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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

51.0. "Faith Healing" by --UnknownUser-- () Fri Dec 06 1985 11:34

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51.1PEN::KALLISFri Dec 06 1985 12:3229
	With regards to the last point first, the priest is right.
	With regards to the rest of it:

	Therte are two forms of faith healing -- spiritual and psychollogical.
It's sometimes hard to separate them (see my early note of placebos).
	Taking the psychological cases first:

	Sometimes, a person is "ill" for reasons other than physical.  As an
example, a person has committed an act that he or she feels is wrong, and yet
goes "unpunished."  Something triggers an ailment, say a rap on the head that
actually would cause no permanent damage, and the person suddenly says he or
she is blind.  The actual blindness is psychosomatic, but the person is just
as blind as if there were actual damage to the optic nerve.
	Under such a circumstance, the blind person can be "healed" if he or
she is _convinced_ that the person doing the healing _can_ heal, then sight
will be "restored."
	Other ailments that this mechanism has been identified with are
dumbness (inability to speak) and lameness.

	Spiritual healing is just that -- a miracle by conventional standards.
It is a gift that apparently a number of people have demonstrated, historically.
In addition to Our Savior, the magus Apollonius of Tyana demonstrated the
ability more than once.  However, in most cases, the spiritually healed must
be willing to be healed for the treatment to hold.

	A problem here is that there are a lot of charlatans in this area who
take advantage of the gullible or desparate.

Steve Kallis, Jr.
51.2Please Help...BSS::BLAZEKDancing with My SelfMon Jan 18 1988 23:5525
    	I'm not sure what this base note was about, but this topic seemed
    	the most appropriate of the "healing" topics for what I'm seeking.
    
    	I have a dear friend, 23 (?) years old, who has cancer.  This
    	was discovered four years ago, at which time treatment began 
    	immediately.  My friend was a highly physical athlete and won 
    	swimming scholarships to several different colleges, but spent 
    	his freshman year in a hospital, experienced a lot of pain, and
    	lost all his hair from chemotherapy.  He also ended up having a
    	bone marrow transplant and further painful treatment for a year 
    	at a specialized hospital in Texas.  A few months later, the 
    	cancer disappeared.  Totally, without a trace.
    
    	Three months ago my friend went back for a check-up, and cancer 
    	was detected again.  Needless to say, he was devastated.  He's 
    	now studying to be a pilot in Arizona and is not letting this 
    	interfere with what *he* wants to do any longer.  He says he 
    	can't go through what he went through before and is trying to 
    	heal himself through dietary and herbal self-healing means.
    
    	Can anybody recommend any books I can send him???  Thanks in
    	advance...
    
    						Carla
    
51.32 booksSSDEVO::ACKLEYAslanTue Jan 19 1988 00:1021
Hi Carla,
    
    	I recently ran across two books.   (available at "Celebration",
    since you're in Colorado Springs  :^)   )
    
    "What The Medical Establishment Won't Tell You That Could SAVE YOUR
     LIFE",   by Micheal L Culbert.     Explores many alternative cancer
    therapies, mostly based on vitamins and diet, and metabolic theories.
    The Author is a reporter with an axe to grind, but the book has
    a good biography that might lead to many other resources.
    
    "You Can Fight For Your Life" by Lawrence LeShan  
    subtitle:  Emotional factors in the treatment of cancer.
    I haven't started it yet, but it looks like it will be very good,
    other books by LeShan always have had something important to say...


    	There's a whole shelf of stuff on alternative medicine
    at Celebration, probably others there I didn't notice yet...

    Alan.
51.43 more suggestionsVITAL::KEEFEBill Keefe - 223-1837 - MLO21-4Tue Jan 19 1988 02:0739
    re .2
    
    Carla, also available are the following:
    
    "Breaking Through Illness: Igniting the Healing Power Within"
        by C. Norman Shealy, M.D., Ph.D and Caroline M. Myss, M.A. 
    This is a complete self healing program for anyone experiencing
    illness, stress or a major health or life crisis. It is unique because
    it guides you into relaxed states of consciousness and into activating
    your own natural healing powers. Using powerful affirmations, positive
    mental imagery, and soothing guided meditations, the "Breaking Through
    Illness" program redirects your thoughts in a way that empowers
    the entire healing process. It consists of an instructional guidebook
    and 3 cassette tapes. 
                          
                          
    "I Choose Life"       
    	by Patricia A. Noriss, Ph.D and Garrett Porter
    This book is an in-depth look at the body's ability to create health
    through the power of the mind.
       In highlighting her work, Dr. Norris presents 9 yr. old Garrett
    Porter as an extraordinary example of the effectiveniss of imagery
    and biofeedback in the healing process. Garrett was diagnosed with
    an inoperable brain tumor. In his own words he describes how he
    worked for a year with biofeedback equipment, special visualizations
    and relaxation techniques to totally eliminate his tumor.
                          
    (both of the above are available through Stillpoint Publishing)
    (in N.H. - you can call toll free and order them at 1-800-847-4014)
              
    Another excellent book is "Love, Medicine and Miracles" by Bernie
    S. Siegel, M.D., published by Harper and Row. The stories in this
    book are drawn primarily from Dr. Siegel's patients who have cancer.
    In 1978 , Siegel started ECaP (Exceptional Cancer Patients), a
    specialized form of individual and group therapy to facilitate personal
    change and healing. This experience led to his desire to make everyone
    aware of his or her own healing potential, resulting in this book.
              
              - Bill Keefe
51.5SNOC01::MYNOTTTue Jan 19 1988 02:2422
    Carla,
    
    I checked with the bookshop when getting all the titles, and some
    of them are available in the States.  This gentleman has had incredible
    success using diet and meditation.
    
    Dr. Ainsley Mears, some of the titles are: Cancer Another Way, Wealth
    Within, Why the Old, Thoughts, Prayer and Beyond, Let's be Human,
    Kind of Believing, The Introvert, From the Quiet Place, Door of
    Serenity and Dialogue and Meditation.
         
    Also highly recommended are Heal Your Body, and You Can Heal Your Life
    both by Louise Hay. 
         
    I have seen at close hand positive thought, and meditation work
    on Cancer.
    
    Hope this has helped,
    
    ...dale
    
    
51.6If I had cancer, I'd investigate!USWRSL::OPERTue Jan 19 1988 03:4620
    Carla-
      
        Several years ago my boss' wife (age 30-a master mechanic, a
    certified chef and a CPA [!]) developed a cerebral carcinoma (brain
    tumor.)  She underwent some chemo-therapy and radiation treatments as well.
    As an attempt at "helping" I gave her both sets of Lazaris'
    Health tapes (2 different lectures) during which he describes the
    source of illness and methods for changing that reality.  Also 
    included is a meditation on each tape (set) that may be useful.
    I think the tapes are great.  A few months ago I sent copies of
    these tapes to DEJAVU noter Larry Christensen.  Perhaps he could
    share what he found in them (and then again, maybe not.)
                                                          
        They tie in very well with some of the concepts as I read them
    in several of the preceding notes.  Louise Hays (in Dale's note)
    is a close friend of Lazaris...so, as you can see, many sources
    pointing in similar directions.
      
    Frederick
    
51.7LEZAH::BOBBITTDo I *look* like a Corporate Tool?Tue Jan 19 1988 12:4218
    There is a series of books by a man named John McDougall which I
    hear are helpful in improving health.  I have not read them yet,
    but I have heard positive things about them (perhaps some of you
    have read them).  The first is The McDougall Plan, about the basics
    to his "health-supporting" diet and lifestyle.  The second is called
    McDougall Medicine - A Challenging Seconds Opinion.  This is split
    into how to apply his basic plan and ideas to various diseses. 
    He also has several cookbooks related to all this.  
    
    Also, I took a workshop (at HCHP, That's Harvard Community Health
    Plan in the Boston area) called "Ways to Wellness" which helps one
    overcome any kind of "un-well-ness" in the body, be it stress, cancer,
    ulcers, alcoholism, panic attacks, allergies, back
    pain..etc..etc..etc...If your friend wished to partcipiate in something
    like this it may help them....
    
    -Jody
    
51.8I'll keep you postedBSS::BLAZEKDancing with My SelfTue Jan 19 1988 14:076
    
    	Thank you all so very much!!!  Time for a visit to
    	Celebration...
    
    						Carla
    
51.9Macrobiotic Approach anyone?CAMLOT::COFFMANDu Pont - Kemp, that's the TicketWed Jan 20 1988 16:0410
Carla,

May I suggest you take a look at a book written by Michio Kushi.
He uses Macrobiotic cooking an food principles in the healing process
he promotes.

I believe the title of his book is the Cancer Prevention Diet.  
Apparently he has had good results with this technique.

- Howard
51.10I agree w/ L. Hay's bookSHRBIZ::WAINELindaThu Jan 21 1988 16:3014
    
    Carla,
    
    Just wanted to tell you that I know of a lot of people that were
    greatly helped by Louise Hay's "You Can Heal Your Life" book, some
    of which were cured totally of a terminal disease. I definitely think
    that this is one book to look into...
    
    Remember what disease is.... dis - EASE.

    Love & light to you and your friend...
    
    Linda
   
51.11There's grace enough to live or dieFREEBE::TURNERMon Aug 20 1990 19:522
    Carla, are you still a noter? How did it go with your friend? Its
    a couple years down the pike. I hope it worked out