Mar 12 1994 18:33309
672.198Astrology Watch: New Moon in AriesDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Mon Apr 11 1994 18:54328
672.199DSSDEV::LEMENWed Apr 13 1994 21:248
    I just want to say how VERY much I appreciate your entering this
    information every month, Todd & Lisa.  I look forward to it, print it,
    and use it.  I am amazed at how accurate it continues to be.
    
    Thank you for contributing such valuable information.  I love it!
    
    	June Lemen
    
672.200DITTOABACUS::MCCLELLAN_WFri May 06 1994 15:479
    Todd & Lisa:
    
    Let me add my appreciation and ditto on the previous note, also.  Nice
    job.
    
    Thank you.
    
    -Bill
    
672.201Astrology Watch: New Moon in TaurusDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue May 10 1994 20:25310
672.202Astrology Watch: New Moon in GeminiDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Jun 09 1994 16:46323
672.203Astrology Watch: New Moon in CancerDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Sun Jul 10 1994 00:53361
672.204Astrology Watch: New Moon in LeoDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Aug 02 1994 21:16307
672.205September WatchTORREY::CURTIS_LIThu Sep 08 1994 21:5511
    Lisa and Todd,
    
    I have always enjoyed your Astrology Watch Calendar and I've been 
    waiting for September's with baited breath, as it is my birthday
    month (Libra).  Are you still providing this wonderful service?
    
    Hopefully you are still with us at Digital.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Lisa
672.206Sorry for the delay ...DKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Sep 09 1994 14:5610
    Yup, I'm still here.  Sorry this month's Watch is a bit late.
    Actually, I prepared it a few days ago, but I was unable to
    access Dejavu at the time.  Then I spaced it out ... which
    shouldn't have happened with the attention to detail which
    Virgo provides ;-}
    
    Oh well, thanks for your reminder and your comments, and ...
    here it comes!
    
    Todd
672.207Astrology Watch: New Moon in VirgoDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Sep 09 1994 14:58299
672.208Astrology Watch: New Moon in LibraDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Tue Oct 04 1994 15:24305
672.209TNPUBS::PAINTERPlanet CrayonMon Oct 10 1994 15:0612
    
    Todd,
    
    My b'day is on Nov.3rd - same day as the solar eclipse and new moon.  
    I've heard there is significance to this...Mme. Marcia (Butchart) 
    said it would be a time of rebirth.  Any add'l insights you can 
    provide would be appreciated.
    
    Thanks so much to you and Lisa for Astrology Watch.
    
    Cindy
    
672.210upcoming cosmic eventTNPUBS::PAINTERPlanet CrayonMon Oct 31 1994 15:374
    
    Anybody have the EST time range for the solar eclipse on Thursday?
    
    Cindy
672.211ASDG::CALLMon Oct 31 1994 19:491
    Solar Eclipse Nov 3, 1994 8:47 am EST
672.212Dense of SQF PAKORA::JJACKCoca-Cola Red Hot CelticTue Nov 01 1994 11:314
    
    What time is that for us (thick) Brits ?
    
    
672.213Thick Brits?CHEFS::GEORGEM65211::ANNWAT = Dead.Tue Nov 01 1994 12:389
    Just watch Bl**dy "Newsround", they always used to say when an eclipse
    was due.  Either that, or give Patrick Moore a bell.  He may interrupt
    his Xylophone playing for long enough to tell you to p*** o**.
    
    
    
    
    
    Hope this helps.
672.214solar eventTNPUBS::PAINTERPlanet CrayonTue Nov 01 1994 14:337
    
    Thanks, Karey!
    
    Brits in the UK - add 5 hours (I believe, since the Netherlands from
    here is +6) which puts you at 2:47pm (14:47).
    
    Cindy
672.215DaaaaahPAKORA::SWRIGHTUno CoCa Cola PorfavorTue Nov 01 1994 16:064
    Thanks for your easier to understand reply Cindy...   *:@)
    
    
                                    Thicky Yokel of Skeggness.
672.216TNPUBS::PAINTERPlanet CrayonTue Nov 01 1994 21:429
    
    Anytime, TYS!  %(8*)
    
    Heywaitaminutehere!  You have two separate accounts?  One English
    and the other Spanish?
    
    Well...this *is* DEJAVU...
    
    Cindy
672.217Astrology Watch: New Moon in ScorpioDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Thu Nov 03 1994 02:55345
672.218Astrology Watch: New Moon in SagittariusDKAS::DOLLIVERWatching my life go by ...Fri Dec 02 1994 15:42325
672.219Astrology Watch: New Moon in CapricornDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorTue Jan 03 1995 04:05359
672.220Astrology Watch: New Moon in AquariusDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorMon Jan 30 1995 19:01243
672.221Astrology Watch: New Moon in PiscesDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorWed Mar 01 1995 12:40342
672.222Astrology Watch: New Moon in AriesDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorThu Mar 30 1995 19:58365
672.223Astrology Watch: New Moon in TaurusDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorFri Apr 28 1995 16:28307
672.224Astorlogy Watch: New Moon in GeminiDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorFri May 26 1995 19:15280
672.225Astrology Watch: New Moon in CancerDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorThu Jun 29 1995 19:24364
672.226Astrology Watch: New Moon in LeoDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorThu Jul 27 1995 19:49338
672.227Astrology Watch: New Moon in VirgoDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorFri Aug 25 1995 18:42296
672.228Astrology Watch: New Moon in LibraDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorMon Sep 25 1995 15:24300
672.229Astrology Watch: New Moon in ScorpioDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorTue Oct 24 1995 16:59326
672.230Astrology Watch: New Moon in Scorpio (again)DKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorWed Nov 22 1995 16:41309
672.231Astrology Watch: New Moon in SagittariusDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorThu Dec 21 1995 14:05386
672.232Astrology Watch: New Moon in CapricornDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorFri Jan 19 1996 18:55305
672.233Astrology Watch: New Moon in Aquarius (a bit late)DKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorWed Feb 21 1996 17:38310
 			Astrology Watch Calendar
			------------------------
	     From New Moon in  AQUARIUS   on  February  18th 1996
	       to New Moon in   PISCES    on   March    19th 1996

     Planetary positions:   February 18th, 1996
     ==========================================

		   Fire	       Earth	   Air	       Water
		----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
     SUN / MOON                         29Aquarius
     MERCURY                            04Aquarius
     VENUS       11Aries
     MARS                                           02Pisces
     JUPITER                09Capricorn
     SATURN                                         24Pisces
     URANUS                             02Aquarius
     NEPTUNE                26Capricorn
     PLUTO      03Sagittarius
     MOON NNode	                        18Libra

    (See end of note for daily calendar and KEY to terms and abbreviations.)


			Astrology Watch Highlights
			==========================

  The new moon on 18February in Aquarius (fixed air) provides us with
 opportunities to re-establish our involvement with the creative goals of
 groups and organizations, with friends, and with humanitarian interests.
 Aquarius is ruled by Uranus (erratic change) and relates to the 11th house
 concerns of organizations, personal goals and objectives, science, and a
 detached mental outlook.  As a fixed sign, Aquarian energies are stable;
 and as an air sign the energy is expressed through ideas rather than
 through actions (fire), emotions (water), or things (earth).

  Using Aquarian influences individuals can enjoy more positive self-expression
 through scientific, humanitarian, or occult groups.  People also gain a more
 universal perspective on life.  The way to maximize growth during this new
 moon cycle is to condense ideas and thoughts into viable plans for the future
 which are designed for the benefit of all rather than just for ourselves.

 --------------------
 Moon's First Quarter : Sunday 18 February - Tuesday 05 March
 --------------------
			<< Monday    19 February >>
  Today the Sun enters Pisces for a stay until 20March.  The mutable Piscean
 influences (ruled by Neptune) bring a more sensitive and emotional attitude
 compared to the fixed mental expressions of Aquarius.  People may become more
 sensitive, creative, and romantic, and will strive for insights on deeper
 emotional levels.  The following chart highlights this sun-sign transition.
                        Aquarius        Pisces
                        ---------       --------
        Duality         Masculine       Feminine
        Element         Air             Water
        Quality         Fixed           Mutable
        Planet          Uranus          Neptune
        Keyword         'I Know'        'I Believe'
        Polarity        Leo             Virgo
        Body Parts      Shins, Ankles   Feet
        Animals         Large Birds     Fish

  This is a challenging time for creatively transforming the world around us
 as Mars at 03Pisces squares Pluto at 03Sagittarius.  Power struggles and
 disagreements may ensue.  Energy levels are high and this aspect arouses
 ambition, but be careful of arousing opposition in the people you confront,
 because it may be fierce.  Don't act ruthlessly or underhandedly toward
 others no matter how angry you become.  Avoid dangerous places and activities.

			<< Thursday  22 February >>
  Bad feelings are apt to flare up in an open encounter today as the Sun at
 03Pisces squares Pluto at 03Sagittarius.  For this aspect the Sun can represent
 powerful authority figures and Pluto can indicate the emotional eruption of
 hidden grudges.  This is a good day to keep our mouths shut so we don't
 close any doors behind ourselves.

 ---------------------
 Moon's Second Quarter : Monday 26 February - Tuesday 05 March
 ---------------------
			<< Friday    01 March >>
  We should try to expand our abilities to satisfy our own desires today as
 Mars at 12Pisces sextiles Jupiter at 12Capricorn.  We may find that luck is
 with us if we expend the effort to try.  This aspect is excellent for positive
 and optimistic action on new projects.

			<< Saturday  02 March >>
  Our ego drives will get energized as the Sun at 12Pisces sextiles Jupiter
 at 12Capricorn.  With a bit of internal bolstering we can become brimming
 with boisterous self-confidence and optimism.  This aspect can also bring
 good luck, and things planned today should work out well.  It is also a
 good day for group participation activities or philosophical pursuits.

			<< Sunday    03 March >>
  Avoid indulgences and self-pity today as Venus at 27Aries squares Neptune at
 27Capricorn.  Beware of being swept into depression and emotional confusion.
 Watch the road carefully and don't daydream while driving.

			<< Monday    04 March >>
  A real energizer hits us today as the Sun conjuncts Mars at 14Pisces.
 There is a possibility of ego-based over-aggression with this aspect, yet
 athletic prowess is at its height so athletic outlets are highly recommended
 to burn off excess energy.   Otherwise, excess energy may be expressed as
 irritability or arguing, and accidents may result from impulsive or reckless
 actions.  Strong regenerative forces may be available to us, however, and
 initiation of new creative projects is favored.  This aspect may also expose
 our level of satisfaction with our current life situation, and may prompt us
 to change our circumstances or our ambitions.

 --------------------
 Moon's Third Quarter : Tuesday 05 March - Tuesday 12 March
 --------------------
			<< Tuesday   05 March >>
  The full moon occurs this morning with the Moon at 15Virgo opposing the
 Sun at 15Pisces.  This full moon in mutable signs may lead us to be
 emotionally over-sensitive and/or over-critical, yet we should remain
 flexible enough to resolve any problems which arise with this aspect.
  Pluto at 03Sagittarius turns retrograde today until 10August.  For a few
 days while Pluto is essentially stationary but about to turn retrograde it
 can bring out power struggles involving matters of business finances, debts,
 loans, and other major changes which are often irreversible.  Don't cling to
 things which are falling by the wayside.  Try not to react to the inevitable
 destruction of some things by making decisions which preclude future options.
 If it doesn't fit in your life don't blow it up ... blow it out of your life.
  Venus enters its own sign Taurus this evening for a stay until 03April.
 This transit is a pleasant one, and the fixed sign influence can lend
 stability to our love relationships.  Artistry and love are viewed in a
 more possesive and security-minded way, with a more practical and serious
 approach.  Practice, study, and earthy sensuality are favored.

			<< Thursday  07 March >>
 Today Mercury enters Pisces for a stay until it enters Aries on 24March.
 When Mercury is in Pisces (ruled by Neptune) we can become more in touch
 with the hidden sides of our personalities and our unconscious drives, yet
 we are more likely to keep such insights to ourselves.  We are likely to have
 increased concern with spiritual development, and may feel like escaping into
 reclusion to sort out our ideas.  Keeping secrets from others will only
 undermine their confidence in us once the hidden secrets are revealed.

			<< Friday    08 March >>
  We are provided with opportunities to awaken and transform our personal
 religious and philosophical freedom as Uranus at 03Aquarius sextiles Pluto
 at 03Sagittarius.  This aspect is somewhat active throughout this year,
 and is exact today.  This aspect can provide an unyielding focus on
 innovation, and an increased clarity of purpose.  Attempt to direct your
 energies toward longer range goals which are worth achieving, and keep an
 open mind for potentially unexpected solutions to current problems.
  We may seek excitement in love relationships as Venus at 03Taurus squares
 Uranus at 03Aquarius.  Patience is demanded, and Venus in Taurus may be
 able to muster what is required.  Don't flirt too much today or you may
 provoke a major confrontation with someone you love.  Try to keep a lid
 on impulsive spending since the excitement of buying will pass long before
 the bills are paid ;-}.

			<< Saturday  09 March >>
  Our manner of communicating to ourselves and others may undergo challenges
 later today as Mercury at 03Pisces squares Pluto at 03Sagittarius.  Challenges
 may be severe enough to divert us to a new way of thinking about ourselves
 and of communicating to others.  Active and emotional disagreements may ensue,
 yet with both planets in mutable signs, some reconciliation may be possible.
 Our best bet is to accept any criticism from others with a calm and listening
 ear, and then use the feedback to modify our attitudes and behaviors.  While
 this sounds good, we may be more likely to take offense at criticism, or to
 write it off as being totally baseless and fabricated by a lunatic ;-}.

			<< Sunday    10 March >>
  Mercury at 04Pisces sextiles Venus at 04Taurus today.  This mild positive
 aspect may allow us to express our feelings more freely, and to arrive at a
 common understanding of issues with others.

 ---------------------
 Moon's Fourth Quarter : Tuesday 12 March - Tuesday 19 March
 ---------------------
			<< Friday    15 March >>
  We may gain valuable insights into our own personal foundations and sense of
 responsibility today as Saturn at 27Pisces sextiles Neptune at 27Capricorn.
 We may identify practical new methods of responding to emotional commitments,
  We can effectively initiate communications for expansive new projects as
 Mercury at 14Pisces sextiles Jupiter at 14Capricorn.  Favored are
 Piscean projects involving emotional interactions, or Capricorn projects
 focussing on business objectives.

			<< Sunday    17 March >>
  Restrictions or increased responsibilities may weigh heavily upon us today
 and may be sobering or depressing as the Sun conjuncts Saturn at 27Pisces.
 This may also represent a disciplinarian attitude toward using authority.
 Arthritis or joint pain may also kick up and restrict some people's mobility.
 Try to do something practical today, or reconsider long-range plans.
  Our psychic sensitivities will be heightened today as the Sun at 27Pisces
 sextiles Neptune at 27Capricorn.  We may be able to unify many aspects of
 our inner and outer spiritual natures.  While we may feel a bit confused,
 if we apply a little extra effort we may be able to clarify many spiritual
 questions which have been plaguing us for some time.

			<< Tuesday   19 March >>
  We may become romantically inclined today as Venus at 14Taurus trines
 Jupiter at 14Capricorn ... one of the most positive astrological aspects.
 This aspect could enable us to break free of restrictive influences and
 construct a new foundation for our affectional interests.  Venus trine
 Jupiter is also excellent for a bit of redecorating around the home or office.
 Artistic endeavors involving music or art are likely to give you pleasure and
 turn out well due to the great creative potential.  This is a time when we may
 finally receive deserved rewards which were previously earned, and when we are
 likely to demonstrate more benevolence toward others.

  The next new moon is at the end of Pisces on 19March.  Until then ... 
 spend a bit of time charting out your future, yet keep in mind that your
 own plans will work out better if there are inherent benefits for others
 as well as for yourself.

					Lisa and Todd




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	      Moon Cycle Calendar:  February 18th 1996 -  March 19th 1996
	      ===========================================================

	MOON Events       EST   Phase		  OTHER Events
Feb.	==============================  =======================================
S 18	cnj Sun 29Aqu	 6:31p (New)
		v/c	 6:31p
	Pisces		 7:10p
M 19				     ->	Sun enter Pis     4:01a (til 20Mar)
					Mar 03Pis squ Plu 03Sag
T 20		v/c	 3:05p
	Aries		 8:58p
W 21
T 22		v/c	 7:56p		Sun 03Pis squ Plu 03Sag
F 23	Taurus		 2:08a
S 24
S 25		v/c	 4:44a
	Gemini		11:14a
M 26	squ Sun 07Pis 	12:52a (1st )
T 27		v/c	 1:20p
	Cancer		11:10p
W 28
T 29
Mar.
F  1		v/c	 5:25a		Mar 12Pis sxt Jup 12Cap
	Leo		11:47a
S  2					Sun 12Pis sxt Jup 12Cap
S  3		v/c	 6:38p		Ven 27Ari squ Nep 27Cap
	Virgo		11:13p
M  4					Sun 14Pis cnj Mar 14Pis
T  5	opp Sun 15Pis	 4:23a (Full)	Plu 03Sag retro	 11:16a	(til 10Aug)
					Ven enter Tau     9:01p (til 03Apr)
W  6		v/c	 2:59a
	Libra		 8:41a
T  7					Mer enter Pis	  6:53a (til 24Mar)
F  8		v/c	10:43a		Ura 03Aqu sxt Plu 03Sag
	Scorpio		 4:06p		Ven 03Tau squ Ura 03Aqu
S  9					Mer 03Pis squ Plu 03Sag
S 10		v/c	 4:28p		Mer 04Pis sxt Ven 04Tau
	Sagittarius	 9:33p
M 11
T 12	squ Sun 22Pis	12:15P (3rd )
		v/c	 7:51p
W 13	Capricorn	 1:08a
T 14		v/c	10:37p
F 15	Aquarius	 3:15a		Sat 27Pis sxt Nep 27Cap
		v/c	 9:25p		Mer 14Pis sxt Jup 14Cap
S 16
S 17	Pisces		 4:50a		Sun 27Pis cnj Sat 27Pis
					Sun 27Pis sxt Nep 27Cap
T 18
T 19	cnj Sun 29Pis	 5:45a (New)	Ven 14Tau tri Jup 14Cap





		KEY to Astrological Terms and Abbreviations
		===========================================

 --------------		   ----------------------------------------------------
 Planets, ...		   Zodiac Signs     (quality)(element)(house)(ruler)
 --------------		   ----------------------------------------------------
 Sun   Sun		   Ari   Aries       Cardinal  Fire     1st    Mar
 Moo   Moon		   Tau   Taurus      Fixed     Earth    2nd    Ven
 Mer   Mercury		   Gem   Gemini      Mutable   Air      3rd    Mer
 Ven   Venus		   Can   Cancer	     Cardinal  Water    4th    Moo
 Mar   Mars		   Leo   Leo	     Fixed     Fire     5th    Sun
 Jup   Jupiter		   Vir   Virgo	     Mutable   Earth    6th    Mer
 Sat   Saturn		   Lib   Libra	     Cardinal  Air      7th    Ven
 Ura   Uranus		   Sco   Scorpio     Fixed     Water    8th    Plu
 Nep   Neptune		   Sag   Sagittarius Mutable   Fire     9th    Jup
 Plu   Pluto		   Cap   Capricorn   Cardinal  Earth    10th   Sat
 NNo   Moon North	   Aqu   Aquarius    Fixed     Air      11th   Ura
        Node    	   Pis   Pisces	     Mutable   Water    12th   Nep
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Major Aspects
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 cnj	conjunction	  0 degrees	energies in alignment
 sxt	sextile		 60 degrees	mildly harmonious
 squ	square		 90 degrees	discordant, at cross-purposes
 tri	trine		120 degrees	very harmonious
 opp	opposition	180 degrees	opposite, complementary
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Miscellaneous
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 direct  direct		Apparent forward planetary motion (from Earth).
 retro	 retrograde	Apparent reverse planetary motion (from Earth).
 v/c	 void-of-course	Free-floating period between Moon's last major aspect
 			in a sign and ingress into the next sign.  Unexpected
			results from actions or decisions.  Stick to plans, or
			take a needed break; defer major decisions/purchases.
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

672.234Astrology Watch: New Moon in PiscesDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorThu Mar 21 1996 13:19375
672.235Astrology Watch: New Moon in AriesDKAS::DOLLIVERDE Consortium Technical DirectorThu Apr 18 1996 13:33286
			Astrology Watch Calendar
			------------------------
	     From New Moon in   ARIES     on  April   17th 1996
	       to New Moon in   TAURUS    on   May    17th 1996

     Planetary positions:   April 17, 1996
     =====================================

		   Fire	       Earth	   Air	       Water
		----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
     SUN / MOON 28Aries
     MERCURY	            17Taurus
     VENUS				13Gemini
     MARS       19Aries
     JUPITER		    17Capricorn
     SATURN	01Aries
     URANUS				04Aquarius
     NEPTUNE		    27Capricorn
     PLUTO	02Sagittarius                       		*retrograde
     MOON NNode				17Libra

    (See end of note for daily calendar and KEY to terms and abbreviations.)


			Astrology Watch Highlights
			==========================

  The new moon on 17April in Aries (cardinal fire) provides us with an
 opportunity to make a fresh start.  Aries is the astrological new year,
 and thus a time for new beginnings.  Aries is ruled by Mars (desire and
 aggression) and relates to 1st house concerns of ego, independence, new
 ventures, self-awareness and discovery.

  As a cardinal sign, Aries energies are dynamic; and as a fire sign, energy
 is expressed through actions rather than through emotions (water), things
 (earth), or thoughts (air).  Using Aries influences, individuals can enjoy
 competitive sports, new projects, and any activity that requires direct
 assertiveness.  We should guard against over-impulsiveness or being too
 headstrong.  To maximize growth during this new moon cycle initiate changes
 now.  This is a new chance for making New Year's resolutions, so start fresh,
 develop new ideas, explore new options, and try new things.

 --------------------
 Moon's First Quarter : Wednesday 17 April - Thursday 25 April
 --------------------
			<< Wednesday 17 April >>
  The new Moon today is associated with a Solar Eclipse, providing more
 accentuation for this transition to the individual and personal dynamism
 of an Aries Moon cycle.
  We may be in for other challenges today resulting from delusion, dreaminess,
 creativity, or dissipation of energies as the Sun at 27Aries squares Neptune
 at 27Capricorn.  This may inspire some to creative expression, and may instill
 psychic content into relationships, yet it may also create delusional thinking
 with respect to any practical or factual reality orientation.  Drugs or other
 escapist tendencies may be indulged.
  Our mental outlook is looking up today with optimistic viewpoints as Mercury
 at 17Taurus trines Jupiter at 17Capricorn.  This aspect may be accompanied by
 job opportunities for interesting and rewarding work, or promotions.  At this
 time communications are smooth and philosophically minded.  We demonstrate a
 good balance between attention to detail versus grasp of the comprehensive
 view.  Emotional disturbances may improve through relaxation or excercise.
 This aspect is favorable for study, writing, teaching, interacting with the
 communications media, or travel related to philosophy, religion, or education.

			<< Friday    19 April >>
  The Sun enters Taurus (fixed, earth) today for a stay until 20May, ushering
 in the fixed portion of the Spring season.  Plant or transplant your gardens
 now to encourage steady growth, and sow new seeds for hardy development.
 Aries has been rushing out in new directions, now Taurus sets our feet back
 firmly on the ground. The following chart highlights this sun-sign transition.
                          Aries          Taurus
                        ----------      ----------
        Duality         Masculine       Feminine
        Element         Fire            Earth
        Quality         Cardinal        Fixed
        Keyword         'I Am'          'I Have'
        Polarity        Libra           Scorpio
        Body Parts      Head            Neck and Throat
        Animals         Ram             Bull

			<< Wednesday 24 April >>
  We should prepare for and beware of sudden upsets and disruptive situations
 as the Sun at 04Taurus squares Uranus at 04Aquarius.  We desire to break
 down our everyday routines today, yet we may end up taking foolhardy risks
 to do so.  Be extra careful today since we tend to be more accident prone.
 Learn to go with the flow of disruptions, and avoid arguing or you could
 make things worse.

 ---------------------
 Moon's Second Quarter : Thursday 25 April - Friday 3 May
 ---------------------
			<< Saturday  27 April >>
  A major positive aspect between outer planets occurs today as Saturn at
 02Aries trine Pluto at 02Sagittarius.  Saturn in Aries indicates that
 our sense of structure is associated with the first house characteristics
 of pioneering effort and individual responsibility.  Pluto in Sagittarius
 indicates that tendencies to break down and rebuild are applied to our
 philosophies.  This aspect indicates that we can break down old worn-out
 structures to reveal brand new approaches which emerge on more solid ground.
 While these changes may shake some people up, Saturn can stabilize the
 inevitable reformative influences of Pluto.  Some herculean individual
 efforts may provide major benefits for the world as a whole, possibly in
 the area of cures for diseases.

			<< Monday    29 April >>
  Neptune at 27Capricorn turns retrograde today until 06October.  This
 transit accentuates our internal conflicts between dreams versus practicality.
 We need to use and cultivate our imagination even in opposition to practical
 issues, and we need to get our affairs in order.  Many things which have been
 kept concealed for a long time may be exposed as Neptune turns retrograde.
  Our energies may dissipate into a haze today as Mars at 27Aries squares
 Neptune at 27Capricorn.  This can lead to laziness, procrastination, or
 even religious fanaticism.  Our desires can be deluded so don't push them.
  This is an excellent time for practical creativity and our imaginative powers
 as Mercury at 27Taurus trines Neptune at 27Capricorn.  We may achieve harmony
 through creative pursuits, or we may just enjoy daydreaming today.

			<< Thursday   2 May >>
  Mars enters Taurus today until 12June following its recent stay in Aries.
 People may notice a slow-down of all activities since Mars in Aries was quite
 a firecracker, but Mars in Taurus becomes much more stable and can plod
 steadfastly and stubbornly towards longer range goals.  This sign transition
 exemplifies the two characters in the classic story of the tortoise (Mars in
 Taurus) and the hare (Mars in Aries).

 --------------------
 Moon's Third Quarter : Friday 3 May - Friday 10May
 --------------------
			<< Friday     3 May >>
  The Moon is full today, with the Moon at 13Scorpio opposing the Sun at
 13Taurus.  This fixed sign full moon is as stubborn as they get, so any
 conflicts which arise should be stepped around delicately instead of faced
 head-on at this time.  Head-on confrontations will result in head-on
 collisions, with neither party diverting from their original stance.
  On 03May Mercury turns retrograde at 28Taurus until 27May.  This happens
 three to four times a year (4-6 weeks per time), and has some of the most
 noticable effects of any astrological event.  When Mercury is retrograde
 (especially as it turns retro) communication faculties slow down, we become
 more reflective, and communications in general falter.  This does not have to
 be such a negative period so long as you don't try to push..push..push
 everything through.  Try to allow extra time, and be content to let things
 happen at their own pace.  You don't want a tight schedule when Mercury is
 retrograde.
			<< Saturday   4 May >>
  Our expansive tendencies in relationships begins to settle back into a
 period of consolidation today as Jupiter at 17Capricorn turns retrograde
 until 03September.  This is not the best period to buy a new house or
 property, or to build additions onto your current property.  Expansion of
 any kind may not turn out as planned.  Instead, attempt to complete and
 consolidate current efforts in preparation for a new wave of expansion
 beginning in September.

			<< Tuesday    7 May >>
  This should be an optimistic and happy day or two as the Sun at 17Taurus
 trines Jupiter retrograde at 17Capricorn.  With both in Earth signs our
 practical outlook may get quite a boost.  With Jupiter currently retrograde
 we may end up a bit over-extended, but we should still take this aspect and
 run with it!  Throw a party, or at least attend one.  This aspect is also
 favorable for completing home renovations which never quite got finished.

			<< Wednesday  8 May >>
  Uranus turns retrograde today at 04Aquarius until 09October.  During
 this period our organization and self-discipline, though well-meaning, may
 falter.  There is a need to accept practical responsibilities.  If they
 are not dealt with effectively then sudden events may disrupt our life
 which require change and adaptability.
  This is an excellent time for practical creativity and our imaginative powers
 as Mercury at 27Taurus trines Neptune at 27Capricorn.  We may achieve harmony
 through creative pursuits, or we may just enjoy daydreaming today.
  Be careful to avoid accidents with cars or sharp objects today as Mars at
 04Taurus squares Uranus at 04Aquarius.

 ---------------------
 Moon's Fourth Quarter : Saturday 22 April - Saturday 29 April
 ---------------------
			<< Tuesday   14 May >>
  There may be active communications today as the Sun conjuncts
 Mercury at 24Taurus.  With this aspect in Taurus,
 our interactions are likely to be slow and methodical.
 With Mercury retrograde, no matter how slow we go, there is still
 likely to be confusion and misinterpretation.

  The next new Moon occurs in Taurus on May 17th.  Until then ... adopt a
 fresh exploratory Aries attitude to get up and get going in new and
 exciting directions.  Go for it!

					Lisa and Todd



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	      Moon Cycle Calendar:  April 17th 1996 - May 17th 1996
	      =====================================================

	MOON Events       DST   Phase		  OTHER Events
Apr.	=============================  ========================================
W 17	cnj Sun 28Aries	 6:49p (New)	Sun 27Ari squ Nep 27Cap
	 (Solar Eclipse)		Mer 17Tau tri Jup 17Cap
		v/c	 6:49p
	Taurus		10:06p
T 18
F 19				     ->	Sun enter Tau	  3:10p	(til 20May)
S 20		v/c	 1:35a
	Gemini		 5:55a
S 21
M 22		v/c	12:35a
	Cancer		 4:25p
T 23
W 24					Sun 04Tau squ Ura 04Aqu
T 25		v/c	12:12a
	Leo		 4:45a
	squ Sun	06Tau	 4:41p
F 26
S 27		v/c	10:33a		Sat 02Ari tri Plu 02Sag
	Virgo		 4:49p
S 28
M 29		v/c	10:41p		Nep 27Cap retro	  3:23a	(til 06Oct)
					Mar 27Ari squ Nep 27Cap
					Mer 27Tau tri Nep 27Cap
T 30	Libra		 2:27a
May
W  1
T  2		v/c	 8:23a		Mar enter Tau	  2:16p	(til 12Jun)
	Scorpio		 8:43a
F  3	opp Sun 13Tau	 7:48a		Mer 28Tau retro	  6:32p	(til 27May)
S  4		v/c	 9:46a		Jup 17Cap retro	 10:10a	(til 03Sep)
	Sagittarius	12:04p
S  5
M  6		v/c	 5:29a
	Capricorn	 1:54p
T  7					Sun 17Tau tri Jup 17Cap
W  8		v/c	11:53a		Ura 04Aqu retro	 11:27a	(til 09Oct)
	Aquarius	 3:39p		Mer 27Tau tri Nep 27Cap
					Mar 04Tau squ Ura 04Aqu
T  9
F 10	squ Sun 20Tau	 1:04a
		v/c	 1:07p
	Pisces		 6:29p
S 11
S 12		v/c	 6:56p
	Aries		11:01p
M 13
T 14					Mer 24Tau cnj Sun 24Tau
W 15		v/c	 1:24a
	Taurus		 5:25a
T 16
F 17	cnj Sun 27Tau	 7:47a


		KEY to Astrological Terms and Abbreviations
		===========================================

 --------------		   ----------------------------------------------------
 Planets, ...		   Zodiac Signs     (quality)(element)(house)(ruler)
 --------------		   ----------------------------------------------------
 Sun   Sun		   Ari   Aries       Cardinal  Fire     1st    Mar
 Moo   Moon		   Tau   Taurus      Fixed     Earth    2nd    Ven
 Mer   Mercury		   Gem   Gemini      Mutable   Air      3rd    Mer
 Ven   Venus		   Can   Cancer	     Cardinal  Water    4th    Moo
 Mar   Mars		   Leo   Leo	     Fixed     Fire     5th    Sun
 Jup   Jupiter		   Vir   Virgo	     Mutable   Earth    6th    Mer
 Sat   Saturn		   Lib   Libra	     Cardinal  Air      7th    Ven
 Ura   Uranus		   Sco   Scorpio     Fixed     Water    8th    Plu
 Nep   Neptune		   Sag   Sagittarius Mutable   Fire     9th    Jup
 Plu   Pluto		   Cap   Capricorn   Cardinal  Earth    10th   Sat
 NNo   Moon North	   Aqu   Aquarius    Fixed     Air      11th   Ura
        Node    	   Pis   Pisces	     Mutable   Water    12th   Nep
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Major Aspects
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 cnj	conjunction	  0 degrees	energies in alignment
 sxt	sextile		 60 degrees	mildly harmonious
 squ	square		 90 degrees	discordant, at cross-purposes
 tri	trine		120 degrees	very harmonious
 opp	opposition	180 degrees	opposite, complementary
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Miscellaneous
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 direct  direct		Apparent forward planetary motion (from Earth).
 retro	 retrograde	Apparent reverse planetary motion (from Earth).
 v/c	 void-of-course	Free-floating period between Moon's last major aspect
 			in a sign and ingress into the next sign.  Unexpected
			results from actions or decisions.  Stick to plans, or
			take a needed break; defer major decisions/purchases.
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
672.236Astrology Watch: New Moon in TaurusDKAS::DOLLIVERThe Watcher ...Fri May 17 1996 15:41322
672.237Hopefully the Watch has served a purpose ...DKAS::DOLLIVERThe Watcher ...Fri Jun 14 1996 15:5147
  To all who have followed the monthly Astrology Watch postings :

  Unfortunately I will be unable to continue these postings in the future.
 While I expect to still be a Digital employee for a month or so, I will
 then be moving to another position ... hopefully a positive move for me.
 Amazingly I am not being laid-off, even though there have been at least
 two very close calls over the past year.

  I hope that these Astrology Watch postings have served as an appropriate
 introduction to Astrology for many people.  These day-to-day planetary
 aspects and zodiac signs/transits are of special interest to me, while
 my wife Lisa places more emphasis on natal chart analysis, and transiting
 aspects to natal chart positions.  Obviously I would need everyone's natal
 chart to provide this type of interpretation, and although our collection of
 friends' charts is growing significantly, I don't have enough disk space
 at home to store a chart for everybody ;-}

  While I feel that the Astrology Watch material is a reasonable introduction,
 I would like to say that this material is still too general to have direct
 predictive value for everyone.  While Lisa can confront someone who has
 Neptune (confusion) in the 3rd house (siblings) with a question about
 whether their brothers and sisters are not actually their real biological
 siblings (which was true), and many other subtle personal observations,
 this level of specificity is not possible through the Astrology Watch format.

  I will make a final recommendation to all who would like to continue their
 interest in this type of material to subscribe to the Mountain Astrologer.
 This publication has a section which covers essentially the same material
 as has been presented here, and a wealth of other information to boot.
 Oh, and _any_ book by Robert Hand ... we think he is the best around.

  In a prior decision of mine to stay at DEC, DejaVu was a significant
 consideration (along with UFO), as I feel that it is critical to stay
 abreast of all current developments in both areas.  I would like to thank
 all contributors to this Notes file for the varied information which you
 have shared.  It has certainly been appreciated by me!

  I will definitely say another good-bye to DejaVu'ers before I go, and
 fill you in on some of the particulars of my transition.  While it
 seems to be getting a bit quiet in here, I think that the next year or
 two may provide some new and exciting events which could light a fire
 under all of our butts, and spark new areas of exploration for us all.

 Wishing you all well,
 Namasthe,
    
 Todd and Lisa
672.238bye for now, toddBOBSBX::RAMSAYFri Jun 14 1996 18:064
    Todd!  I will certainly miss you, the monthly astrology postings, and
    Lisa.  But I'm sure we'll meet up again!
    
    	*Stella*
672.239ASDG::CALLFri Jun 14 1996 19:179
    Todd,
    
    Thank you for your contribution. I know I have enjoyed the Astrology
    Watch. I already have the magazine you mentioned. Yes it has alot
    of info in it. I hope the move is a positive one for you. Change has
    really been the rule around here. It's happening to alot of us. 
    
    good luck in your new position.
    
672.240dittoTNPUBS::PAINTERPlanet CrayonMon Jun 17 1996 15:5311
    
    Thank you so much for all that you and Lisa have done for us all here 
    over the years, Todd.  
    
    I'm going to definitely miss your contributions.  Your writeups have 
    been so helpful to me, and have provided insights when my life would 
    suddenly turn upside-down for no apparent reason. (;^)
    
    Best to you and Lisa always,
    
    Cindy  
672.241MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREDancing Madly BackwardsTue Jun 18 1996 11:547
	Todd,
	
	I'll miss the Astrology Watch.
	Thanks for all your past entries.
	Best of luck to you.
	
	Jay
672.242Thanks so muchBUNKA::LEMENTue Jun 18 1996 14:006
Todd,

I've really enjoyed astrology and have really appreciated your postings.
Thanks again, and best of everything to you.

	june lemen
672.243Thank youBRAT::MCCLELLAN_WWed Jun 19 1996 13:596
    Thanks Todd for all your efforts.  You have indeed made a worthy 
    contribution.  Best wishes for much happiness and success (however
    YOU define that word).
    
    Peace,
    Bill
672.244WRKSYS::MACKAY_EWed Jun 19 1996 16:436
    
    Thanks for entering the info.
    
    
    
    Eva
672.245for both of you!REGENT::NIKOLOFFSTOP Global WhiningThu Jun 20 1996 20:5812
	Todd, it has been a joy!
	
	Both meeting you and reading the file for all those
	times I was sure the planets went wild........;')

	thanks!!!

	Mikki