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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

568.0. "Explain this one????" by LEDS::OLEARY () Sat Nov 14 1987 01:56

    Here is a strange tale-- My wife and I purchased a home in the city
    we grew up in about 10 years ago.  Neither of us had ever been into
    the house before we bought it.  After a few years we decided to
    do some remodling.  We completely gutted the interior of the house.
    One day we pulled down the ceiling in the dining room.  When we
    did this, we found a piece of paper stappled to the underside of
    the attic floor.  Upon examination of this paper, we found it to
    be an old packing label.  Now here is the weird part:  on this label
    was my wifes maiden name and address where she grew up.  We had
    never done anything in the attic, and this would have gone undetected
    if we had never decided to remodel.  How do you suppose it got there?
    Her parents or family had never been in the house before either.
    Do you suppode we were destined to buying this house??  
    we saved the label, but we have never been able to explain its origin.
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568.1Where is Rod Serling these days?PUZZLE::GUEST_TMPHOME, in spite of my ego!Sat Nov 14 1987 03:0915
        Was it possible someone with your wife's name had lived in the
    same house as your wife (prior to her?)  When was the house built?
    Was it built prior to your wife's birth or after?  IF none of the
    above fits, then I'd say you had a "pretty neat" story.  One
    possibility (and I'm sure others will come up) is that TIME/SPACE
    got confused and the future somehow manifested into the present
    (or past).  According to things that I have heard (and I recognize
    this pushes the beliefs of many to the limits) is that some gnome,
    elf, etc. or maybe just some Astral level entity (former human,
    etc.) plucked it from the past (or present) and placed it where
    you found it.  (Yeah, yeah, I *know* what you all are saying...it
    *is* a possibility, however.)
      
    Frederick
    
568.2CEODEV::FAULKNERYou already read this !Sat Nov 14 1987 14:271
    with the way the U.S. mail works this needs no explanation
568.3WONDERFUL!!YACOMA::VIATEAM4Sat Nov 14 1987 15:3910
    WHAT A WONDERFUL STORY...SOMEHOW I HOPE YOU NEVER SOLVE THE MYSTERY.
    IT INVITES THE IMAGINATION PURCHASE A NEW SET OF WINGS...APPARENTLY
    YOU ARE COMFORTABLE IN THE HOME..WITH NO TIME OR SPACE ALL THINGS
    ARE POSSIBLE..I BET YOU WILL FIND MORE EXPERINCES IN AND AROUND
    YOUR DEWELLING..PERHAPS YOU HAVE TAPPED NEW AND WONDERFUL ADVENTURES
    HOW EXCITING.
    
    MURRAY
    
    
568.4RE 568.1DICKNS::KLAESNobody hipped me to that, dude!Sun Nov 15 1987 15:094
    	Okay, now how did time/space get "confused"?
    
    	Larry
    
568.5SPIDER::PAREWhat a long, strange trip its beenSun Nov 15 1987 19:023
    To answer that Larry, one must ask Okay, now *what is* time/space.
    
    Mary
568.6Other questions.PBSVAX::COOPERTopher CooperMon Nov 16 1987 13:3926
RE: .4
    
    Perhaps the right question is "How did Time/Space get unconfused
    most of the time?"   I know that this sounds flip, and I have stated
    it rather informally (stating it formally would require a fairly hefty
    research project in mathematical physics), but I really do think that
    it is a "deep" question whether or not the incident in .0 was caused by
    a "glitch" in the "process" (in quotes because a process cannot by
    definition be atemporal) by which time/space becomes ordered.
    
RE: .0
    
    With the information at hand the only explanation I can offer is
    "outragious coincidence."  If I was going to describe it in
    parapsychological terms, I would have to call it an unusual spontaneous
    PK manifestation, but that's a label not an explanation.  Before
    I would put that label on the incident (i.e., before I would accept
    a paranormal explanation as likely) I would have to know a LOT more
    information -- the detailed history of the house, how you came upon
    the house, and a precise description of how the note was found.
    Even then, I would not be able to rule out coincidence.
    
    Great story though -- and unlike most great stories, you have a
    souvenir.
    
    					Topher
568.7Here's my guessSHARE::SSMITHMon Nov 16 1987 14:089
    How about something being delivered to your wife (before marriage),
    at the home where she grew up. The packing crate get's discarded.
    Someone in the building business, or the owner of that house doing
    some home imporvements picks up the discarded crate, breaks it down,
    and uses it for flooring in the attic (shipping label and all).
    
    Not very exciting, but I'd bet a few bucks on it.
    
    Steve
568.8One of several plausible possibilities.PBSVAX::COOPERTopher CooperMon Nov 16 1987 14:186
RE: .7
    
    I would class that with "outrageous coincidence".  How outrageous
    depends on some of the additional information I was speaking of.
    
    					Topher
568.9Date CoincidenceSEINE::RAINVILLEThe best view is close to the edgeMon Nov 16 1987 14:215
    While insulating the attic crawl space of our cottage, I found an
    old newspaper published on 6 Oct 1951, my wife's birthday. Seemed
    and odd coincidence...Headline was "FIRST H-BOMB TEST IN PACIFIC"
    							MWR
    
568.10more infoLEDS::OLEARYTue Nov 17 1987 00:594
    I agree that perhaps that someone had possibly discarded an old
    packing crate, but I guesss the coincdence is that we should end
    up buying this particular house, of all the houses in the world.
    Also, nobody with my wifes name ever owned the house before us.
568.11BUMBLE::PAREWhat a long, strange trip its beenTue Nov 17 1987 13:082
    Thats a little too bizarre a coincidence for my taste...  The odds
    of that happening must be pretty remote.   
568.12do-do-do-do do-do-do-do do-do-do-doGRECO::MISTOVICHWed Nov 18 1987 20:192
568.13od-od-od-od-od od-od-od-od-odPUZZLE::GUEST_TMPHOME, in spite of my ego!Wed Nov 18 1987 20:438
    For anyone entering this conference for the first time, you will
    note (using -.1 as an example,) the highly polished skills of the
    individuals here.

                                   
    :-)     :-)
    Frederick