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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

30.0. "Supernature" by PEN::KALLIS () Mon Oct 28 1985 14:29

Re note #20:

This is worth a note of its own.  Among the replies to this note was refer-
ence to _Awesome Life Force_, which was written by someone who was obviously
at odds with what he termed "academic science," and posited a number of strange
and unsubstantiated claims involving the forces of the universe.

A book of considerably more merit is _Supernature_, by Lyall Watson.  For one
thing, Watson is an "academic scientist."  For a second, his investigations
into what we call "the paranormal" are not at wide variance with established
scientific knowledge of the time of writing.  Like a good scholar, Watson has
provided numerous footnotes, many from established technical or biomedical
journals, as well as those from many books, to reference the points he's 
making.  His bibliography is extensive and comprehensive.

My basic criticsms with the book are 1) Watson is a bit more credulous than
most people are; and 2) the information is somewhat out of date.

However, it is a good solid effort to link the normal with the paranormal.  
While I don't accept all his hypotheses and conclusions, it's a good, thought-
provoking book and well worth your attention.

It's been available for several years in mass-market paperback.

Steve Kallis, Jr.
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30.1SNICKR::ARDINIMon Oct 28 1985 15:122
	I'll definitely read thru this one, Steve.  Thanks for the reference.
							Jorge'
30.2PEN::KALLISMon Oct 28 1985 17:038
re .1:

You won't do it in an evening.  He makes some fascinating connections, many
of which are found in highly respectable journals.

There *is* more in Heaven and earth than is dreamed of in most philosophies.

Steve Kallis, Jr.
30.3LOOKUP::OPERATORSat Nov 23 1985 12:1412
	STEVE
		I am almost finished with uper nature and I'd have to agree 
	that it does have a clearer ring of truth to it.  I find now that I
	have a lot more to inout on many of these notes in this file.  He
	covers a lot of different angles to convince the reader of a firm
	and measurable connection of all things.  He gives more credit to
	some of the occult and ties it in with science pretty well.  When
	I finish the book I'm going to put together a more detailed
	critique and maybe draw some parallels between this and the "ALF"
	book.

							Jorge'
30.4PEN::KALLISWed Nov 27 1985 14:3110
Jorge' and others:
	Please note also the _detailed_ citations watson makes concerning
books and journals of legitimate scientific stature.  What claims he makes
either are labeled as speculation or are backed up _strongly_ with citations,
most of which are impeccable.  I cannot give a parallel comparision to
the ALF book, because most of his "facts" are either unsupported, based on
previous suppositions of his, or misunderstandings of situations (like the
John Campbell anecdote).

Steve Kallis, Jr.
30.5VAXUUM::DYERTue Dec 31 1985 21:352
	    Is he the guy who wrote _Lifetide_?
			<_Jym_>
30.6PEN::KALLISFri Jan 10 1986 18:383
Sounds right.  I know for sure he wrote _Sorcerer of the Bolinas Reef_.

Steve Kallis, Jr.
30.7VAXUUM::DYERTue Jan 14 1986 01:113
			Checking my library, I see that Lyall Watson did indeed
		write _Lifetide_.
				<_Jym_>
30.8READING SUPERNATURE NOW....IPG::KITETue Jun 09 1987 12:5225
    I am reading Supernature at the moment, 'bout half way through.
    I first borrowed it from my local library when I was 12, but I wasn't
    able to understand it, so it was returned to the library until my
    mental ability had developed and I had time to give it the attention
    it warrants.
    
    I, in fact, read the follow up book 'Romeo Error' first as supernature
    was out on loan (local library), I also have the next in the series,
    "Beyond Supernature", which I am looking forward to reading. 
    
    I have enjoyed both books immensely, and find his logical (scientific?)
    approach and analysis satisfying.  I believe in 'supernature' but
    I also need 'proof' of how and why these things happen/exist; these
    books solve my dilemma.
    
    Are there any other books, in a similar vein, that anyone can
    recommend?
    
    All for now
    Janice
    
    PS: to Steve Kallis,  I may not be adding much to the notesfile,
    but I am learning in the background, the only problem is I don't
    seem to be learning enough, quickly enough 8-}!
      
30.9ERASER::KALLISHallowe'en should be legal holidayTue Jun 09 1987 13:0427
    re .8:
    
>        I have enjoyed both books immensely, and find his logical (scientific?)
>    approach and analysis satisfying.  I believe in 'supernature' but
>    I also need 'proof' of how and why these things happen/exist; these
>    books solve my dilemma.
 
    The book is very useful, but it's a tentative first step.  His approach
    is "scholarly'; i.e., he does literature searches do correlate findings
    and observations done elsewhere.
    
    However, the book should be looked at critically: an open mind,
    but with enough flexibility to adjust for changes as any are
    discovered.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr. 
    
>    PS: to Steve Kallis,  I may not be adding much to the notesfile,
>    but I am learning in the background, the only problem is I don't
>    seem to be learning enough, quickly enough 8-}! 
    
    1) your observations add to the notesfile; don't apologize.
    
    2) none of us learn enough, quickly enough.  The problem is, as
    I've "noted" elsewhere, separating the real wheat from the chaff.
    And alas, that takes time!