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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

180.0. "2:45-3:30 AM Nightmares" by --UnknownUser-- () Mon Jul 28 1986 17:29

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180.1USFSHQ::SMANDELLMon Jul 28 1986 17:549
    I often have periods of 2 to 3 weeks during which I will wake up
    at 3:45 to 4:00.  Then they will subside for several months and
    return again.  Maybe it takes the boogeyman 15 minutes to get from
    your place to mine! :^) 
    
    Seriously, though,  I've often wondered why it's only during that
    time of morning, too.
    
      - Sheila
180.2Two Equations; Three UnknownsINK::KALLISMon Jul 28 1986 19:0611
    Well, a few questions might help.  Have you recorded that days of
    the week, or even more important, what _dates_ these were?  Did
    these distribute among seasons, or happen randomly?
    
    the reason this is asked is that there's a 45-minute time window
    you're talking about.  If this _also_ occurs during certain days
    of the week (e.g. always on, say, Tuesday), and at certain times
    of year, it might be more signifixcant than otherwise.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
180.3LEANOV::HARDYMon Jul 28 1986 23:226
    Just in passing:  I am reminded of the movie SOMETHING WICKED THIS
    WAY COMES, in which one character remarks that 3am is the "midnight
    of the soul".   I don't have any idea why this should be so.
    
    Pat Hardy
    
180.4Night ThoughtsINK::KALLISTue Jul 29 1986 12:0111
    re .3:
    
    Poetically, if we take sunset as the beginning of night, the antipodal
    "noon" would be six hours later; in the summer, with 9:00 PM sunsets,
    that would make it 3 AM. ;-)
    
    Actually, I susdpect it's because some peoople think (or thought)
    that one reached the deepest level of sleep at that time.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
180.5I Got Rhythm?NATASH::BUTCHARTTue Jul 29 1986 13:2819
    It may very well have some physical roots.  Every person has a special
    rhythm to their sleep cycles, just as with breathing, digestion,
    heartbeat, etc.  The times of your nightmares may coincide with
    the time you reach a particular stage of your sleep cycle.  It would
    be no surprise that, if prone to nightmares, sleep terrors, somnambu-
    lism, etc., that they would come on at a particular time.  My stomach
    growls without fail at certain times of the day when my appetite
    cycle is in full gear, and I can predict almost precisely when.
    
    The _content_ of your bad dreams is another matter.  They are worth
    serious study, both if you believe that you are getting stuff from
    the ether around you or confronting the bogenmen (bogeywomen?) in
    your soul.  Keep a diary of their times of occurrences too, as Steve
    suggests.  You can learn a lot.
    
    Marcia
    
    PS.  My own boogeyman arrives at 1 - 1:30 in the morning.  This
    is the time when I experience most of what I call my "incubus dreams".
180.6What time is it?????ASGMKA::PERRYTue Jul 29 1986 18:5018
    Just food for thought. Some of the replies centered around cycles.
    This is one of the more plausible explanations, as an individual
    does have his own sleep cycle. Some people fall into a deeper sleep
    faster than others therefore the difference in the time at one would
    have their heaviest dreams. Supposedly during REM (rapid eye mov'mnt),
    is the time you have your heaviest dream period. It also tends to
    be the time during which those dreams are the most intense. 
    
    A good example of this type of sleep cycle and dream state is the
    movie, "Nightmare on Elm St.". The basis by which they did the movie
    is fairly factual regarding dreaming and sleep cycles that is, the
    rest is left to everyone's various opinions. If you have bad dreams
    now don't watch the movie, but if you don't, you might find it
    interesting. Another movie that utilizes some good facts is
    "Dreamscape or Dreamstate".
    
    W-man
    
180.7Those and later...NEXUS::MORGANThe Brainwashed never wonder.Mon Aug 04 1986 02:588
    My OOBE's seemed to happen about those times which always puzzled
    me because I thought I was supposed to be in REM about that time.
    Also I noticed that I am more out of control at that time and more
    in control at about 7-9am.  Somewhere about those later morning
    hours I can enter and renter various ASC, doing "dreamthings" with
    volition.
    
      Mikie.