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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

75.0. "Stevie Nicks and other artists" by DYO780::SCHNEIDER (Kevin Schneider - The Wind Seeker) Mon Feb 03 1986 15:46

    I was sitting at my desk today listening to a "Best of Stevie Nicks"
    tape that I made for myself, and I was paying particular attention
    to the lyrics of the songs that she has written by herself.  I also
    took notice of her voice change (vs. the way she sings other people's
    stuff).  Her lyrics have some good stuff for those interested in
    psychic phenomena.
    
    So I thought I'd throw open a topic for people to discuss the meanings
    of her lyrics.
    
    or...
    
    Feel free to use this topic to present any other artists (titles)
    that seem spiritually inspired to you.
    
    Kevin
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75.1Moody BluesLASSIE::TBAKERMon Feb 03 1986 19:4936
    I'd be interested in some of those lyrics.  Could you type some
    of Stevie Nicks into the note?
    
    The first other group that comes to mind is the Moody Blues.  Their
    earlier stuff is absolutely filled with psychic references.  Some
    titles:
    
    (Thinking is) The Best Way to Travel.  (Search for the Lost Chord)

    The Word 				(Search for the Lost Chord)
    		Between the eyes and ears there lies,
    		The sounds of color, and the light of a sigh.
    				.
    		To know ultra violet, infra red and x-ray
    		Beauty to find in so many way.
    				.
    		And to hear the Sun, what a thing to believe
    		But it's all around, if we could but perceive.
    
    				Clearly talking about clairvoyance.
    
    Legend of a Mind			(same album)
    		He'll fly his astral plan
    		Take you trips around the bay
    		Bring you back the same day
    		Timothy Leary    

    Visions of Paradise
    Voices in the Sky
    
    I guess In Search for the Lost Chord was their main psychic offering.
    From there some of the Moody Blues went more into spirituality and
    others into romance.
    
    Tom
    
75.2Grateful DeadHUDSON::STANLEYASTRAl projectionistTue Feb 04 1986 12:3116
    Some of you might have guessed that I would think of the Grateful
    Dead.  I've entered some lyrics from the song "Box of Rain".
    

    
    What do you want me to do, to watch for you while you're sleepin'?
    Then please don't be surprised when you find me dreamin' too.

    Look into any eyes you find by you,
    you can see clear to another day.
    Maybe been seen before,
    through other eyes on other days while goin' home.

    What do you want me to do, to do for you to see you through?
    It's all a dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago.
    
75.3A Partial List of Nicks PicksDYO780::SCHNEIDERKevin Schneider- The Wind SeekerMon Feb 10 1986 08:4928
    
    re .1
    
    Rather than type in the lyrics, I will suggest several of her songs
    that you can "study".
    
    
    In particular...
    
    Rhiannon (sp)  and  Sister of the Moon  (Fleetwood Mac)
    Gypsy  (Fleetwood Mac - Mirage) **
    Gold Dust Woman (Tusk)
    
    Edge of 17 (Rumors, I think) ***** this is a great tune all around
    
    Beauty and the Beast (SN- The Wild Heart)
    
    
    I suggest you listen closely if you can (or better yet get a copy
    of the lyrics. Look for the songs written only by Stevie. Some of
    the meaning is hidden and subtle.
    
    If you can't do this, let me know and I will put in a sample or
    two along with an analysis based on my EXPERIENCE (vs the theory
    people that use this file).
    
    ... or send me mail at DYO780::SCHNEIDER with your name and DTN
    and I will call to discuss it.
75.4nPFLOYD::ROTHBERGThat's not a bug, it's a feature!Mon Feb 10 1986 11:086
                I think  Stevie  Nicks  writes a lot of her songs 
                based on some  of her experiences with witchcraft 
                as she is a white witch.
                
                
75.5More Moody BluesCOMET2::TIMPSONThe rest... The Universe!Tue Feb 11 1986 00:1111
    Most if not all of the Moody Blues stuff has metaphysical undertones
    
    To Our Childrens Childrens Children is very metaphysical. It speaks
    of astral travel in several tunes. All of the rest deal with other
    aspects of metaphysics
    
    A Question of Balance is there also.  
    
    Actually I think they all are metaphysically orientated.
    
    Steve
75.6Which Witch is which?36869::SCHNEIDERKevin Schneider- The Wind SeekerTue Feb 11 1986 05:208
    re .4
    
    The label "White Witch" is a term that others have typically applied
    to SN.  She is something beyond a witch... WARRIOR is a more
    appropriate term that comes to my mind.
    
    KS
    
75.7Real Beautiful MusicVAXUUM::DYERJym << _n_!Tue Feb 11 1986 18:322
    I wonder what the Cocteau Twins' lyrics say?
		<_Jym_>
75.8music or mezcalNY1MM::BCOHENTue Feb 18 1986 06:2921
    
    	Well now that it is brought up, this poses an interesting
    	study.  Certainly there is an overflow between those songs
    	which are mystically inspired and those inspired by any 
    	number of hallucinogenics.  Without trying to detract from
    	the genius of an artist can anyone really tell if a song was
    	the product of a two day meditative experience or a double dose
    	of LSD.  The point I'm trying to bring up is what many authors
    	have postulated about, the similarity of effects of long diligance
    	in meditation and other metaphysical excercises which take years
    	to master, and hallucinogenic experiences which supposedly
    	get you to the same state but much quicker (and not always
    	while you are totally prepared for it - hence 'bad trip').
    
    	Any thoughts, comments or critisisms on the above, maybe
    	for another note.
    
    	My next reply contains the lyric which have always haunted
    	me.  Mostly from Bob Dylan.
    
    	Bruce Cohen
75.9Tina TurnerNATASH::BUTCHARTFri Apr 11 1986 16:197
    Does anyone have a copy of the lyrics to the Tina Turner song
    "I Might Have Been Queen?"  I can get most of them by listening,
    but some keep escaping me and I've been wanting to send them to
    a friend.
    
    Marcia
    
75.10Van the ManOSL02::SVEINNWed May 14 1986 15:3526
                              -< Van the Man >-
    
    I just want to recommend an artist,that have given me very
    much............. Van Morrison ("the celtic soulbrother no1")
    is the artist.Many of his records,spanning from "astral weeks" (1968)
    to "a sense of wonder" (1985) are containing music of great beauty
    and spirituality.Some of the records I've played hundred of times,but
    never seem to get bored with them.The lyrics are often reflecting
    metaphysical depths,and this together with the music and his
    extraordinary voice,makes a very special atmosphere.
    I can often sense something very deep and real,when listening to
    his music,it's almost a glimpse of a deeper world.........
    If somebody out there never heard his music,I would highly recommend
    this LP's of Van Morrison;
    
    				"Inarticulate Speech of the Heart"
    				"Into the Music"
    				"Beautiful Vision"
    				"Veedon Fleece"
    				"Astral Weeks"
    
    and of course all of the rest of his albums.I would also be very
    glad if somebody had some opinions and views about
    his music.
    
    				Svein Nordrum
75.11More On Stevie...ODIXIE::RANDERSONWed Jun 11 1986 21:4915
    Speaking of Stevie...and being an admirer of her music...I have
    always enjoyed the twist of 'mystery' in her lyrics.  Some new
    News I came across a few weeks ago, and wasn't sure where I saw
    it or on the accuracy, mentioned that she had been married and/
    or had been intimately involved with a serious-minded (not "born-again"
    in the Farwellian sense) Christian for a year or more.
    
    Interesting because, especially in her last two albums, her writing
    seems to reflect somewhat on dealing with the conflicts inherent
    in that type of relationship, the misunderstandings of the "two
    worlds" and tension between her lover being so close (almost in
    a fatalistic sense)and yet so far apart...but both being so intent
    in searches for truth.  Lends a tension to the music which really
    gets felt in a clean way.  Of course all this may be just my
    imagination...
75.12FYI on Stevie NicksSWATT::MAGENHEIMWed Sep 24 1986 16:545
    Some quick info:
    
    "Rhiannon" is Welsh for witch...
    
    Anita
75.13DVINCI::ELIAMon Dec 01 1986 20:234
    Stevie calls herself the Welch Witch.  She also publishes under
    that name.  
    
    p.s.  Edge of 17 is off her first solo album.
75.142 bitsUSHS01::RENTERIATue Dec 02 1986 15:255
    	Another song that comes to mind is Rickie Lee Jones' "The Returns."
    It's off her PIRATES lp, and is about past and future lives.  I
    think.
    
    anita
75.15DO CLOTHES MAKE THE WOMAN?EDEN::KLAESThe right computer finally came along.Tue Dec 02 1986 15:495
    	My apologies if this sounds ignorant, but is the way Stevie
    Nicks dresses have any connection to her supposedly being a witch?
    
    	Larry
    
75.16Earth, Wind, and FireGNUVAX::TUCKERPeace of mind...Tue Dec 02 1986 16:102
    Their "Serpentine Fire" piece and other psychic/spiritual references
    in their songs and on album covers come to mind.
75.17Stevie's wardrobe & lyrics requestSLAYER::SHARPSay something once, why say it again?Wed Dec 03 1986 13:2516
RE: .15

>    	My apologies if this sounds ignorant, but is the way Stevie
>    Nicks dresses have any connection to her supposedly being a witch?

Larry, I can't speak for Stevie Nicks, but I do know something about
witchcraft, and something about rock and roll, and I think the way she
dresses in performance and publicity appearances has more to do with being a
rock&roll star.  I don't know how she dresses when she's being a witch.

BTW, I'd love it if some kind person would send me the lyrics to "Edge of
Seventeen" it's been one of my favorite songs since it was first released,
but I can't seem to decode the lyrics from the tape I have.

Don.

75.18SnSLDA::WHEALTONWed Dec 03 1986 14:448
    I have often heard of SN refered to by herself and others as a 
    Gypsy but I don't think I have heard her called the Welch witch
    or White witch until this note that is.  Can someone elaborate with
    more detail exactly what is meant by her going under the title of
    a witch.  Also, is this related to her being refered to as the Gypsy.
    I had always thought that was an abstract term for her free spirit
    and her lifestyle.
    -BW
75.19Sn and her sore noseUSAT02::CARLSON Fear is the mind killerWed Feb 04 1987 13:5114
    Stevie Nick's lifestyle lately is not that of a White Witch.
  
  A few other artists, or songs;
  
  "Fairies Wear Boots"  Black Sabbath - amusing little ditty
  
  "Soon"  Yes - "Soon, oh soon the light, ours to shape for all
  time...."
  
  "Crystal"  Fleetwood Mac from Rumours and from Buckingham Nicks
  
  more later...
  
  Theresa
75.20more, more, more!USAT02::CARLSON Fear is the mind killerWed Feb 04 1987 23:0320
  Stevie Nicks from BELLADONNA
   "The Highwayman" - "And she in all her magic, with hands as
  quick as light..."
  
   "BellaDonna" - "Come in out of the darkness..."
  
   S.N. from WILD HEART
   "Wild Heart" - "Where are the children, well are they hopelessly
  enchanted, Blame it on the angels..."
  
   "Enchanted" - "In those dreams...that no one knows of, My destiny
  says that I'm destined to run..."
  
  
   Queen from QUEEN I
   "My Fairy King"
  
  
  It's a large listing, think I'll have mercy on you readers!
  Theresa
75.21still moreGNUVAX::LIBRARIANWe let the weirdness inThu Feb 05 1987 16:3034
    
    Make a promise, take a vow
    and trust your feelings, it's easy now
    Understand the voice within
    and feel the change already beginning...
    
    			Moody Blues
    			The Voice
    
    
    
    And the men who hold high places
    must be the ones who start
    to mold a new reality
    closer to the heart
    
    			Rush
    			Closer to the Heart	
                        
    
    
    And it was clear that she couldn't go on
    the door was opened and the wind appeared
    the candles blew and then disappeared
    the curtains flew and then he appeared
    he said "Don't be afraid, come on Mary"
    and she had no fear. And she ran to him
    and she started to fly 
    she had taken his hand
    she had become like they are...
           
    
    			Blue Oyster Cult
    			Don't Fear the Reaper
75.22And for the more earthbound among usNATASH::BUTCHARTFri Feb 06 1987 14:3128
	I met a fan dancer down in southside Birmingham,
    	She was runnin' from a fat man sellin' salvation in his hand.
    	And now he's tryin' to save me
    	But I'm doin' alright--the best that I can
    
    	Just another fallen angel,
    	tryin' to get through the night,
    
    	Step by step, one by one
    	 Higher and higher,
    	Step by step, rung by rung,
    	 Climbing Jacob's ladder.
    
    	Well, comin' over the airwaves, the man says I'm overdue,
    	Sing along, send some money, join the chosen few.
    	Hey, mister I'm not in a hurry 
    	An' I don't wanna be like you
    
    	All I want from tomorrow
    	Is to get it better than today,
    
    	Step by step, one by one,
    	 Higher and higher,
    	Step by step, rung by rung,
    	 Climing Jacob's ladder.
    
    					Jacob's Ladder
    				- by:	Huey Lewis & The News
75.23Known as Welsh WitchTOLEDO::WILLIAMSSat Feb 21 1987 04:1510
    In response to the comment earlier about SN called Gypsy, she is
    known as the Welsh Witch.  Her HBO video "White Winged Dove" was
    produced by Stevie & Company under the name of "Welsh Witch
    Productions".
    
    Another song is "Sorcerer" from "Streets of Fire".  Written by SN
    and sung by Marilyn Martin.  It's amazing how much Martin sounds
    like SN.
    
    John
75.24More musicHULK::DJPLRepeal Murphy's LawMon Mar 02 1987 01:5649
    Yes is another group that has long been into songs with an almost
    religious intensity.
    
    From "The Gates of Delirium"
    	The fist will run, grasp metal to gun
    	The spirit sings in crashing tones, we gain the battle drum
    	Our cries will shrill, the air will moan and crash into the
    								   dawn
    	The pen won't stay the demon' wings
    	The hour approaches pounding out the devil' sermon
    
    From "And You And I" [my personal favorite]
    	Sad preacher nailed upon the colored door of time
    	Insane teacher be there reminded of the rhyme
    	There'll be no mutant enemy we shall certify
    	Political ends as sad remains will die
    	Reach out as forward tastes begin to enter you
    
    From "Ritual"
    	Open doors we find our way, we look, we see, we smile
    	Surely day breaks cross our path, and stay maybe a while
    	Let them run, let them chase, let them halve between
    	Dreams are said to blossom courage, constant to the soul
    	Change we must as surely time does, changes call the chord
    	Held inside we enter daybreak asking for, asking for, the source
    
    From Asia's "Wildest Dreams"
    	They recommended euthanasia for non-conformers everywhere
    	Some men's dreams, for others, turn to nightmares
    	This never would have happened in their wildest dreams
    
    From Rick Wakeman's "Music Reincarnate"
    	Astral planes, the unknown sense lives on past human life
    	No man can sense the whole, the missing sense his soul
    	Governed by an unknown factor, fiction in our life
    	No man can sense the whole, the missing sense his soul
    	Take us to your leader, o the man who rules the mind
    	Reincarnate knowledge, as the soul records the mind
    	All life's secrets now unfold, the mind begins to watch
    	As helpless watching living man destroys and doesn't know
    
    I could go on for hours.....
    dj
    
    BTW - Regarding Stevie Nicks' style of dressing, that IS the way
    the wiccans around here like to dress.  I ought to know.  I was
    married to one, AM married to another and am very close to a third.
    LOTS of shawls...  Big flying skirts.  Jewelry.  Bright colors et
    al.. 
75.25I have library full of theseCASPRO::DLONGa.k.a. HULK::DJPLFri May 01 1987 18:327
    I just had to had another....
    
    From Yes - "Hearts"
    	As we flow down life's rivers
    	I see the stars go one by one
    	All angels of the magic constellation
    	Be singing us now
75.27Peter Yarrow (Paul and Mary)GLORY::WETHERINGTONTue Sep 29 1987 12:5132
    DAY IS DONE by Peter Yarrow
    
    Tell me why you are crying my son
    I know you're frightened like everyone
    Is it the thunder in the distance you fear?
    Will it help if I stay very near?
    I am here.
    
    And if you take my hand, my son
    all will be well when the day is done
    Day is done, when the day is done.
    
    You ask why I am sighing, my son
    You shall inherit what mankind has done
    In a world filled with sorrow and woe
    If you ask me why this is so, I really don't know.
    
    And if you take my hand, my son
    all will be well when the day is done
    Day is done, when the day is done.
    
    Tell me why you are smiling, my son
    Is there a secret you can tell everyone
    Do you know more than men that are wise
    Can you see what we all must disguise
    Through your loving eyes?
    
    And if you take my hand my son
    all will be well when the day is done
    Day is done, when the day is done.
    
    
75.28Rush, B.O.C. and lyrics.ALPINE::REVCON1Wed Dec 09 1987 21:3133
    
    I enjoy the Moody Blues also or at least that album(In Search of
    the Lost Chord).
    
    Rush has some great lyrics many of which I didn't think related
    to this subject matter until lately.  It seems I haven't understood
    enough of this metaphysical stuff to interpret the lyrics. 
    Steve Kallis might want to listen to their song Freewill: 
    
    You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice
    If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice
    You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill
    I will choose a path that's clear
    I will choose Freewill
    
    That is on their Permanent Waves album.
    The entire side two of that album includes many allusions also.
    
    I also wanted to mention something here that didn't seem 
    appropriate in the note on the Necronimicon.
    Blue Oyster Cult Mentions the King in Yellow and the Queen in Red
    in their song _E.T.I._
    They have many strange lyrics - scary in fact.
    
    One more thing. As a musician I have never been able to discern
    any difference between metaphysical and drug oriented music though
    where anyone(I'm not trying to insult anyone here)got the idea that
    drugs help you musically is wrong - you might think it for a while
    but you're fooling yourself if you think it's real.
    
    guy guitar
    
    
75.29MANTIS::PAREWhat a long, strange trip its beenThu Dec 10 1987 14:1814
    I don't understand what you are trying to say Guy Guitar.  You said
    that you cannot tell the difference between metaphysical and drug-
    induced music and anyone who things drugs helps a musician is wrong.
    I'm not sure how this reflects on metaphysical music...
    
    I tend to disagree with you a little bit.  Some musicians seem to
    have reached a point where their music seems to border on the
    metaphysical (Rush, Grateful Dead) and there is some evidence that
    they have used psychedelics at some time in their past and that
    a different view of reality resulted from that use.  Also, studies
    done in the sixties on artists using LSD found that even today some
    "creative center" that had been opened by that one documented use 
    continued to influence their work positively.
   
75.30After the Glitter FadesHBO::CARIGNANTue Feb 16 1988 17:0518
    I would like to take the initiative to set the record straight about
    Stevie Nicks.  Stevie does write very mystical, magical songs; one
    of the reasons I love her music so much.  She also is a collector
    of many crystals.  She never claimed to be a "Welsh Witch" she only
    introduces her song Rhiannon as being about one.
    
    I personally heard Stevie Nicks say she does not consider herself
    or like to be considered a witch.  She just enjoys writing about
    these special things which I enjoy listening to and I really get
    into them.  I even collect doves - but I am no witch.
    
    It's not like I don't believe in the stuff because when it comes
    to ESP I sure do have it.  But Stevie Nicks is not a witch she's
    just someone with a great imagination and interpretation of things.
    
    Christine R.  (R. is for Rhiannon believe it or not!)
    
    - Mom is Welsh
75.31Not a Stevie FanDECWET::MITCHELLLet's call 'em sea monkeys!Wed Feb 17 1988 23:497
    RE: .30
    
    Well, she may not be a witch, but she sure as h*ll seems to think she's
    some kind of bird!                                               
    
    
    John M.
75.32Tweet TweetBSS::BLAZEKDancing with My SelfThu Feb 18 1988 02:017
    re: .31 (John)
    
    	Your feathers seem a bit ruffled themselves, my friend.  ;-)
    	Care to elaborate a bit???
    
    						Carla
    
75.33A Stevie LoverRDGENG::MOXLEYElwoodThu Feb 18 1988 08:127
    re .30
    
    Yup, she is a bird...A white winged dove!...
    
    
    			
    			I think she's great!
75.34So what is her problem?DECWET::MITCHELLLet's call 'em sea monkeys!Mon Feb 22 1988 19:597
    RE: .31
    
    Her songs often allude to birds or somebody named "Sarah."  She
    also likes to pose in bird-like poses and flap her arms when she
    dances( if you can call it dancing).
    
    John M.
75.35That's what makes the World Turn!!HBO::CARIGNANTue Feb 23 1988 16:0610
    Re:  34
    
    I don't think she has a problem, but I guess you do with the way
    she dresses. Maybe you dress like a professional but that certainly
    doesn't mean you are one. By the way she has two songs which include the 
    name Sarah, so what. I am sure there are other artists who have
    more than one song with one word which is the same. 
                
    
    Christine
75.36not sure what I was thinking in .28ALPINE::REVCON1Sat Mar 19 1988 12:5512
    re.29
    
    
    I agree that Rush does seem to show some evidence of *early* drug
    use, but I think that their greatest music came later when they
    promote a much healthier and much less self-oriented philosophy.
    I believe drugs open a person too much in ways that aren't understood
    by the user and that this harms the person spiritually and obviously
    physically.
    
    guy
    
75.37STEVIE'S NOT A WITCH!VIDEO::ROGERSJThu Jul 28 1988 15:2917
    
    RE: REMARK #30 , YOU ARE CORRECT!!!! THERE ARE 
    WITCHES, AND THEN THERE ARE WICCANS, AND A 
    WHOLE OTHER SET CONTAINING SUBSETS........
    STEVIE DOES NOT BELONG TO A COVEN, STEVIE
    DOES NOT WORSHIP SELENA, OR ANY OTHER WHITE
    OR BLACK GODDESS FOR THAT MATTER.  SHE IS 
    SOMEONE WHO IS VERY SENSITIVE TO THINGS AROUND
    HER AND HER MUSIC IS AN EXPRESSION OF LOVE.
    
    DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE SONG "BEAUTIFUL CHILD"
    WAS WRITTEN ABOUT? (TUSK/FMAC) IF ANYONE HAS THE
    SLIGHTEST CLUE, PLEASE REPLY!!!!THIS IS ONE OF
    THE ONLY SONGS OF STEPHANIE'S I HAVE YET TO 
    FIGURE OUT.  THANKS!
    
    
75.38DECWET::MITCHELLThe Cosmic AnchovySat Jul 30 1988 00:178
    RE: .37
    
    Maybe you can tell us who "Sarah" is and why Ms. Nicks is obsessed
    with birds (and fancies herself a dancer).
    
    She is kind of cute though...
    
    John M.
75.39Sara, birds, and a dancerSOFBAS::BROWNThu Aug 11 1988 17:0332
    Well hello John M! Your questions about Stevie are interesting,
    and I will do my best to answer them.  I don't know much about
    who "Sara" is, but Stevie did say once in an interview that 
    the song, "Sara" was part of a group of songs including, "Rhiannon"
    that represented her love for women in the craft (I think you know
    what I'm referring to.)  Even though she claims not to be a witch,
    and I know she isn't...she still loves the idea!  
    
    Ms. Nicks loves birds, she said once, because they are one of
    the only free living things on the Earth...and she identifies
    with the idea of flying away, not dealing with problems or
    anything else...maybe that's why she got herself so messed up
    in drugs.
    
    Stephanie fancies herself a dancer because in High School (not
    until her Junior year, I believe) - she was a cheerleader, then
    went on to take ballet.  She still dances ballet at least once
    a week (or that's the last I heard before she wound up at
    the Betty Ford clinic...) and it is a way for her to relax, and
    try to keep off the extra pounds that creep up on her as she
    spends a lot of time alone at night writing, and eating junk!
    
    Hope I answered your questions, I'm sure that there's a lot
    more to them, I can only offer you information that I've read
    and heard from very reliable sources (radio station trade
    papers, stage hands, etc.)
    
    But I still want to know what Beautiful Child is all about..
    if anybody out there knows, please help.
    
    Thanks!
    
75.40How do you know???USAT05::KASPERLife is like a beanstalk, isn't it...Mon Aug 15 1988 17:1112
re:  .39 

   If you don't mind my asking...

   Twice you have said that you *know* that Ms. Nicks is not a witch.
   How do you know???  I've read a few things but personally don't have
   an opinion one way or the other.  You seem to be sure and I'm curious
   as to how.  

   Terry

   PS.  I think she is a super artist and find her lyrics very interesting.
75.41Steely Dan, Anyone?USWRSL::INGRAMDATue Aug 16 1988 16:5918
    I was just wondering if anyone found anything mystical or mysterious
    about some of Steely Dan's music - for example, "Sign in Stranger"
    (I believe that one's from "The Royal Scam" album, or "Turn That
    Heartbeat Over Again" (from "Can't Buy a Thrill"), and of course
    "Aja" (from the album of the same name)?
    
    Also, I was glad to see someone finally bring up Blue Oyster Cult
    as an example of this type of mystical/mysterious music.
    
    I am sure this will be a "boo hiss" type of comment, but how about
    the Beatles?  Granted, they did experiment with LSD during their
    Psychedelia period, but they also explored the Far Eastern religions
    and I'm sure some of their music greatly reflects that period of
    exploration.
    
    Any comments, questions, or snide remarks?
    
    Di
75.42Somebody elses SarahUSAT05::KASPERLife is like a beanstalk, isn't it...Tue Aug 16 1988 18:4910
Something about SN that I just recalled...

She was sued for release of the song 'Sarah' from Tusk.  Some women (from
Michigan, I think) claimed to have sent her the lyrics via the mail.  
Stevie claimed it was a coincidence.  I don't know what happened -- I guess 
the woman lost since Tusk is still in the record stores.

Does anybody know anything more??

Terry
75.43nobody knows...CPRS::BROWNThu Aug 18 1988 17:4729
    
    
    re:  40
    
    
    Nobody knows anything about ANYONE for sure, and I do not
    know Stephanie personally, although it would be the 
    experience of a lifetime to meet her!  I was in the music
    business for many years and as a result gathered a lot
    of information...not all of, of course, one can assume
    as reliable...
    
    I know she's not a witch because I know some pagans, and
    based on Stevie's lifestyle, attitude, and things that
    she has said in interviews, she does not practice witch-
    craft.  She may be endowed with certain powers, ESP,
    etc. but she does not worship.  
    
    I guess nobody will ever know FOR SURE, but rumor has it
    that she's been writing a book for about the last 5 years
    that one of her friends is transposing in calligraphy, and
    she says it won't be released until after her death.  
    
    When that day comes, we may ALL find out things about
    Stevie we never knew, or guessed!  By the way, I'm not
    being morbid, I love Stevie, and I wish someone would tell
    her to finish the book and release it now!
    
    
75.44Sandy DennisSMEGIT::BALLAMFri Aug 19 1988 17:2021
    Is anyone familiar with Sandy Dennis's life and music?
    I have 2 or 3 (or 4) of her albums.  I haven't listened
    to her in a few years, but I've always loved her music.
    There is one interesting album cover of her in an old
    wooden room, the walls lined with shelves of jars.  She
    is behind an old wooden table lovingly grinding herbs.
    
    This is strictly from memory.  The details may be off, but
    you get the idea.  I don't know much about the dating of
    clothing, but I'd guess the dress she's wearing pre-dates
    the witch-hunting times.  
    
    If anyone's interested, I can post a list of some of her
    songs.  I'll pull the albums and look through the words to
    her songs for clues.
    
    Sorry I'm not more informed about Sandy, it's just that I've
    been meaning to mention her here for a while, so I did while it
    was on my mind. 
    
    Karen
75.45Who?USAT05::KASPERYou'll see it when you believe it.Fri Aug 19 1988 18:446
re: .44 (Karen)

	What kind of music?  Is this Sandy Dennis the actress who
	played with Jack Lemmon in 'The Out of Towners'???
	
	Terry
75.46sandy denny???ULTRA::LARUWhat's wrong with unbridled joy?Fri Aug 19 1988 19:291
    
75.47More about Sandy Denny than you could possibly needAITG::PARMENTERLaws don't change by obeying themFri Aug 19 1988 19:4053
    Nope, I thinkshe is referring to Sandy DENNY.
    
    Sandy Denny was the lead singer for the folk/pop/idiosyncratic band
    Fairport Convention.  Prior to that, she was briefly in the band
    The Strawbs.  She left Fairport initially in 1970 or so to form
    a new band called Fotheringay with her husband Trevor Lucas.
    She was also in the "oldies" band The Bunch.
    Eventually she came back to Fairport for 2 more albums, did some
    more solo work and tragically, died of a brain hemmorhage from falling
    down stairs in her home.
    
    Her voice was breathy and very emotional and her songs have a certain
    engaging quality that is truly haunting.  Based on some of her songs,
    I'd say that she had some supernatural beliefs.
    
    Partial discography (from memory, I don't own all of these...yet!)
                               
    With Fairport Convention:
    HEYDAY
    WHAT WE DID ON OUR HOLIDAYS
    UNHALFBRICKING
    LIEGE AND LIEF
    A MOVEABLE FEAST
    RISING FOR THE MOON
    
    With Fotheringay:
    FOTHERINGAY
    
    With The Bunch:
    ROCK ON                           
    
    Solo:
    RENDEZ-VOUS
    WHO KNOWS WHERE THE TIME GOES
    LIKE AN OLD FASHIONED WALTZ                    
    (this is not a complete list...sorry...)
    
    A song about Sandy:
    DID SHE JUMP OR WAS SHE PUSHED: Richard and Linda
    Thompson/Shoot Out the Lights           
    
    And a whole slew of others, the titles of which escape me.
    
    A unique performer.  At best, she was stunning.  At worst, slightly
    sentimental and schmaltzy.  One of the few voices equally comfortable
    with gentle folk ballads and with gutsy rock and roll.
    
    Interesting Sandy Denny fact: She wrote one of Judy Collins' biggest
    hits, "Who Knows Where the Time Goes?". 
                    
    Check COOKIE::FOLK_MUSIC for possible further information.
    
    - Dan
75.48Is this the same person???BSS::VANFLEET6 Impossible Things Before BreakfastFri Aug 19 1988 20:0010
    Re: .48
    
      Is this the same Sandy Denny who's also an actress?
    She was in _Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolff?_, _Four
    Seasons_, and _When You Comin' back to the Five and
    Dime Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean_?  She also has a really
    breathy voice, is into the occult and does photography
    I heard.
    
    Nanci
75.49Sandy DenneySMEGIT::BALLAMFri Aug 19 1988 20:5917
    Major Whoops!  Anyone have an idea as to why this has been a
    major aaarrrrrggghhhhh couple of weeks for me?  Naaahh, don't
    want to digress in this note.    
    
    I meant to type SANDY DENNEY!  If I still spelled her name wrong,
    will let ya'll know next week.  I'll check out her albums this
    weekend.  
    
    Her style was sort of old tyme british folk.  Some were ballads.
    A pretty, lilting style; and a very quiet voice, tho that could
    have been the quality of the recordings.  Probably pretty 
    similar stuff would be Fairport Convention and maybe some of
    John Renbourn's stuff.
    
    Have a nice weekend everyone!
    
    Karen
75.50SMEGIT::BALLAMFri Aug 19 1988 21:064
    thanks for the info...obviously the previous few beat my
    last reply!
    
    Karen
75.51Did She Jump or Was She Pushed?AITG::PARMENTERLaws don't change by obeying themMon Aug 22 1988 13:163
    I knew it had to be Sandy Denny, hence my long-winded reply.
    
    - Dan
75.52good reading?JAIMES::REDICKthe _cooler_ cats @ Bartle &amp; JaimesTue Sep 20 1988 21:077
        can anybody recommend book(s) about Welchian (sp?) Witch's ?

           

            any help is appreciated,  
                                     tlr
75.53Jane WiedlenPOBOX::HEINTue Aug 08 1989 15:3815
    I just thought I'd add some lyrics that I think are neat.  They're
    from "Inside a Dream" by Jane Wiedlen's (formerly of the Go-Go's)
    "Fur" album.
                
                I lose myself inside a dream
                opening up a secret door.
                I lose myself inside my dream
                and find a world worth living for...
                living for.
    
    Just a short exerpt.
    
    Jennifer
    
              
75.54COMET::COSTAMon Oct 23 1989 20:086
    
     Speaking of Stevie Nicks, I'm going to see her this weekend. Has
    anybodyheard any good or bad about this tour? I think with this being
    so close to Halloween that it could be an interestin show
    
    Tony
75.55SHARE::DHURLEYThu Oct 26 1989 16:176
    Where are you seeing her?  I saw her this summer at Great Woods and her
    concert was excellant.  She did most of her new music which I found
    very different.  I also feel that she was more polish than her earlier
    concerts.
    
    Denise
75.56USAT05::KASPERLife's a gift, learn to accept itThu Oct 26 1989 16:287
    > I also feel that she was more polish than her earlier concerts.

    Hmmm, I though she was British... *<;*)

    Terry

75.57It's way out westCOMET::COSTAThu Oct 26 1989 16:5213
    
    RE -.1 ;-;-;-;-;
    
     The show is in Denver at McNichols arena. I'm hoping it will be real
    good. I saw her a few years back twice in one summer at Red Rocks, I
    think one of the shows is out on video, and these shows in that
    environment was so spectacular that I'm don't want to be let down. Is
    she still real heavy looking? I really like her change in music styles
    but still appreciate the old material.
    
    Tony
    
    
75.58SHARE::DHURLEYMon Oct 30 1989 15:2915
    RE -1
    
    I don't think you will be let down with her show.  She didn't dance as
    she usually does and I found out later that she had broken her ankle???
    So you may get a better show with her moving around more.  The stage
    design was really good.  She does look like she still has some weight
    on. But I think she stills looks good.  What I like about her is that
    she pays so much attention to her audience.  When she said White Dove
    she walk completely around the edge of the stage taking gifts and
    shaking hands and talking with people.  I think that is a wonderful
    quality of hers.
    
    Have fun at the show.
    
    Denise
75.59Jacob's LadderCSC32::HOUGHThu Nov 23 1989 01:0618
    
    
    ...small nit re: .22
    
         the song "Jacob's Ladder" (one of my personal fav's) was 
    written by Bruce Hornsby ( of Bruce Hornsby and the Range). Tho'
    Huey Lewis and the News did the first recording of it, I much
    prefer Bruce's own rendition of it, which is on the newest release
    of his "Songs from the Southside". Hearing Bruce's rendition, you
    just know that it how it was originally meant to be sung, unlike
    the very "pop" version that Huey did. 
    
       BTW, Bruce's music and lyrics seem very soulful...maybe somehow
    relating this to the topic....
    
    
       Kat
    
75.60die hard YES fanCSCMA::PERRYTue Dec 26 1989 14:4121
    If you want my opinion - - and I am sure you won't - - I really
    think SN is a self-important twit.  Sorry to be so blunt.  The
    real creative force behind F Mac was Lindsey Buckingham.  But
    this is just an opinion.
    
    In a recent interview with Jon Anderson (this year) of YES, he
    said that in the early days their lyrics were the results of
    what he called "psychedelics" - - or LSD to us other people.
    
    But his recent works, without the use of drugs, are just, if not
    more, spiritual.  If you want to hear some real spiritual stuff,
    and what I call really modern sounding music...
    
    I would suggest "Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe" which came
    out this year and Jon Anderson's "In the City of Angels" (1988).
    
    Truly good music...(to me).
    
    from a die hard YES fan
    
    Jp
75.61BUFFER::GOLDSMITHLike a kiss from the lips of RaTue Dec 26 1989 17:0410
    A,B,W,&H is a far cry from the early Yes days, and even from recent Yes
    work.
    
    IMO, when you use drugs, you have two different people inside of you. 
    The person on drugs and the person off drugs.  If the finest works from
    Yes were made when they were on drugs, then the newer stuff is going to
    come from a completely different person and place.  It isn't the same. 
    That also explains recent work from Clapton, Floyd, etc...
    
    S
75.62dittoWHEY::BESTWed Dec 27 1989 18:4813
    
    re: .60 (Jp)
    
    I have to agree with you that ABWH is a great album.  The lyrics
    are the absolute best part of the album (imo).  I'm already sick
    of the music - but it lasted (for me) as long as any of their 
    other stuff.  Truly inspired lyrics.
    
    There's a line from Big Generator (I think) that goes along with
    what you said: "there was a reason we experienced psychedelics
    so we could see..." or something like that.  Not true really.
    
    Guy
75.63Stevie is a Wicca too!SASE::MARCHILDONWed Feb 07 1990 18:063
    I believe she is a "welsh-witch"
    perhaps even a high-priestess!!!
    
75.64onward he went with his (2) left feet!SASE::MARCHILDONWed Feb 07 1990 18:359
    reply to JOHN M. (re: .31)
    
    You obviously aren't a music critic, or even someone with much depth!
    there's no point in trying to "enlighten" you.
    
    
    B.
    (another wicca!)
    
75.65he can't defend himself....MISFET::BESTH.V. AttenuatorThu Feb 08 1990 14:067
    
    re: .64
    
    I got the impression John was making a joke - John is no longer
    with DEC.
    
    guy
75.66Name fondly remembered from the pastCGVAX2::PAINTERAnd on Earth, peace...Fri Feb 09 1990 20:539
    Re.64, re.31                            
    
    John M.'s departure from DEJAVU and DEC can be found under the topic:
    
    		    "Anchovy Creates New Reality (;^)"
    
    It would take a very long note in and of itself to explain this...
    
    Cindy
75.67USAT05::KASPERAll life can be a ritualSun Feb 11 1990 00:177
re: .66 (Cindy)
    
    > It would take a very long note in and of itself to explain this...
    
    You got that right!  ;-)

    Terry
75.68Surely not a BritWAV14::VOTAVAThu May 17 1990 17:568
    This may seem quite a bit after the fact, but Stevie isn't British.  In
    Fact (although I forget the actual state of her birth) she is
    American.... her Grandfather was a Country singer.  I heard her in an
    interview in 1983 talking about the songs he taught her and how he was
    a big influence on her singing (she does have the country touch in many
    of her tunes). 
    
    
75.69Under the Cherry Moon.ISEQ::MKEENANFri Aug 14 1992 12:048
    
    Prince's many unreleased songs include one called
    
    'There's others here with us'
    
    -it's an eerie tune..and it can be found on the unreleased 'Charade' Album.
                        
     
75.70VERGA::STANLEYwhat a long strange trip it's beenFri Aug 14 1992 13:561
    it's as if everybody knows it but no one talks about it....