Conference hydra::dejavu

333.0. "More than just friends" by ORION::HERBERT (Thinking is the best way to travel.) Fri Mar 13 1987 18:38

A close friend and I have had some interesting dreams about each other 
that I would like to share and get comments on, or hear similar
experiences.

First, a little about us:  My friend's name is Irene.  We've been close, 
but very respectful of each other's individuality, for the 6 years we've 
known each other.  We are very different, and yet, there is something 
very common.  We both feel that there is a strong bond between us, that 
extends beyond this lifetime.  This feeling became stronger as a result 
of some of our dreams involving each other.  We seem to know each other 
better than other people who are close to us.  We're quite satisfied just 
having each other in our lives and we've not gone looking for any 
answers to these feelings.  Although we're at opposite ends of the
country now, we recently had a conversation in which we discussed that
we're just happy to be on the planet at the same time.  

I'm going to share the three dreams that seemed to be the most intense 
regarding the two of us.  They all happened within a period of a year 
or two, when we saw each other fairly frequently, and we were both
living in California.  Our dreams seemed to take on more meaning, and 
be of more interest to us, several years after they occured.

Dream 1:

  I dreamed that it was the end of the world.  The Earth was about to
  be destroyed.  Everyone was in a great panic and people were going 
  wild; running in the streets, driving in their cars, as if they had
  to hurry somewhere, anywhere at all.  Many people were under the
  impression that there were certain locations they could go to, where
  they would be led to safety.  Irene and I were together in my car,
  and traffic was awful. (Typical of California :^)  
  
  The scene was getting horrible.  There was one long tunnel we had to 
  go through in which many dead bodies were strewn about because people 
  were killing each other, and running over each other in their mad 
  frenzy to drive to their destination.  (Later, Irene told me that
  this sounded very much like a book she was reading "The Stand" by
  Stephen King.  I don't know, I've never read it.)

  Irene and I were not going to one of the designated locations.  We 
  knew that our point of safety was somewhere else.  I did not know 
  where I was going, but I knew how to get there.  The panic of not 
  getting there in time was increasing rapidly.  When we reached there, 
  what we saw was simply a long line of cars waiting to go through a 
  small ranger station.  There was a sign on the ranger's station that 
  said "Full".  Although I was very surprised at the long line of cars 
  at this particular station, I was only mildly alarmed by the "Full" 
  sign.  I had a feeling that it didn't matter, and that my only 
  concern had been to get there.  

  As we got closer to the ranger station, I noticed no cars were behind 
  me...and time had almost completely run out (the end was near!).  We 
  pulled up to the ranger's station, and the ranger looked at us
  questioningly.  We both sat there, feeling a great deal of fear, 
  waiting for him to say something awful...like "go away".  We knew
  that our ultimate safety lie just ahead if he would let us go.  The
  ranger smiled and said, "Ah yes, you have a reservation...go ahead."  
  We felt so relieved...we knew we'd made it.
  [End of dream]

Dream 2:

  I won't be able to relate this dream as well because it was Irene's.
  She dreamed that I came and got her and led her to the ocean.  I
  took her hand and started walking into the water.  She followed, but
  when we got shoulder deep, or so, she became very scared.  I told her
  not to worry and continued walking.  As our heads began to go under
  the water, Irene held her breath but then she noticed that I was
  breathing normally and I told her that she could breathe under water.  
  She was surprised to discover that this was true.  I led her to an 
  underwater city.  It was beautiful.  People were living there, but 
  they seemed to be more advanced.  We had a wonderful time and Irene 
  wanted to go back and tell everyone about the city.  We were going to 
  stay there.

Dream 3:  (This is my favorite)

  I dreamed I was sitting in a very large field/clearing surrounded by
  mountains.  It was very peaceful.  There were flowers all around, and
  it was bright and beautiful.  I noticed that I was wearing a very thin,
  filmy gown of some sort.  It was very comfortable.  As I started to
  wonder about the situation I was in, I noticed a horse coming towards
  me in the distance.  As it got closer, I saw that the horse was white,
  and that someone was riding it.  When it was very close, I saw that the
  rider was wearing a thin, flowing gown...was a female...and then I saw
  it was ME!  Immediately I turned my attention back to the person 
  sitting on the grass because I had thought THAT was me...it was Irene!
  Then I thought, "Oh, I was seeing things along with Irene..." and that
  seemed a very normal thing.

  Without getting off of the horse, I told Irene it was time to come.
  She got up on the horse with me, and we rode back in the same direction
  and eventually came to a small village.  Several people were walking
  around dressed in these thin, filmy garments.  The male garments were
  short and wrapped around their waist.  The female garments were like
  simple gowns.  Every one of the people was totally perfect in form.
  They all looked different, but their bodies were perfectly built.
  Everyone was very happy and peaceful.  Everything looked illuminated.

  Irene and I got down off the horse, and...I've forgotten what happened
  during this time.  But within a short time, Irene and I were talking
  and she was asking me where she was and what was happening.  I told
  her that she was not on Earth, and that these people were deciding
  whether she was ready to become one of them.  If so, she would be 
  staying.  If not, she would go back to Earth.  The dream ended with 
  us looking into each other's eyes, waiting to hear.  I felt very 
  connected to her.

When I told Irene about this dream, she was very caught up in it...as
if she could really feel it.  In fact, she was quite disappointed that I 
hadn't dreamed what the answer was.  I was surprised that she had so much
interest in this dream.  I really expected she would laugh it off.

We've had many other dreams about each other...in situations where one
would expect that we would dream about someone else close to us.  The 
reason I am sharing these dreams and feelings is because I'm interested if 
any readers of this notesfile have interesting comments about this, or
have had similar experiences with themselves and one particular person?

Jerri

    One possibility is that you have known each other before in other
    lifetimes.When i first met Diane we both felt a very strong feeling
    that we had known each other for a long time.We have found out that
    we spent many lifetimes together and are also soul mates.It is such
    a good feeling to have.I have always felt like something was missing
    in my life.There was an emptiness.After i met Diane it is no longer
    so.
    
                                                 MIKE
    

    RE .0:
    
    It might be helpful to read the note on soulmates, as there are
    several kinds.  You and your friend could be the same entity, in
    a way, or one that is splitting, and has gone far enough to incarnate
    into two bodies, yet with a tie.
    
    Elizabeth
    

    Re: .2
    
    I haven't been able to find the note on soulmates...is there one?
    I've seen one on Twin Essences, but there's not any information
    in there.  If there is a note on soulmates, perhaps it is under
    an unusual title?  Can someone help out here?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jerri

Jerri, have you tried note 77? The info is there, though sparse. I would
like to hear more about what circumstance would cause a soul to split.

-Perry

    I JUST ADDED THIS ENTRY TO MY NOTEBOOK TODAY, AND THIS WAS THE FIRST
    NOTE I READ: HOW EERIE!  I HAD A DREAM A FEW YEARS AGO THAT REALLY
    STUNNED ME, MOSTLY BECAUSE IT WAS SO VERY VIVID.  I CALLED MY MOTHER
    AND DESCRIBED THE DREAM TO HER, AND WELL,....
    
    IN THE DREAM, I WAS IN THE LIVING ROOM OF A HOUSE WITH MY MOTHER,
    MY FATHER, MY FATHER'S PARENTS, AND A PRIEST.  AS I DESCRIBED THE
    DREAM TO MY MOM, I EXPLAINED THE LAY-OUT OF THE HOUSE.  I WAS IN
    THE LIVING ROOM, THE KITCHEN AND DINING ROOM WERE TO THE FRONT OF
    THE HOUSE, AND THERE WAS A STEP-UP TO THE DINING ROOM, THE BEDROOMS
    AND THE BATHROOM WERE TO THE REAR OF THE HOUSE.  ANYWAY, IN THE
    DREAM, MY FATHER AND GRANDFATHER WERE ARGUING ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL
    ELECTION, WHETHER KENNEDY OR NIXON WOULD WIN.  I KEPT TRYING TO
    TELL THEM THAT KENNEDY WOULD, AND THAT THEY SHOULD PROBABLY CONSIDER
    VOTING FOR SOMEONE OTHER THAN NIXON IF HE EVER RAN AGAIN, BUT NO
    ONE WOULD LISTEN TO ME.  IT WAS AS IF I WEREN'T EVEN THERE.  THE
    PRIEST CAME IN WITH A HUGE CHOCOLATE CAKE, AND MY GRANDMOTHER CUT
    IT AND SERVED IT TO EVERYONE.  THEN, I WOKE UP.
    
    WELL, THE STRANGE BIT ABOUT THIS DREAM IS THAT IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
    MY MOTHER TOLD ME ON THE PHONE THAT THIS CONVERSATION ACTUALLY TOOK
    PLACE, THE HOUSE WAS EXACTLY AS I HAD DESCRIBED IT, AND I WAS PRESENT
    AT THE TIME. 
    
    MY MOTHER TOLD ME THAT AT THAT TIME, SHE WAS THREE MONTHS PREGNANT
    WITH ME.
    
    MAYBE THIS SHOULD HAVE GONE ON ANOTHER NOTE, BUT I'M STILL NEW TO
    DEJAVU, AND I'M SORRY IF I TOOK UP THE WRONG SPACE.
    
    ROBIN
    

    Re: .5
    
    Hi Robin...welcome to this notesfile.  I find your story very
    interesting!  I was told a story once, and although the exact
    details will probably be a little "off", I'll try to relate it
    as best as possible...
        
    There was a couple expecting a baby, and I believe the couple
    could speak French as well as English.  Their doctor was French,
    and there were several occassions when the doctor would say
    "Breathe in...breathe out" (in French) to the expectant Mother.
    After the child was born, the parents used English as their
    language.  They were very surprised when the child was learning
    to speak and said, "Breathe in...breathe out" -- in French!	

    Jerri

    	You realize what implications this can have about whether or
    not a fetus is a human being....
    
    	Larry
    

    It's been known for some time that children are born being able
    to recognize their mother's voice -- presumably learned in the womb.
    
RE: .7
    
    It certainly raises issues, but even if we say that what *seems*
    to be happening in these cases *is* happening, this determination
    is still not clear.  It is not in dispute that, after a certain
    age, a fetus has a nervous system, can hear, can see, etc.  A parrot
    can learn to repeat a phrase often repeated and we would not want
    to say that that makes the parrot human.
    
    Confusing the issue further are stories, some of them *very* well documented
    of children being able to tell things in great detail which happened
    to someone who died before they were born.  Do a search for "Stevenson"
    for the citations of some scholarly research in this area.
    
    					Topher    

    I'm profoundly 'imprinted' with a Polish-language experience from
    birth upwards, tho I grew up speaking very little of it. Obviously
    my maternal influence pre/post birth. Only in later years have both
    French & German become familiar, tho I've only studied French. Both
    relate to previous-lives I later regressed to briefly (under guidance).
    What my 'self-image' is, therefore, is a sum, once known as such.
    
    -Boleslaw