Conference hydra::dejavu

                                 Neat Stuff!
    
    Sounds like a real OOBE, possibly with past life ties or perhaps
    multi-dimensional leaking.  I love it when stuff like this happens
    to me.
    
    My best explaination would be that you have had a wonderful multi-life
    experience.  Just what is that you say? 
    
    Well it appears to me from my 20+ OOBEs that when we depart the
    body we enter into a different realm where the actions, desires,
    and dreams of entities are carried out as if they were in "real
    time".  
    
    Incidently mine always have mutliple stages just as your does. My
    best guess is that the change of stages is through a domain/s that
    we are unable to bring back any data from.  A _migration_ of
    consciousness between different islands of consciousness across
    unexplainably dark voids (dark meaning unknown).
    
    Included in your experience is a "walk in" experience.  My walkins
    usually involve an entity that is unable to fend off outside influence.
    
    Perhaps the shaman was taking the spirit of the Commanche to a dreaded
    place, to cause more suffering since Indians thought the white man
    was an animal and not human.
    
    In the alternative it could be that the poor Indian (an assumption)
    was a splinter of your own entity and not complete in itself.  The
    shaman then returned that power back to you. 
                                                                  
    There is lots of great stuff that this will lead too.  Enjoy!
    
      Mikie?
                                

    Hello all,
       This is my first entry to this file and I belive alot of the
    things discussed here.
    the dreams I have been having lately were not waking to a room full
    of anything (not to be takin as being made fun of..just don't know
    how to explan it)mine centered around gunfights (very very detailed)
    ie:seeing bullets flying towrds me,hearing the bullet hit etc.
    one in particular was about 2 months ago.
    I don't know how it started but I was in a green car with blue int
    cars driver on other side of city street was about 6' tall blonde
    hair w/gotee beard jeans brown cowboy boots w/eagles on outside
    edges of boots,some words were exchanged (can't remember excatly
    butviolent)he fired one shot from a long barreled revolver it was
    like as he fired a zoom happened and I could see muzzle flash bullet
    exiting barrel I ducked behind door heard bullet hit I pulled a
    gov't .45 (I don't like .45's)but fires back (exactly same detail)
    we exchanged 3 shots each my fourth hit him in left shoulder about
    2"above pocket I could see bullet enter bllod start to flow he was
    moved back by hit I stood took 4 steps foward took 2 more shots
    (I will not go into much more detail) ran over to him looked down
    seen he was dying some guy was coming out of grocery store and told
    him to call an ambulance I was a federal officer.
    then woke up(not infront of tv waching miami vice)
    what struck me about the 3-4 dreams I've had was the exacting detail
    also waking up to a bed soaking wet w/ own sweat.
    any ideas,comments etc..???
    
    
    

    Couple of questions:
    
    1) Did you feel the pain while being jabbed (speared) while in your
    Amerind persona?
    
    2) Did your research help you after you woke up?
    
    This might be an OOBE; it might also be a case of a "racial" memory
    from the collective mind (an alternative to the reincarnation theory
    I've mentioned elsewhere).
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    

< Note 251.3 by INK::KALLIS "Support Hallowe'en" >


    
>   1) Did you feel the pain while being jabbed (speared) while in your
>   Amerind persona?

    Yes: on reflection after the event I was surprised I didn't wake  up 
    after  this  moment.   One extreme possibility is that my spirit was 
    trapped in the amerind and I couldn't wake up, and  that  the  final 
    part  of  the dream was the shaman correcting this problem (in which 
    case I'm real grateful to him).
    
>   2) Did your research help you after you woke up?

    Yes: actually I have long been a student of early american  peoples, 
    but have never dreamed about them before. I was wondering whether my 
    interest in the amerindians caused the dream, or whether a  previous 
    existance (or racial memory) caused my current interest. However one 
    point of significance is this: I  actually  censored  the  dream  as 
    reported  (this  is  a  "family audience" as it were, and the actual 
    details of the torture are not really for the squeemish...)  However 
    this  was  an aspect I had never studied.  I had no knowledge of the 
    actual methods used by the various amerindian tribes. I went down to 
    Boston  and  looked up some books covering the proabable tribes -- I 
    found  that  the  methods  used  where  typical   of   the   Apache. 
    Specifically the combination of torture by the women (who do most of 
    it) and finally by the braves "counting coup" before delivering  the 
    coup  de  grace (a weak victim who shows cowardice is handed back to 
    the women to be finished off). This also dates the experience to the 
    Apache - Comanche conflicts of the early 19th century I think.
    
    In  general  I  was impressed by dreaming in detail something that I 
    had not previously studied.
    
    /. Ian .\
    
    

    Re .4:
    
    That suggests _strongly_ a racial memory (or possibly "past life,"
    though I'm still skeptical on that) because an ordinary dream would
    certainly not transmit pain.
    
    That there were additional details that you encountered adfter the
    dreams is also significant.  There are more ways to guess wrong
    than right.
    
    I hope you commit the whole thing to paper (or disk) in as precise
    detail as possible while it's still fresh in your memory.  Then
    turn your attention to other things, and look ast it about a month
    after you write it.  You may get further insights.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    

    	Does one have to have been descended from a certain culture in
    order to have a "racial memory" (reincarnation?) about such events?
                 
    	Larry
    

    There are two hyoptheses on "racial memory."  One is that the "memory"
    is that of one's ancestors, up to the moment of conception of the
    next ancestor.  If this holds, then any "memory" would be inherited,
    and to the extent that one comes from a specific genetic heritage,
    that's where the memories would be drawn from.
    
    The other hypothesis is that there's something on the order of a
    telepathic "connection" throughout humanity, and all "memories"
    are kept there in a common pool.  On that basis, you might consider
    that there's a network hookup between people and that scattered
    among them is a virtual storage of milennia of human experiences.
    The "past life" experiences and certain dreams would then come from
    this common pool.
    
    Personally, I lean towards this second hypothesis.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    

    The third hyopthesis [sic] is that "racial memory" doesn't exist.
    I strongly favour this hypothesis.  We read/hear so much from such
    a young age that it is totally impossible to distinguish something
    you encountered in passing 20 years ago from "racial memory".  To
    invoke such implausible explanations for something that can easily
    be explained as a combination of imagination and long-"forgotten"
    memories badly violates Occam's Razor.
    
    {Bevin

    	Pardon me, but what is Occam's Razor?
    
    	Larry
    

    Re .9:
    
    Occam's Razor is a philosophical principle that says if there are
    more than one explanation proposed for a phenomenon or phenomena,
    the simplest (or least complex) is the most likely to be the correct
    one.  It's highly useful.
    
    Re .8:
    
    The hypotheses stated are presuming the existence of a racial memory.
    Obviously, if there isn't one, neither hypothesis is accurate.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    

>    Re .9:
>    
>    Occam's Razor is a philosophical principle that says if there are
>    more than one explanation proposed for a phenomenon or phenomena,
>    the simplest (or least complex) is the most likely to be the correct
>    one.  It's highly useful.


   Just out of curiosity, why did ol' Oc call this a "razor," Steve ?    

    Re .11:
    
    Apparently because it was supposed to trim off all the extranious;
    "cutting to the heart of the matter," so to speak.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    

RE: .10:

>    Occam's Razor is a philosophical principle that says if there are
>    more than one explanation proposed for a phenomenon or phenomena,
>    the simplest (or least complex) is the most likely to be the correct
>    one.  It's highly useful.

I beg to differ. Occam's Razor doesn't address correctness, only how to
proceed in a situation of uncertainty. The more complex explantion could
still be correct, but Occam's Razor says if you don't know and have to make
an assumption assume the simplest thing, then later on if you find out the
truth you have the smallest amount of philosophical re-work to do.

Stated another way, it's merely the KISS principle: Keep It Simple, Stupid.

    I intend  to  follow  Steve's  suggestion:  I have a [very] detailed 
    version of the dream material written down.  I will come back to the 
    matter after Christmas.
    
    /. Ian .\

RE: .13
    
    The exact "meaning" of Occam's Razor is a matter of "hot" philosophical
    debate.
    
    One interpetation is the simple common sense meaning stated by Don,
    which boils down to "If you have two theories which make exactly
    the same predictions (or have exactly the same consequences) why
    waste your time with the more complicated one?"
    
    A variation (actually a bit closer to Don's) is that if you have
    two theories which may in principle be distinguished but which both
    fit the data you have, then keep the simpler as your "working"
    hypothosis until you have data to the contrary.  Again, common sense,
    but everyone needs to be reminded to use common sense every now
    and again.
    
    Most scientists believe (whether they say so or not -- they act
    as if they believe it) in something sometimes called the Principle
    of Parsimony.  The PofP can be stated, basically, as "Nature is
    stingy".
    
    Many physical laws are stated directly as "minimizing the Hamiltonian".
    The Hamiltonian is simply some quantity which is to be minimized.
    That is, to state a law in this way one finds a quantity which is
    minimized and call it "the Hamiltonian".
    
    Example -- Crystals take the specific form that they do because
    that form, and no other, minimizes the amount of energy needed to
    hold it together under the conditions under which it formed.  The
    "energy needed to hold it together" is the Hamiltonian.
    
    Example -- Einstein predicted that light-beams would bend in a
    gravitational field "because" they would travel in the path that
    would make their "time of flight" shortest (I'm simplifying here).
    Because gravity makes time go slower that path would not appear
    to be a "straight line" in the standard sense of the word.  The
    "time of flight" is the Hamiltonian.
    
    Because of the PofP, there is a general belief in the version of
    Occam's Razor that Steve stated -- that if you want to bet between
    two theories as to which is going to turn out to be more correct,
    bet on the simpler one.  Scientists will generally bet on the simpler
    theory even if there are some facts which don't work with it --
    they will bet that those apparent facts will prove to be in error.
    
    The only problem is defining what "simpler" means.  For most theories
    it includes how it fits in with other theories and how confident
    you are about the reliability of various facts (generally any two
    competing theories will both have facts which contradict them to
    a certain extent).  This is why scientists argue about things.
    
    				Topher

    I'm sooo glad someone brought up the subject of dying in a dream.
    
    I'll lay the following background information before preceding into
    my particular experience.  I worked as a horse trainer for a farm
    in my area and kept having a re-occuring dream that I was going
    to have a bad accident jumping a certain horse over a certain fence.
    After falling, I was unconscience and "numb".  An ambulance was
    called and the EMT's worked on me to no avail.  The bizzare part
    is that I "watched" the whole thing from outside my body.  I remember
    the EMT's announcing that I was dead and trying to shout to them
    that I wasn't.  The dream was absurd since there was no such horse 
    on the farm, nor had I ever had a bad experience jumping horses over 
    the jump that was showing up in my dream.
    
    You guessed it.  Months later, I was jumping a young horse over
    the fence in my dream and she "crumbled" underneath me, fell, and
    pinned me under herself for quite some time.  Although I had some
    semi-serious injuries, since I'm here, they did not prove to be
    fatal.  Ironically, the horse matched the one in my dream perfectly
    (strange color markings) but since I had long forgotten the dream,
    I never made the connection until it was too late.
    
    I just wanted to say that the author of .0 is not alone in dreaming
    death...and I'm glad to know I'm not alone either.
    
    Ann

    Re .16:
    
    How did the horse make out?  It was a "she," too. ...
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    

    re .17
    
    The horse was fine.  Such a sweetie...the people who found me said
    that she was standing next to me, just looking at me.  She suffered
    nothing more than minor scrapes and bruises.  
    
    Ann

    	You don't suppose that the dream was so ingrained into your
    subconcious mind that you somehow unconciously "triggered" the accident
    to happen?
    
    	Larry
    

    Re .19
    
    I do not discount the idea that I may have subconciously caused
    my own accident, but a couple of things still ring odd.  1)  The
    horse that I was riding during the accident was not in the barn
    at the time I dreamed of her.  She had some very distinctive color
    characteristics that made me "know" it was the same horse.  2) The
    horse literally crumbled underneath me.  She didn't trip, fall,
    slide or do anything that the rider (me) could have contributed
    toward.  She just didn't land on her legs.
    
    Although I have had other "deja vu" experiences, I actually relayed
    the story because I originally dreamt my death...something that
    most people don't have a recollection of having done.  

    It is said that each person chooses the time and circumstances
    of their death.  I wonder if perhaps you were "reviewing" a 
    possible death, and deciding whether it was time to take that
    particular "path", or if you had more lessons to learn?
    
    

    	Another thought is perhaps you "transmitted" your subconcious
    feelings to the horse without knowing it, and the horse reacted.
    Animals can sense human feelings which we may not show externally,
    or even be aware of.
    
    	To further explain this, so that it doesn't sound like I repeated
    myself, I am not saying that your physically twitched or moved due
    to your subconcious and thereby set off the horse's reaction - I
    am saying the horse actually picked up on your mental impressions
    through extremely subtle/empathic channels.
    
    	Of course your premonition concept is just as valid - I simply
    want to check all the possibilities before some conclusion is reached.
                                                           
    	Larry
    

    A little extra fuel for the original discussion:
    
    1)   in  the  1820's  my  great-great-great-great-grandfather's  two 
    younger brothers emigrated from County Cork  to  America,  and  went 
    into  the  trapping  business.    The  younger of them was killed by 
    Indians in what is now Colorado, near Pike's Peak.
    
    2) shortly before the dream I made the first visit  in  my  life  to 
    Colorado  Springs  (also  near  Pike's  Peak  of  course)  --  I had 
    previosly visited Denver but not the Pike's Peak area.
    
    /. Ian .\
 

    I had a very scary dream about a week ago...and since I just wanted
    to forget it, I didn't write it down.  Now I don't remember it as
    clearly, but here's what I do remember...
    
    I was very tired and "out of it" one morning, after having a rough
    night the night before, so I decided to take the day off and rest.
    As my husband left, my head hit the pillow and I remember having
    the feeling that I was passing out.
    
    My head was filled with the normal dream-type images and thoughts,
    and then I woke up (this is still part of the dream).  Upon opening
    my eyes, I became very confused and disoriented because everything
    I saw were reflections on large fragments of mirror.  Every fragment
    reflected a different part of the room, and they were all turned at odd
    angles.  I struggled for a moment to make sure this was real, and
    then decided that I must call my husband...that he would be able
    to help.  I found the phone, which was just another image on a mirror
    fragment, but I couldn't find my hand.  I looked down at my body
    on the bed, and my entire body was made up of these mirror fragments
    as well, and nothing was fitting together.
    
    Somehow I determined that if I could fine the fragment with my shoulder,
    and then move my eyes slowly down my arm, I would be able to find
    the fragment with my hand on it...so I could dial on the phone!
    I was becoming very frantic, but was determined to hold myself
    together no matter how things looked to me.  (I believe this thought
    is what must have been the root cause for this dream.)
    
    After locating my hand, I lifted the receiver and dialed my husband's
    DTN...of course, this didn't work from home, and I became more frantic
    as I tried to remember the outside prefix.
    
    Suddenly, I was awake...really awake.  I felt like I was floating
    and I felt incredibly disoriented and frightened.  I had a hard
    time getting up and moving around...nothing felt secure to me, not
    even walking on the floor.  After awhile, those feelings wore off...
    but that is the most bizarre and terrifying dream I have ever had!
   
    Jerri

Re: .26
    
Thank you very much for your comments.  I wasn't sure why I had the 
dream, but I had some guesses.  

For the past few years, my desire for personal growth and awareness has 
been extemely intense, although this has always been a way of my life.  
Always striving to have an open mind, I discovered that my "open mind"
was only open when I wanted it to be.  I was controlling the door at my
will, and feeling very happy with my "progress".  However, after pushing
even further, and having several incredible personal experiences, and 
taking on an attitude of "no resistance", the door I was playing with, 
seems to have been blown completely off the hinges and I don't feel I 
could shut it now even if I wanted to.

In no way do I think this means I've reached some "end"...because that 
was only one door of probably an infinite number of doors.  It's 
stupifying to see that a very open mind on one level, is a very closed 
mind on another.  

Although at times, the feeling of limitless possibilities has brought
me great fear, it has also brought me a level of freedom I've never had
before.  When the fear creeps in, I try to keep breathing and telling
myself "no resistance" (because there's really nothing that can happen
to me...just maybe my body which is only temporary anyway)...and this
helps me to make the choice to accept what's going on instead of fighting
it.  After that, follows sheer freedom and bliss.

My struggle right now is learning how to balance both worlds.  I'm
becoming more aware of an internal world, which is very different from
the outer world I share with all of these other beings...and I want to
be in touch with both because they both are valuable for me.  If I chose
to be in this world, and live this life, I don't want to push it aside
in an effort to search internally for my "real purpose".  I just want to
take off the blinders I put on while starting this life, so that I can
experience the beauty inside of me too.  I do believe it's a matter of
balance...and I would like to be effective in maintaining that.

I believe my dream could be interpreted a lot of ways...but the two I
thought of are:

     1) The dream is telling me that I'm resisting something

     2) I'm not resisting and that's why I had the dream

I have noticed that the more I let go of things, the more bizarre things
come up for me to let go of.  Thinking "no resistance" has brought me
through a lot sanely (so far).  I think I had the dream because I have
not been resisting things and this dream brought up more of my most deep
rooted fears.  I would never have had a dream like this a year ago.  It's
just too bizarre.  I think my desire to hold on no matter what was happening...
was my attempt not to resist it, while also being able to keep functioning 
despite the circumstances around me.  

Unfortunately, I was deciding to be freaked out by it, just because it wasn't
what I would call "normal".  Having resistance is what brings pain.  I don't 
think a person should let go of everything, or they probably wouldn't be here 
anymore...and for some people, maybe that's what they want.  But to choose to 
remain here is more enjoyable for me if I'm able to balance my internal and 
external worlds, so that they are more like one.  Leaning too far in either
direction, throws everything out of balance...and puts me somewhere else.

Thanks, again, for your comments.  I'm going to read the "Tales of Power"
book.

Jerri

    reposted to correct poor grammar:


< Note 251.28 by GOJIRA::PHILPOTT "Ian F. ('The Colonel') Philpott" >



    I'd like to return to the base note for a moment and add a little more
    information...
    
    As I mentioned elsewhere I have been in a strange state with respect
    to paranormal phenomena since Hallowe'en and this dream and the travel
    preceding it occured within the period involved.
    
    Over Christmas I took the opportunity of going back to England and whilst
    there I looked up an old friend who has the gist of being a channel.
    
    I had a personal experience of this strange phenomenon with him in an
    attempt to clear up some of the details. The story I got goes like this:
    
    three spirits are closely intertwined: that of my distant ancestor who
    died shortly before the dream incident, that of the indian who died
    in my dream and that of the indian chief. Because of my "incident" shortly
    before (Hallowe'en), and because I traveled to the geographic area of
    the events I became a passive channel - but only in my subconscious
    - to the only one of the three spirits not currently "living a life"
    - the Chief.
    
    In my dream I met the triumvirate in effect (though I don't recall my
    ancestor being present - so I suspect that what the channel's spirit
    guide was telling me is that his spirit was still present.) When I came
    back I became aware of the chief's spirit and the spirit of the Shaman
    who was guiding the meeting. Unfortunately when I came fully awake the
    contact was broken.              

    In effect the dream was not travel, either in time or space, but the
    effect of my being told the story by the spirit of the chief whilst
    I slept. The strange feelings being because of the contact of our spirits
    whilst I slept.
    
    The channel's guide also told me that I am the reincarnation of my
    ancestor.
    
    Frankly I don't know what to think about this: I have no experience
    of channel communication (my friend will only make contact when the
    need is urgent) and it seems so unlikely to me. I'm not even sure that
    reincarnation happens, though something deep inside me says it does.
    Further it seems so unlikely that three spirits could be associated,
    variously as friends and enemies down the centuries.
    
    The final prediction scares me most of all: the channel's guide told
    me that the indian's spirit is alive in the body of a woman and that
    we are destined to marry... I'd sure like to know who, but I'm not sure
    that I like the idea of predestiny of continuing a love that has existed
    in past centuries and will exist in future centuries.
    
    Anyway now that my troubled state has passed under control I doubt that
    the dream will recur.

    It has however contributed one more element to the awakening of my 
    inner self: whether this was predestined or an accident I may never
    know. Whether it will prove a blessing or a curse I may find out sooner
    than I would like...
        
    /. Ian .\

    Perhaps it's not that bad.  While some (such as you seem to) might
    find the idea of "predestined" intertwining of souls and lives
    disturbing, other would like nothing better than to find out for
    sure that the person who was dear to them had been linked with them
    in a previous incarnation, and would also be in the future.  One
    of the interesting ideas that this sparks is that certain souls
    perhaps are on a path together, not perhaps with the same exact
    destination, but more as "travelling companions".  Could it be that
    with such a special companion one would, in successive incarnations,
    try out different roles so as to learn of the complete range of
    human interactions?  Siblings?  Parent & child?  Lovers?  Friends?
    Enemies?  Mentor & disciple?  Viewed in that light, I would find it 
    most pleasant, just as actors who become good friends must find it 
    pleasant, to "work with" the same person, but as different characters 
    in different plays.
    
    Make of that what you wish; I enjoyed the speculation.
    
    Marcia

   Perhaps I should have used the word "unsettling" rather than "disturbing".
   
   I had developed a rather smug feeling of controlling my own destiny,
   that I am begining to feel that this sequence of events that I have
   experienced recently (I think I'll create a new topic for a full
   description), was ordained to shatter so that I could come awake
   spiritually.
   
   Perhaps it means that my partner is near... after all if I'd stayed 3000
   miles away in Britain and they happen to be here in America then we might
   not have met ... if we ever do :-)
   
   /. Ian .\

    Mikie, your speculation on the dream is interesting.  You have,
    however, made one BIG mistake.  Indians never thought that White
    people were animals.  In fact Native people across North and South
    America knew that"white people" would be coming from across the
    water long before the Europeans knew they were coming here.  The
    reason this continent is ALMOST completely taken over by a colonial
    government is because the Eastern Native people felt sorry for those
    first arrivals and kept them alive through the first few winters.
    On the contrary, it is the white people who thought the Indians
    were animals.  Junipero Serra, a Spanish Brown Robe who started
    the Missions System in California around 1776, actually wrote the
    the Pope asking if the indians had souls and were human.
    
    Betty

   I did a directory on dreams to see where to put this, I couldn't believe
how many notes there were on dreams! Anyway, I decided this was as good a 
place as any. I couldn't see starting a new note.


   I had a strange dream the other night. I was asleep in my childhood 
bedroom (that was more than 12 yrs ago) I was in bed trying to wake up, I
remember it was really hard for me to wake up. I had to really fight with
myself to get myself to wake. I could feel being inside myself saying to
to myself I have to wake up. When I did, it was hard to drag myself up.
As I stood there I thought the the reason it was so hard for me to wake up
was that I was trying to wake up in a different time period than I was
acually asleep in. I was acually asleep in a differnt time, place and bed.
It was a really haunting feeling when I really woke up. 

Any comments?

Gina

    
    
          re. .33
    
                     It is my understanding and belief that dreams are 
    reflections of my life. The unsolved problems, the half finished 
    project, the feeling that *I should have....*, are played out,either
    again or to completion, when I dream. Another point is that I am all
    parts of my dream and that all parts of my dream are intensly personal
    symbols. What my dream symbols mean to me may be very diferent from 
    what your dream symbols mean to you. What helps me to decipher my
    dreams is to keep a dream diary so that I can spot pattern, trends,
    warnings, solutions. Another thing that helps is to, as you have done
    here, share and discuss my dreams with people who know me.
    
    
                                      Later,
                                       Mark
    
     

    
    
      Your right Mark, I had acually had asked for an answer to something
    before I went to bed. The rest of that dream was a real pointer. Not
    the answer but I now know the answer lies in that area of my past. It
    would take all the fun outta it if I got the answers, wouldn't it ;-)
    
    I just found the time concept very strange.
    
    Also, I had been told a long time ago to ask for the highest posible
    guidence while I sleep. It has worked for me well.
    
    Gina
    

    Can anybody help me regarding a strange dream my mother experienced the
    other night , she drempt she met herself walking through the garden
    she was a lot younger in her dream and was wearing the same clothes as
    she used to wear, the image did'nt speak in her dream , and the next
    night she drempt she was walking through the garden again but was very
    wary about going to the bottom corner of the garden incase she met her
    self again, what does this mean ?????
    
    
    
     
    

    It means your mother has a superstitious fear of Timelock.  Most
    time travelers have it too.
    
    						Ann B.

    For a discussion of timelock, see ERIS::FRP 510, or ERIS::Philosophy 58,
    or NOTED::SF 331 & 446.  (But I recommend FRP 510 first.)
    
    Earl Wajenberg

    I read the notes file on "timelock"  but did'nt really understand, what
    does timelock mean in simple terms. Also I forgot to add a few details
    when I was explaining my Mums dream. the part of the garden where she
    met herself, she had never seen before (the garden in her dream is her
    own garden). also she did'nt dream the same again the next night, there
    was quite a time lapse between the two. She did have the dream a third
    time but this time she was travelling down the garden in a car.
    

    Re .39:
    
    Sorry, Ann and I have been having a bit of fun.  "Timelock" is a term
    that appears in a book I wrote for players of science-fiction role-
    playing games involving time travel.  It's a term I made up for a role-
    playing in which Ann and I both played (a game that provided much of my
    background knowledge for the book).
    
    The premise in the game and the book is that you can visit the past by
    time-travel, but you cannot change it because this leads to logical
    contradictions.  In any case where you try to change the past,
    circumstances combine to make you fail.  I named this kind of
    combination of circumstances "timelock," on analogy with "gridlock" in
    a traffic jam.
    
    If you're a time-traveler, you could go back and meet your previous
    self.  But, unless you already *remember* meeting your *later* self,
    timelock is likely to prevent you succeeding in the attempt.  (You
    might get away with it if your earlier self never realized it had met
    your later self.)  So, deliberately going to look for your earlier self
    is looking for trouble.  So, in our game and in the book, time- 
    travelers regard near brushes with earlier selves as bad luck.
    
    Going back to your mother's dream -- meeting yourself is (naturally
    enough) regarded as an amazing thing in several different systems of
    folklore.  In some, it's a wonderful thing, and is supposed to indicate
    great self-mastery.  In others, it's a dreadful thing, either from its
    sheer irrationality, or because it means your soul is coming unhinged
    from your body (seeing your own ghost, as it were).  The second self is
    called a "doppleganger" in German.
    
    It doesn't necessarily mean either of those things in your mother's
    dream.  I'd say you need to find out what it means *to* *her*.
    
    Earl Wajenberg