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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

164.0. "Waking Up or Trying To" by SHIVER::MARTINEK () Fri Jul 11 1986 16:32

    Hello,
    I'm new to this file and have been reading around but haven't located
    this topic yet. So...
    
    On waking...
    I often think I've woken up only to feel myself being "pulled back"
    
    to "sleep".  I then spend alot of time trying to get myself up.
    It takes alot of energy and I feel myself get out of bed and walk
    around very slowly.  Everything is a strain.  But then again I find
    I'm still asleep.  As soon as I realize I'm asleep I get sucked
    back.  Is this an OBE? or just a nightmare?
    
    When I finally do wake up I find I haven't moved at all.
    
    Angela
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164.1Yeah, me tooNATASH::BUTCHARTFri Jul 11 1986 16:5622
    Your experience sounds similar to some of the "dreams" I've had
    They feel similar in some ways to the experiences I described in 
    the Incubus Dream note.  The chief feature of these dreams is that 
    I believe I have awakened and then notice, as you describe, what 
    an impossible task it is to move, that everything is weird, that 
    when I try to move I seem weighted down and even feel that I'm 
    being held down.  I used to always feel terrified, until I became 
    more used to the "symptoms"; now when it happens, and I manage to 
    realize I'm asleep, I say to myself, "relax, self, you're really 
    still asleep."  Then, as if relieved that I really haven't wakened, 
    my dreams assume a more recognizable "dreamy" state, without the 
    attendant anxiety of imagining that I'm awake.
    
    I'm not sure what causes my dreams of this kind, but they only occur
    when I'm under a lot of stress.  They also occur on nights when
    I've had trouble getting back to sleep after waking in the middle
    of the night.  It's almost like the sleep I get back to is distorted
    in some way.  So I suspect that many of my dreams of this kind have
    somes psychological or physical basis.
    
    Marcia
    or awake?"
164.2ALTERED STATESBPOV10::COLLETONWed Jul 16 1986 01:229
    I've had this sensation happen to me about a half dozen times now
    it scares the living hell out of me it's like I wake up (in my mind
    anyway) before my body is physically able to move and the result
    is like i'm parallized and I too have to calm my mind into a false
    sence of security before I can actually move once in one of these
    "altered states" I was so scared I tried screaming for some one
    to help me i realy thought I was parallized even screaming was almost
    impossable.      
                                              BILL
164.3altered state or altered nervous system?ELWOOD::MCCARRENThu Jul 17 1986 01:5510
    This has happened to me on NUMEROUS occasions over the last several
    years. Quite frankly I thought it was an early warning sign of some
    kind of bizarre neurological problem. 
    
    I'm not quite sure, however, that this is some kind of psychic
    experience. Instead, I think it may be that the process that turns
    off neural transmission during sleep has not quite re-activated
    my nervous system. 
    
    Ed.
164.4Error during reboot!RAINBO::HARDYMon Jul 21 1986 17:5314
    re 164.2
    
    Do not be afraid, it's just one of those things that people don't
    talk about.  It has happened to me at occasional intervals for about
    fifteen years, and I've heard it happens to others.  My own theory
    is much like ELWOOD::MCCARREN's -- you're only partly awake, and
    the feeling of being immobile or "slowed" is a consequence of the
    same mechanism that blocks motor activity while dreaming.  It seems
    to happen in bursts -- several times a night, maybe once a year.
    The neurological equivalent of hiccups, I guess -- certainly nothing
    to worry about, although it feels constricting at the time.
    
    Pat Hardy
    
164.5Happened to me too!BRAT::DAVISENIS DAVIS - DTN 264-8746Tue Jul 22 1986 20:119
    I have noticed on several occasions that I have been dreaming, and
    don't like what I am dreaming so in my dream I try to wake myself
    up but can't.  This usually happens in the early morning hours,
    after I have been sleeping all night, wake up, then go back to sleep.
    
    It is quite scary, and when I finally do wake up, I am so relieved!
    
    
    Enis
164.6Which is dream, and which is reality?TOPDOC::JAMESWed Jul 23 1986 19:3411
    A similar thing happens to me: I decide that I can't handle a certain
    dream, decide to wake up, think that I *have* awakened, only to
    find bizarre things going on (another dream). When I finally *do*
    wake up, I am disoriented, to say the least. The mechanism that
    tells me that I am dreaming in the first dream seems to be, at least,
    temporarily suspended during the second dream, and things have to
    get really crazy (and they do!) before I realize that I am still
    dreaming. I don't even try to wake up at that point, I just do....
    
    Stel
    
164.7Trying to get "in" bed?SCFAC::MIRASSOUJohn MirassouThu Jul 24 1986 07:397
    As to the feeling of movement being a strain, it seems this can
    also be caused by the body trying to make the movements needed
    to run, walk, etc.  Unfortunately, especially if one is sleeping
    on the stomach, the matress gets in the way of the movement, causing
    the sluggish feeling.  Not unlike trying to walk through a wall,
    I'd imagine.
    				john