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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
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Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
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320.0. "OOBE READINGS??" by NCCSB::CONVISER () Fri Feb 27 1987 19:11

    I've just finished THE ASTRAL JOURNEY and prior to that Monroes
    second book.  Can anyone suggest more good reading on oobe's?.
                                                                 
    Thanks...sam
    
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320.1A different perspective.PBSVAX::COOPERTopher CooperFri Feb 27 1987 21:3470
    For a rather different, and broader, perspective I recommend *Beyond
    The Body* by Susan Blackmore.  I don't agree with everything that
    Dr. Blackmore concludes (as a matter of fact, we've had several
    rather pleasent debates, both by correspondence and in person) but
    her scholarship and presentation are outstanding.  It is her view
    (and not her original one I might add -- so her prejudices are not
    the usual ones) that the OBE (as I've said elsewhere the abbreviation
    OOBE is incorrectly formed and now rarely used) is a *psychological*
    phenomena rather than a *paranormal* one (actually I agree with
    her there, its in some details and extensions that we disagree).
    
    I'll quote part of the review of the book that appeared in the January
    1984 Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research (review
    is by Carlos Alvarado):
    
    "BEYOND THE BODY: AN INVESTIGATION OF OUT-OF-THE-BODY EXPERIENCES"
    by Susan J. Blackmore.  London: Published on behalf of the Society
    for Psychical Research by Heinemann. 1982 North Pomfret, VT: David
    and Charles, 1983, Pp. xv + 271. $18.00 (cloth).
    
    "'Beyond the Body' is one of  a series of books published by Heinemann
    'on behalf of the Society for Psychical Research' to commemorate
    the Society's centenary.  Its purpose is to review 'what the SPR
    and others have learned [about OBEs] in those 100 years' (p 8).
    
    "Basic descriptions and a definition of OBEs are presented in the
    first two chapters.  Blackmore describes her own OBE, an experience
    which provides her with a valuable inside view of this  phenomenon.
    She defines an OBE as 'an experience in which a person seems to
    perceive the world from a location outside his physical body' (p.
    1). an experiential definition close to that proposed by Green (1968)
    and Palmer (1974).
    
    "Int the third chapter, 'The Doctrine of Astral Projection,' the
    concept of subltel bodies is presented in detail, and the author
    makes clear that she regards such explanations for an OBE as
    inadequate; she discusses this later in the book in more detail.
    
    "Chapters 4 and 5 review the accounts of subjects who have described
    frequent voluntary OBEs in detail, such as Sylvan Muldoon, Oliver
    Fox, Yram, and others, giving adequate general sumaries of this
    material.
    
    "In Chapters 6, 7 and 9 spontaneous case collections and surveys
    are reviewd, giving the reader a more detailed view of OBE
    phenomenology, frequency and other variables than was presented
    at the beginning of the book. . . .
    
    "Other interesting chapters are concerned with OBEs in other cultures
    (Chapter 8), methods of OBE induction (Chapter 10), and lucid dreams
    (Chapter 11).
    
    "Death experiences are covered in two chapters: 'Visions of the
    Dying' (Chapter 13) and 'Close Encounters with Death' (Chapter 14)..."
    
    There's a lot more to the review.  Including criticisms of Dr.
    Blackmore's conclusions, and some mention of what is left out. 
    Nevertheless, this is *the* book to read, if you want to find out
    what is actually known about OBEs, as opposed to the perspective
    of a single individual (who is automatically subject to telling
    you about him/her-self rather than universals of the experience).
    It is also a good presentation of one of the psychological theories
    of the OBE, by someone who does not reject paranormal explanations
    out-of-hand.  I recommend it even for its information content even
    if you are strongly committed to a "astral projection" theory of
    the experience.
    
    I will mail a copy of the complete review to anyone who requests it.
    
    					Topher
320.2u want books, here's 2 for ya !WORM::ACKLEYALANFri Mar 13 1987 19:535
    Try "Practical Astral Projection" by Yram  (a pseudonym)
    Also books by John Lily on sensory deprivation experiences relate
    a lot to projection.  Try "Simulations Of God".
    
    Alan.
320.3Or is there some peverse symbolism here?ERASER::KALLISHallowe'en should be legal holidayMon Mar 16 1987 11:107
    Re .2:
    > ... by Yram  (a pseudonym) ...
    
    Some pseudonym!  Read it backwards.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
320.4Is it live or is it memory?KRYPTN::JACOBSFri Mar 20 1987 19:305
    Monroes book mentions a tape his foundation developed which is supposed
    to help induce OOBE's. Has anyone found a source for the tape?
    
    Paul
    
320.5go to the sourceMILRAT::KEEFEFri Mar 20 1987 20:1310
    RE .4   That tape and others are available directly from:
    
    The Monroe Institute
    P.O. Box 175
    Faber, VA  22938
    
    or call (804) 361-1252

    
    	- Bill Keefe
320.6Cross reference for more information.PBSVAX::COOPERTopher CooperMon Mar 23 1987 14:385
RE: .4 and .5
    
    More information can be found in note 44.7.
    
    					Topher