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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

100.0. "Old 100." by BACH::COOPER () Wed Mar 26 1986 20:28

    I wanted to post the 100'th topic but I needed an apprpriate subject,
    so --
    
    What are peoples feelings about numerology: classical, popular or
    personal.  Lucky and unlucky and special numbers are included, as
    is "fortune telling" or personality reading by numbers.  Philosophy,
    theory and personal experiences are all welcome.  Anything else
    in this area is also.  Is there a signifigance to numbers beyond
    being used to  count things?
    
    			Topher
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100.1100=5*5*4PEN::KALLISThu Mar 27 1986 11:2018
    My feelings about numerology are mixed, but a few experiences are
    perhaps worth recounting.
    
    I was Class of 59 from my college.  This number has popped up from
    time to time.  Both my first work of fiction and my first factual
    article in _Astounding/Analog_ both started on page 59 when they
    appeared; and at the time, the editor was on a numerology kick:
    he did not know until two years after the factual article appeared
    that I was Class of 59.
    
    When I was first a Midshipman, my serial-number equivalent was 4784;
    my Digital badge is 4874.  
    
    Oddly, in numerological terms, both numbers reduce to 5.  The number
    of letters in my current nickname.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
100.2take a number . . .NATASH::BUTCHARTFri Apr 11 1986 15:2016
    I met someone a few years back who claimed that numerology was
    really the basis for astrology.  He owned several reference books
    on the subject, which I can find the titles if anyone is
    interested.
    
    Incidentally, I am also enrolled in a course (coming in May) that
    will examine the relation of numerology to astrology.  I can do
    a "trip report" for anyone who is interested.  Or, if you want to
    take the course yourself, call:
    
    	Zoe Stewart	
    	47 Magoun St
    	Cambridge
    	868-0818
    
    Marcia
100.3A numeric coincidencePBSVAX::COOPERTopher CooperMon Jun 30 1986 16:525
    I just noticed that note 154.7 was written by "15744::Tillson".
    If you want to check on it, look before the network database gets
    updated (I'm not sure if that will change the "author" or not).
    
    			Topher
100.4Numerological Tarot workNATASH::BUTCHARTWed Jul 02 1986 16:5043
    I learned an interesting way to use your birthday numerologically
    to find the Tarot card that you can use as your Significator.  Method
    #1 I saw described in a book; Method #2 is my own invention.  I
    found the cards to be strongly related to ideals and inner states
    of mind that have been with me for what seems like forever.
    
    Method #1:  Add you entire birth date (month, day, year) in
                numerological fashion and reduce it until the resulting
                number corresponds with one of Major Arcana numbers
    		(1 - 22, 22 being equivalent to The Fool).
    
    		January 16, 1951
    
    		1 + 1 + 6 + 1 + 9 + 5 + 1 = 24
    				    2 + 4 =  6
    
    		The Major Arcana card that corresponds numerologically
    		to this birth date is The Lovers.  This number, accor-
    		ding to the place I learned it from, is indicative of
    		your soul state, or inner state.
    
    Method #2:	Just add your birth month and day numerologically. 
    		Reduce the number, if necessary, until you have the
    		number of the corresponding Major Arcana card.  This
    		is often a different card from the Method 1 card.  It
    		seems, in the people I've tried it for (including my-
    		self), to represent personality characteristics that
    		the person feels are very good, and likes to work to
    		cultivate.  A card that perhaps represents an ideal
    		vision of self.
    
    		January 16
    
    		1 + 1 + 6 = 8
    
    		The Major Arcana card is Strength, or, if you use the
    		Crowley deck, Adjustment.  The person who this example
    		is based on felt that both applied.
    
    I'll be interested to see what people feel about this.  Try it and
    see.
    
    Marcia
100.5I gottcher numberHITECH::BUCKTue Sep 16 1986 17:2816
    Re:100.1
    
    I've noticed that my best freinds phone number has the same last
    4 digits (but in different order) -- my brothers phone # in hudson
    NH has the same last 4 digits as my aunt in Poland Spring, ME (4907).
    Several years ago I worked at Peter Christians Rest. in Hanover,
    NH and the last 4 dig.s were 2345, my home # at that time was 3254!!
    
    On another tack -- I was at a party once and was admiring the lizards
    in a terrarium with two other people.  It turned out that were all
    born December 2nd (different years, but still)...I thought it was
    quite a coincidence.
    
    Hmm, I wonder if there is a coincidence file????  janice "bucky"
    
    
100.6HUDSON::STANLEYDeath Don't Have No MercyTue Sep 16 1986 17:316
    re: .5 "I wonder if there is a coincidence file"
    
    I don't believe in coincidence so I don't believe in a coincidence
    file either! (-:
    
    		Dave
100.712=3HITECH::BUCKTue Sep 16 1986 17:346
    
    Re:100-4
    
    If your birth month is ie. Dec. do you add it as 12 or 1 + 2?
    Actually, nevermind, I just realized one way it's 35, the other
    way it's 26--both ways it's 8!
100.8Just For FunINK::KALLISTue Sep 16 1986 18:1611
    re last several:
    
    I once saw a mathematical demonstration that if you choose 40 people
    at random (or have a party with 40 or more guests) that the
    probabilities are close to unity that at least two of them will
    have the same birthday.
    
    It was an elegant proof, but one it's easy to verify yourself.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
100.9Odds are...PBSVAX::COOPERTopher CooperWed Sep 17 1986 16:0428
    RE: .8
    
    Yeah, that effect is usually called the "Birthday Paradox" (paradox
    in this case is used in the sense of "contradicting intuition" rather
    than the more common sense of "self contradictory").
    
    The proof is not only elegant but easy to understand without much
    mathematics, and fairly short.  I can post it if people are interested
    (PLEASE -- send me mail by saying SEND/AUTHOR, don't waste peoples
    time with "please do" notes).
    
    In the usual sense of "close to unity" however, 40 people doesn't
    make it.  Assuming that people are equally likely to be born on
    any day of the year, you will be only 90% sure that if you have
    40 people that at least two of them will have the same birthday.
    
    Of course, the fact that peoples birthdays cluster a fair amount,
    ups the probability some, but I doubt if it goes over 95% for 40
    people.
    
    The Birthday Paradox is frequently stated in terms of their being
    a "better than 50% chance of there being at least two people out
    of 23 with the same birthday."  This means that if you were to
    repeatedly bet "even" money on this under these conditions, you
    would make money in the long run, but most people who are willing
    to bet on things will take you up on it.
    
    			Topher
100.10Tarot & NumerologyWIENER::SCHUBERT_KDarksome Night and Shining Moon ...Thu Jan 25 1990 18:2174
    re: .4 
    
    I don't know if anyone is still reading this file, it has been
    inactive for quite a long time.
    
    Anyway, here goes my 1st contribution to DEJAVU ...
    
    I also learned a way to determine personal Tarot-Cards from
    a book named "Tarot Constellations" by Mary K. Greer.
    
    It's very similar to the one discribed in .4 but perhaps a bit
    more detailed:
    
    1. Personality Card
    	Add your day, month and year of birth and reduce the result
    	to a number between 1 - 22 (22 also beeing the Fool)
    	e.g.	17
    		03
    	      1965
    	      ----
    	      1985 = 23 (5 > 22) = 5 --> The Hierophant
    
    2. Soul Card
    	Reduce the result again if it's got 2 digits.
    	In my case this is not possible so it stays
    
    	       5 --> The Hierophant
    
    3. Card of the Year
    	Add your day and month of birth to the actual year
        and reduce the result if necessary (as in 1. & 2.)
        e.g.	17
                03
              1990
              ----
              2010 = 3 --> The Emporess
    
    	This card is ment to tell you what topics will strongly
    	influence you this year, what concerns you might have,
    	what you will experience and what you should develope.
    
    	Last year was my year of The High Priestess - that's
    	why I found DEJAVU ...
    
    	It is recommended that you calculate your Card of the Year
    	for the past and the next few years so you can see what
    	has influenced you in the past and what you might 
    	"carry along" with you.
    
    There is also a 4th card called the Shadow Card corresponding
    to your Soul and Personality Card (mine is 14 --> Adjustment)
    but I forgot how you determine this one (I'll look it up
    if anyone is interested in this.)
    
    You can determine cards for your name using the numbers
    corresponding to the hebrew alphabet, there are also
    Melody Cards and so on and so on (the book is really
    interesting if you are into this)
    
    I found these cards very accurate and the thing is that what
    I get from the cards is almost the same as my mother gets when
    she does a horoscope (sp.?) for someone we both don't know
    (of course the horoscope is a bit more precise).
    
    I would appreciate very much if we could get this
    discussion going again - I sure will enter something else
    at a later time (got to go)
    
    bye,
    Karin
    
    p.s. can someone give me an advise where (or whom) I could
         ask something about a Wiccan Rune ??? tks