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Conference 7.286::sports_90

Title:OURGNG::SPORTS - Digital's daily tabloid
Notice:Please review note 1.83 before writing anything.
Moderator:VAXWRK::NEEDLE
Created:Thu Dec 14 1989
Last Modified:Fri Dec 17 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:438
Total number of notes:50420

110.0. "THE CONTEST/THE TRIAL/THE EXORCISM" by RHETT::KNORR (Carolina Blue) Thu Jan 11 1990 14:10

Okay folks, here it is:

**** THE FIRST ANNUAL ACC CHRIS TICKET GIVEAWAY CONTEST!!!! ****

(insert sound of crowd roaring approval in the background)

Here's your chance to attend the February 2nd meeting between the
Charlotte Hornets and Boston Celtics at the Garden.  What's more, 
you'll be seated in the Press Box!  

This is no hoax and all are welcome to enter.  I'll be selecting
a winner on January 26th (Friday) at around noon time.

For contest rules, keep reading!  But first a little background.

As many of you may remember, I won a bet with a certain Steve Nazzaro way
back on last years NBA draft day.  Mr. Nazz called on all his hoops expertise
(not to mention inside knowledge) and predicted JR Reid would not be picked
in the Top 5 of the draft.  (I've a sneeky suspicion here Nazz threw all
this objectivity out the window and used the ole unreliable "wishful 
thinking" resource to clowd his better judgement, but that's just a hunch.)
Nazz promised a ticket to next years Hornets at Celtics game as compensation
if, in the unlikely event, he turned out to be wrong.

As history will record, Reid was picked 5th by (irony of ironies) the
Charlotte Hornets.  This game is fast approaching - February 2nd to be
exact.  As fate would have it, I've relocated out of the area
and, despite all my best efforts, will not be able to attend.  Hence the
available ticket.  (BTW - Nazz has given his full endorsement of this
contest.)

Now for the rules.  

First, you must live within the Boston area.  No sense awarding this to
somebody who can't attend.  Simple enough.

Next, since I was the true winner, I figured the most logical thing to
do was to let someone attend who most closely resembles me, at least as
far as fandom is concerned.

So what I'm asking is this.  Reply to this note with your most eloquent
pro-Carolina sentiment.  Since JR was the primary reason for the ticket,
points will be given to singing his praises, though it's not necessary.
Given recent events, pro-Dean comments may be given extra weight.
Be creative!  Songs, ballads, even poems are all welcome.  Try to keep
them within a couple of screens at most (48 lines).  P-names and Titles
will be considered as part of your effort.

NOTE:   Only ONE reply per applicant please.  Lord knows I'll probably
	have my work cut out for me just reading all the replies as is.
	I'll try to be as objective as possible (i.e. disregard any
	previous anti-Carolina note(s) someone may have entered), but
	if sarcasm or insincerity is detected you'll be immediately
	disqualifed!

	
- ACC Chris
    
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110.1And the winner is...MILPND::VLASAKRoad WarriorThu Jan 11 1990 14:256
    Think I'll have JR reply to this note, since he looks most like
    ya and will do the Hornets the least damage by sitting in the press
    box!
    
    ;-)
    
110.2Once upon a time, there was a coach ...SHALOT::HUNTFrom the young man in the 22nd row ...Thu Jan 11 1990 14:4719
    Oh my God, I must have been a very bad boy during my life.   Was I
    in an accident or something ???  Somebody please check today's
    obituaries and see if I'm in there.
    
           *** Because this must be what HELL is like ***
    
    A actual contest to win a ticket to see the Holy Green Sweat Socks
    and, to enter, I need to write an essay praising the virtues of
    the North Carolina Tar Heels and their coach, ol' Reverend
    One-Title Dean Smif' hisself.
    
    Okay, God, please give me one more chance.  I promise no more
    curse words, no more skipping church to see the Eagles pre-game
    show, no more making change out of the collection plate, and I'll
    make sure to get a plastic Jesus for my dashboard.
    
    Puh-puh-please, God ???   This is really cruel stuff.
    
    Bob "I'm A Sinner No Mo'" Hunt
110.3FSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Thu Jan 11 1990 14:588
    Much as I'd like to, after the way the Heels have treated my alma
    mater on the field or court of athletic combat in the past and after
    the cowardly way the Rev Smif had his boys lose to Colorado State
    to avoid the Minutemen in the finals of the Mile High Classic, I
    can't think of enough good things to say about North Carolina or
    JR Reid to possibly win this contest.
    
    John
110.4UNC = #2CGVAX2::REEVEThu Jan 11 1990 15:0020
    Well, I won't degrade myself by lying about UNC, but I sure would like
    that ticket, so here are the pertinent facts:
    
    1. I live in Winchester, Mass. about six miles from Boston garden.
    2. My first name is Chris, that ought to be worth something.
    3. I am a Ga. Tech grad and FANatic.
    4. I am an ACC fan.
    5. I don't love but respect Dean Smith (read note 82.654 in the old
       Sports Conf. for proof.)
    6. JR Reid is a very good, but not great basketball player (Mark Price
       is better)
    7. I would like to see UNC come in second in the ACC every year, to GT
       of course.
    8. We agree on at least one thing; Anderson, Scott, and Oliver give GT
       the best perimeter team in the country.
    9. UNC and GT will meet in March (or is it April) 1991 for the national
       championship. Naturally, with Geiger eligible next year, Tech will
       be awesome and win.
    
    Chris
110.5see, it's easy!LEVERS::STROUTknocking on heaven's door...Thu Jan 11 1990 15:008
    
    	Two good things about North Carolina:
    
    	1.Michael Jordan
    	2.James Worthy
    
    sean :)      
    
110.6JUPITR::PARTEECharlie -- Lemieux est le mieuxThu Jan 11 1990 15:0211
    Official contest entry
    ===============================
    Carolina's OK, I drove through it oncet.  JR Reid can stack
    a whole slew of china plates on his butt.  Even more than MrT
    can.
    
    Charlie
    ===============================
    Ooooh, I think I'm gonna win it, I do, I do!!!
    
    
110.7some good pointsAUNTB::HAASThanks for pouring the gasThu Jan 11 1990 15:1512
re: .5
Item 2 is hotly debated so you may want to rethink this one.

I know that I'm not eligible being neither in the Boston area nor a Tar
Heel fan, but here's what I like about UNC and JR.

o If I were drafting for Charlotte, Nazz would have still had to cough
	up the ticket.

o UNC's basketball team is better than UNC's football team, I think.

TTom
110.8Give it up swamp rats, I'm goin' to the game...CAM::WAYAnd death shall have no dominionThu Jan 11 1990 15:2437
[Flatt and Scruggs good-time, bluegrass, North Carolina pickin intro]

[Chainsaw, dressed in Carolina Blue, sings (to the tune of Beverly
 Hillbillies:]

Well now listen to ma story bout a man named A.C.C,
he's got some Celtics tickets that he's gonna give to me,
All I gots to do is come up with a verse or two or three,
about the Rev Smif', JR, and Southern hospitality.

(Celtics tix, press box seat)

Now I don't know a damn thing about the NC game,
I heard the Dean Smith stories, and some I think  are lame,
but I do know that the team is Blue and when they play at home,
they're in this place that's named for Dean, and it's called a Dome.

(Huge place, not Olympus though)

Now lemme tell ya something all about that guy named JR,
No, not the one from Dallas, and he doesn't smoke cigars,
He's got a butt so big some say that on it plates could stack,
but at least he made his NBA team and didn't die from smoking crack...

(#5 Draft choice, sorry celts fans)

So now my story's over, at least it seems to me,
I really shoulda put something in about ACC and MrT
but to get the Celtics tickets is my shining brilliant goal,
and to talk about that GREAT DEBATE would just be a rat hole...

(Tix are mine, address to follow...)

[Flatt and Scruggs pick on while screen fades to black...]



110.9The Ballad of Dean SmithAXIS::ROBICHAUDJ.R. Reid lock for NBA ROTYThu Jan 11 1990 15:2525
	Out of the land of Tobacco Roads myth,
	Came a coaching legend by the name of Dean Smith.

	A downtrodden program with rubes and hicks,
	Dean molded a training ground for NBA picks.

	With hard work, brains and unlimited zeal,
	He built the tradition of the mighty Tar Heels.

	A coaching genius with none as his peer,
	UNC dominates the ACC year after year.

	The NCAA Tourney is a crapshoot at best,
	And in no way a coach's ability does test.

	To annually dominate the best conference in the land,
	Is a truer, fairer measure of a coach's command.

	So here's to the Tar Heels and their amazing coach,
	An unbeatable program that is above reproach.

	The envy of many, the scorn of a misguided few,
	Three cheers for the mighty North Carolina Blue!

    				/Don
110.10Good effort...CAM::WAYAnd death shall have no dominionThu Jan 11 1990 15:358
Gee /Don, what a pee-pee-smootcher song.....

I could almost heard Jimmy Dean in the background singing
"Big Bad Dean"


heh heh heh,
Chainsaw
110.11AXIS::ROBICHAUDDenver - The Team of the 90'sThu Jan 11 1990 15:363
    	Hey Frank, I've always loved the Tar Heels and Dean Smith.
    
    				/Don
110.12SALEM::RIEUPatton,Reagan,JR,DeanThu Jan 11 1990 15:398
In the South there's a legend named Dean...
Who's an awesome coaching machine...
With JR's shootin'...
And Chris Knorr's rootin...
Carolina wins were routine.
                                               Sincerely,
                                               Denny

110.13Begging for Celts tix? HA!CRBOSS::DERRYout of mints, pass the lifesaversThu Jan 11 1990 16:105
        Frank, you live outta state.  You're out.
     
        One ticket, press box seat?, vs. the Hornets? ha ha...  
        Maybe whomever wins can trade up for two decent seats to
        see the Bruins.  Then give me a call.  
110.14:-)BUILD::MORGANThu Jan 11 1990 16:227
    One ticket?  *One* ticket?!!!  To sit in the press box and rub elbows
    with a bunch of IBM PCs?  I even considered biting my tongue and saying
    something nice about Dean and JR, but not for ONE ticket.  Besides,
    I'll be sitting in the loge 2 days earlier when the Knicks come to
    town.
    
    					Steve
110.15I've given this a lotta thoughtMCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Thu Jan 11 1990 16:408
    
    I flew over the Carolinas once and it sorta looked nice and pretty
    in a green sorta way.
    
    Uh...I guess that should do it.
    
    -Dick
    
110.17It's amazing how low some people will go!LEAF::NAZZARODean Smith is scared of UMassThu Jan 11 1990 16:4711
    Actually, it's neither one nor a ticket.  It's two press box passes.
    
    With free admission to the JR plate-stacking-on-my-butt contest after
    the game.
    
    Chris asked to to confirm that what he said in the base note is true.
    All that is true is the first paragraph of this note.
    
    Nuff said
    
    NAZZ
110.18SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Jan 11 1990 16:523
   re: It's amazing how low some people will go!
     Thanx Nazz! But I meant every word of it, really!
                                            Denny
110.19DASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Thu Jan 11 1990 16:545
    Gee, the best thing about NC is that it's far away.
    
    The worst thing about NC is that it isn't further away.
    
    Lee
110.20AXIS::ROBICHAUDGo North CarolinaThu Jan 11 1990 16:555
    	I totally agree Nazz.  To see some people prostituting themselves
    like this is really a shame.  Myself, I've always idolized Dean
    Smith and the Tar Heels.  That's why I fight with MrT so much.
    
    				/Don
110.21DASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Thu Jan 11 1990 17:005
    /Don is a hooker!!!
    
    :*)
    
    Lee
110.23AXIS::ROBICHAUDPlato,Homer,Voltaire,DeanSmithThu Jan 11 1990 17:042
    
    
110.26Honest approach?CNTROL::CHILDSBroncos&Elway#1inmybookThu Jan 11 1990 17:1014
    
    Now Chris, I've been sitting here for two hours and the only good
    things I can think of about Carolina are the people there, the air
    and the cost of living.
    
    I can't prostrate myself like others or make fancy ryhmes. I'll say
    this I went to Celtics games in 78 and 79 when they won 60 between
    the two season. When the rich, Oh I got to be seen at the game
    crowd didn't attend. I can't get tickets now though. As a basketball
    junkie yourself don't you think I's appreciate it more than the
    rest of the crowd???
    
    mike
    
110.27SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Jan 11 1990 17:154
       Hey! I can't git tickets either, but I'd like the opportunity
    to see a team from the fine state of North Carolina. It may not
    be the mighty Tar Heels, but at least they have JR!
                                      Denny
110.28VAXWRK::NEEDLENo way, T. It's too much fun.Thu Jan 11 1990 17:200
110.29AXIS::ROBICHAUDPlato,Homer,Voltaire,DeanSmithThu Jan 11 1990 17:213
    	If I go I will wear my Charlotte Hornets hat.
    
    				/Don
110.30SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Jan 11 1990 17:222
       Ha! Won't work slasher, I got a 'heels hat AND sweatshirt!
                                    Denny
110.32SASE::SZABOScratch 'n Sniff hereThu Jan 11 1990 17:238
    HAHAHAHAHAHA(tm)!  
    
    Mike, how exactly would you prostrate yourself, if you were going to,
    that is......?
    
    :-)
    
    Hawk
110.33Go Teal And PurpleSHALOT::HUNTFrom the young man in the 22nd row ...Thu Jan 11 1990 17:273
    Go Hornets.  Kick some Holy Green Sweat Socks butt.
    
    Bob "Hornets Fan Since The Minute I Arrived" Hunt
110.34If you ain't got something good to say...... TURKEY::J_HALPINThu Jan 11 1990 17:280
110.35no offense to any #1 out thereCNTROL::CHILDSBroncos&Elway#1inmybookThu Jan 11 1990 17:3210
    
    you know hawk the same way the folks around here get rate a #1 by
    their managers.....
    
    I think the K&G for it is Brown-nosing....
    
    ;^)
    
    mike
    
110.36Heaven. I'm in HEAVEN!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueThu Jan 11 1990 22:447
    Nice start boys, but there's still 15 days left to get yer entries in.
    Picking a winner will be tough, but I can assure you it will be done as
    Dean would - with the highest integrity.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.37Did I win????STRATA::CAPPELFinley,GeorgeS,Griffith,CapFri Jan 12 1990 09:2924
    
    Let's see.... nice things I can say about ol Deano'
    
    1.  He's never killed anyone.....
    2.  He's allowed Indiana and other teams to beat him in the NCAA
        tournament.
    3.  He's never said anything bad about my mother...
    4.  He gave ACC Chris multiple orgasms when they shook hands last
        year.
    5.  He's allowed many of his star players to leave college early
        for the pros, so that he doesn't further stunt their growth
        as future pros.
    6.  He's been a classic role model for underachievers and those
        who will settle for 2nd best and 'good losses' all across this 
        great land of ours.
        
    A good thing to say about JR Reid, Hmmmmmmmm..........
    
    1.  He hasn't married Sid Fernandez's sister.  Can you imagine the
    	butt on their offspring?
    
    Well this should be the winning entry :-)
    
    Cap
110.38reasons why I'm so deserving ;^)CNTROL::CHILDSBroncos&Elway#1inmybookFri Jan 12 1990 10:3310
    
    I heard Johnny Most live on the radio when Hondo stole the ball....
    
    I have Red's autograph and Johnny Most. My Dave Cowens future hall
    of famer poster still hangs in my bedroom at my parent's house....
    
    My favorite celtic player was Cedric Maxwell and he was from North
    Carolina....
    
    mike
110.39AXIS::ROBICHAUDDenver - The Team of the 90'sFri Jan 12 1990 10:374
    	Maxwell didn't play for UNC Mike, he played for UNCC.  Had he
    played for Dean Smith he would've had a better pro career.
    
    				/Don
110.40he had a great pro career. Red ruined him in the endCNTROL::CHILDSBroncos&Elway#1inmybookFri Jan 12 1990 10:456
    
    Slasher of course I know that but UNCC is in North Carolina so it
    atleast gave me a chance to slip North Carolina into the
    conversation...
    
    mike
110.41Mikey, the slip is valid......TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Fri Jan 12 1990 11:2418
    Hey Mikey,
    
    I don't know how to do cut'n paste on othe rnotes but I have ACC
    Chris's rules posted to my wall and here's a quote from them:
    
    "...Reply to this note with your most eloquent pro-Carolina
    sentiment..."                                  ------------
    						      ^
         		                              |
    
    
    
    Therefore, I think your reference to Cedric can qualify!
    Sorry Slasher.......
    
    
    Kev_OW(tm)
    
110.42I think this is a scam!!!!!;^)TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Fri Jan 12 1990 11:3326
    
    Ahem....
    
    Excuse me ACC Chris but methinks you are misleading us.
    
    According to your contest rules, the prizewinner will go
    to the February 2 game of the Celtics vs. Charlotte. Right?
    
    
    
    Accoding to my "Official Miller Lite Boston Celtics 1989-1990
    Schedule", The Celtics are scheduled to be in Minnysoda playing
    the Wolves on that date.
    
    <scratching head ON>
    
    Hmmmmmmmm????????
    
    <scratching head OFF>
    
    maybe I don't wanna enter, unless you're picking up the travel
    and accomodations tap too?
    
    HTH,
    
    Kev_OW(tm)
110.43AXIS::ROBICHAUDDenver - The Team of the 90'sFri Jan 12 1990 11:343
    	My guess is that Chris meant the 7th.
    
    				/Don
110.44Maybe it's a ruse to draw out "T"?TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Fri Jan 12 1990 11:418
    Slasher,
    Can ya be SURE????  
    
    Can ya imagine ACCC... sending a ticket to "T" since
    the 2/2 game is in his location?
    
    ????????
    
110.45SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Fri Jan 12 1990 11:473
       Chris is too fine an upstanding gentleman to mislead us. This
    can't be anything more than an honest mistake on his part.
                                     Denny
110.46Maybe you have alterior motives????TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Fri Jan 12 1990 11:509
    Denny,
    
    Can your remark be construed as a penicular appendage
    sipping discretely bribe????
    
    ;^)
    
    Kev_OW(tm)
    
110.47CAM::WAYAnd death shall have no dominionFri Jan 12 1990 11:5121
Re Karen:

So what if I'm outta state?  I can be in Boston in 1:45, or 1:30 if
I'm in a hurry....


Re Chainsaw The Craven Panderer:

Nah, just having some fun.  I'll write a song for almost any occasion,
and this seemed like a good one....and if you really notice, I didn't
prostititue myself like that pee-pee-smoocher /Don did.  I was more
or less objective...(I thought)

Gee, I guess, for equal time I'll have to write one for Indiana....
Okay, when I get back from Vacation, I'll enter my Indiana song (which
should be easy, cause I like them...)


I'll bet /Don has North Carolina underwear on today!

Chainsaw
110.48Who you callin' a pee-pee smoocher? Dem's fightin' woids!AXIS::ROBICHAUDDenver - The Team of the 90'sFri Jan 12 1990 11:581
    
110.49Call him /Smoocher!CAM::WAYAnd death shall have no dominionFri Jan 12 1990 12:037
The /Don Craven Pandering Caroline Blue Pee-Pee-Smooching Do It Yourself
Workout Video...

available on Home Shopping Channels everywhere.....;^)


Chainsaw
110.50SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Fri Jan 12 1990 12:062
      Jist fightin' for troof an justice Kev!
                                                    Denny
110.51/Mr Goodbar ... uh /don ... don't degrade yourself !LUNER::BROOKSIf you think this was bad ...Fri Jan 12 1990 12:0620
    The Jihad is doing some *serious* ankle-grabbing huh ?     
    
    JR Reid ? Something good to say about him ?
    
    the haircut ? Nah, it's really f***ed up.
    
    The inside game ? It sips.
    
    His chances of playing in the All-Star game ?
    
    Slim and none.
    
    Oh well, I guess I struck out. Darn .... :-)
    
    Oh yeah, and Deam Smif' isn't have the coach that John Thompson
    is .....
    
    And that's a fact !
    
    DrM
110.52SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Fri Jan 12 1990 12:093
       Don't take any of this guff /Don, go git 'em. Dock knows the
    only thing Thompson has over Dean is his height.
                                            Denny
110.53Gahndi I like too!!!!!TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Fri Jan 12 1990 12:1018
    
    Slasher, Slasher, Slasher.....
    
    In the [sic] immortal woids of Confucious
    
    "The superior man deplores violence while the INFERIOR
    man thrives on it"
    
    Now that we have established which one you are,[;*)
    
    I only asked if it could be construed.  I didn't actually
    call you a pee-pee smooching penicular appendage discretely
    sipping person.
    
    many, many ;^)
    
    Kev_OW(tm)
    
110.54is it '90 yet ?BANZAI::VENUFri Jan 12 1990 13:5821
    
    	Uhhhh ....
    
    	heard there was a competition in town
    	to see 'em damn celts go down
    	a finer sight, there could'nt be
    	than JR's butt all over 'em green
    
    	and I ai'nt  no raving hornet's fan
    	but here's to Dean Smith's main man
    	Mike is the name and air is his claim,
    	
    	Uhhhh....
    	
    	JR's his name, but() what's his claim,
    	Damned if I know, 'cause I ai'nt sane
    
    	Do I win ? Do I win ?
    
    	/Confusedcious 
    	 
110.56ClarificationsRHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 12 1990 14:3639
    Some clarifications/explanations are in order here.
    
    First, sorry for the mix-up in dates.  No, I wasn't trying to draw MrT
    out.  You don't have to be clever for that.  For all intensive purposes he
    *has* been drawn out, but the convicted felon is trying to cop a
    plea and I'm not budging.  Hence his ghost-like one-liners as opposed
    to his former War & Peace diatribes.  (Mr.Moderators, feel free to send 
    me thank mail.)
    
    Anyway, if it's 2/7 for game day, so be it.  Mark your calendars.  I'll
    still be picking a winner on 1/26 at noon though.  Also I hope everyone
    noticed that the pot has actually been sweetened.  It's not just one
    seat, but TWO!  In the Press Box!!   In the unlikely event my formula
    for determining a winner results in a tie (FYI - this complex equation
    is actally a derivative of the BobHunt 64-Point Must System (tm)) I 
    suppose 1 ticket could be awarded to each winner.  But we all know a
    tie never happens in College Basketball and it's like kissing your
    sister anyway, so I don't envision that happening.
    
    A couple more things.  Mr.Farley was technically correct in pointing
    out I said "pro-Carolina", which could imply anything having to do with
    the state of North Carolina, or even South Carolina.  (Shudders run up
    and down my spine when I think of the possibilities here.)  The SPIRIT
    of the rule, however, clearly indicates this is not the case.  As such,
    I'm looking for pro-University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill flatery
    ONLY!
    
    Finally, the issue of Mr.Way's eligibility must be clarified, since he
    certainly has a bona-fide entry in the contest.  (I'd hold off on that
    IU song for awhile though if I were you 1Way.  It might cloud my
    judgement.)  I stated "Boston area" in the contest rules, and I'd
    consider Connecticut to fit that definition.  As long as a contestant
    is confident they can get to the game, they're eligible as far as
    I'm concerned.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    
110.57CAM::WAYAnd death shall have no dominionFri Jan 12 1990 14:4516
re the IU Song, and picking up my prize...

See, I said I'd wait until after my vacation.  As a Libra (you know
scales, diplomacy and all) I feel compelled to give equal time.

But, since my vacation won't end until after the winner is announced,
I've no fear of biasing the Judge 'gainst me.

Now, do you need to be present to win.  On Friday, 1/26 I'll be
enjoying myself in the Seattle area, drinking some Ballard Bitter and
probably eating salmon..., thus I won't be here, breathlessly waiting
in front of my terminal to find out when I'll receive my tickets.

And to Karen:   "Nyah, nyah, nyah ;^)"

Chainsaw
110.58Don't be so cocky 1Way. Now MrT can enter!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 12 1990 14:5115
    You don't have to be present to win.  However you're competing against
    some pretty solid competition, and there's still plenty of time left
    before selection day.  I've also got a sneeky feeling there's some 
    clever folk out there who are racking their brains for "just the right 
    note".  
    
    I feel bad about limiting the competition to Boston-area, since I
    know there are tons of other people dying to enter.  So I'll tell ya what. 
    If you can't go to the game but want to reply anyway, I'll consider
    your note in the contest.  Your reward will have to be just the
    knowledge of your victory, since I'll have to give the Celtics tickets
    to the highest finisher in the Boston-area.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.59AXIS::ROBICHAUDDenver - The Team of the 90'sFri Jan 12 1990 14:523
    RE: My detractors
    
    		See ya after school!
110.60CAM::WAYWhat is is ain't exactly clear...Fri Jan 12 1990 14:5628
>>< Note 110.59 by AXIS::ROBICHAUD "Pee Pee Smoocher of the 90's" >
>>
>>
>>   RE: My detractors
>>    
>>    		See ya after school!


Tsk, tsk, tsk....

Guess we can throw the /Don Non-Violent Way to Solve Your Problems Video
right out the window...




RE ACC and Chainsaw's Cockiness...

	Heck, if I don't win, it'll be somewhat akin to the Lennid-Hearns
	fight... ;^)   

	Rim-job (haw haw haw haw)



It's the drugs, honestly,
Chainsaw

110.61SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Fri Jan 12 1990 14:563
       Chris you could always send the non-Boston area winner a much
    coveted UNC T-shirt! The entries would FLOOD in!
                                       Denny
110.63Magic Formula kept under lock and key, BTW.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 12 1990 14:597
    By the way, for those who've entered, don't assume 1Way's in the lead
    right now.  I haven't put the entered notes up against "The Formula"
    yet, so even I don't know who's winning!  (Isn't this exciting!!)
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.64Great Idea!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 12 1990 15:028
    Not a bad idea Denny.  Actually what I could do is send the winner the
    T-shirt my Westboro buddies gave me when I left for the south.  (I'll
    have to let somebody who was there explain - it's too discusting for me
    to repeat.)
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.65I'm gonna hafta cut ya' for that one 'Saw!AXIS::ROBICHAUDDenver - The Team of the 90'sFri Jan 12 1990 15:061
    
110.66SASE::SZABOScratch 'n Sniff hereFri Jan 12 1990 15:135
    re:  2 passes
    
    Is tag-teaming allowed?
    
    Hawk  (1/2 of Birds of Prey, retired)
110.67Not even press box seats worth selling your soulLEAF::NAZZARODean Smith is scared of UMassFri Jan 12 1990 15:149
    I do need a new rag to wipe the bird sh*t off my window, so send
    me that Carolina t-shirt.
    
    Interesting to note that there are more entries in this note that
    say they don't want to participate than those that do.  Nice to
    see there's still some integtrity and self-esteem left in the
    world (no, not you /Don).
    
    NAZZ
110.68This is getting complicated!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 12 1990 15:1510
    > Is tag-teaming allowed?
    
    Hmmm.  That's a tough one.  It wouldn't be fair to allow 2 entries
    to count toward a win, but I see no reason why you couldn't combine
    on a single entry, as long as it doesn't take the form of looking
    like 2 seperate notes.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.69T-shirt meant for non-Bostonians anywaysRHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 12 1990 15:187
    Sorry Nazz, but even you have to enter to win the T-shirt.  (Actually
    that should probably read *ESPECIALLY* you have to enter to win the
    T-shirt.  Heh heh!)
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.70FSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Fri Jan 12 1990 15:216
    The T-Shirt Chris is offering is in Indiana Red with an IU logo
    on the front.  On the back is written "#1 Bobby Knight Fan Club"
    in big white letters.  I liked it but I'm surprised Chris hasn't
    burned it yet.
    
    John
110.71I think it's MrT's size too!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 12 1990 15:256
    Nope, the T-shirt exists.  It's actually stashed in my daughters room
    in the event she has another one of those "accidents".
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.72That does it NAZZ, meet me after school!AXIS::ROBICHAUDDenver - The Team of the 90'sFri Jan 12 1990 16:191
    
110.73D - E - A - N - Gooooooooo Dean!!!!SAGE::ROSSI'd walk a mile for a Tar HeelFri Jan 12 1990 17:5238
110.75domeward.....SASE::SZABOScratch 'n Sniff hereFri Jan 12 1990 18:085
    3D, Doug?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA(tm)!
    
    :-)
    
    Hawk
110.76Sold my soul for Celtics goldSAGE::ROSSMrT seen sniffing Dean's shoesFri Jan 12 1990 18:1311
A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

I haven't been to a Celtics game in a couple years.  And the last
time I sat "up close and personal", DJ was playing for the Suns!!!
It was a snowy night and a friend and I sat front row, center court
before the game to watch the pre-game high school game {Maynard 
against somebody}.  Nobody ever showed up to claim the seats. I
got to count DJ's freckles.

I promise if I win that I will dump a beer "accidently" on Dan
Shaughnessy's head.  :-)  
110.77I'm getting old, I was in high school then.HPSRAD::SANTOSA monster is being built.Fri Jan 12 1990 18:2212
>>I haven't been to a Celtics game in a couple years.  And the last
>>time I sat "up close and personal", DJ was playing for the Suns!!!
>>It was a snowy night and a friend and I sat front row, center court
>>before the game to watch the pre-game high school game {Maynard 
>>against somebody}.  Nobody ever showed up to claim the seats. I
>>got to count DJ's freckles.

  Doug, I was at that game. Maynard played Hudson I believe Jan 79.
  I remember trying to get Rick Robey's john Hancock and he blew me
  off.

Chuck
110.79Thought you had more class than that ;-)LEAF::NAZZARODean Smith is scared of UMassFri Jan 12 1990 18:294
    Oh Doug, all you had to do was ask me for some tickets.  To grovel
    like that is disgustingly pathetic.
    
    NAZZ
110.80Dean would make this obvious choice, ACChris!SASE::SZABODo the right thing, DadFri Jan 12 1990 18:3825
    Well, I throw in the towell on being imaginative, witty, and cute,
    however.........
    
    ACChris, you are a family man, aren't you?  Well, you see, my daughter,
    an avid basketball fan who's favorite color is blue, who just
    yesterday turned 9 years old, has never seen a professional basketball
    game live.  Not that I wouldn't take her- I would if I could but I
    ain't got the dough (non-technoweenies don't make much).  And she
    really, really would love to go to the Garden and see a game, any game. 
    And you, ACChris, could be responsible for getting this adorable little
    kid there!  Imagine how happy she'll be sitting up there in that press
    box!  Imagine how good you'll feel because you fulfilled a kid's dream,
    her birthday wish, actually!  And, I'll even send you a picture of her
    in J.R.'s arms after the game, standing on the parquet being
    interviewed for having been chosen the Player of the Game!  Wouldn't
    that make you absolutely feel good?
    
    Have a heart ACChris, and present my daughter and me with those 2
    passes.  Your life will be richer, and this good deed will make you a
    happy man forever.  Think about it, and do the right thing!
    
    God bless you, ACChris, and God bless Dean and all he stands for!
    
    Sincerely,
    Hawk
110.81Anytime.....SASE::SZABODo the right thing, DadFri Jan 12 1990 18:415
    BTW, Nazz, those passes that you would've easily given to Doug, well,
    what are you going to do with them now?  Wanna make a kid and her old
    man real, real happy?  :-)
    
    Hawk
110.82WANTSQUASER::MCALPINEI'LL B SUREFri Jan 12 1990 18:462
    I FEEL CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS
    
110.83My entryREFINE::ASHEWalt's Wackos: 1989 FFL champions!Fri Jan 12 1990 19:525
    Reid ain't half the man he was in Carolina blue....
    
    Do I win?
    
    -Walt
110.84You want REAL Hornets fans, right?BTOVT::GREENE_KBo does MAXCIM?Fri Jan 12 1990 23:4730
    My turn.
    
    This may sound similar to a couple back but you see I have a 10 year
    old son who has never been to a professional basketball game. Actually
    the last time I was at the Garden, Cowens was playing!
    
    Why should I get to take my son to the game (compliments of ACChris)?
    
    We actually stopped for gas twice in North Carolina.
    
    My son met Dick Harter twice, last 2 years at Nelson/Sanders camp.
    Even got his picture taken with him!
    
    My son has a limited edition Charlotte Hornets t-shirt (thanks to Tom
    Haas) He also has a Hornets Media Guide ('88-'89) signed by Dick
    Harter. Did I mention the bumper sticker? (Tom will vouch that we're
    Hornets fans, right?)
    
    When I read a few notes back about the discrepancy of the date for the
    game, I pulled out my pocket sized Hornets schedule (WCCB TV18 WBT 1110
    AM) out of my wallet to see for myself.
    
    As I sit here groveling, my son is upstairs watching the Hornets play
    the Bulls on TV.
    
    Besides, if Connecticut is considered in the Boston area, so is
    Vermont! I'll be there!
    
    Kevin
    
110.85AXIS::ROBICHAUDDenver - The Team of the 90'sMon Jan 15 1990 11:237
    	You always know when a sitcom is in trouble because the writers
    bring a new kid on the show.  Conversely you know when a noter is
    in trouble in this contest because he brings his kid into it.  8^)
    Anyways Hawk told me if he won he was bringing someone named Marina
    to the game.  Who is this Marina anyway Hawk?
    
    				/Don
110.87Impressive. Vewy impwessive. RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueTue Jan 16 1990 00:2914
    Nice effort Doug.  If you don't win the contest you'll still get the
    nod for "Turnaround Noter of the Year".  (That "W" letter may come back
    to haunt ya though.  Dan Schneider, where AAAARRRREEEE YOUUUUUU???!!!!)
    
    Just want to remind all you non-Bostonians - get yer entries in!  A
    T-shirt will be the reward for the highest finish of anyone not
    eligible (due to location) for the press passes.  And I promise - this
    T-shirt will NOT disapoint!  
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    
    
110.88Poor JulieDASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Tue Jan 16 1990 09:2824
    re .80
    
    I can vouch that Hawk's daughter is a little doll.  Julie is a cute
    kid who does love basketball.  I've met her, and seen how she follows
    the game which she so loves.  She is also intelligent and witty,
    traits which she obviously inherited from her Mommy, along with
    her beauty and grace.
    
    But, I can't condone the blathering and begging that her father
    is displaying in here.  Why, Julie would just be sooooo ashamed
    of her daddy if she were to witness his pitiful and pathetic pandering
    for tickets to a non-game.  Hawk, you are utterly contemptable!!
    
    Now, being the nice guy that I am, I believe that Julie should get
    to see the game.  She should NOT be punished simply because her
    daddy is a whiney, classless charity-seeking noter.  Sooooooooooooo,
    as much as I would rather not witness a game with a team from that
    sorry state, I hereby volunteer to take Julie to the game, should
    she be selected as the winner!  No applause, please.  Just send
    some strengthening words of encouragement to Hawk, who, if he doesn't
    straighten out his act, will soon be known as Chicken.

    Lee (that's what friends are for)
    
110.89RHETT::KNORRWhat are Julie's thoughts on Dean?Tue Jan 16 1990 10:542
    
    
110.90ACC a Trade Mark of Knorr enterprises....WAV12::FINIZIOBTue Jan 16 1990 11:1421
    
    
    	here's my shot Chris....
    
    Top Ten Reasons why I should go......
    
    1. Big hoops fan
    2. Sat next to Chris for about a year
    3. Always had an available copy of USA Today available for Chris
       to check up on the college hoops.
    4. Never said a bad thing about North Carolina
    5. Never said a bad thing about Dean Smith
    6. Never said a bad thing about J.R.
    7. Always do a NEXT/UNSEEN on T notes
    8. Hired Chris as my consultant when drafting my Rotiss hoop team
    9. Drafted J.R. on said team and have refused all trade offers
    10. I'm a nice guy...:-{)
    
    
    				ACC_Bob
    
110.91^WAV12::FINIZIOBMoe,Larry,Curly,Mr.TTue Jan 16 1990 11:184
    
    
    	Opps...forgot the P-name....
    
110.92Well the race is on...CAM::WAYWhat is is ain't exactly clear...Tue Jan 16 1990 12:4919
Actually, I think this topic should be ToTY (Topic of the Year).

I've had more fun reading the 90+ replies to this, including /Don's
pee-pee-smooching, Hawk's Craven Panderings, MrT's Thersites-like
asides into the fray (T, the Judas p-name had me ROOLLLING), and
all the other stuff.

I don't really care if I win those blasted tix or not, since I've
had enough reward reading these replies.  (Besides, we all know that
my only real competition in the song arena is my most respected rival,
Dan S ...)

Anyway, I'm promising equal time to IU, in a soon to be released
Top 10 hit (after my vacation)....

T, and all other Bob Knight fans will not be disappointed...

later party commandos...
Chainsaw
110.93 STRATA::CAPPELWhat are Dean's thoughts on Julie?Wed Jan 17 1990 03:171
    
110.94The rest of you can give your concession speechesHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonWed Jan 17 1990 03:5583
110.95Here's a Bronx Cheer for DanDASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Wed Jan 17 1990 09:1410
    Whew, after reading Dan's reply, it's obvious that the "I"'s have
    it!  
    
    Dan, how's your arm this morning, after all that self back-patting?
    Geez, you're a MUCH better panderer than Chicken, errr, Hawk!
    
    Here's my "concession speech"- "Try our hotdogs, we got giant pretzles,
    our burgers are better, get a cold Coke right here".  How's that?

    Lee  :*)
110.96SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Wed Jan 17 1990 10:212
       Whattid I tell ya /Don!
                                            Denny
110.97AXIS::ROBICHAUDThe 49ers. A REPEAT performance.Wed Jan 17 1990 10:264
    	Right on the money Denny!  Dan's pretty easy to figure out,
    ain't he?
    
    				/Don
110.98NRADM::KINGFUR...the look that KILLS...Wed Jan 17 1990 10:403
    Simple answer, I would like to go...
    
          REK
110.99Dan beat up by Celtics faithful in Press Box,CAM::WAYBarnes to Rush....he SCORES!!!!Wed Jan 17 1990 11:1118
Okay.  Even though Dan has violently disappointed me (I thought he'd
write a song, instead he put in something about as interesting to
read as an essay from Newsweek) I have to do this:


	/Don, you *WERE* the pee-pee-smoocher of the 90's...

The new title goes to Dan.

	Dan, Pee-Pee-Smoocher Extraordinaire of the New Decade.


BTW, Dan, Absorbine Jr, and a stiff regimen of physical therapy will
return your arm to normal.  But remember, God didn't design it to
bend that way so much....

8^),
Chainsaw
110.100SAGE::ROSSTotally Hidden NoteoWed Jan 17 1990 11:193
Uh, Dan... the line limit was supposed to be 48.  You OT'd by 
35.... Maybe if you go back and delete the words "I", "me", and "mine"
you can get it down to 6 or 7 lines of your best James Worthy dribblings.
110.101Deft touch with that Sam Perkins line Dan!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed Jan 17 1990 11:239
    Wow.  My "Sincerity" metric just shot off the scale, not to mention
    my "Incite to Passion".  Couldn't have asked for a better note to get
    me geared up for the dreaded Dukesters tonight.
    
    Formidable competion gentlemen.  Formidable. 
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.102Rules Clarification.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed Jan 17 1990 11:266
    The "48-line Must Rule" was a suggestion, not a requirement.  When a
    note drips Carolina Blue like Dan's, feel free to continue until disk
    space is exhausted.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.103I cain easily forget all those beers you sponged! :-) SASE::SZABOMake /Don a rich man. Root Broncos!Wed Jan 17 1990 11:393
    So, Dan, who're you going to axe to go to the game with you?
    
    Buzzard
110.104Officials who use quasi-static "rules"CAM::WAYBarnes to Rush....he SCORES!!!!Wed Jan 17 1990 11:575
	o 1972 Olympic Basketball Refs
	o Clemsuck(tm) Refs
	o 1989 NFL Refs regarding replay
	o ACC Chris
110.105Me and Dean are *fair*. Nuf said.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed Jan 17 1990 12:1016
    Not true 1Way.  Here's the exact wording taken from .0:
    
    "Try to keep them within a couple of screens (48 lines) at most."
    
    Notice the word "Try".  I don't want to speak for Dan but I'm willing
    to bet he really *did* try.  But when you're truly passionate on a
    subject, sometimes you just can't help yourself.
    
    Fear not though, this contest ain't over yet.  First of all, there's
    still 10 more days left for people to enter.  Secondly, while Dan's
    note moved me greatly on a couple of counts, it hardly budged the gauge
    on the "Humor" or "Originality" metric.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.106AXIS::ROBICHAUDThe 49ers. A REPEAT performance.Wed Jan 17 1990 13:494
    	Schneider's a phony!  And he'll drink all of your expensive
    Samuel Adams beer too!  And he starts trouble at Giants games!
    
    				/Don
110.107SPORTSgate, coming to a Congress near you!CAM::WAYBarnes to Rush....he SCORES!!!!Wed Jan 17 1990 14:0524
Fix, fix, fix....

First we had Watergate.  Then we had ContraGate, Now we have 
SPORTSgate.

I can see it now:

	Sen. X, (R) Conn. :  Mr Knorr, did you or did you not willing
			     accept bribes, favors, adulation, from
			     Daniel R. Schneider, the notorious
			     troublemaker at Giants games?

	ACC Chris 	  :  I'll take the 5th on that, sir.

	Sen X,		  :  Mr. Schneider, did you, or did you not
			     willingly, and with malic aforethought,
			     go around placing Jets bumperstickers
			     on cars, and peoples material belongings
			     at the Giants game on Aug 26, 1989?

	Dan		  :  "I'm a little teapot - J - E - T - S..."


Oh yeah, I can see it now...
110.108DECXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Wed Jan 17 1990 15:0715
    re .100
    
    Ha ha , nice shot on Dan with that!  Ha ha ha.
    
    Dan, Dan, the pee pee man.  Kinda has a nice right to it, huh? :*)
    
    Hawk, you wouldn't want to go with Dan to this game, and he won't
    take you because he wouldn't want any witnesses seeing him going
    gaga over Larry.  Why, I bet he'll try to soak up some sweat spots
    that he thinks are Larry's.  
    
    God, this could be downright ugly to see.  A champion panderer,
    reduced to a blubbering, quaking hero-worshiper!
    
    Lee
110.109SASE::SZABOMake /Don a rich man. Root Broncos!Wed Jan 17 1990 15:133
    Youse guys is killin' me!
    
    Buzzard
110.110Pandaras Incarnate!CAM::WAYThe Path of Onan brings only blindnessWed Jan 17 1990 15:377
Dan, 1989:

	I'm a little teapot, J E T S....

Dan, 1990:

	Smooch a little pee pee, GO DEAN GO!
110.111You're pandering too Frank. Otherwise you'd enter that IU song! Heh heh!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed Jan 17 1990 16:5512
    Let's leave the government outa this 1Way.  Don't want to stir up any
    trouble between me and my #1 ally.  Plus I'm sure Dan doesn't want to
    start talking politics with me, at least until *after* I've selected 
    my Champeeen.  
    
    (Anyway your logic is bogus cause Dan bought me those fine brews
    months before this ingenious contest was even a vague thought in
    my head.  So there.)
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.112SAGE::ROSSTotally Hidden NoteoWed Jan 17 1990 16:586
I only hope you will go back and re-read all entries when the time comes.
With the contest spread over two weeks, someone might put an entry in
late next week that might be fresher in your mind.

Did you know that if UNC wins tonight, they will tie Kentucky for all
time wins?   Go UNC, what a team!   
110.113SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Wed Jan 17 1990 17:172
       What do ya mean 'if' Doug? Of course they'll win tonight!
                                        Denny
110.114CAM::WAYThe Path of Onan brings only blindnessWed Jan 17 1990 17:3320
re .111:

ACC, first off, I'm not cravenly pandering, since my "song" wasn't
totally a suck-up to ACC Chris UNC song.

I thought it was witty, but that's about it.

I'm not really sure about the brews.  I don't think I mentioned those ;^)

And re the IU song.  I will put it in here (and no matter what I say
in the song, half of the noters in the GREAT IU/NC debate will think
I'm pandaring 8^)) but I won't have time before my vacation.


But, since I leave tomorrow night, I'll be waiting with bated breath
to see who wins....

Chainsaw

PS  I kind of liked SPORTSgate...it had a nice ring to it 8^)
110.115Since your breath is baited...HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonWed Jan 17 1990 18:068
I'm sorry, I haven't had time to defend myself from this defamation of
my character after my brilliant appeal for the press passes.  I was 
sending Chris Knorr some important *career related* information
that has *absolutely nothing* to do with this excellent contest.

Back later.

Dan
110.116How about a contest on why Chris shouldn't pick Dan...WAV12::FINIZIOBYankees in 90'Wed Jan 17 1990 18:274
    
    
    	looks like Dan Sucked up and Ran again...
    
110.117Equal weight, regardless of entry day. My personal guarantee.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed Jan 17 1990 19:2016
    I can assure you Mr.Ross that I will indeed be going back and
    re-reading *all* entries.  No stone will be left unturned, no note
    unread.  All will be put against my 64-Point Must System (tm)
    which, as I've stated, is closely guarded, lest anyone identify where
    my weak points are.  (Unfortunately for the rest of you, Schneid has an
    inside track in this area, having unlocked my passion chest with a few
    brews.  Fortunately for all of you though, his note was hastily written
    and possibly not the best possible effort he could've mustered.  So
    you're all alive and kickin'.)
    
    Frank, you're a panderer and you know it!  How can I hope to judge your
    admittedly formidable note fairly knowing you're gonna jump ship on me?
    [not easily]
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.118NRADM::KINGFUR...the look that KILLS...Wed Jan 17 1990 22:3710
    There is no truth to the rumor that Dan Sch and Dan Fielding of
    the TV show Nightcourt are the same person and have the same goals.
    
             REK
    
    PS Do you now what ACC really means?
    
    A
    Credited
    College
110.119Honesty, sincerity, devotion, and now creativity.HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonWed Jan 17 1990 22:5021
Sung to the tune of....aw, figure it out.

Somewhere, over the parquet,
Way up high,
There's two seats in a pressbox,
Waiting for this special guy.

Where the Globe and Herald mince their words
And bend o'er backwards to praise Bird
Is where I'll be.

Where Johnny Most just rants and raves
Where green fans toast this masquerade
Is where you'll find me.

Oh, somewhere, over the parquet,
Where banners hang,
There's some seats that I should have
To see the Celtics clang.

Dan
110.120SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Jan 18 1990 09:534
    FOUL! FOYL! FOUL!
    Only ONE entry permitted according to the rules!!! This is blatant
    cheating! We should demand Dan's immediate disqualification!!
                                             Denny
110.121SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Jan 18 1990 09:553
    re:.113
       Whattid I tell ya! Duke goes down! BIGTIME!
                                       Denny
110.122Maybe a rap song for IU, I think...CAM::WAYThe Path of Onan brings only blindnessThu Jan 18 1990 10:4524
re .117:

ACC, I'm not going to jump ship.  In the tradition of great Libras 
everywhere, I believe in equal time...(Libras make great negotiation
mediators too...)

So, just because I'm going to do a song for IU doesn't mean I'm jumping
ship.  I mean, I want the tickets just as much as the next guy.
Probably the only teams I wouldn't ever do a song for would be the
Broncos or the hapless Cowboys... ;^)

So, judge it just a fairly as you would the hapless drivel turned out
by Dan....


re Dan:

Dan, you cheat soooooo bad and you know it.  First an essay, then
a song.  Next, you'll probably have a girly-mon cheer in here too.


Chainsaw

PS  This topic is the most fun I've had in here in *ages*!!!!!
110.123Dan's having a notegasmUJEST::ROSSThu Jan 18 1990 11:122
    Did I read Dan's song right?  He wants to be somewhere bending over
    near Larry Bird?   Or did I read that too quickly?
110.124Dan hates JRHEURIS::METZGEREx-NOTYThu Jan 18 1990 12:0013
I'm amazed that Dan has gone to such great lengths to procure a pair of

CELTICS

tickets. Might he actually be another member of the Holy Green Jihad that wishes
to come out of the closet ? Is Dan actually a Celtic fan ?

I think this is a job for Bruce Woodward.....



Metz
110.125CAM::WAYThe Path of Onan brings only blindnessThu Jan 18 1990 13:0813
I think this puts Dan at the top of the all-time Craven Panderer
list.  

Two entries for the Celts tix, alluding to wanting to be near Larry Bird,
wanting something to do with CLANG (Lord only knows WHAT absurd
and unusual practices *that* acronym means....)

Next thing you know, cats and dogs living together, mass-steria..


'Saw


110.126Definate Foul Dan....WAV12::FINIZIOBYankees in 90'Thu Jan 18 1990 13:1313
    
    
    	IF a few people in CXO can convince their bosses that they need
    a DECwindows course taught, and request Dan the Man (tm), oh yeah
    and request that course the first week of Febuary...that just may
    knock Dan out of the running....as Chris did say the person has
    to be in this area that week to qualify......:-), but then again
    which is worst Dan winning the tickets or having to convince your
    boss that Dan is ** THAT GOOD **
    
    
    				RIF
    
110.127Clarification of CLANGWAV12::FINIZIOBYankees in 90'Thu Jan 18 1990 13:176
    
    
    	Clang (tm) is a Jersey term for a mixture of Clorine and Tang...
    	.....Dan usually drinks a glass of it before discussing Wade
    	Boggs or Park effects.....
    
110.129First 2 entries, now this?!:)BTOVT::GREENE_KBo does MAXCIM?(tm)Thu Jan 18 1990 14:2512
    Re: .125
    
    'Saw
    
    CLANG was also a character on BOZO the Clown, a kiddie's show on
    TV in the Boston area during the early 60's. Kind of resembled 
    the Tin Man on the Wizard of Oz.
    
    Dan wanted to do WHAT with CLANG?:)
    
    Kevin
    
110.130FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Thu Jan 18 1990 14:423
    No, it was Clank, the Tin Can Man.  I know my Bozos.
    
    John
110.132DASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Thu Jan 18 1990 14:555
    re .127
    
    Ha ha ha, just love that Clorine and Tang combo for Clang!!!  :*)
    
    Lee
110.133AXIS::ROBICHAUDThe 49ers. A REPEAT performance.Thu Jan 18 1990 14:5513
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    No, it was Clank, the Tin Can Man.  I know my Bozos.
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    John

	Gee John, after all those years of working for the Patriots I guess
you would!  8^)

				/Don
110.134This is NOT a 2nd entryBTOVT::GREENE_KBo knows Diddley about MAXCIMThu Jan 18 1990 15:1314
    Clang, Clank, I still think Dan owes an explanation on what his
    intentions were!
    
    This game is a scheduled televised game (in Charlotte). Do we trust
    that Dan will represent Digital (at least SPORTS) in a manner that we
    can be proud of?!
    
    If Dan is declared the winner, it seems evident and appropriate that
    WCCB be notified so that they are aware of his (potential) behavior
    and can plan camera coverage accordingly.
    
    Do we want this to turn into another Geraldo episode?!:)
    
    Kevin
110.135My record is unblemished, and you're all just jealous! Nah!HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonThu Jan 18 1990 15:220
110.136floorward Slasher...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahCNTROL::CHILDSHockey's Human ZamboniThu Jan 18 1990 15:372
    
    
110.137SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Jan 18 1990 16:023
       Dan caint win. He CHEATED!!! Carolina fans would NEVER stand
    for that, right Chris?
                                      Denny
110.138Dan, cheaters never prosper. Tsk, tsk, tsk...AXIS::ROBICHAUDR.Nixon,M.Noriega,D.SchneiderThu Jan 18 1990 16:551
    
110.139Next Dan will dye his beard Baby BlueWAV12::FINIZIOBYankees in 90'Thu Jan 18 1990 17:036
    
    
    	I agree....If Chris choses Dan, then Chris condones Cheating,
    	and if that's so, then that leaves the door wide open for
    	a Mr. T ACC bashing....uuuummmmmm?
    
110.140Are there pesky gnats in here?HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonThu Jan 18 1990 17:120
110.141Dan and Bozo....CAM::WAYThe Path of Onan brings only blindnessThu Jan 18 1990 17:1925
A Bozo Story:

	I was young, so I don't rightly remember if this happened on
	the Bozo show, or a local variation.

	Anyway, they were engaging in a game of ring toss on the show.
	At some point, presumably when the stakes for cookies got
	to double or nothing, this little kid made a toss and missed.

	"Shit!" exclaimed the youngster.

	"Oooh my!" said Bozo, "That'a a Bozo-no-no!"

	The little kid looked Bozo square in the eye and said:

	"Cram it, clownie!"

	Following the quick commericial break, the kid was no where to
	be found in the participants on stage.....

The moral?

	Don't let Dan win the f*&^*)*&%&$^&ing tickets, since I'm 
	sure he'll embarass us at least that much.  Remember, he
	has not yet explained his intentions with CLANG!
110.142Clang, as in the sound the rim makes when Larry Bird shootsHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonThu Jan 18 1990 17:400
110.143SAGE::ROSSTotally Hidden NoteoThu Jan 18 1990 17:597
>     <<< Note 110.142 by HOTSHT::SCHNEIDER "Some folks trust in reason" >>>
>        -< Clang, as in the sound the rim makes when Larry Bird shoots >-

Dan, what's wrong with Magic Johnson?  He's shooting an all-time low
47%.  Sort of close to Bird, huh?  

Mabrick  Johnson  {tm}... I like the sound of that.
110.144CLANGMCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Thu Jan 18 1990 18:1410
    
    Celtics
    Lover
    And
    Neophyte
    Green-worshipper
    
    -Dick
    
    
110.145?WAV12::FINIZIOBYankees in 90'Thu Jan 18 1990 18:306
    
    
    	>> Clang is the sound the rim makes when Larry Bird shoots
    
    	Is that while your bending over Dan?
    
110.146My #1 contender just got knocked out. He had checkered past.HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonThu Jan 18 1990 20:0711
>Dan, what's wrong with Magic Johnson?  He's shooting an all-time low
>47%.  Sort of close to Bird, huh?  

Chris, do you see this?  Doug's trying to make fun of UNC's James Worthy's
teammate!  Yes, right here in the contest note.

Of course, you should be saying to yourself, anyone that can criticize Magic
Johnson and base it on shooting percentage to top it off, is no basketball
fan and unWorthy of any press passes.

Dan
110.147Not much time left folks!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 19 1990 00:2330
    First, congratulations to Dean & Carolina for kicking the crap out of
    the dreaded Dukesters last night.  King Rice made highly touted Bobby
    Hurley look *sick*, and Deano coached circles around the frustrated and
    thoroughly embarrased Bobby Knight disciple.  45-21 at *halftime*! 
    That's humiliating.
    
    Now to clean up some dirty laundry.
    
    First is the issue of Dan & cheating.  Perfessor Schneider knows full
    well the rules of the contest.  He was only having a little fun yanking
    all you guys Green Chains is all.  I'll disregard his humorous song
    when picking my winner just like I'll disregard all the rest of the 
    pandering notes that have cropped up more times in this file than 
    MrT's hilarious conference rankings notes.
    
    Along these same lines was the possibility raised that Prof Schneid
    would somehow be ineligible cause he can't stand the C's.  HAH!  If
    anything he might get a few *bonus* points for this delicious irony. 
    Imagine tuning in the hideous Johnny Most and hearing some guy in the
    background screaming for the Hornets!  Awesome!!
    
    Finally, the possibility raised by Mr.Finizio that I might somehow make
    a surprise late appearance to the game and rightfully claim my tickets
    has a dramatic sound to it which appeals to me, but unfortunately it's
    out of the question.   Like some member of the 49ers will be saying in
    a week or so, ... "I'm Going to DisneyWorld!".  And so it is with me.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.148T's "burstin' like a boil"!SASE::SZABOShake those honeybuns!Fri Jan 19 1990 10:549
    ACC Chris, now that you admitted that you find MrT's notes entertaining
    and it sounds like you truly do miss his presence (get's boring
    debating with yourself, don't it), I think I cain try to persuade him
    back, or at least, find out what it'll take, that is, if I find 2
    Celtics passes coming my way........
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    Hawk
110.149T-hypocrisy always carries a certain amount of humor I guess.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 19 1990 12:2621
    A little clarification here Hawk.  First, if you bounce over to 25
    you'll find that, in fact, I have invited the ole war horse back.  A
    full pardon no less.
    
    But it has nothing to do with my "missing" him.  It's more the result
    of T's constant mail messages to me begging and pleading that I allow
    him back in, complete with his honor.  Now I'm a hardnosed Republican to
    be sure, but there's always a soft spot in my heart for the poor, the
    downtrodden, the unfortunate.  No matter how dispicable their crime. 
    Hence, my kind act.
    
    As to "humor", you misunderstand.  It was certainly not funny that MrT
    posted the same stupid note in about 10 different notes.  (Okay, maybe
    a little.)  It *was* VERY humorous that MrT suddenly jumped on the
    Objective bandwagon, after *years* of fighting exactly this kind of
    analysis.  Now THAT, my Hawkster friend, is FUNNY!!!!!
    
    Hah!!!!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.151SASE::SZABOMrT dismembered by SPORTS' guillotine!Fri Jan 19 1990 13:132
    
    
110.152ISLNDS::COOKJoeyintheAM&gt;GhinsuKnifeFri Jan 19 1990 13:143
    It's the most we cain expect from "a read only kinda guy"!
    
    TC
110.153AXIS::ROBICHAUDTheFew,TheProud,TheKangaroosFri Jan 19 1990 13:272
    
    
110.154Long overdueSHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyFri Jan 19 1990 13:3018
110.155English Comp 201 about to begin! :-) SASE::SZABOjust an excitable boyFri Jan 19 1990 14:561
    
110.157RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOGod Bless MrTFri Jan 19 1990 17:2115
    Ah MrT.
    
    So glad to read your notes again.  I have tried to mend my past
    ways.  I've seen the error in my thoughts.  To battle with you,
    when I should have been allied.  My past was more like the Vichy,
    when I should have joined the resistance.  Viva La T!
    
    I cain only hope that I'll be able to do penance by helping to clear
    your good name - to ferret out those who beseech you - to once again
    have you note from the highest mount - with morality, with trust,
    with reason, and above all, with integrity and honesty.
    
    God Bless You MrT.
    
    JD
110.158Picking a winner and beating State today will be *tough*.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueSat Jan 20 1990 13:5441
    Contest Update:
    ---------------
    
    As of today (Saturday, 1/20/90) there are a total of 22 bonafide
    entries.  Here's a current list of who's entered, along with their
    respective note:
    
    .2		HUNT
    .4 		REEVE
    .5		STROUT
    .6		PARTEE
    .7		HAAS
    .8		WAY
    .9		ROBICHAUD
    .12		RIEU
    .15		DHAMEL
    .16		GAULKE
    .19		TIMMONS
    .26,.38*	CHILDS  (You've got 2 entered. Which one do you want
    			 to use?  BTW - I'm still waiting on that
    			 little personal favor you were promising me...)
    .37		CAPPEL  
    .51		BROOKS
    .54		VENU
    .73		ROSS
    .80		SZABO
    .83		ASHE
    .84		GREENE_K
    .90		FINIZIO
    .94		SCHNEIDER
    .98		KING
    
    Entries will be accepted up until 12:00 noon (EST) on Friday 1/26/90.
    My winner will be announced over the course of the afternoon, in
    what I hope will be an emotionally charged and exciting event.
    
    Lastly, best of luck to the Heels this afternoon in Raleigh against
    hated rival NC State.    GO HEELS!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.159Go Pack!RAVEN1::B_ADAMSI begin my new life Feb.11th 1990Sat Jan 20 1990 15:131
    
110.160you choose which oneCNTROL::CHILDSHockey's Human ZamboniSun Jan 21 1990 15:504
    
    nobody home last weekend. try again today when I get home.....
    
    mike
110.161It's close folks. *Real* close.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueSun Jan 21 1990 17:1938
    First, congratulations to the Heels for a most impressive win over
    State.  Much maligned King Rice has now outplayed (in succession) 
    Crotty, Hurley, and Corchiani.  Dean has the boys playing like a Top 20
    club once again.
    
    All of this should come as *good news* for those who haven't entered
    the contest yet!  There's plenty of material to work with out there, so
    come on, get those entries in!!
    
    In order to stimulate the contest, I'm going to post my 64-Point Must
    System (tm).  In order to make it fair, no "Bonus Points" will be
    awarded to anyone from here in, to compensate for the edge they may
    receive from knowing the formula.  (Bonus points are exceptionally rare
    and somewhat arbitrary, though clues to getting some are readily
    apparent!)
    
    
    CONTEST FORMULA
    ---------------
    
    A maximum of 64 points are possible.  Categories include:
    
    
    SINCERITY (10 pts)
    HUMOR (10 pts)
    ORIGINALITY (10 pts)
    PRO-CAROLINA SENTIMENT (10 pts)
    EMOTION (10 pts)
    PRO-DEAN SENTIMENT (5 pts)
    PRO-JR SENTIMENT (5 pts)
    "BONUS" POINTS (4 pts)
    
    A perfect score would be 64 points.  Just to show the possibilities,
    the leader as of today has 49 points.  Some come on!  Enter today!! 
    The Press Box is waiting for you!!!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.162AXIS::ROBICHAUDThe 49ers. A REPEAT performance.Mon Jan 22 1990 12:1813
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    .26,.38*	CHILDS  (You've got 2 entered. Which one do you want
    			 to use?  BTW - I'm still waiting on that
    			 little personal favor you were promising me...)

	Hey Mike, wasn't it you moralizing about the brown nosing being done
in here for Celtic tickets?  Looks like you've been exposed.  8^)

				/Don
110.163Tried Bribery but Chris was above it....CNTROL::CHILDSHockey's Human ZamboniMon Jan 22 1990 12:358
    
    /Don, no brown-nosing, I was trying to get in the good ole noter
    fashion way.....
    
    as Jesse would say, "It don't matter how you play the game as long as
    you win".....
    
    mike
110.164Altered to meet the criteria...REFINE::ASHEWalt's Wackos: 1989 FFL champions!Mon Jan 22 1990 19:505
    Reid ain't half the man he was in Carolina blue because he ain't
    playing for Dean, he's got a guy from Wake Forest getting him
    the ball.
    
    -Walt
110.165 RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOSincerity,Integrity,DeanSmithMon Jan 22 1990 21:252
       
    
110.166I do like JD's p-name though.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueTue Jan 23 1990 01:1311
    Weak gentlemen.  Weak.  
    
    This contest is finishing in a fizzle, rather than the blaze of glory
    I'd forecasted.
    
    COME ON.  YOU CAN DO IT.  Why, we tied the Kaintuckians last night
    for most all-time wins.  If that doesn't quicken the pulse and inspire
    some creativity, what will?
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.167SAGE::ROSSOh..oh.. I'm noting..I'm Noting!Tue Jan 23 1990 09:332
I think everyone who's going to make an entry has already.   Why
not move up the decision day?
110.168Dean sucks, Carolina Blew, Reid has a fat ass.SASE::SZABOTue Jan 23 1990 11:347
    Doug "Index" Ross has an excellent point there.  I second the motion.
    This note is beginning to lose it's "flavor"........
    
    Hawk
    
    P.S.  I'm withdrawing my entry cause I ain't gonna win anyhow.  So
          there.  :-)
110.169Sweet 16 to be posted today, unless there's objection.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueTue Jan 23 1990 11:399
    Wow - what a p-name there Hawk.  Ouch.  Ouch!
    
    Perhaps you're right.  Unless I hear objection, the Sweet 16 will be
    posted around noon (EST) today.  So for anyone who was considering
    entering, HURRY.  IT'S NOT TOO LATE.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.170tick, tick, tickLOGOFF::BACHOnward through the fog...Tue Jan 23 1990 11:555
    My late entry:  
    
    If a "Dean" had to lose his head, why'd it have to be Jimmy!
    
    Chip_Who_really_loves_the_Carolina_states_and_Barney_Fife
110.171RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOE Pluribus TarHeelTue Jan 23 1990 12:309
    WO THERE NELLY.  The contest says the contest ends teh 26th.  I
    for one KNOW that all the entries ARE not in yet.  The splash is
    coming.  An extravaganza.  A Cecil B. DeMille epic waits in the
    wings.  Tremble thy mere mortals, thy shamans, thy craven panderers!
    The true voice of Carolina Blue has yet to be heard.  Bow thine
    heads in forgiveness for trying to end this too soon!  THine caint
    be ACC fans if you want to change thine rules!!! How big-10 like!
    
    Sarge
110.172JD is right. Contest stays open until Friday.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueTue Jan 23 1990 12:508
    True enough JD.  Forgive me, and consider the original closure date
    in tact.
    
    All entries will be accepted up until NOON (EST) on Friday, 1/26/89.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.173Not to mention that ridiculous haircut ...LUNER::BROOKSRemember the Massachusetts 54th !Tue Jan 23 1990 14:114
    JR Reid is UGLy and mama dresses him funny.
    Hope that helps, Chris
                     
    DrM
110.175It'll be judged with the rest.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueTue Jan 23 1990 14:227
    Wow.  And you guys thought Dan exceeded the "48-line" rule.  Makes his
    look like a Proverb.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    
110.176It's "s'il tE plait", T ;^).VAXWRK::NEEDLETue Jan 23 1990 14:240
110.177Never thought I'd see THAT in SPORTSDEC25::MCFALLI'm Doomed, now Bo knows Diddely too!Tue Jan 23 1990 14:333
	Wow, an Arnold Toynbee reference. Now THAT'S  impressive, Mr. T!

	Jim M
110.179SAGE::ROSSThrust up and knobby?Tue Jan 23 1990 14:373
Was that in T-ambic pentameter?   

If that one don't [sic] score negative, this contest is rigged.
110.180IAMOK::AHEARNTue Jan 23 1990 14:549
    Re: .171
    
    I don't know why *I* had to get dragged into this conversation!!!!
    
    
    
    Regards,
    
    NELLY
110.181SAGE::ROSSThrust up and knobby?Tue Jan 23 1990 15:002
So who are we waiting for now???  I assume MrT's entry was the one
we were all waiting for?
110.182SASE::SZABOKnobbed up and thrustyTue Jan 23 1990 15:011
    I think JD's working on a 400+ liner.......
110.185SAGE::ROSSThrust up and knobby?Tue Jan 23 1990 15:1719
>          <<< Note 110.182 by SASE::SZABO "Knobbed up and thrusty" >>>
>
>    I think JD's working on a 400+ liner.......

Hawk,

See 110.165... JD's already made his entry.  Although it looks kind
of weak.   Right, ACC Chris?  Or do you skip that one?  


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110.186RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JODean Smith - the best coach ever!Tue Jan 23 1990 15:3610
    No Doug, that wasn't an entry.  Heck, there are a-plenty of mutliple
    entries/notes - why even you've entered more than one note in this
    here topic.
    
    There are still almost 3 full days til the end of the contest.
    Perchance, there will be no more entries, but, perchance their might.
    MrT's entry surprised and delighted me.  I plan to print it out
    and show to Sr. Way tonight at the lingerie show...
    
    Sarge
110.187Bringing Objectivity to new heights ...RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueTue Jan 23 1990 16:3627
    It appears we need a few rule clarifications here, and I'm just the
    fair-minded Dean Smith disciple to do it.
    
    First, while the letter of the law (110.0) states only one entry per
    customer, it's obvious that hasn't been the practice.  Most "official"
    entries are pretty obviously that.  In the case of JD, I haven't seen
    anything that would even hit double digits when held against the Must
    System (tm).  With him being a techno writer and all, I'd have to say
    he hasn't (yet) entered.  The same can be said for most of you.  If you
    want to make a second entry, feel free.  I'll judge it on its merit.
    
    Secondly is the issue of non-NewEnglanders eligibility.  Believe me
    when I tell you that, from the bottom of my heart, I *hate* having to
    restrict the winner based on geography.  It's downright unfair, not to
    mention counter to our high tech bond.
    
    And it's for this reason that I feel especially sad to state that, in
    fact, I MUST stick to the letter of the sacred text (110.0) and deny
    access to said tickets based solely on geography.  Sorry, but that's
    just the way it is.  
    
    HOWEVER ....  You're still eligible for that T-shirt!  Not to mention
    the thrill of victory.  So come on all you lucky non-NewEnglanders. 
    Don't let MrT intimidate you!  You could win this thing!!!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.188T doesn't stand a chance, not when he's got me to contend w/VAXWRK::SCHNEIDERRah! Rah! Bronx! Go, Bronx!Tue Jan 23 1990 16:381
    
110.190MrT. SPORTS Subjective Analyst.RHETT::KNORRBobbyFight(tm),Isiah,TheChair,TheFanTue Jan 23 1990 18:0134
>    So that's the way it is, eh Cyst?

Yup.  My contest.  My rules.  I won the tickets fair and square, so
rightfully they're mine to do with as I see fit.  (Right, Nazz?!  Heh!)
Bottom line:  Na-na-na-na-naaaa-naaaaaa!!!111
    
>    Lure people in here pretending to be seeking input on his school's
>    coach when in reality his purpose is to experience the pleasure
>    of relegating many of us to second class citizenship, like me for
>    instance, branded "bad meat" simply cuz I live in the midwest.

If you reread the sacred text you'll find my intent was not to seek
"input", but rather "praise".  Only by my good graces and thoroughly
Objective nature would such a foul entry as yours even be considered.
    
>    This is wrong.  Fundamentally wrong and unAmerican to boot.  If
>    I were awarded the tickets they'd be used.  Nazz could hand them
>    off to whomever I or other remote types selected.  

All of this, of course, presumes that you're gonna win, which is a pretty
reaching conclusion seeings how you're gonna come up awfully dry in
the pro-Carolina (10 pts), pro-Dean (5 pts), pro-JR (5 pts), and "Bonus"
Points (4 pts) categories.  You've already tossed (almost) 24 points, giving 
you a best possible score of 40, assuming you get a Perfect "10" on the
4 other categories.  And unlike gymnastics judges, I'm particularly
frugal in awarding 10's.  (Actually, I think Cap has the only one.  He
got a "10" for sincerity.  :^( )
    
40 points (or even significantly less) *would* put you in solid position for 
that T-shirt though!


- ACC Chris
    
110.191COOKIE::MJOHNSTONO Ye of little face!Tue Jan 23 1990 18:127
Hey JD!

	Tell Sr Way I said to chug some JackD in my name. By Five O'clock
Seattle time, I'll be firmly ensconced in my favorite watering hole, and, as
Kelly Bundy once said " I'll post a toast to the `Saw with the most! "

Mike JN
110.192You may now end the contest...RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JODean and the Heels are #1Tue Jan 23 1990 18:48152
         Ode to Dean, the TarHeels, and everything.

         A Tobacco Road Extravaganza

Site:  The DeanDome, the partheon of college hoops.
The cast:  All of Dean's players - a veritable who's who in Hoop history.
           All of them bright, articulate, outstanding members of
           the community.
           Dean - he plays himself.  Only Charlton Heston, who practiced
           for the role by playing Moses, could be considered for Dean's
           part.

           The admiring throng - led by all other hoop coaches, past and
           present, who look upon Dean with awe and respect.  

The Scene: A musical retrospective of Dean, the Tarheels, and all that
           they stand for.

First Scene:  To the tune of "There's No Business"  

There's no coaching like Dean's coaching
The best coaching we'll ever know
Everything about is fantastic..
Every game is simply superb
No one can ever ever match him
When it comes to coaching hoops

There's no players like Dean's players
The finest in the land
Each one is scholarly
Classy and three-dimensional
No one can ever ever defeat them
On or off the court

There's no fans like Tarheel fans
The classiest ever to root
Everyone is full of vigor
As they cheer ol' blue on
No one can ever ever deflate them
When it comes to cheering the Heels

There's no coaching like Dean's coaching....

(At this point, the music changes to a tune, sung to "Nothing could
 be finer.."

Nothing could be finer 
Than to be in North Carolina
During Hoops season...
Chapel Hill's the place to be
To see be finest hoop in America
During Hoops season
The Tarheels they be jamming
Slamming and defending
During Hoops season
Dean he be coaching
The wins fast approaching
During hoops season

(At this point, the music fades to the tune of "Rudolph the Red-Nosed
Reindeer)

You've heard of Wooden and THompson, Mikek and BobbySpite,
But do you recall, the greatest coach of them all!!!!
Dean Smith, the finest coach in the land
And if you've ever seen him, you'd have to give him a big hand
Dean Smith, has the finest team in the land
As they march on to vic-to-reeeeee

(At this point, the poignant beginnings of "Jesus Christ, Superstar,
 echo through the Dome..)

J.R. Reid Superstar
Another in a long line of Tarheel stars
J.R. Reid - He's Complete
Just like all of Dean's players
J.R. Reid - Dominant
Just like James and Micheal
J.R. Reid - Number ONE
Just like Kenny, Phil, and Bobby Jones


(The music abruptly stops, a trumpet blares, and "The Marine Hymn" 
 wafts through the air...)

From the gyms of the ACC.
To the dome in New Orleans
the Heels pile up the victories
By coaching, teamwork, and talent
First in the tourney, they always play it clean
I'm proud to cheer for 
the North Carolina Tar Heels..

(To change the mood, we move into a "Wizard of Oz")

We're off to see the Dean, the wonderful Dean of coaches
Because, because, because he's the best there's ever been
If ever there was a coaches coach to coach a coach then Dean's that coach
He's the superest of all time!!!! And that's an undeniable fack....
We're off to see the Dean, the wonderful Dean of coachinnngggg

(To go modern, we now here Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody start...)

Mama, just shook Dean's hand
Sent a shiver down my spine
Body quivering all the time
Mama, just met the man
And I know I've reached the top
Mama, ohhhohhh
Caint believe my luck
He smiled at my daughter toooooo
Dean, he really matters....

(As we near the end, this song needs no introduction...)

There they come justa swooping down the court
Singing We're the heels gonna rip you all apart
Micheal and James gonna soar through the air
Singing We're the heels gonna tear you all apart
They play smart, (play smart), score a lot (score a lot)
Gonna win all the time (gonna win all the time)
They're on top nearly every single year
Singing Dean Smith he's the very very best
Winning the ACC with precision regularity
Singing Dean Smith he's the very very best
He works hard (works hard), plays clean (plays clean)
Gonna win it all for him (gonna win it all for him)


(At this point, the music takes a triumphant swing to "God Bless America"

God Bless the Tar Heels
Team that I love
Stand beside them, and cheer them
To another victory
Dean Smith, super coach
He's the greatest we've ever SEEEEENNNNN
GOD BLESS THE TAR HEELS
The team we all love,
GOD BLESS THE TAR HEELS
America, personified.


At this point, the DeanDome is  shaking.  The noise is thunderous.
Fireworks light the sky, casting a beautiful Carolina Blue over the
Chapel Hill countryside.  The chant of "TARHEELS.....TARHEELS" reverberates
through the land.  There isn't a dry eye in sight.

There it is.  My humble entry.

JD
                   
110.193Good one Sarge but I was pukin...CNTROL::CHILDSBroncos&amp;AmericanStandardafinepairTue Jan 23 1990 18:588
    
    hey Chris did you wet your pants over that one?  ;^)
    
    too much, this contest has certainly brought out some great stuff
    
    thanks for having it Chris....
    
    mike
110.194SAGE::ROSSThrust up and knobby?Tue Jan 23 1990 19:045
Okay, we've heard from the Far West and Middle America... Why make us
wait til Friday?   

JD: I thought I was a pandering pimp of putrid pulp until I read your
    reply. :-)   
110.195I was sincere...RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JODean and the Heels are #1Tue Jan 23 1990 19:088
    Doug,
    
    Pandering?  Moi?  Shirley you jest.  I bleed Carolina Blue.
    I was fearful that the mob would close the contest early, so
    I had to rush in.  I could have gone another 150 lines easily.
    I still had the star-spangled banner to sing....
    
    Sarge
110.196STOP THE CONTEST! STOP THE CONTEST!!RHETT::KNORRBobbyFight(tm),Isiah,TheChair,TheFanTue Jan 23 1990 19:1011
    Wa wa wa wa wa woooowwwww!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111
    
    Truly an *OUTSTANDING EFFORT*, JD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111
    
    My bloodpressures up.  My pants are damp.  My Must System (tm) meters
    are pinned on "10"!!!!!11111  
    
    Kinda makes that MrT entry look kinda sick, now don't it?
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.197Trying to regroup here.RHETT::KNORRBobbyFight(tm),Isiah,TheChair,TheFanTue Jan 23 1990 19:1311
    Okay, now that I've regained control of my bodily functions, let my
    apologize for my blatant emotional outburst.  Dean wouldn't be pleased,
    but even The Great One has been known to whoop and holler on occasion!
    
    The contest remains open until Friday at lunch.  Lordy help me if
    anybody tops that entry.  The ole ticker might not survive judging
    it!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.198COOKIE::MJOHNSTONO Ye of little face!Tue Jan 23 1990 19:2012
JD

	I have no problem whatsoever with the fact that you utilize such
emotion laden images to make your point. Or the fact that you trivialize such
revered figures as Moses, Rudolph, Jesus Christ, The Wizard of Oz, The Queen,
Classic Rock `n Roll, God, and America.

But when you drag My Corps into this, I can only surmise that you have lost all
contact with reality, and become a nattering nabob of negativistic nonsense.
                   
Respectfully Yours
Mike JN
110.199Please check those obits againSHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyTue Jan 23 1990 20:1915
    JD,
    
    I think your entry ought to be immediately disqualified.  That is
    cruel and inhuman torture at its absolute worst.    Weapons such
    as yours are forbidden by the Geneva Convention.
    
    Unless ???  Unless I *really* have died and been sent to that
    really hot place ???
    
    If this really is HELL, and if they're going to keep on playing
    JD's medley, then I'm in for a l-o-n-g forever down here.
    
    Say a prayer for my soul, boys ...
    
    Bob Hunt
110.201No tix for JDWMOIS::COOK_TWed Jan 24 1990 14:466
    If ACC chris is holding to the geography bit then JD should only be
    in the running for the T-Shirt.   Just because he used to be an
    East_Coast_Techno_Weenie doesn't count!
    
    TC who's going to enter the greatest contest on Earth!
    
110.202RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JODean Smith :== IntegrityWed Jan 24 1990 14:518
    I agree with T.  All should be able to win the Tix, regardless of
    geography.  And TC, how dare you call me a techno-weenie, I'm a
    non-techno-weenie.  I don't even know how to do line feeds and stuff
    like that.   Needle and Lufay are technoweenies.
    
    See, I should win the Tix, so I could raffle em off in a contest...
    
    JD
110.203Having 2nd thoughts here ...RHETT::KNORRBobbyFight(tm),Russians,CoachKWed Jan 24 1990 15:2912
    Negative boys.  The TIX are *MINE*.  Just go and ask Nazz if ya want
    to.  So there!
    
    JD, perhaps you *should* clear up some rather nasty allegations MrT
    made.  I'm beginning to "read between the lines" a bit on your
    admittedly emotional note.  
    
    What gives fella?
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.204RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOSmith,Lincoln,GhandiWed Jan 24 1990 16:2110
    ACC Chris,
    
    Are you going to listen to the rantings of MrT?  The man who ripped
    Dean and praised BobbyFight (tm) for 276 lines?  Caint you see he's
    trying to hoodwink you into not believing the sincerity of my 
    ode to UNC?  My P_Name sums up my feelings.
    
    I'm above reproach.  Read between the lines, indeed.
    
    JD
110.205Mama,Don't let your children growup to be HoosiersRIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOSmith,Lincoln,GhandiWed Jan 24 1990 16:302
    
    
110.206 RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOCarolina Blue,to you I'm TrueWed Jan 24 1990 16:312
    
    
110.207Thanks JD. I'm fears are sufficiently quieted. :^)RHETT::KNORRBobbyFight(tm),Russians,CoachKWed Jan 24 1990 16:422
    
    
110.208 RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOMrT :== CRAVEN panderer!Wed Jan 24 1990 16:441
    
110.209RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOMrT :== CRAVEN panderer!Wed Jan 24 1990 16:5617
    Chris,
    
    I really think you should think about your geography rule.  Let
    anyone win, but if the person is geographically unable to go (such
    as myself), let them,through your blessing, give the ticket to another
    deserving sole.  This way, the winner, no matter the location, will
    get to feel the thrill of victory, and the passes won't go to waste.
    
    As a fellow ACC fan, you must understand my plea for fairness. 
    Dean would WANT it that way.  Of that I'm sure.
    
    restricting the contest seems to have a Big10 or BigEast feel to
    it...
    
    Humbly yours.
    
    JD
110.210AXIS::ROBICHAUDPlato,Homer,Voltaire,DeanSmithWed Jan 24 1990 16:577
    	As much as he's a fellow competitor in this contest I must confess
     that as long as I've known JD he's been a Tar Heel booster.  He
    even painted his lats blue and white at the last RedSox/Tigermania.
    And I for one, would love to see someone bring his musical to Broadway.
    It's a guaranteed Toni winner JD.
    
    				/Don
110.211More than just tickets at stake here.RHETT::KNORRBobbyFight(tm),Russians,CoachKWed Jan 24 1990 17:1243
    Hmmm.  Surprised to see you in favor of this, /Don, what with your own
    extremely solid entry in The Contest.  I can only conclude that there's 
    some e-mail bargains being struck here.  This kind of implication doesn't
    serve you well in the "Bonus Points" arena /Don, believe me.  (And this
    contest is *so* close, I can guarantee you those 4 points will make the
    difference.  :^| )
    
    		  ^
    	          |
    		  |
    		  |
    
    
    	     (That symbol is my "game" face boys.
    	      The one I usually reserve only 
              for those times between Chilcutt's
    	      opening tap and King's icing free
    	      throws.)
    
    True JD, non-discriminating geography is a trademark of UNC (if not the
    ACC).  But the fact remains we've collected the majority of our
    ballplayers from the East Coast.  In fact, Scott Williams is the ONLY
    Left Coast ballplayer we've ever landed.  So I've gotta toss that line
    of reasoning.
    
    In all truthfulness though, the winner will receive two (2) items of
    far more lasting significance than attending a (probably boring)
    basketball game.
    
    1. The knowledge, esteem, bragging rights, and pride associated with
       WINNING the whole darn enchilada.  (Please, no Title cracks.)
    
    2. A T-shirt that carries with it much significance.  I'd like to think 
       of this thing as a SPORTS heirloom.  Something that will endure for the
       ages.  For our future generations.  Perhaps it'll be passed from noter
       to noter over the course of years, but it will be a symbol of SPORTS. 
       A SPORTS Olympic Torch if you will.  
    
    Indeed gentlemen, there's *far* more at stake this week than attending
    a lousy C's game.  
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.212Hey I'm just sticking up for truth, justice and the American way.AXIS::ROBICHAUDIn memory of Al CoteWed Jan 24 1990 17:131
    
110.213This will end the contest here and now......SASE::SZABOWed Jan 24 1990 17:2027
    re: .210
    
    Hey Slasher, did JD promise you the tickets too?  :-)
    
    
    Anyway, Cyst, er Crisp, damn, I mean, Chris, I too cain vouch for the
    sincerity of one John Milhouse Devlin for being a true blue, no, make
    that, baby blue athletic supporter.  Hail, those blue and white painted
    lats that Slash Don told you about is just the beginning.  See, along
    wif' his sincerity, JMD is wicked modest, otherwise, you'd have no
    problem wif' your choice of a contest winner.  
    
    And here's the kicker, the ultimate reason why this man is the winner.
    I promised that I'd never reveal this, but sorry JD, I cain't let you
    lose this contest over such perverse accusations such as fraud, but, I
    hereby now reveal that, John Milhouse Devlin is the love child of Mr
    Tar Heel himself, Dean Smith.  There.  It's out now.  You cain live
    your life with one less burden, JMD, Son of Tar Heel!
    
    So, there you have it Chris.  You have no choice but to declare JMD the
    unanimous winner.  And, to maintain the integrity of this here contest,
    you must strike the jography stipulayshun.  Besides, Sonny already
    promised me, not Slash Don, those tickets!
    
    How'd I do, JD?
    
    Hawk
110.214I wuz promised no tickets! I am a man of honor!AXIS::ROBICHAUDIvanTheTerrible,Stalin,BobKnightWed Jan 24 1990 17:221
    
110.215But of course I will honor my commitmentLEAF::NAZZARODean Smith is scared of UMassWed Jan 24 1990 17:2511
    Three observations:
    
    1) I wish I never made the ticket offer to Chris.
    
    2) Strange to see a contest where the guy running it responds more than
       the people entered in it.
    
    3) I'm amazed so many people would degrade themselves so disgustingly
       just to see the $&**^%*$ Charlotte Hornets.
    
    NAZZ
110.216SASE::SZABOWed Jan 24 1990 17:284
    Hey Nazz, if you give me some complimentary tickets, I promise not to
    "pimp" them in a contest and go to the game with my little girl.
    
    Hawk
110.218hahaha!!!LEVERS::STROUTknocking on heaven's door...Wed Jan 24 1990 17:331
    
110.219RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOMrT :== CRAVEN panderer!Wed Jan 24 1990 19:0510
    Hawk,
    
    What are you implying?  I don't know what you are talking about.
    I've not prostituted myself to anyone - let along offer tickets!
    OBviously a ploy to degrade my entry, in the hope you, or your cohorts,
    would win in the confusing.
    
    I caint believe how looooww folks will get.  My haid is spinning.
    
    JD
110.220Nazz *is* a man of honor, however.RHETT::KNORRBobbyFight(tm),Russians,CoachKWed Jan 24 1990 19:209
    > I wish I never made the ticket offer to Chris.
    
    No, you mean you wish you'd never made a *bet* with me.  THAT, my
    Celtic friend, was your undoing!
    
    Hah!!!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.221Where is Al Cote??RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOAttacked by gnats!Wed Jan 24 1990 21:039
    I still am reeling over h'awks note.  first, he panders by playing
    his child card as a way to steal the contest.  Then, he badmouths
    Dean.  Now, he indicts me on blatently false charges, and starts
    calling me Milhouse.  Why?  At least /Don has remained honest
    and full of integrity, as a true blue TarHell should!
    
    Still aching overthe false accustations.  
    
    JD
110.223SASE::SZABOIAmNotAPanderer-JohnMilhouseDevlinThu Jan 25 1990 11:002
    
    
110.224And a thanks to MrT for pointing this out to me. Thanks, T.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueThu Jan 25 1990 11:0115
    Aaahheeemmmm.  I do believe you've got a serious typo in your last note
    JD.  Unless of course this is another subtle "between the lines" jab at
    the Heels.
    
    First you embarass me with some tricky high-brow subtleties in your
    Contest Entry.  Then you bribe /Don to trumpet your own horn,
    undoubtedly on the promise of copping one of the 2 "winning" tickets.
    Then a Freudian slip, calling our boys in blue "TarHell"'s.
    
    You're slipping JD.  Slipppiiiinnnggggg .....
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    
110.225I cannot be bribed!AXIS::ROBICHAUDOverrated Hoosiers lose again...Thu Jan 25 1990 11:121
    
110.226bribesSALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Jan 25 1990 11:322
       I know /Don, /Don's no congresscritter!
                                          Denny
110.227RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOI love Dean SmithThu Jan 25 1990 13:148
    Chriss,
    
    The typo was  a typo.  I was so upset at Hawks allegations.  I bribe
    no one.  I humbly submitted an entry to your fine contest.  I finally
    let my true colors show.  And the jackles and hyenas and birds of
    prey come to pounce on me.  Tis a said state of affairs...
    
    JD
110.228SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Jan 25 1990 13:264
       Why would JD try to lie and cheat his way to the tickets anyway?
    He caint even use the dang things! I say give him an equal shot
    and let him decide what to do with them. 
                                          Denny
110.229SASE::SZABOThu Jan 25 1990 13:298
    Amen, Denny!  I resemble JMD's honesty, integrity, and wholesomeness!
    
    JMD, I's just trying to help you get me those tix!  Hail, there ain't
    no flies on me!
    
    HTH.
    
    H'awk
110.231UNCMILPND::VLASAKRoad WarriorThu Jan 25 1990 15:0059
UNC,
UNCanny in the ways of winning!

UNCap the offense with
UNCeasing pressure on
UNCertain opponents!

UNCeremoniously wump 'em,
UNChain thy offense, be
UNCharitable to the heathens,
UNChaste and
UNChristian!

UNCial script shows them to be
UNCircumcised,
UNCivil,
UNClad louts,
UNClasp thyself from these
UNClean!

UNClench your fists,
UNClose the curtains,
UNClothe them for what they are!

UNCoil thy defense, 
UNComfortable will be the enemy
UNCommitted to fight such an
UNCommon oppenent!

UNCommunicative they turn,
UNCompromising are we,
UNConcern for their shame,
UNConditional the surrender
UNConquerable!

UNConscionable!, they scream,
UNConsciously they say it's
UNConstitutional!

UNControllable,
UNConventional offense
UNCorks
UNCounted points!

UNCouple thselves from 
UNCouth defenders
UNCover and shoot!

UNCross your fingers for it does you no good!
UNCtion will not salve you
UNCtuous creatures...none
UNCut!

UNClear?  

UNChallenged and
UNChecked, the final victory is
UNContested, the opponents have cried...
                                        UNCle!
110.232LOGOFF::BACHI don't work for no 'ToonThu Jan 25 1990 15:225
    wait a minute, the entire "U" section of my dictionary is missing!!
    
    Has someone seen it?
    
    UNConstipated
110.233One bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch, T.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueThu Jan 25 1990 15:4521
T, I admit I was dupped by the shifty JD.  I suspect this was due to a
rather unfortunate comment I made regarding this fine marathoners "physique"
at the Noters gathering over Christmas, but I can't change history.  JD, 
consider ourselves even.  Perhaps it's my naive, open, "friendly" personality
that let me get drawn into this treachery.  (As opposed to the cranky, cynical,
evil traits of my notorious rival.) I don't know.  

But in any case I'm fully confident that the majority of pro-Carolina notes
are 100% sincere.  No question.  As an example I hold up .94, which is
Dan Schneider's fine entry and a front runner to reach the Final 4.  That
note *drips* with sincerity.  

The unfortunate part of this whole thing is that "Sincerity" only counts
toward 10 points in the published formula.  As such, JD's entry (as well
as your obscene one :^( ) will be judged fairly and could even win.
:^( :^(


- ACC Chris
    
    
110.234RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOLouie and the Redman #1Thu Jan 25 1990 15:468
     I caint believe you Chris. T has a stranglehold on you. He's got
    you mired in self-doubt.  And I can't believe you mentioned Dan
    Schneider and sincerity in the same note - he don't care about UNC,
    he simply wants to go to the game.
    
    I duped no one...
    
    JD
110.235You may win, but what about your integrity man?!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueThu Jan 25 1990 15:5012
    Nope.  Dan's sincere.  He loves Dean & Carolina, on that I can assure
    you.  (Something about our New York/New Jersey connections I believe.)
    
    Don't worry though JD.  As I pointed out, just cause I know you're
    insincere (I wasn't sure until that Fruedian "Tarhell" comment, BTW)
    you could still win.  Sincerity is only 1 category, and I can only
    (officially) base that on the actual Contest Entry note.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    
110.236SASE::SZABOGW, AL, FDR, JFK, RFK, JMDThu Jan 25 1990 16:052
    
    
110.237RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOLouie and the Redman #1Thu Jan 25 1990 16:2112
    Chris,
    
    I'm from New York - I have more of the connection than Dan.
    You've let T melt your brain.  Sincerity is my middle name!
    THe hours I spent working on my entry - I knew I should have waited
    til it was complete.
    
    T and Dan both seem to be influencing you - you must be confused
    as they pull at your ying and yang, tearing your spirital innards
    to shreds.....
    
    JD
110.239Re-entry. MrT covers for Knight like Lefty did for Bias!SAGE::ROSSCliff CravenThu Jan 25 1990 16:3948
A is for ACC, the top hoop group in the land;
B is for Basketball, Tar Heels are leaders of the band;
C is for Coach, with Smith, you need say no more;
D is for Dean, the only man I do adore; 
E is for Effort, you give it or Dean sit's you;
F is for Four corners, invented by you-know-who;
G is for Great, the program, the coach, the players;
H is for Heaven, Coach Smith can answer all our prayers;
I is for Ice, Smith is coolest under fire;
J is for Jammin', by J.R Reid or Jordan, made Terry Holland a crier;
K is for Koach K, Duke's ferret-faced Knight-offspring;
L is for Losses, an uncommon Tar Heel thing;
M is for Michael, also known as "Air";
N is for is for NCAA's, Dean always gets them there;
O is for Olympics, Dean should be Coach for life;
P is for Point guard, Phil Ford can have my wife;
Q is for Quest, for the best, is all Smith can do;
R is for Reid, J.R, my mane mimics his awesome 'do;
S is for Senator, Smith would stomp on Jesse Helms;
T is for Tournament, in the ACC, NC overwhelms;
U is for Uwe Blab, Dean wouldn't recruit that dork;
V is for Victory, Coach delivers them like the stork;
W is for Worthy, awesome and 3D;
X is for "eXcellent!!!", Bill and Ted would agree
Y is for Youth, Dean doesn't rebuild - just  reloads;
Z is for Zenith, UNC is the pinnacle of Tobacco Road!!!

======

Not that it matters, but on February 8th {the day after a very special
Celtics game against the up-and-coming Hornets and their awesome center
J.R. Reid}, I will be flying down to Charlotte to pursue career opportunities.
What made me consider the offer {having spurned Orlando, Detroit, and
Landover}?   The housing market?  Maybe.   The climate?  It's a definite
plus.  The good job?  Perhaps.     No, I would have to say it's the chance
to get into the UNC area at the onset of the "Team of 90's".   When
Eric Montross decides to attend North Carolina, the fate of the ACC and
NCAA tournaments will be sealed for 1991-1994.   UCLA-East will exist
at Chapel Hill.   I want to be there.      It would be nice to see the
Celtics last gasp before I head south

My son Michael Dean "J.R." Ross will get to grow up on the playgrounds 
where James Worthy first jammed.   He will blossom into a team player,
a Matt Doherty-type with a J.R. Reid haircut.   When he signs that letter
of intent to attend UNC, both I and my wife Gail "King" Ross will be
the happiest parents on the face of this earth.   

Sincerely, I thank you for your time.   Very sincerely. 
110.240A truly "WORTHY" entry DougAXIS::ROBICHAUDThe 49ers. A REPEAT performance.Thu Jan 25 1990 17:171
    
110.241SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Jan 25 1990 17:392
       It 'Blue' me away!
                                       Denny
110.242TOMORROW'S THE DAY!!!!!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueThu Jan 25 1990 19:1330
    Tomorrow's the big day gentlemen!  Much as I hate to see it end (I'm sure
    the rest of you share my sadness - especially you Nazz) the winning
    noter will be crowned!!
    
    The deadline for entry is 12:00 NOON (EST).   I'll have the Sweet 16
    whittled down by approx. 1:00 EST.  Then, during a fun-filled Friday 
    afternoon, we'll whittle it down to the Elite 8, The Final 4, and
    yes, a Titlest!
    
    Awards will be presented to:
    
    1. Bragging Rights.  This is the most important award, yet it offers
       no materialistic prize.  Just the knowledge that they were THE 
       BEST THAT THEY COULD BE.  Of course, the outright winner will also
       win either item #2 or #3, depending on their geography.
    
    2. A T-Shirt.  This (IMO) is the most valuable prize.  It was presented
       to me by my Westboro SPORTS cronies.  I kind of consider it a
       SPORTS heirloom.  Guard it well, ye who wins it.  The winner of this
       will be the highest finisher beyond the geographic boundaries of
       Boston Garden.
    
    3. Two (2) Press Box seats to the 2/7 Charlotte Hornets @ Boston Celtics.
       The winner of these will be the highest finisher within the
       geographic boundaries of Boston Garden.
    
       Good luck to all!!!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.243I like JR Reid. Give me the tickets.VAXWRK::NEEDLEThu Jan 25 1990 19:280
110.244Keep them!RAVEN1::B_ADAMSI begin my new life Feb.11th 1990Thu Jan 25 1990 20:0510
110.245plllleeeesee gimme a ticket !LUNER::BROOKSRemember the Massachusetts 54th !Thu Jan 25 1990 20:181
    I'm the love child of JR Reid and I've never seen play.
110.246What the heck!!NRADM::KINGFUR...the look that KILLS...Thu Jan 25 1990 23:2134
 After reading some of the contest entries I have decided to enter a  real 
good try... I know that Chris has me down for one already but here goes my 
best shot!



In a true Joe Isuzu form and imatation...


Ahh yes, the ACC conference.. Winners of the most NCAA Championships
of any conference... COMBINED!
Every Senior that has started an ACC game as graduated at the top 5% of 
his or her class.
We in the ACC has never thrown a chair across the court... But the stands 
are open season...
We killed the big east this year!! But only in games that we played south 
the the ACC Capital...
THe BIG TEN... change the letters and you get beKnigHtt...
The ACC where men are men and Basketball players are imported..
The Big East... Where you get players from the Middle East...
The ACC Where the four corners changed basketball from a coaching game to 
to run and gun game.
The ACC where a peach means a great point guard  not a fruit that you pick.
The ACC where basketball was founed...
ACC where the 45 second clock was started... and stopped when we needed it 
to.
The NCAA wher they finally nailed the Big Ten on Cheating (Ill) We would 
never stoop that low.
NC State... Jim is not a true ACC coach... A true ACC coach coach would 
never get caught.

Trust me!!! The official car of the ACC Isuzu!!!
                  Joe Isuzu

110.247Here is my real entrySTRATA::CAPPELHomer,Plato,Knight,SmithFri Jan 26 1990 06:5938
    Here Chris is truly the only entry that is true, to the point and
    doesn't attempt to kiss up to yours and JR's big ol' butt.. :-)
    Don't worry for all of you that have kissed up, even though I'm
    in Mass, I'm a hoosier which automatically disqualifies me from
    winning.
    
    Dean Smith is one of the best coaches that the game has known, which
    can be seen by his ACC Conference Titles, NCAA titles and his
    incredible run of consecutive NCAA appearances. He is a model of 
    consistency, teaches great fundamentals and runs a very clean program
    which stresses academics, sportsmanship and great basketball.  He
    is, with the exception of John Wooden, the greatest recruitor in
    the game and constantly supplies UNC with great talent.  Another
    mark of a good coach is the success of the men who trained under
    him.  Many of his players go on to stardom in the NBA and the assistant
    coaches who worked under him are successful in the college game.
    
    Now on the down side, he honestly has had the most talent of any
    coach since John Wooden.  For whatever reason (and maybe this is unfair)
    his teams have not been able to live up to the expectations that
    are placed on them during the season.  Call it choking or whatever
    you want the fact remains that with the talent he has had in the
    late 70's and 80's, he should have walked away with more titles
    than just one.  I can think of several NC squads that were much
    more talented than the IU squads that won in the 80's.  Also he
    at times gets outcoached in game situations, now don't take me wrong
    he's a good game coach, but since the shot clock was instituted
    he tends to let his teams play undisciplined(When he ran the 4-corners,
    UNC was the most disciplined team in the country) and it costs them
    when they are playing teams that are either as athletic as they
    are(like Maryland this year) or teams that play patient and smart(like 
    Duke or Indiana).
    
    All in all, Dean is good for the game and should go down as one
    of the better coaches in basketball history.
    
    Cap
    
110.248Duly noted and entered.RHETT::KNORRCap: Suffering insomniacFri Jan 26 1990 11:062
    
    
110.249No T-shirt, just tix please!WMOIS::COOK_TJoeyintheA.M.&lt;CoachKnightFri Jan 26 1990 11:1815
    This is my offical entry
    
    If J.R. Reid is gonna be stacking plates, I wanna be there!  I
    understand that Mr. T cain't hold a plate to J.R.  I been to North
    Carolina, and Massachusetts sir is no North Carolina!  As far as Dean
    Smif goes just check out the ole p-name.  The saddest day in
    Charlotte's franchise was the day they cut Greg kite!  And they'll
    always regret trading Kurt (franchise) Rambis.  Anybody who cain get a
    Dome named after hisself must be a god(tm).  And here's my
    bum-smooching statement:	"I'm a Read Only Kinda Guy!
    (T-hypocrisy(tm))!!
    
    Humbly Yours,
    TC
    
110.250honorAUNTB::HAASDie, laugh I thought I'dFri Jan 26 1990 11:318
technical nit to .247:

>    can be seen by his ACC Conference Titles, NCAA titles and his
							 ^

Truth in advertising should get me a T-type-shirt (tm).

TTom
110.251Metz sucks up for the tickets.....HEURIS::METZGEREx-NOTYThu Jan 25 1990 14:4153
Sung to the tune of gilligans island....
*****************************************


Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
A tale of college hoop.
Lay back and enjoy it 
You'll get the whole scoop....

The coach was a mighty recruiting man. 
The center tall and smart.
Five superstars played ball that day,
JR was sure to start
Was sure to start

The team fell behind real quick.
The opposition was fouling Reid.
If not for the coaching of Reverend Smith,
Things would be bleak indeed
Would be bleak indeed.

UNC will come back to win,
This championship game.
With JR Reid,
The Reverend too,
Mike Jordan and Daugherty. 
The multi-dimensional James
and the rest.
The ACC's best
Here at The University.....


  *** Closing Credits ***

Now here is the tale of the best hoop team
ever to grace the floor.
They all come from UNC
They'd kick bobbies team out the door.

JR and the Reverend too
Will do their very best,
To make sure that the other teams
Call the ACC the best.

No swearing,no fights, no Mr T.
not a single recruiting scam.
Unlike Clemson's program,
UNC's the best in the land.

So join us here each week my friend
You're sure to get a smile.
From the top hoops program in the country
Carolina's the best by a mile....
110.252IT'S OVER. NO MORE ENTRIES SHALL BE ACCEPTED.RHETT::KNORRCap: Suffering insomniacThu Jan 25 1990 15:042
    
    
110.253The lights are flashing. Nothing yet.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueThu Jan 25 1990 15:086
    I've fired up my networked VAX 9000's to whittle this thing
    down to the Sweet 16.  As soon as my high-priority job finishes I'll
    post the lucky few.  
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.254Had fish for lunchSALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Jan 25 1990 15:282
       My breath is baited!
                                    Denny
110.255I could cut the tension in here with a knife!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueThu Jan 25 1990 15:372
    
    
110.256THE SWEET SIXTEENRHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 14:4322
    (in alphabetical order ...)
    
    
	Contestant	Note #
	----------	------
	CAPPEL		.247
	FINIZIO		.90
	GAULKE		.217
	HUNT		.2
	JD		.192
	METZGER		.251
	MrT		.174
	REEVE		.4
	RIEU		.12
	ROBICHAUD	.9
	ROSS		.239
	SCHNEIDER	.94
	SZABO		.80
	VENU		.54
	VLASAK		.231
	WAY		.8
    	
110.257I thought this note was write-locked? :-) SASE::SZABOFri Jan 26 1990 14:464
    What were there, friggin' 17 contestants?  I'm sittin' on pins 'n
    needles.......  :-)
    
    Hawk
110.258Craven to the endSAGE::ROSSPander BearFri Jan 26 1990 14:501
I hope I don't pull a Bobby Knight vs Cleveland State!
110.259Heh heh heh!!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 14:572
    
    
110.260All right, who changed the system time?VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good Bye!Fri Jan 26 1990 15:010
110.261 RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOGo Tar heels..Fri Jan 26 1990 15:101
    
110.263STAR::YANKOWSKASGO 49ERS!Fri Jan 26 1990 15:259
    re .262:
    
    >	Hey ACC Crisp.  I'd like to see a breakout on my score, which happens
    >	to be the lowest of the lot.
    
    MrT that's not your score, it's merely the reply number of your entry.
    
    
    Paul 
110.264Relax T, ya bozo.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 15:456
    Correct Paul.  I could post the scores (after the fact of course) if
    y'all want.  No hard feeling though!  This is all highly subjective
    event, unlike Dean's unparalleled career statistics.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.265THE ELITE EIGHTRHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 15:4618
(listed alphabetically ...)

		JD  (.192)

		METZGER (.251)

		MrT    (.174)

		ROBICHAUD (.9)

		ROSS	 (.239)

		SCHNEIDER (.94)

		VLASAK	 (.231)

		WAY      (.8)
    
110.266How many of the eight are t-shirt qualifiers?SAGE::ROSSPander BearFri Jan 26 1990 15:521
Whew... Made it past Cleveland State... now can we get by Richmond?
110.267And then there were 2!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 15:569
    MrT and JD are the only remaining T-shirt contestants!
    
    It's mano-a-mano.  T v JD.  You two care for a quick one-on-one match
    to decide the winner, or do you wanna stick with yer respective
    entries?!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.268SAGE::ROSSPander BearFri Jan 26 1990 15:593
I hope this done soon because I would guess that many people will
be heading out the door before 5:00.

110.270SAGE::ROSSPander BearFri Jan 26 1990 16:087
>    Cliff I'll brain you if you keep up with the Cleveland State 
>    jive-bull. 

	What scares me, Thomas, is that if I get by Richmond, I may
have to face a great team like Seton Hall.  My slow, WMD, 3 guard, freshman,
no-talent lineup surely can't beat a semi-pro, international-flavored,
team of all-NYC'ers, can we?   Maybe... 
110.271RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOGo Tar heels..Fri Jan 26 1990 16:126
    Chris, ain't no me vs T. bull jive.  It's the elite 8.  But see
    where you skewed geographical has messed up this fine contest?
    It's like me and T are in the NIT, and the others are in the NCAA's.
    Taint fair....
    
    JD
110.272Cause I'm OBJECTIVE, that's why T. :^|RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 16:139
    Rest easy Rossee.  The winner (singular) will be crowned by 5, EST.
    The T-shirt will be awarded sooner than that, however.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    BTW - Ross seems pretty confident he's gonna take this thing.  Does
          he *know* who he's up against here????
    
110.273RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOGo Tar heels..Fri Jan 26 1990 16:2017
    Wait a second Chriss.  You changing the rooles allofasudden????
    
    I thought that anyone could win, but if beyond your geographically
    boundaries, they'd get the shirt, then the #2, if in the geographical
    boundary, would win the passes.  This is a sham.  What you've done
    is divide the contest into 2 contests, when all along it was ONE
    contest with TWO prizes.  What gives?
    
    ALl should be eligible to be the best entry (and in FACK(TM) you
    said that in your note about what was at stake - in FACK(TM) you
    said bragging rights wwere the most important prize).  What yyou
    are doing is chucking me and T from the tickets and bragging rights,
    and relegating us to 2nd citizen status and chucking us a shirt.
    
    I vehemetly protest this disregard for  you own rules!
    
    JD
110.274SAGE::ROSSPander BearFri Jan 26 1990 16:2315
>    BTW - Ross seems pretty confident he's gonna take this thing.  Does
>          he *know* who he's up against here????

I'm not that confident.. I've checked the other finalists and I'm running
scared.

/don, Dan, and Frank Way look like Final Four material to me.      

/don is like UCLA of the Wooden days...  
Dan  is like Georgetown of the Ewing days...
Way  is like Providence of the Marvin Barnes/Ernie D days

Me?  I'm just trying to get by like old Dean Smith at that school in
Chapel Hill. It will take a great deal of luck and coaching to pull this
one off.
110.275NO RULES WERE CHANGED. :^|RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 16:247
    All are eligible JD.  I was just doin' a little high-brow foreshadowing
    is all.  (Maybe I *was* wrong about you after all.  Unless this is yet
    another clever ploy of yours, pretendin' you don't know about such
    literary things.  Too late now anyways ...)
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.276THE FINAL FOUR.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 16:2623
(listed alphabetically ...)




		METZGER (.251)

		ROBICHAUD (.9)

		ROSS	 (.239)

		SCHNEIDER (.94)


Congratulations Carolina fans!  Just making the Final 4 is an accomplishment.
From here in, it's like picking straws.  All entries were Worthy of 
victory.

Again, nice work.


- ACC Chris
    
110.277muchos :-)'sSAGE::ROSSPander BearFri Jan 26 1990 16:274
>The winner (singular) will be crowned by 5, EST.
>The T-shirt will be awarded sooner than that, however.
    
Guess JD and MrT pulled an Indiana fade.
110.278*** T-Shirt Winner Announcement ***RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 16:3525
Since all Final 4 entries are eligible for the tickets, the T-shirt
winner will now be declared.

Here are the results:


NOTER	     NOTE  HUMOR  ORIG  SINC  +UNC  EMO  +JR  +DEAN  BONUS  TOTAL
-----	     ----  -----  ----  ----  ----  ---  ---  -----  -----  -----
JD	      .192   8     8     3     9     8    2     2      0      40

MrT           .174   8    10     9     1     9    0     0      0      37


Congrats JD.  Fine entry.  If not for MrT having exposed you for what
you were you woulda won the whole enchilada.  Thanks T.

Please send me via e-mail ASAP your address so I can expedite shipment
of "The Shirt".  And I hope you'll cherish it and perhaps even pass it
on someday to another member of the SPORTS community.

Regards and congrats,


- ACC Chris
    
110.279I cain hear my little girl cryin' now. :-( SASE::SZABOFri Jan 26 1990 16:564
    JMD, I sure hope you do with that shirt what T would've done had he
    wone the darned thang......  :-)
    
    Hawk
110.280RAVEN1::B_ADAMSI begin my new life Feb.11th 1990Fri Jan 26 1990 16:595
    
    It's 4:00 p.m.....Almost time!!! If I were you Chris, I'd let them
    sweat it out till "after" five.
    
    B.A.
110.282where's my belt? zzzzzzip.SAGE::ROSSKirby,Hoover,Eureka,IUFri Jan 26 1990 17:041
Oh.  Hey.   Who turned on the lights?
110.283Leaden Prose? The entries needed *integrity*.HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonFri Jan 26 1990 17:051
    
110.284Sure is "stinky" in here, eh T?SASE::SZABOFri Jan 26 1990 17:091
    
110.285Is this great or what???RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 17:1137
Finishing in fourth position in this years Celtics Giveaway Contest (leaving 
open the possibility of another!):

NOTER	     NOTE  HUMOR  ORIG  SINC  +UNC  EMO  +JR  +DEAN  BONUS  TOTAL
-----	     ----  -----  ----  ----  ----  ---  ---  -----  -----  -----
ROBICHAUD     .9     8     8     8     8     7    0     2      0      41

Fine effort /Don.  Loved your note and we hope to see again real soon!

(insert face of thoroughly dejected /Don who thought he just might
 when this thing)

Let's here it for Mr. Robichaud!!!

(insert sound of SPORTS fans giving polite applause as Don walks slowly
 away)


In *third* place:

NOTER	     NOTE  HUMOR  ORIG  SINC  +UNC  EMO  +JR  +DEAN  BONUS  TOTAL
-----	     ----  -----  ----  ----  ----  ---  ---  -----  -----  -----
METZGER       .251   8     9     8     8     7    0     2      0      42

Excellent late entry Metz!  Really touched me cause (unlike them high-brow
types) I love Gilligan's Island!  Congratulations!

(insert face of Metz somewhat excited and surprised he made it this far)

Folks, let's here it for Mr. Metzger!!

(insert sound of SPORTS fans giving enthusiastic applause as Metz
 walks quickly away)


And then there were two.
    
110.286And that's saying somethingSAGE::ROSSKirby,Hoover,Eureka,IUFri Jan 26 1990 17:227
It's Georgetown vs UNC...

Where's Freddy Brown?  Give him the ball!

It's a shame that two guys who share such common views on the
world of sports must be pitted against each other.  Geez, Dan, I hope
you win more than I hope James Worthy is NBA MVP...
110.287fix ..fix...fix...HEURIS::METZGEREx-NOTYFri Jan 26 1990 17:2414
    
    thanks...
    
    NOt bad for whipping it up on the spur of the moment...
    
    What do I win ?
    
    If Dan wins this context is fixed...He should get 0 for originality...0
    for jr reid and 0 for humor......
    
    Hell I coulda written an average boring dan note if I wouldda tried...
    
    Metz
    
110.288Boring shmoring. AJL=Another jealous loser.HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonFri Jan 26 1990 17:296
    >Hell I coulda written an average boring dan note if I wouldda tried...
    
    No way, Metz.  It took 20 years of honesty, sincerity and integrity to
    write that note.
    
    Dan
110.289I think it's only fitting I declare the winner in .300.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 17:306
    Now now.  No sour grapes Metz, or our Game Show Police will have to
    escort you not-so-politely off the set!  ;^)
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.290Promises made to be brokenSAGE::ROSSKirby,Hoover,Eureka,IUFri Jan 26 1990 17:311
Plenty of behind-the-scenes convention activity going on....
110.291Trying hard to get to 300SAGE::ROSSKirby,Hoover,Eureka,IUFri Jan 26 1990 17:324
>                <<< Note 110.287 by HEURIS::METZGER "Ex-NOTY" >>>
>    NOt bad for whipping it up on the spur of the moment...

	I think that sums up MrT's opinion of this fine contest.
110.292:27 minutes and counting.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 17:335
    re: .-1  Tradition *MUST* be maintained!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.293COOKIE::MJOHNSTONO Ye of little face!Fri Jan 26 1990 17:345
	What are those disgusting slurping and smacking sounds I hear every
time I try to peruse this topic?

Conspiring Mimes Want To Know
Mike JN
110.294I'm slipping..... help...SAGE::ROSSKirby,Hoover,Eureka,IUFri Jan 26 1990 17:341
James Worthy couldn't carry Greg Kite's jock...
110.295Hmmm. An extra ticket....HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonFri Jan 26 1990 17:364
    Hey /Don, Metz, I don't know who'll I'll take.  It would help me decide
    if I heard your views on Joe Namath and James Worthy respectively.
    
    Dan
110.296SAGE::ROSSGo Dean! Please go!Fri Jan 26 1990 17:381
MrT, you busy the 7th of Feb?  
110.297SASE::SZABOFri Jan 26 1990 17:383
    Dan, I's just kiddin'.  You cain sponge beers off_a me anytime!  :-)
    
    Hawk
110.298fix...fix...fix..fix... no prize for 3rd place ?? Is this the Ncaa tourney ?HEURIS::METZGEREx-NOTYFri Jan 26 1990 17:4310
Namath was overrated but I loved reading books about him in my youth...

I was 5 years old when the Jests won the big one...

Worthy is the Wade Boggs of basketball......

 Does this mean you'll take me now ?

       Metz
110.299What a long, strange trip it's beenSAGE::ROSSGo Dean! Please go!Fri Jan 26 1990 17:451
Well?
110.301I'm steamin'!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 17:475
    Shame on you for stealing .300 Hawk.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.302Enter it and say SET NOTE/NOTE_ID=110.300.VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good Bye!Fri Jan 26 1990 17:480
110.303The Winner.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 17:5052
First, I'd like to thank everyone for participating.  Hope everyone enjoyed
themselves as much as I did, and perhaps we can do it again next year.
(Let's see, Scott Williams is gonna be a lottery pick ...)

Secondly, I'd like to thank Nazz for making this all possible.  Without his 
poor basketball judgement we wouldn't be where we are right now.  (;^) Nazz!)

Lastly I'd like to thank MrT for exposing JD and allowing the *true*
winner to claim his rightful prize.  I've said it before but I'll say
it again:  "Thank you, MrT."  (And I hope they *do* drag the kicking and
screaming Bob Knight into the HoF.  He deserves it, darnit!  Heh heh!)

And now for the moment we've been waiting for.  

(insert sound of ACC Chris taking a *deep* breath)

The first runnerup in the First Annual ACC Chris Ticket Giveaway Contest
is (and BTW, this person will attend the game in the event the First Place
winner is unable to attend, for whatever reason):




NOTER	     NOTE  HUMOR  ORIG  SINC  +UNC  EMO  +JR  +DEAN  BONUS  TOTAL
-----	     ----  -----  ----  ----  ----  ---  ---  -----  -----  -----
ROSS	      .239   8     8     8     8     8    2     2      1      45

Congrats Doug.

(insert gasps followed by emmense crowd noise and applause)

And the winner:

NOTER	     NOTE  HUMOR  ORIG  SINC  +UNC  EMO  +JR  +DEAN  BONUS  TOTAL
-----	     ----  -----  ----  ----  ----  ---  ---  -----  -----  -----
SCHNEIDER     .94    5     5     9     9     8    2     4      4      46



CONGRATULATIONS DAN!!!

ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111


THANK YOU ALL FOR PARTICIPATING!!  SEE YA AGAIN NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!

ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111



- ACC CHRIS!!!!!!
    
110.304Integrity wins, for me *and* DeanHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonFri Jan 26 1990 17:546
    Gosh, Golly, Gee.  (I hope that photographer doesn't sell those
    pictures to Playgirl.)
    
    And a most deserving winner it is.
    
    Dan
110.305sniff.. sniff.. I smell a rat!SAGE::ROSSGo Dean! Please go!Fri Jan 26 1990 17:561
I'm so ashamed.  
110.306disgusting......HEURIS::METZGEREx-NOTYFri Jan 26 1990 17:5817
I've seen the light MR t.

ACC Cyst ain't nothing but a low down lieing cheating Dean worshiper....

I won't even go into what I'm sure dan promised him for a pair of measly celtics
tickets...I wonder what he got the "Bonus" points for.....

Wo is me for ever stooping as lowly as to enter a contest as clearly fixed
as this....First the geographical bias..then the seperation of the contest
into 2 contesxs(tm)and now the obvious behind closed door pandering of 
schneider to "win" the tickets....

Call me a converted Big 10 Bigot.....


         Metz
110.308Laughing all the way to the Garden 2.7SAGE::ROSSGo Dean! Please go!Fri Jan 26 1990 18:045
I guess I'll just have to learn to deal with the pain, MrT.   Somehow.
 


heh heh hee hee...
110.309It was fair. And equitable.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 18:095
    My hunch is Doug feels just fine about The Contest T.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.311FOUL, A FIX!!!RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOFlimFlamMan,A.Freed,ACCYSTFri Jan 26 1990 19:2123
What a sham.  What a travesty.  What a fix.  Typical from the ACC, though,
considering they've brought us Clemson, Jim Valvano, and Mr. Underachiever,
the ugly bridesmaid himself, Dean Smif, the man who constantly dives for the 
bouquet at the wedding, but never does get axed to stand in the center
of the alter.  That's reserved for the beauties, both inward and outward,
like Bobby Knight.

And look who wins, Dan.  His note had NO humour, NO originality - it
was a trip down Dan's memory lane, paved with back patting and "I's" and
"Me's".  Very UNTEAM player like, not Dean Smif like, more like Jerry
Tarkanian.  And yet the rube, ACCyst, gives it to the most undeserving
note entered.  I really caint believe it.

As MrT has said, however, I did receive some solance.  I acted in my best
ACC manner.  I lied.  I tried to bribe /Don, Hawk, and Denny, and yet
if MrT hadn't stood on his morals to expose me, I would've won.  And
since it was an ACC note directed at Dean, I can revel in that feel
of an excellent loss.

I eagerly await my T-shirt.   I have plans.

JD
110.312It was fair. It was honest. Dean would be pleased.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jan 26 1990 22:2512
    Thanks for at least being a man about this and fessing up JD.  As to
    Dan winning, I had no choice.  While his entry lacked originality and
    humor (look at the results, they're posted.  This is no coverup sham
    operation) he *did* come through in other areas.  In sum, he came out
    the victor.  Barely.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    BTW - I'm still waiting for your address so I can mail the shirt
          *pronto*.  The thing stinkin' up my office!
    
110.313JUPITR::PARTEECharlie -- Lemieux est le mieuxSat Jan 27 1990 11:0211
    
    
    I want to see a_analcess of those bonus points that Dan
    shnookered.
    
    Fraud!  
    
    
    Charlie
    
    P.S.  how could Bob Hunt's .2 make the sweet sixteen?  
110.314JUPITR::PARTEECharlie -- Lemieux est le mieuxSat Jan 27 1990 11:0413
>VAXWRK::NEEDLE "Money talks. Mine says "Good Bye!"    0 lines  26-JAN-1990 14:48
>                -< Enter it and say SET NOTE/NOTE_ID=110.300. >-
    
    
    I tried this.  Was gonna announce the winner myself a few replies
    early!  heh heh heh...
    
    But it's not supported in this conference.
    
    
    Charlie
    (Rosebud was his sled)
    
110.315Bonus Points were the key, no question.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueSat Jan 27 1990 13:4515
    110.101 holds the key for Dan's bonus points.  The rest of you coulda
    picked up on 'em.  Matter of fact, if Doug's "P" letter had been a
    different ballplayer than Phil Ford (who I obviously love deeply. 
    Coulda used him for "F") he would've won hands down.
    
    Hunt's Final 16 appearance highlights my incredible Objectivity in this
    affair.  Here's a guy who hates UNC with all his heart and soul.  Yet I
    still judged him fairly.  
    
    How can you guys even imply that the winner wasn't selected fairly,
    with the highest integrity.  
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.316Yeah, this conference was created with V1.x of Notes.VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good Bye!Sat Jan 27 1990 13:500
110.317Repent, Repent, Repent!CAM::WAYThe Saw is FamilyMon Jan 29 1990 09:4528
Wow...

Come back from vacation only to find yet another foul propagated by
the ACC support group.

The Path of Onan leads only to blindness, and now we have seen upon
whose eyes the scales now rest. This whole dispicable, septic
affair can only be the work of the true Antichrist himself, the
Rev' Smif'.  

Dragged down into the sordid depth of depravation, sucked lower and
lower into the sesspool of the Dean Dome, the true Gateway to Hell.

What demonspawn have issued forth, to corrupt and possess otherwise
normal people?  

Foul, I cry unto Thee, Foul!  

How far from the Pantheon, the True Light, can one stray and still
be considered human?

Fie on it!  Fie....

To be duped by a DAN-tesque parody of sane and rational thought....to
be duped by the most Onanesque Note of the Century...


Hang on JD, make some room on that Pantheonic Bandwagon for me!!!!!
110.318Fix, what fix?SAGE::ROSSShovel pass from the T-formation?Mon Jan 29 1990 10:587
	"Hey, Doug, you just lost the ACC Give-away contest.  What
	 are you going to do now?"


	"I'm going to the game anyway!"

HAHAHAHAHAHA (tm)
110.320What proof????RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueMon Jan 29 1990 13:562
    
    
110.321CAM::WAYThe Saw is FamilyMon Jan 29 1990 13:594
Now *this* is what I call a note!
    
    

110.322Three slices of toastHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERSome folks trust in reasonMon Jan 29 1990 14:086
>Hang on JD, make some room on that Pantheonic Bandwagon for me!!!!!
    
    What bandwagon is that?  The one for DEC's worst defensive backs? 
    Better save room for Dr. Midnight in that case.
    
    Dan
110.323Why, I oughta sue! (And I just might ...)RHETT::KNORRObjective Contest JudgeMon Jan 29 1990 14:288
    Just as I thought.  MrT makes a scant reference to "proof" and runs
    away without offering even the scent of real evidence.  My character is
    being assassinated here and I have no intention of standing idly by to
    watch it happen.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.324Deep ThroatSAGE::ROSSShovel pass from the T-formation?Mon Jan 29 1990 14:344
>         <<< Note 110.323 by RHETT::KNORR "Objective Contest Judge" >>>
>                -< Why, I oughta sue!  (And I just might ...) >-

Uh, Chris... I'd quit while I was [sic] ahead; y'know what I mean, Vern?
110.325CAM::WAYThe Saw is FamilyMon Jan 29 1990 14:5819
re Onan of SPORTS...

	No, I hardly think we're part of DEC's worst defensive backs.

	Course I'm sure even Elway could have completed a few if his
	receivers had 50 yard end zone to work in ;^)

	No, we're talking about the bandwagon of the Few, The Proud,
	the Followers of the Light.   Many are called, few are
	chosen, and those of us found worthy know that the needs
	of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one, and
	live for the greater glory of mankind.   We of the Light
	seldom use the word I, or extol our own virtues....

Oh, but Dan, if you get a chance, seek out Johnny Most and get his
autograph for me.....;^)

later,
'Saw
110.327SASE::SZABOMon Jan 29 1990 16:447
    T, you're wasting your time in this note.  Why don't you move up 5
    notes and spend a little time trying to convince us some more about how
    great the Bronks are and how "horseface" is a wimp........
    
    :-)
    
    Hawk
110.328Even Inside Edition's looking into this one!CAM::WAYThe Saw is FamilyMon Jan 29 1990 16:5811
No Hawk, T is right on on this one.  I can smell a fix...

Just call Mr T "Bob Woodward"....

This scandal will make Watergate look like child's play, and tarnish
the already seedy (thanks for the adjective T) name of
DeanDomeRevSmifUNCACCChris forever....

Fix, fix, fix!!!!


110.329Trash Journalism has reached new lows.RHETT::KNORRObjective Contest JudgeMon Jan 29 1990 16:5811
    Until I hear about the evidence my lawyer(s) have advised me not to
    comment.
    
    This is in no way an admission of guilt, but just another example of
    how today's liberal press operates.  The accusations make Page 1.  The
    rebuttals are buried in the Metro Section (if at all).  
    
    :^(
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.330RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOTarhells,Dean:==BroncosMon Jan 29 1990 17:0417
    Chris,
    
    Just look at the w(h)inning entry.  A fix is easy to spot.  Dan?
    His note is full of it.  So, he picked Air Jorday with the #1 pick
    in the Rotis. Hoop league - not exactly going out a limb, was it
    Chris?  After all, at the time of draft, there were 5 players worthy
    of being #1 pick - Air, Magic, Bird, Akeem and the Mailman.  And
    I believe those were the top 5 picks...
    
    He talks about defending Worthy - big deal - I've been defending
    Worthy just as long...he talks about Sam Perkins =- talk about
    reaching!  That was the funny part of dan's "Ode to Myself".
    
    Chris, face it.  You screwed up.  You chose the predetermined winner.
    A real contest, like MrT's, wouldn't do such a thang.
    
    Sarge
110.331Blackest of the BlackCAM::WAYThe Saw is FamilyMon Jan 29 1990 17:0712
1918 -- Black Sox Scandal

1929 -- Stock Market Crash

1939 -- Hitler Invades Poland

1972 -- Watergate

1989 -- Pete Rose Debacle

1990 -- ACC :== A Crooked Contest(tm)
110.333RHETT::KNORRObjective Contest JudgeTue Jan 30 1990 12:452
    
    
110.335MrT WapnerAUNTB::HAASDie, laugh I thought I'dTue Jan 30 1990 15:533
Will this be a good loss in court?

TTom
110.336Noriega will get to trial sooner than me. :^(RHETT::KNORRObjective Contest JudgeTue Jan 30 1990 15:5511
    Why wait til February 12th???  If you have anything substantial, post
    it now and let the trial begin.  It'll be a quick one, once the jury
    realizes how little you've got.
    
    I'm innocent of these charges and look forward to complete exoneration
    from the SPORTS community.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    
110.338Not yet buster.RHETT::KNORRObjective Contest JudgeTue Jan 30 1990 16:2711
    A trial requires a judge and jury, not just a prosecutor and defense
    attorney.
    
    Since it's obvious you're playing DA here to my Perry Mason we must
    have a mutually agreed upon judge and jury.
    
    Without these, I refuse to participate on the grounds I might get
    railroaded.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.339VIEW3D::MACGREGORTue Jan 30 1990 16:456
    If it is a judge and jury you are after, then I will participate
    as part of the jury.  I strongly believe that truth, justice and
    chocolate covered ice cream cones are what every American strives
    to achieve.
    
    The Wizard
110.340GUILTYSTRATA::CAPPELMcGovern,Mondale,Dukakis,SmifThu Feb 01 1990 04:591
    
110.341Let's have an ol' fashioned HangingSTRATA::CAPPELMcGovern,Mondale,Dukakis,SmifThu Feb 01 1990 07:201
    
110.342AXIS::ROBICHAUDMcComradeThu Feb 01 1990 08:535
    	I think MrT has a few witnesses.  Crisp, this sham is worse
    than the fixed game shows of the 50's.  Repent now and T might go
    easy on you.
    
    				/Don
110.343JUPITR::PARTEECharlie -- Lemieux est le mieuxThu Feb 01 1990 09:2610
    
    
    Yo T, it's nice having you around again; be careful with those
    time stamps this time, eh?
    
    :-) :-)
    
    Charlie
    
    
110.344Fix! Fix! Fix!CAM::WAYThe Saw is FamilyThu Feb 01 1990 10:2424
ACC (A Crooked Contest) Chris --

Repent now...come to your senses and 'fess up'.

Really, we're all pretty reasonable people, who believe in forgiving
transgressions....

Don't let Sportsgate suck us down into the maelstrom of graft,
corruption, and behind the scenes "fixing" that has plagued governments
in the past.

Don't let us see you, squirming in the lights, sweat on your upper
lip, brow furrowed with worry, proclaiming weakly "I am not a crook".

'Fess up now, and save yourself, and SPORTS, the necessity of a trial.

Vengence is mine, sayeth all those wronged in the sham of a contest...

(And don't tell me now I coulda won....my paltry entry had far more
originality than the recycled, retread spuge ejaculated forth by
The Onan of SPORTS..., but it never stood a chance in light of the 
predetermined outcome of this sham of a contest!)

Chainsaw
110.345FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Thu Feb 01 1990 10:344
    Chris is on a short vacation to Disney World and will be back next
    week, so y'all can either try him in absentia or wait for his return.
    
    John
110.346Lynch himSTRATA::CAPPELMcGovern,Mondale,Dukakis,SmifThu Feb 01 1990 10:480
110.347conflict of interestAUNTB::HAASDie, laugh I thought I'dThu Feb 01 1990 10:485
>    Since it's obvious you're playing DA here to my Perry Mason ...

What's that about he who defends hisself?

TTom
110.348CAM::WAYThe Saw is FamilyThu Feb 01 1990 10:5616
Now, now folks....

Let's not get that lynch mob mentality.  We want this to be above
board, and clean (i.e. the total opposite of ACC's contest)...

That when, when justice is served, sentence passed (if a verdict of
guilty is turned in), and all is said and done, then we can sit
back and be satisified that we accomplished it all in the American
way of truth, justice and liberty (i.e. the total opposite of ACC's
contest)....

And, just as all crooks go underground when the heat comes around,
has anyone noticed we've heard naught of Dan Dan Onan of SPORTS lately...

Remember, revenge is sweeter if it's kinder and gentler....;^)
Chainsaw
110.349I am .... an Innocent Man. An Innocent Man!RHETT::KNORRObjective Contest JudgeThu Feb 01 1990 10:5614
    Thank you "O"Hendry, but I'm not quite gone yet.  I will be heading out
    this afternoon though so you're correct that a trial could not possibly
    start until next week, at the earliest.
    
    The only thing I've observed so far is Sour Grapes.  All you Contest
    losers moaning cause ya didn't win.  No evidence.  No facts.  No
    Objectivity.
    
    Blah!  
    
    I'm innocent of all charges and look forward to defending myself.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.350Burn, burn, burn, burn....CAM::WAYVengence is mine, sayeth the SawThu Feb 01 1990 11:0121
ACC --

Just be thankful we aren't trying you the way they did it in 
Salem three hundred years ago....

	"Okay, puteth another stone on him"

	"Look, Goodman T, he yet survives"

	"Aye, that be the mark of a witch"

	"How so, Goodman T?"

	"If he dies, he is not a witch...if he survives, he is
	 surely the Devil's henchman..."

8^)
fw

PS  Enjoy Disneyworld...if you see Joe Montana, tell him all us noters
    said "Thanks!"
110.351Darrow, F.Lee Bailey, Dershowitz, MrTSAGE::ROSSLambda Sigma DeltaThu Feb 01 1990 11:074
>    Chris is on a short vacation to Disney World and will be back next

	Funny, those tickets were charged to a "D.Schneider"... 

110.352RHETT::KNORRBenedictArnold,DougRossThu Feb 01 1990 11:122
    
    
110.353Those French had the right ideaLEAF::NAZZARODean Smith is scared of UMassThu Feb 01 1990 11:243
    GUILLOTINE!!!  GUILLOTINE!!!!  GUILLOTINE!!!!!
    
    NAZZ
110.354Bailiff, whack his pee pee! WHACK!SASE::SZABOThu Feb 01 1990 11:271
    
110.355SAGE::ROSSLiquid handshakeThu Feb 01 1990 11:293
>         <<< Note 110.352 by RHETT::KNORR "BenedictArnold,DougRoss" >>>
    
Ouch.    Unfair!  
110.356And the Truth shall set me free ...RHETT::KNORRObjective Contest JudgeThu Feb 01 1990 11:3211
    Your one of my star witnesses Nazz.  Standby next week.  You will be
    called to the stand!
    
    As for you Benedict Ross, the "Ouch!" is much more painful on my side,
    believe me.  Can't believe it.  Just cain't believe it.  Be prepared
    for a *tough* cross-examiniation after T gets through with you.  As far
    as I'm concerned, you're the key to his case.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.357RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JODeanSmif - mediocrity personifiedThu Feb 01 1990 11:385
    I fer one know that shady dealings did go on.  It's a fack (tm).
    
    THis is worsted thanthe Black Sox scandel!
    
    Sarge
110.358 RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOMarcos,TheShah,Duvaler,KnorrThu Feb 01 1990 11:391
    
110.359Well, you got trouble my friends...CAM::WAYVengence is mine, sayeth the SawThu Feb 01 1990 11:5214
< Note 110.358 by RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO "Marcos,TheShah,Duvaler,Knorr" >

Or you could say:

		Leona Helmsly, Zsa Zsa, Robin "HUD"....



JD --

Because Dan is involved (i'm *sure*) we could compare it to the
"Teapot" Dome Scandal....
    

110.360AXIS::ROBICHAUDACC-AnotherCrookedContestThu Feb 01 1990 11:572
    
    
110.361 but correct me if I'm wrongCAM::WAYVengence is mine, sayeth the SawThu Feb 01 1990 12:0215
< Note 110.360 by AXIS::ROBICHAUD "ACC-AnotherCrookedContest" >
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

/Don, that's good, but you cain't (tm) it.  Somewhere in here, earlier
(like monday?) I entered a note that mentioned ACC as "A Crooked Contest".

At best, we'd have to share the glory....8^)

Chainsaw

PS  I'll (tm) SPORTSgate right now though (I think it's mine...)

    
    

110.362AXIS::ROBICHAUDACC-ACrookedChrisThu Feb 01 1990 12:172
    
    
110.364Castrate him (without anesthetic) !LUNER::BROOKSACC=ACrookedCystThu Feb 01 1990 14:061
    
110.365Voice of experience, eh Dock? :-)SASE::SZABOThu Feb 01 1990 14:361
    
110.366Sportsgate...CAM::WAYVengeance is mine, sayeth the SawThu Feb 01 1990 14:3929
SPORTSgate....

And so it's come down to this.  Graft, corruption, cabalism (i love
that word) all perpatrated right here in OURGNG...

Picture this:

	Years in the future, the camera pans the crowd at a UNC
	basketball game.  The team, being coached by Rev Smif' Jr.,
	is still essentially the team it's always been...talent laden,
	underachieving, preferring a good loss to a champeenship...

	Up in the upper seats (the Uecker seats) of the infamous
	Gateway to Hell DeanDome, sits a whizzened old man, in
	a_overcoat, hunkered down in his seat on the aisle, seats
	empty next to him....

	As the camera focuses on him, the color commentator mentions
	that it was *him*, the main figure in the SPORTSgate scandal.
	Just then, as a mother and her young child start to walk down
	the aisle by the man's seat, the mother pulls her child away.
	Even she can feel the stigma...


After years in prison, finally being granted parole by the most
liberal of bleeding heart liberals, ACrookedChris sits by himself,
watching his beloved Star Heels, a broken man....

And that's the way it is...
110.367There is a cancer in OURGNG::LDUC26340::ROBICHAUDACC-ACrookedChrisThu Feb 01 1990 15:251
    
110.369Philosophical QuestionsCAM::WAYVengeance is mine, sayeth the SawThu Feb 01 1990 15:4717
Gee Mr T....

I'd like to believe that about Snuffy and all, but I have one
question.  If Snuffy ain't Old Scratch in disguise, then how come
he never wins any champeenships with all that talent?  I mean,
if you were Old Scratch (Ahriman, Satan, Beelzebub, Lucifer) wouldn't
you want to squander your talent too?

And, seeing as I believe in the inate goodness of Man, wouldn't that
mean that ACC would have (at one point) been good?  If so, then
he would have turned bad, right?  And he did go to the Dean Dome....

Cain you enlighten me further?  What would the Pantheon say about
it?

An Enquiring mind...
'Saw
110.371Swaggart, Graham, GT Armstrong, MrTEARRTH::BROOKSACC=ACrookedCystThu Feb 01 1990 16:373
    > MrT(he Truth is Comming)
      
    I'm floorward !
110.372 RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOC.Darrow,O.W.Holmes,MrTThu Feb 01 1990 16:392
    
    
110.374How soon they forget ...SHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyThu Feb 01 1990 16:5250
110.375Linda Lovelace :== ?SAGE::ROSSLiquid handshakeThu Feb 01 1990 16:533
All I will say on the matter for now is:

	"Follow the tickets"
110.376 RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOBaseball,hotdogs,applepie,MrTThu Feb 01 1990 16:563
    
    
    
110.378 RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOwho is Mrt's Rusty??Thu Feb 01 1990 17:072
     
    
110.380So, you admit the prank, eh ???SHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyThu Feb 01 1990 17:3857
110.382You know the Tune....CAM::WAYVengeance is mine, sayeth the SawThu Feb 01 1990 18:2415
Oh, you better watch out, you'd better not cry,
You'd better not pout I'm tellin' you why,
Mr Truth is coming to town.

He's writing his briefs, and checking them twice,
Habeus corpus, gawd ain't it nice,
Mr Truth is coming to town.

He litigates for Ev'ryMan, with the backing of the Pantheon,
With Truth and Light and Justice, until the case is won.

Oh, you better watch out, you'd better not cry,
You'd better not pout I'm tellin' you why,
Mr Truth is coming to town.

110.383AXIS::ROBICHAUDJudgeSirica,ArchibaldCox,MrTFri Feb 02 1990 08:142
    
    
110.384Pistol-whip him !LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSFri Feb 02 1990 10:531
    
110.385LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSFri Feb 02 1990 10:5514
    > Plate-stacking candy a$$ ....
    
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!
    
       
    Bob, that was your best slam since you spoke at my defense rally
    at the Lincoln Memorial .... :-)
    ============================================
    
    By the way, I think my p-name sums it up.
    
    I would like to offer my services as judge for these proceedings.
    
    DrM
110.386RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOwho is Mrt's Rusty??Fri Feb 02 1990 11:384
    I have more to give on this subject.  Just received my 'prize'.
    Talk about false-advertising!
    
    JD
110.389CAM::WAYRevenge is a dish best served cold...Fri Feb 02 1990 12:0110
Perhaps Mr Knorr could employ the same counsel as Manuel Noreiga.

Or the lawyer who defended the rapist who hacked off that girls
forearms...  or the lawyer who defended Zsa Zsa, or Leona, or
Jim "I'm on Hallugeons" Bakker....

Heck, maybe even Mickey Mouse.....

Hallugeonically yours,
Chainsaw
110.390point of lawMCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Fri Feb 02 1990 12:2212
    
    Better go to another conference for your impartial jury (try ::Cooks
    or ::Crochet), because isn't it a prerequesite that the jurists
    have no prior knowledge of this case, such as would have been obtained
    by reading this conference?  Could anyone in in here be impartial
    enough?
    
    Suggestion:  Get the jury from ::Beer, as this would be the most
    likely place for a jury of one's pee-ers.
    
    -Dick
     
110.391Dean Smith=TantalusCGVAX2::REEVEFri Feb 02 1990 12:496
    After you uncover the fraud and expose the crime, the appropriate
    punishment would have to be making ACC Chris watch the videotape replay
    of last night's UNC-Ga. Tech game 12 times a day for fifty years, or
    until UNC wins the NCAA Tournament.
    
    Chris
110.392AXIS::ROBICHAUDWoodward,Bernstein,MrTFri Feb 02 1990 14:192
    
    
110.393SPORTSGATE update...CAM::WAYRevenge is a dish best served cold...Fri Feb 02 1990 14:2823
re The Jury --

Actually, I think ACC Chris will probably request a change of venue,
probably to the Naturalism conference, in the hopes that folks in there
are up front and have nothing to hide.

In addition, no prior knowledge isn't quite the right prerequisite.
Jury selection usually involves picking people who have no preconceived
notions about the case.  Everyone in CT knew about the Richard Crafts
"I think I'll kill my wife and put her through a" Woodchipper Case, but
there were some people who didnt' have any preconceived notions.

(In fact, I kinda had to hand it to the guy for his ingenuity...8^)
NO, I'm *JUST* kidding!!!!

Anyway, we should be able to find a jury in here...either here or in
WWF::WRESTLING ;^)

Let's get this trial rolling!  

Chainsaw

PS  I've made arrangements for the hearing to be covered on ESPNspan
110.395CAM::WAYRevenge is a dish best served cold...Fri Feb 02 1990 14:577
I move we start the trial ASAP after ACC Cyst comes back from WallyWorld.

I'd start sooner, but my rock solid belief in our system of Justice
won't let me suggest that....  (he's lucky we presume *innocence* until
proven guilty)...

Chainsaw
110.396a role change for T?AUNTB::HAASDie, laugh I thought I'dFri Feb 02 1990 14:5716
I'll give you a motion...

I think in the interest of fairness that the protending prosecutor, Mr T,
be removed on the basis that he is so clearly blinded by vendetta that
his true talents cannot be used effectively. How about 

	WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION!

You've seen the flick: MrT show up in court with that sultry look and
long legs and secretly confesses that he may or may not have been married
to Chris "I only wanted the tickets", he sobs. And then with baited
breath, we all hang on his words as the charges flow out.

I think it should be good enough to run the serial in USA Today.

TTom
110.397CAM::WAYRevenge is a dish best served cold...Fri Feb 02 1990 14:593
Jessica Rabbit, Kelly Bundy, MrT????!!!!

Never!
110.398AXIS::ROBICHAUDACC=ACookedCrispFri Feb 02 1990 15:034
    	MrT is the only one of us in SPORTS that's honest enough to
    do a fair and impartial job!  God bless you MrT!
    
    				/Don
110.399MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Fri Feb 02 1990 15:2013
    
    "From the producers who brought you the riveting courtroom dramas
    THE CASE OF BABY M and KRAMER VS KRAMER, now comes the TNT network
    premier of:
    
                 "SPORTSGATE:  POT VS KETTLE"
    
    ...Starring Willard Scott as ACC Cyst, and Mr. T as Mr. T."
    
    Miniseries begins 12 Feb, check your local listings for details.
    
    -Dick
    
110.400CAM::WAYRevenge is a dish best served cold...Fri Feb 02 1990 15:4420
When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one
People to remove themselves from the graft, corruption, and cabalism
that is propagated by one among them, it behooves the People to 
choose wisely the man who would prosecute the accused.

For what gaineth a man, if he should obtain Celtics tickets for
perverse favors obscured from the Light of the One (T)rue Way,
and yet lose the respect of his fellow noters?  Thus, I say unto
you, if your eye offendeth thee, then pluck it out.  If your
hand offendeth thee, then chop it off.  If your filberts offendeth
thee, then emasculate thyself.  If your head offendeth thee, then
cleave it in two, lest it causeth the loss of respect of your
fellow noters.

Therefore, we, the People of the OURGNG Sports Conference, in order
to form a more perfect Prosecution, do hereby and forthwith, select,
retain, and otherwise choose, Mr T to prosecute the case of the
People vs. ACC Chris.

So, it is written, so it shall be done...
110.401with a tablespoon......SASE::SZABOFri Feb 02 1990 15:533
    I say just let the bailiff whacketh his pee-pee a few times.......
    
    Hawk
110.403And in this corner, for ACC Chris, Phil-the shil..CAM::WAYRevenge is a dish best served cold...Fri Feb 02 1990 16:118
Yes, I did rollover a little (but I didn't wiggle too much ;^))

I think we should also nominate Phil Rizzuto, the Money Wh***, uh,
er, of the Money Store to be ACC's defense lawyer.  Considering
who "won" the tickets, that would be a fitting choice....


'Saw
110.404COOKIE::MJOHNSTONPutcher money whereyer mouse is!Fri Feb 02 1990 16:1521
	Since this trial will take place in a Colorado venue, due to the
location of Sports, I feel it incumbent upon me to step forward as a volunteer
for Jury Duty. (By the way, who's paying the mileage)

	I've been both shocked and saddened by the cries for blood which have
emanated from this topic. `Kill Him!', `Castrate him!', `Pistol Whip him!`,
`Guillotine Him!', `Hang Him!' `Whack his Pee Pee!'.

	Are we not men? (and a few women?)

	Is this not Bolivia?

	(Its not!!!!!!)

	Uh.... never miiiind.

	DAMMIT!! I say, ACC Crisp has a right to a fair trial!!
		THEN we'll hang him.

Fair is as fair does.
Mike `The Just' JN
110.405Continuance grantedHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeFri Feb 02 1990 16:2021
    "All Rise."
    
    "This courtroom is now in session."
    
    "We are here to discuss the matter of The Citizens of OURGNG::SPORTS
    vs. ACC Chris Knorr.  The charges brought to the court by Assistant
    District Attorney T against Mr. Knorr are Indecent Extrapolation, Wire
    Fraud and Cabalism.  I have here in my hands a deposition from Mr.
    Knorr with a plea of Not Guilty.
    
    "As this trial is ready to commence, ADA-T has found himself unprepared
    and asked for a continuance until Tuesday, February 6.  That
    continuance has been granted pending approcal of Mr. Knorr's
    representative.
    
    "Court adjourned."
    
    "All Rise."
    
    Judge Wapner
               
110.406Victory Hail, Victory Hail (you figure it out in german...CAM::WAYRevenge is a dish best served cold...Fri Feb 02 1990 16:2218
110.408In re Jury SelectionHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeFri Feb 02 1990 16:4917
    "ADA-T?"
    
    "Your suggestion that a suitable jury of peers be chosen from the
    football notes is noted and adopted.  Beginning on Monday, February 5,
    1990,  I will preside over jury selection.  Yet, in the interests of
    fairness, the defendant and his representative must also agree to the
    jurors.  I will give each side in this unseamly case 2 vetoes.
    
    "But, I caution you, Mr. Knorr's representative, I will not let jury
    selection be turned into a political process.  Any vetoes will be
    scrutinized solely on the basis of the issues of this case.
    
    "ADA-T, your suggestion is both fair and appreciated by this official."
    
    Judge Wapner
    

110.409CAM::WAYRevenge is a dish best served cold...Fri Feb 02 1990 16:538
Excuse me, your Honor...

I'd like to bring it to your attention that every court needs a bailiff.

Who shall we find to fill this important role?  We wouldn't want the
accused trying to make a break for it...

Chainsaw
110.410Let Soup pick his own lawyer, TSHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyFri Feb 02 1990 16:5934
110.411Wanted: Bailiff. Apply within.HUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeFri Feb 02 1990 17:0113
    "Quite right, Mr. Saw."
    
    "A suitable bailiff must be sought, one with appropriate qualifications. 
    Mr. Szabo seems to have some progressive ideas on proper bailiff
    techniques.  Is he able to perform this task?
    
    "As for the defendant attempting to escape, being that this is Mr.
    Knorr's first time before the bench, with ADA-T's approval I will
    advise that there is no need to place Mr. Knorr in shackles.  He will
    be released on his own recognizance."
    
    Judge Wapner
    
110.412Free Enterprise Dept.MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Fri Feb 02 1990 17:0614
    
    Need a juror?  Character witnesses?  Here's my card.
    
                           COURTS 'R' US           
    
                      Specializing in Testimony for
                         Plaintiff or Defendant
                                       
                     Courtroom experience since 1971.
                     
                 We're the best money can buy. 1-800-BUY_LIES
    
    -Dick
    
110.413What a wonderful world we live in, eh, T ???SHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyFri Feb 02 1990 17:1542
110.414My fee is only knowing that truth shall ruleSAGE::ROSSHabeus Corpus, Will TravelFri Feb 02 1990 17:1811
I'd like to represent ACC Chris.   I think he's being railroaded
here... by a mean-spirited,  short-fingered, vulgarian by the name 
of MrT(rump).

I would point out that the posting of electronic mail without the
permission of the sender is a violation of Digital Policies & Procedures.
I would also point out that any evidence which is simply presented as
a "copy of a mail message" could easily be forged.  Burden of proof
in such cases goes to the prosecutor.  

Is there a rule against a lawyer testifying against his client?
110.415breeeng on dee judgeMAMIE::WENTZELLThe things I like, I try twiceFri Feb 02 1990 17:2621
As a citizen of OURGNG::SPORTS, I feel it is my civic responsiblity to
put myself into the jury pool.  I am a staunch believer in truth, justice,
and the American way.  The national anthem brings a tear to my eye, even
when that boob who "sings" before the Bruins games renders his ear-
wrenching version ;-).  If a crime has been perpetrated, I believe in the
stiffest penalty the law has to offer (can we consider this a capital 
offense?).  If he is guilty, he will swing.   By the same token, the
American system of justice dicatates that no man shall be punished without
a fair trial in front of a jury of his peers.  This man shall not be convicted
on heresay, rumors, and gossip.

I did not enter this contest, and have never been connected with said defendant,
couldn't care less about a basketball team from North Carolina or its so-called
coach, and am only interested in seeing law and order maintained in our 
neighborhoods, therefore making it a safer place for our young children.


Faithfully submitted,

Scott P. Wentzell
An annoymous member of the community
110.416WHOA THERE...Gotta have an impartial judge!!!TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Fri Feb 02 1990 23:1734
    
    
     AS A NON-PARTICIPANT IN THE ALLEGED CONTEST,
     NOR AS AN INDIVIDUAL WITH A VESTED INTEREST
    IN ANY OF THE AFOREMENTIONED DISPUTES,
    PLUS HAVING AN EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND IN ...LAW
    
    AND 
    
    HAVING DISPLAYED OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS AN UNBIASED
    STANCE ON MANY POTENTIALLY CONTRAVERSIAL ISSUES,
    I SUBMIT MY NAME FOR CONSIDERATION
    
    
    
    AS
    
    		de  	JUDGE	!!!!!
    
    
    
    Since I am, nor have been known, by most members of JNA,
    I feel that that justice can best be served by having a
    mostly_RON individual determine the appropriatness of the
    content and comments of both parties be responsible for 
    what is admissable.
    
    If we are to emulate the time honored and venerable pratice
    of the  UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, judges must be elected!!!!!
    
    What say you?  Dost thou wish to have an election for Judge of the
    impending trial?
    
    
110.417something at riskAUNTB::HAASDie, laugh I thought I'dSat Feb 03 1990 11:0210
re: .402, MrT

If I'm speakin for Knorr, he's doomed. To put it on record, I think his
weakest point is the selection that he made, and in his own, let's say,
peculiar fashion by which he arrived at his decision. 

Instead, I say, let the preceedings begin. Put the filberts on the line,
yours against his, may the best man keep his.

TTom
110.418I will whack no pee-pee before it's time.......SASE::SZABOMon Feb 05 1990 11:007
    I'd be most honored to accept the role as bailiff for this event.  My
    pee-pee whacking silver tablespoon is polished and ready for use.
    
    I am proud to be a_'Merican in times like these.......
    
    
    Hawk, Bailiff Extraordinaire
110.421String him up!!SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Mon Feb 05 1990 11:182
       Anybody got any string?
                                 Denny
110.422And the cattle prod too!SASE::SZABOMon Feb 05 1990 11:223
    Denny, maybe Hoot will donate his filbert strap for a week or so.....
    
    Hawk
110.423"The Emperor" Ain't A_Wearin' AnythingSHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyMon Feb 05 1990 11:2950
110.424Thou Shalt Not Obfuscate!CAM::WAYRevenge is a dish best served cold...Mon Feb 05 1990 12:2518
Personally, I think that this trial is exackly(tm) what's called for
in this case.

We entered into this contest fully expecting it to be fair, square and
above board.  That's not what we received.  Instead, we were all duped
into a charade (the TRUE charade of 110 is the contest, not the trial)
and led astray....complete innocents brutally duped by a most heinous
crime of fraud.

True, there is always Caveat Emptor, but quite honestly, who, as a
member of the SPORTS family, would have expected the raw, unmitigated
brutal results....

Nay, I say, the charade here is the *contest*....any bantering or
debating outside of the trial is just obfuscation....

JMHO,
Chainsaw
110.425Yes to Ross J.D.; no to sequestering Hunt.HUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeMon Feb 05 1990 13:4420
    "All Rise.  The courtroom is now in session.  Judge Wapner presiding." 

    "With regard to the matter of Mr. Ross representing Mr. Knorr in the
    matter of SPORTS vs. Knorr, I have considered ADA-T's objection. 
    Pending Mr. Knorr's approval, I will allow Mr. Ross to conduct himself
    as defending attorney in this case, yet ADA-T will be able to examine
    Mr. Ross and Mr. Knorr himself, or perhaps a junior partner can perform
    the cross-examination. 

    "If Mr. Knorr can be persuaded to appear tomorrow, he can make his
    decision concerning his representation and the trial can commence
    immediately.

    "Alas, ADA-T, I have no control over the behavior of the public, of
    which Mr. Hunt is a part.  I suggest, perhaps, a visit from Bailiff
    Szabo is in order.  The fairness of the decisions of this appointed
    official will speak for itself, notwithstanding Mr. Hunt's open
    condemnation of the American system."

    Judge Wapner
110.426This Wapner guy sounds *mighty* familiar...AXIS::ROBICHAUDACC=ACookedCrispMon Feb 05 1990 13:481
    
110.428Just a pinch more levity in the recipe...CAM::WAYRevenge is a dish best served cold...Mon Feb 05 1990 14:1512
To add a little levity to these proceeding (and perhaps to get
more of a rise out of everyone)...

This reminds me of a Shoe cartoon I saw in the paper a while ago.
Shoe and one of his buddies are going to watch TV.  Shoe asks
his buddy what's on.  His buddy replies, "Oh, the People's Courtroom
sounds good tonight.  Sez here Judge Wapner gets testy and sends
a jaywalker to the chair!"


heh, heh, heh, heh...
Chainsaw
110.430I saw T noting with Donna Rice !!!SHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyMon Feb 05 1990 14:5273
110.431CAM::WAYWould not be prudent at this junctureMon Feb 05 1990 14:5717
110.432Another view of judgement and armageddon...CAM::WAYWould not be prudent at this junctureMon Feb 05 1990 14:594
"And then in the third age, the age of the McKittrick replicants,
the Destructor came in the form of a Giant Slor.  Many Shuvs and
Zuls were roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell
you...."
110.433what's the penality for perjury? ;^)CNTROL::CHILDSTailGunner T and his NakedidityMon Feb 05 1990 15:399
    
    No matter what happens this has turned out to be a great note. I just
    wish we could have the trial at the BULL....
    
    thanks Chris, T and Bob...
    
    hahhahaaaa
    
    mike
110.434The inmate is running the asylum!HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayMon Feb 05 1990 15:4228
    >No, what you doing is applying your peculiar brand of right-wing,
    >Reaganesque "media-justice".  That is, you make a condemning
    >charge loud and clear for all to hear and then you place the
    >so-called defendant at the mercy of the mob to decide if he's
    >guilty or not.  All without a single shred of evidence.   Wonder
    >if Gary Hart or Joe Biden would recognize what you're doing ???

    >Joe McCarthy would be proud of you, T.   "Tail-Gunner T", that's
    >our man.

You're quite right, Bob.  I was T's "victim" of these tactics many times
over.  It wasn't always easy to stand my ground in the face of the
blank pages he kept waving under the noter's noses, yet didn't hold
still long enough for anyone to read.  And now *he's* a prosecutor?!?

As star witness, I must say this "legal" system that T is imposing is a
real stomach churner.  He kept sending me mail messages offering 
favorable rotisserie trades for a condemnation of Chris, even if I 
had to fabricate one!  I wonder what the jury would think of that?
And has anyone made sure that T hasn't tried any similar 
chicanery with the jury?  After the way he Noriega-ed his own
contest, I wouldn't put anything past him.

In fact, we should've had a pre-trial to see if they've even got a
case against ACC Chris.  My guess is that they don't.  I know I won
that thing on the up and up.

Dan
110.435AXIS::ROBICHAUDMcCarTismMon Feb 05 1990 15:434
    	T, better cover up that plate stackin' butt!  This is a family
    conference.
    
    				/Don
110.436HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA(tm)CAM::WAYWould not be prudent at this junctureMon Feb 05 1990 15:5614
110.437MrT, Roy Cohn, Ambulance Chasers, Snakes_in_the_grassHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayMon Feb 05 1990 16:0411
>Oh there is evidence.  In fack, there is a veritable cornucopia of
>plethoras of evidence....

You've got nuttin'.  In fact, there's a multitude of reasons to think that
the contest judging was done with a superfluity of honesty.

>PS Dan, how was the (tainted) game?  Did you see Johnny Most?

This week.

Dan
110.439I charge .438 with conduct unbecoming an attorney...HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayMon Feb 05 1990 16:409
...Bailiff, do your worst to MrT's necked peepee!

Yes, MrT, you charged me with all sorts of wrong-doing, but it was
just a cloak of obfuscation to hide your own dirty work.

And now you tried to by me as a witness.  I hope the defending
attorney is listening...

Dan
110.440Potential Danger NullifiedCOOKIE::MJOHNSTONPutcher money whereyer mouse is!Mon Feb 05 1990 16:4726
110.441Somebody check T's palms for shaving creamSHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyMon Feb 05 1990 16:5732
110.442Bailiff Szabo, go help Mr. Johnston.HUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeMon Feb 05 1990 17:017
    "The Honorable Judge Wapner wants to know more about Roxette, the
    Canuck Minx and the tub of Mazola oil.  Otherwise, he is aghast!
    
    "The court wishes to thank Mr. Johnston for uncovering this fiendish
    plot and letting justice take it's course."
    
    Judge Wapner
110.444Is anyone taking this seriously?MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Mon Feb 05 1990 17:521
    
110.446T :== The "Geraldo" Of OURGNG::SPORTSSHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyMon Feb 05 1990 18:2533
    Dream on, T, dream on.
                                                 
    This is, by far and away, the absolute biggest "mountain" out of
    the all-time smallest "molehill" that you've ever made.  And,
    believe me, you've created some whopper mountains before.
    
    I will graciously admit to wasting some of my (and Digital's) very
    precious and valuable time trying to convince you that you're
    perverting the judicial system.
    
    It's become obvious to me that you have no intention of ever
    bending your own stubborn and hard-as-steel convictions that you
    and you alone are always right and that everyone else is wrong.
    
    It's become obvious to me that you have no intention of ever
    allowing anyone to chip away at that Berlin Wall in your haid that
    you call your "facks" and that everyone else calls your "opinion".
    
    It's become obvious to me that you have an incredibly elastic
    memory that compels you to remember past events and deeds in such
    wild and twisted convolutions in such a way that your amazingly
    one-sided recall of the past is the *only* one that matters.
    
    I concede, T, that this so-called "trial" of yours is the only way
    for you to waste enough of your own precious time trying to
    convince yourself of the beauty of your own masterpieces.
    
    Personally, I wish you'd get back to work.  The stock price is low
    enough as it is.
    
    And put some clothes on.
    
    Bob Hunt                                                       
110.448OBJECTION, your Honor!COOKIE::MJOHNSTONPutcher money whereyer mouse is!Mon Feb 05 1990 19:225
                The witness is browbeating the prosecutuion!!


Mike JN
110.449Yo, Connie ???SHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyTue Feb 06 1990 00:248
110.450FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Feb 06 1990 09:414
    By the time the "trial" finally occurs, the winner will have gone
    to the game and the issue will be moot to a certain extent.  
    
    John
110.451Ticket giveaway rules = '89 NOTY rules :^>WFOV11::MORRISONStarosc nie radoscTue Feb 06 1990 09:556
    
    Hell, ACC can give the tickets to whoever he wants. They were
    his originally anyway.
    
    Bull
    
110.452CAM::WAYTue Feb 06 1990 09:5841
I disagree.

Any time in this great land of ours, when innocent people are duped and
psychologically raped, it's never a moot point.  When some indecent crook
commits mail fraud, and bilks people out of their hard earned cash and
savings, the point doesn't become moot.  And the statute of limitations
is not just around the corner either.

What we have here is a clear case of intentional deceit.

People entered a contest for tickets.  Some of the people may or may
not have been Celtics fans, that really doesn't matter.  How often
does one get a chance to see a professional sporting event from the
press box?  I never have, and that's why the offer appealed to me.
In fack, the only thing I ever would have enjoyed more, would have
been a press pass to the end line where I could take photos.

But anyway, never expecting to win, even in an honest, fair and above
board contest, since I don't know much abou UNC or J.R Reid's big butt,
I still made a honest effort to at least make a few people laugh.

But, the whole time the thing was fixed.  Leaving my entry completely
out of it, there is no rational way that the spuge ejaculated by
Onan Dan could have beaten some of the finer entries.

On the bottom line, you have a situation where people entered into a 
contest (contract, really) in good faith.  The spirit of that faith
was broken by underhanded, behind the scenes deceit.


Yes (I think it was Dick who asked) some of us are taking this very
seriously.  Nexted thing you know, it could be something that hits
us closer to home.....


And all this ca-ca about the 32 point must system and T's qualifications
to prosecute, and lack of evidence (HAHAHAHAHAHA) are sheer obfuscation,
and should not be tolerated....

Most patriotically,
Chainsaw
110.453SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Tue Feb 06 1990 10:125
       After some very minor investigative work it was simple to figure
    out the true identity of our 'Judge Wapner'. I am now mulling over
    whether I should expose him here and now. I'm sure others have also
    learned or figgered out his identity. 
                              Denny
110.454JUPITR::PARTEECharlie -- Lemieux est le mieuxTue Feb 06 1990 14:578
    
    Cain't be T...
    
    Wapner incorrectly used "it's" instead of "its" a 
    few notes back.  T'd never do that.
    
    
    Charlie (attendee at the Apostrophe Policeperson's Ball)
110.455SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Tue Feb 06 1990 14:593
       If this 'judge' is allowed to oversee this 'trial' it will be
    an even bigger travesty than the contest itself!
                                         Denny
110.457CAM::WAYTue Feb 06 1990 15:1320
In the interim, if we cain't have that scudder ACC testify, maybe we
cain have Stevie Ray Vaughn do some testifyin'....

	"If the house is a-rockin', don't bother knockin'...."

Okay, that was cool...

Now maybe we can watch some of "Wayne's World"...

	Okay, okay UNECESSARY ZOOM!!!!!... The cool word for this
	year, according to Rick the Cool Seninor [who looks suprisingly
	like Bruce Willis ed.] is SPHINCTER....SPHINCTER....	


Okay, now back to your regularly scheduled trial...that is if the
defend-ANT will show up!!!!

I think someone should move for contempt!!!!!!

Chainsaw
110.458Let the jury selection begin.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 06 1990 15:2343
This "trial" is nothing more than a witch hunt.  I'm an innocent man about
to be sent down the river.  

And why?  Because a defeated and humiliated rival has had life breathed into 
him (ironically by myself) and is using my Honest and Fair Contest as a 
spring board to seek his revenge.

He's cleverly manipulated the masses into believing an injustice 
has been done, using "sour grapes" as a driving motivation.  Rather than 
accepting defeat like Men, these losers are jumping on the T-bandwagon of 
deceipt, corruption, lies, more lies, propaganda, and injustice.  This 
lynching gang won't be satisfied until I've been exiled from SPORTS.  "Let 
Truth be damned!" is their battle cry.

It's sad, but unfortunately history is chalk-full of these kinds of mob-rule 
events.  OURGNG::SPORTS will no doubt be another chapter that historians 
will look back on with sadness.

My chances of getting a fair trial in here are slim and none.  Manny Noriega's
chances look *good* compared to mine.  And yet I will persevere.  I will
defend myself with every ounce of fortitude I possess.  I've no doubt
what the verdict will be.  Heck, I'm surprised ya's haven't pulled the
switch already, while I was on R&R.  

It won't be pretty in here.  Like some of the rides at Disney World, I'd
like to suggest that some of you may not want to stick around.  All dirty
laundry will be aired, so those of weak heart may just want to hit
"KEYPAD ," when a dozen or so new revelations pop up in 110.

In sum, I'm proud of this Contest.  I'm proud of the winner (singular), Dan
Schneider.  I'm proud of the kind jesture he made to invite the 2nd place
finisher to attend the game with him.  He handled it like the true Carolina
fan he is.  Namely, with class.

Once again, I'm innocent and hope to prove as much during this trial.  And
if I'm unsuccessful and mob injustice rules, it's been nice knowin' 
ya.  My only goal is to handle this whole affair in a fashion that would
make Dean proud.

Regards,

- ACC Chris
    
110.459CAM::WAYTue Feb 06 1990 15:3715
SPORTSgate(tm):

	What did I tell you sports fans.  Two weeks ago I pleaded
	with ACC Chris to 'fess up.  No dice.

	Now, now we are denegrated to the level of watching him
	stand here, sweat beading up on his upper lip, brow furrown
	in frustration, as he proclaims "I am not a crook"...

	Who says that history does not repeat itself....



And that's the way it is...
Chainsaw
110.460It's my Constitutional right, as long as you deem me fit judge.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 06 1990 15:3810
    BTW - I'd like to thank Mr.Ross for offering to defend me (and
     	  of course you, Judge Wapner, for going along with this questionable
          development), but this is no time to put the Blue Team out there.
    
    	
    I'LL BE DEFENDING MYSELF.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.461Sad storySHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyTue Feb 06 1990 15:4670
    Okay, let's see now ...
    
    The man goes away on a family vacation for a week.  And what
    happens ???
    
    During this time, Tail Gunner T tries to decide who Soup's lawyer
    will be.   Never mind the fact that Soup has the right to choose
    his own counsel.
    
    Then Tail Gunner T engages us all in another highly amusing though
    disk space consuming novella filled with his usual "I cain't this
    and I cain't that" drivel peppered liberally with Tail Gunner T's
    own peculiar view of his slant on "history", not to mention T's
    constant empty claims that he's got the evidence.   Nothing like a
    prejudiced jury, is there, TGT ???
    
    The rest of you haven't even figured out what's going on here. 
    Tail Gunner T started this so-called trial of his *LAST* week. 
    All of this "notular flatulence" of his *IS* his opening
    and closing arguments.   He keeps waving his portfolio of
    "evidence" around so often and so convincingly that you all think
    he's got an open-and-shut case already.
    
    Hell, he's even been making motions and filing objections with
    this highly suspicious "Judge Wapner" already.  I mean, how
    convenient that this HUAXIA::WAPNER person should show up all of a
    sudden.  Anybody checked a DEC telephone directory lately ??? 
    There is no employee named WAPNER listed in the DEC phone book, 
    How about the VTX-based Employee Locater Facility (ELF) ??? 
    Sorry, no one named WAPNER in there, either.  Is this another of
    Tail Gunner's "innocent college pranks" ???
    
    All in Soup's absence !!!   Now I axe you, the fine noters, is
    this a fair trial ???    Or is this something out of the "Third
    Reich Law Review" ???   Is this another chapter out of the
    "Australian Marsupial Guide To Legal Proceedings" ???  Are we
    looking at the all-time example of the "Amtrak Proceedings" ???
    
    He wants to know where the "defendant" is ...
    
    But, I axe you folks, has it occurred to Tail Gunner T that,
    maybe, just maybe, the Soupster is at this very minute wading
    through all of Tail Gunner T's verbosity of the last few days just 
    so he can get current on this note ???
    
    Has it occurred to Tail Gunner T that Soup could be trying to
    round up some legal counsel for this farce ???
    
    I say to you, my bretheren, that none of these things have
    occurred to Tail Gunner T because these seemingly mundane
    trivialities stand in the way of Tail Gunner's already
    pre-determined guilty verdict that he has *ALREADY* presented
    before you.
    
    All together, now boys and girls ...
    
                   *** CHOO, CHOO, CHOO, CHOO ***
    
                     *** HOP, HOP, HOP, HOP ***
    
            *** DEUTSCHLAND, DEUTSCHLAND, UBER ALLES ***
    
    Round 'em up, Tail Gunner T.   That's right, railroad him right
    through your little kangaroo court and send him on his merry way
    to the little Dachau that you have planned for him.
    
    A sad thing to see justice so brazenly abused and to see you all
    so willfully duped ...
                                               
    Bob Hunt
110.462AXIS::ROBICHAUDTonyEason,LannyPoffo,BoyGeorge,'SawTue Feb 06 1990 15:514
    	Hey Bob, I just went to lunch with Wapner.  Nice guy.  Seems
    fair.  Didn't drink either.
    
    				/Don
110.463As long as we're obfuscating....CAM::WAYTue Feb 06 1990 15:5433
110.464CAM::WAYTue Feb 06 1990 15:5610
< Note 110.462 by AXIS::ROBICHAUD "TonyEason,LannyPoffo,BoyGeorge,'Saw" >
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh yeah????  OH YEAH?????!!!!!

Well, so's your old man....8^P

Try this:

	ZsaZsa,LeonaHelmsley,TammyFaye,/Don!!!!
110.466Advisory remarks to doubting ThomasesHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeTue Feb 06 1990 16:1021
    "All rise!  The courtroom is now in session.  The honorable Justice
    Wapner presiding."  ["Where's that pesky bailiff?  He's supposed to say
    that.  Probably still helping Mr. Johnston with the three bimbettes in
    the backroom...]
    
    "As the appointed official with jurisdiction over OURGNG::SPORTS, where
    the case of the Citizens of SPORTS, represented by ADA-T, against ACC
    Knorr in the matter of the allegedly crooked contest, I find myself
    deeply offended by the disparaging remarks made in the press cast in my
    direction.
    
    "In all my years in this circuit, I have endeavored to be fair to all
    parties within the constraints of the law.  If any prior verdicts on my
    part can be found which can be pointed to as seemingly slanted, let
    them be pointed out.  Otherwise, the court asks the press and public to
    cease and desist with the allegations of impropriety from this bench.
    
    "Now if someone can fish out Bailiff Szabo, perhaps we can commence
    with the trial."
    
    Judge Wapner
110.467RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 06 1990 16:1542
    > insane
    
    Judge, please ask ADA-T to provide even the barest shred of proof that
    I'm not fit to defend myself.  Indeed, my mind is even clearer than
    usual, having just returned from a relaxing vacation (made possible
    by my ignorance of the lynching being constructed in my absense).
    
    
    > once the damaging testimony ...
    
    Typical T-tactic, ADA-T.  I do believe that little ole document called
    the Constitution contains some text relating to the fact that I'm
    offered the opportunity for a Defense?!
    
    The issue of jury selection vs. vote is critical.  I have no objection
    to either, but if it's gonna be a jury I demand veto power.
    
    Finally, here's a list of defense witnesses I'll be calling, in
    addition to my cross-examination of the individuals mentioned by the
    prosection:
    
    Frank Way
    John Hendry
    Steve Nazzaro
    Tom Shaughnessy
    
    Also, I'll be wanting to bring up some serious counter-charges against my
    last witness.  Charges that should break this case *wide* open, Perry
    Mason style.
    
    Could you please, Judge, advise me of the best possible way to
    handle this, since I'm no ambulance-chasing lawyer, but just a
    humble software specialist trying to eak out a living for my wife and
    (cute) child?
    
    
    Thank you, Judge.
    
    - Chris
    	
    
    
110.468HEURIS::METZGERI will not Burp in classTue Feb 06 1990 16:3517
Judge WAPNER may I say something to the waiting throng?


As the slighted 3rd place (on an obviously winning entry) finisher I humbly ask 
that this trial commence and the verdict be returned by the voting populace of
OURGNG::SPORTS.

Thank you for leeting me speak my piece. I'll refrain from shouting out and
try to keep my comments regarding Dan Schnieder's Flatulence of a "winning" 
entry to myself.

Let the real WINNING (if this wasn't a crooked contest) entry be proven.

Let the trial begin....

Metz
110.469CAM::WAYTue Feb 06 1990 16:469
We hear you Metz...

Considering that my paltry entry was far below that of yours, JD's, and
even T's (throbbing and knobby was GREAT), I agree with you.

The originality displayed in all three cases was by far and away greater
than that which was ejaculated by Onan onto the scene....

Let the trial commence, let justice decide, let Freedom ring!
110.470And away we goHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeTue Feb 06 1990 16:5041
    "In re: the motions before this court."
    
    "ADA-T, it is not under the jurisdiction of this court to declare Mr.
    Knorr insane.  If you should choose to pursue this avenue and not let
    Mr. Knorr defend himself, it will delay these proceeding for weeks on
    end.  It is the court's advise that the ADA accept Mr. Knorr's self
    defense.
    
    "Mr. Knorr, while you have taken your defense upon yourself, the court
    must caution to you that it won't tolerate any disrespect of its rules
    and traditions.  In the court, as in the law, ignorance is no excuse."
    
    "With regard to our jurists, obviously no one who participated in the
    contest could be a jurist, nor the prosecution, nor the defense, nor
    any witnesses.  The court will propose that the following be selected
    among for the jury of this case.  They have been chosen based on their
    qualifications as expressed in this note.
    
    "Messrs. Johnston, Partee, Hamel, Childs, Farley, Wentzell, Haas, 
    Brooks.
    
    "Six of these men will come to the decision; the other two will be
    alternates.  In the even of a hung jury, the court's own decision will
    be final.  There will be no badgering of these fine men by either
    attorney, either in or out of the courtroom.
    
    "If either party would like a jurist to be removed let him speak now
    with both name and reason.
    
    "The jury is hereby instructed to listen carefully to these proceedings
    as a matter of grave repercussions is being decided.  The jury must
    also listen to my words of caution as the trial runs its course.  Not
    all material presented will necessarily be suitable for you to consider
    in rendering a decision.
    
    "Order in the court!  This courtroom is now in session!  Let jury
    selection begin."
    
    Judge Wapner
    
    
110.471AXIS::ROBICHAUDThe pen is mighTier than the swordTue Feb 06 1990 16:583
    	Childs is a witness judge.  Wake up!
    
    				/Don
110.472Who is Me?RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 06 1990 16:5912
    I have no objections to the mentioned jurists.  I would, however, like
    some clarification for *YOU*, your honor.  Namely, given the fact that
    Mr.Hunt has pointed out there is no Wapner in ELF or the DEC phone
    book, we can only presume that you go by another name.  I think my
    client (myself) has a right to know what that name is.
    
    Once you've been identified, your honor, ADA-T can commence with his 
    opening argument, and I'll follow with mine.
    
    - Chris
    
    
110.473Turning into a travestyDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceTue Feb 06 1990 17:103
	WRITE-LOCKED - Until the Identity of Wapner is revealed...

Jim M
110.474Have at it, menDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceTue Feb 06 1990 17:385
	OK, I received a satisfactory response.

	Let the lynch... oops I meant the trial, resume..

	Jim M
110.475Let's get it on.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 06 1990 17:5010
    Rather than hold this lynching, I mean trial up, any longer, I'm no
    longer requiring the identity of the judge to be a condition of
    beginning this thing.
    
    Judge Wapner, whoever you are, my prayer is you'll grant me a fair
    shake.
    
    Regards,
    
    - Chris
110.476CAM::WAYTue Feb 06 1990 17:5610
I wouldn't worry Chris.

After all, we're all pretty much men of honor in here, even if we
do sometime go to extremes.  

As long as Judge Wapner works for DEC, well, he'll know to:

		"Do the Right Thing"

Chainsaw
110.477The judge always does the right thingHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeTue Feb 06 1990 17:596
    {Bang!!  Bang!!  Bang!!!}
    
    "ADA-T pending your approval of the selection of jurists, you may
    begin with your opening arguments."
    
    Judge Wapner
110.479MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Tue Feb 06 1990 19:115
    
    You sure you want a juror who's already 'hung'?
    
    -Dick
    
110.480OPENING ARGUMENTS FOR THE DEFENSERHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 06 1990 19:1463
(insert the sight of ACC Chris approaching the jury looking *EXACTLY*
 like legendary basketball coach Dean Smith.  Dean has a tired look
 on his face, no doubt the result of hours of pouring over contest 
 entries, notes, personal interviews, and law books, as he chews nervously 
 on his nicotine gum)

"Gentlemen of the jury, before I make my opening remarks I'd like to
 clarify my appearance.  For, while technically ACC Chris is defending
 himself in this trial, I, Dean Smith, legend, will be speaking on his
 behalf.  Technically, we are one and the same.  But for the sake of
 clarity we'll henceforth be defined as 2 seperate individuals.

What we have before us is very simple.  My client was in possession of
2 basketball passes, which were won fairly and honestly.  We'll introduce
testimony to this effect.  In sum (and here Dean's gravel-voice rises in
pitch, almost to the point it was when he blasted Coach K last year for
yelling insults at Scott Williams):

THEY WERE ACC CHRIS' TICKETS AND HE COULD DO WHATEVER HE WANTED WITH 'EM. 

My client stated the rules clearly in the base note of the contest.  They
were simple.  They were fair.  And yes, they were subjective.  If I may
quote from 110.0: 

"Next, since I was the true winner, I figured the most logical thing to
do was to let someone attend who most closely resembles me, at least as
far as fandom is concerned."

Simple enough.  The goal of the whole darn thing was to find someone
who most closely emulated my client.  Plain and simple.  As the Contest's
only judge, the determination of who the lucky "clone" would be was 
his and his alone.

In subsequent notes and Contest addendums, the actual formula for determining
the winner was posted.  The BobHunt 64 Point Must System (tm) was stated
plainly, for all to see.  But to conclude that because there is a 
"formula" for determining the winner that this is a sterile "objective"
event is to not understand the spirit of the Contest.  This is not the sort
of formula you can program a computer to solve!  My client wanted a clone
of himself.  It was up to him to determine who that person was,
based on the available entries.  He did so in the fairest means he felt
possible, even opening himself up to ridicule by posting the formula results 
for the Final 4.  In retrospect, this is the only regret my client has.
That he was too objective.  Too fair.  Too honest.  

Objectively speaking we will prove that ACC Chris did everything humanly
possible to fairly judge this contest.  The fact that such anti-Carolina
notes as the entries by MrT and BobHunt made it so far in the Contest
proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.  Sit back gentlemen, and listen to the 
evidence.  Do not play Contest Judge, for that is not your appointed task.  
Instead, determine if the prosecution has sufficient evidence to *prove*
that the distribution process of said tickets (i.e. this Contest)
was in any way illegal.  If not, you have no choice but to declare a Not 
Guilty verdict.

Thank you.


(insert sound of hushed and duly impressed courtroom as Judge Wapner 
 bangs on his gavel, instructing the Prosecution to call its first witness)
    
110.481You could hear a pin dropHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeTue Feb 06 1990 19:4320
    [ A din is heard in the courtroom.  The sounds of flashbulbs flashing,
    of pens scribbling, of papers turning, of jurors murmuring...  The
    gavel flashes.]
    
    <Bang!>  <Bang!!>  <BANG!!!> 
    
    "Order in the courtroom.  Order in the courtroom!  (Where's that damned
    bailiff already?)
    
    [ The honorable Judge Wapner gazes around the courtroom, letting his
    eyes wander from the defense, to the prosecution, to Roxette, the
    Canadian minx, to the jury, back to Roxette, and finally to ADA-T
    looking resplendent in his double-breasted suit. ]
    
    "ADA-T, if you're ready, call your first witness."
    
    [ A hush subdues the audience as ADA-T strolls confidently toward the
    juror's box. ]
    
    Judge Wapner
110.482MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Tue Feb 06 1990 19:467
    
    Gawd, I can't wait for the TV miniseries of this one.  It's better
    than The People's Court, Divorce Court, and Benny Hill all rolled
    into one!
    
    -Dick
    
110.483Ask awayHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayTue Feb 06 1990 20:007
I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

And as the contest's deserving winner for the best entry, I'm grateful
for this opportunity to come to the stand and bear my soul.

Dan

110.485COOKIE::MJOHNSTONPutcher money whereyer mouse is!Tue Feb 06 1990 20:0227
Murmurs from the Jury:

	Dammit Babs, not now!

	What'd they say??

	SHHHH!

	I'm the Foreman.

	No me!

	Me!

	Me!

	SHHHH!

	Dammit.. ah.. ohhhhhh Babs

	The judge is LOOKING AT YOU!

	SHHHH!

	Who's Dean Smith?

	SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
110.486With Noble Respect to his opponent he saidCAM::WAYTue Feb 06 1990 20:214
My hat is truly off to ACC Chris...regardless of the outcome, the
Dean Smith Opening Gambit was move well played...

Chainsaw
110.487Cheered til it hurtSHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyWed Feb 07 1990 02:3029
    Ah, what a golden opportunity to dust off some of those old
    college hoops memories of yesteryear ...
    
    Whenever the hated Heels would make their annual invasion into
    Charlottesville, us Wahoo fans would always save some of our most
    strident urgings for the ol' Rev ...
    
    We were especially vociferous whenever the Deanster would lift
    that ample frame of his out of his seat and attempt to communicate
    with a player or referee while he was standing at courtside.
    
    So, with nostalgia firmly in mind and with Soup's impressive (but
    probably futile) opening gambit still ringing in our ears, please
    allow me one final "blast from the past" ...
    
    Ready ???
    
    9,000 strong at the tops of their lungs ...
    
    *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***   *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***   *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***
    *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***   *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***   *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***
    *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***   *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***   *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***
    *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***   *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***   *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***
    *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***   *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***   *** SIT DOWN, DEAN ***
    
    Thanks, boys, I feel so much better now.  Carry on with the rimjob, T.
    
    Bob Hunt
    
110.488GIVE US BARABAS!!!WFOV11::MORRISONStarosc nie radoscWed Feb 07 1990 10:481
    
110.489Clues to finding da judgeSALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Wed Feb 07 1990 11:176
       Look up the judges Node location on VTX.
       Who do we know who works there?
       
       BTW, if contest entrants are not eligible to be jurors, why should
    the judge be eligible if he was a contestant?
                                   Denny
110.490punishment? return used ticket stubs? SAGE::ROSSPerjury PurveyorWed Feb 07 1990 11:351
Hey, Dan, what time's the game tonight?
110.491CAM::WAYWed Feb 07 1990 11:5820
...asks another of the Tainted Few....


Anyway,

I want everyone to know, that since ACC Chris has listed me as a defense
witness (Gawd only knows why), I am compelled to testify.  (Atty Smif'
might do well to classify me as a hostile witness).

However, should my name be drawn over the nexted two days, it might take
a while for me to get in and answer any questions.  I have meetings all
day today, and a training course to present all day tomorrow.  I'll
try and get into the file before leaving each day to follow the progress
of the file.

Now that you all know, no one can make any claims that the Chainsaw
is skeered....

Thank you, your honor...
Chainsaw
110.494CUJO::JOHNSTONKill em all, let God sort em outWed Feb 07 1990 14:2526
    Murmurs from the Jury:
    
    	What'd he say?
    
    	I'll give you two Mike Greenwell's for one Mark Grace.
    
    	Ya want halfa my sandwich?
    
    	shh
    
    	What's Bailiff Szabo got all over his face?
    
    	Lipstick. And the Judge looks like he's got oil or something all 
    	over his robes!
    
    	SHH
    
    	Why's the Judge wearing that stupid wig?
    
    	I donno. Who's the Dorky lookin' Dude?
    
    	That's Dean Smith.
    
    	Who's Dean Smith
    
    	S H H H H H H H H H H !!!
110.497so long as I don't miss the game tonightSAGE::ROSSPerjury PurveyorWed Feb 07 1990 14:432
I swear to tell the troof, the whole troof, and nothing but the
troof.
110.498OBJECTION!!!!!!!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 07 1990 14:4610
    How can my opening arguments be disputed????  I *DEMAND* that ADA-T's
    note 110.493 be stricken from the books, and the jury be instructed to
    disregard it.
    
    Judge, you'd better get ahold of this prosecutor but quick.  He's got a
    reputation for this kinda thing.  Any more of this and I'll ask for a
    mistrial.
    
    
    - Dean
110.499My testimonyHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 07 1990 15:0222
    >How much?
    
    How much MrT(errorist)?  How much?  
    
    Why thanks for asking, I scored a 46 on the contest, and very proud I
    was of it.  I mean I knew that I wrote the best entry, but all that
    snivveling the other contestants were doing was going to hurt.  My
    entry was probably the only one loaded with integrity and honesty
    something that the contest judge, Dean Smith, the entire jury, THE
    ENTIRE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, the US Constitution, you name it,
    everyone should have been suitably impressed by the almost overwhelming
    doses ofg honesty and integrity.  I knew anyone favorably impressed by
    Dean Smith's glorious record as coach of UNC would feel likewise about
    my entry.
    
    How much?  46, that's how much.  And my righteous reward?  Look for me
    high above courtside tonight.  Glory, there is justice.
    
    Your honor?  Can I go now?  MrT looks like he's getting ready to throw
    a chair at me!
    
    Dan
110.502excuse me, did someone order a pizza?LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Wed Feb 07 1990 15:131
    
110.503SAGE::ROSSI went to a Garden party...Wed Feb 07 1990 15:1632
>    Mr. Ross, I understand that you had private contacts with Mr. Knorr
>    and others in the days leading up to the final day of the contest.

	MrT, you are a cunning linguist.  But you have not got me licked.

	I did send mail to Chris early in the week asking him 
	how the winner	would be notified on the fateful Friday because 
	I was under the impression that I had a good shot at it and because
	I am not always available on Fridays.  He was the only person 
	affiliated with the contest who I contacted prior to Friday.
    

>    Could you name those with whom you had private contact and relate
>    the content of these sordid communications?

	Chris Knorr and MrT and a friend of mine who is not affiliated
	with the contest.

	On the Friday in question, after the final four was posted, Chris
	asked me who I would take if I won.   I stated that I would take
	a friend of mine and if he couldn't go, then I might ask someone
	like Dan {out of pity}.   

	MrT was contacted because he continued to berate me for trying 
	my best to win the tickets, and when it was decided that I lost,
	I sent him a copy of a mail message that said that Dan had won but
	that I was going with him... .to show him that my groveling may not
	have won the tickets, but at least I was going to the game.

	I was never offered a deal.  I never dealt with Dan directly.
	I made the offer re: Dan as a second-rate choice.   I never knew
	I was going until the after the winner was declared.
110.505CUJO::JOHNSTONKill em all, let God sort em outWed Feb 07 1990 15:4131
    Murmurs from the Jury:
    
    	What'd they say?
    
    	WILL you pay attention!
    
    	That Smith guy looks like he's sleeping.
    
    	shh
    
    	Nah. He's just slouched down trying to see up Kelly Bundy's dress.
    
    	Yeah. For quite awhile there he was bent way over, pretending to
    	tie his shoelace. His face was so red I thought his whole head was
    	going to blow off.
    
    	SHH
    
    	How come they didn't swear in that Schneider guy?
    
    	That's Onan Dan. They probably figured he's just lie anyway.
    
    	Is that the one that bribed Crisp?
    
    	The Judge said that was hearsay.
    
    	Does that mean it's true?
    
    	Yep.
    
    	S H H H H H H H H H!!!!!!!!
110.507SAGE::ROSSI went to a Garden party...Wed Feb 07 1990 16:0244
>    Isn't it true that you were approached by Mr. Knorr with explicit
>    threatening verbiage muscling contest participants about it mattered 
>    whom they'd take *if* they won? 

	No.  Never.   As I said before, I mentioned Dan's name first.

> Isn't it true that Mr. Knorr was polling his clique, his cabal as it were, 
>to arrange the final standings to ensure that the cabal was well-served 
>with two not   one winners as was advertised.

	I have no proof of that.  Do you?  


>    	"I knew someting was fishy long before Friday... I thought I
>    	 had a good shot at the title and sent some mail to Knorr. 
>    	 He responded with a 'So who would you take if you won?' query...
>         I told him the truth which probably started the backroom dealing.
>         I was prodded with questions like 'Do you know /Don?' or 'Do
>    	 you have a kid who would be heartbroken if you didn't win?'
>    	 Shameless.  I'm lucky I got one ticket out of the deal."
    
	Unfortunately, I did not use the proper smileys and other
	assorted techniques to show the frame of mind I was in.
	Here's how the above text would look if emotion were added.	


   	"I knew someting was fishy long before Friday... :-) I thought I
    	 had a good shot at the title and sent some mail to Knorr. 
    	 He responded with a 'So who would you take if you won?' query...
          I told him the truth which probably started the backroom dealing. :-)
          I was prodded :-) with questions like 'Do you know /Don?' or 'Do
     	 you have a kid who would be heartbroken if you didn't win?'
     	 Shameless. :-) :-) :-)  
         I'm lucky I got one ticket out of the deal.  :-) :-)

	Read it again and see if the tone changes.


No deal was offered to me... if it had been, I would have accepted!!!

The best entries made the Final Four.  It came down to Bonus Points.
How Bonus Points were arrived at was up to Chris.

And that's the FAX, right MrT?  
110.508And with that, may I step down?HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 07 1990 17:0739
>    Mr. .... Schneider.  Isn't it true that you have a history of, ahhhh...
>    telling half-truths? 

Well how kind of you to point that out, MrT.  I have made it a habit of 
distinguishing your half-truths (facks or troof, you call it) from the real 
McCoy truth and letting the good citizens, my friends, of OURGNG::SPORTS
know it.  Yessirree, I can tell the half truth from the whole truth and I've
blown the lid on it many a time.

    >What did you give and how much of it did you give to this ACC Chris
    >character in exchange for "winning" first place?

I gave him exactly what was called for, an excellent contest entry.  No more,
no less.  There was absolutely, unquestionably, unequivocally, 100% fer
sure, NOTHING else that I gave Mr. Knorr in return for his winning
judgement.  NOTHING.

    >And a follow up question: Were you aware of any private contacts
    >being made in the days leading up to the contest's shabby denouement?

Not in the days leading up, no.  The day of the judgement, there was some
limited contact which had nothing to do with th outcome.

    >ISN'T IT A FACT THAT YOU YOURSELF WERE INVOLVED IN PRIVATE CONTACTS
    >WITH MR. KNORR AND OTHER PRIVATE PARTIES IN A CABALISTIC EFFOR TO
    >ARRANGE THE CONTEST'S RESULTS?

Nope, not at all.  No cabalistic effort, no results arranging, nothing like that
at all.  The only issue was who would I take with my extra press pass.

Yer honer, isn't that enough badgering from this {sneer} lawyer?  After
all he'd make a good circus ring-leader, but the law is a subject best dealt
with factual evidence by logical minds, not who can scream loadest
in the tabloid headlines.  If there was something at stake there, if there
really was an issue to be weeded out and decided, I don't think OURGNG::
SPORTS would have sent this, er, lightweight.  He makes Dan Quayle
look like an accomplished J.D.

Dan
110.509Order in the court! Pepperoni and 'shrooms.HUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeWed Feb 07 1990 17:1615
    "Mr. Strout!  Approach the bench with the pizza.  Thank you (munch,
    munch) that will be all.  See the bailiff on the way out for your fee.
    (munch, munch)."
    
    "Jurist Johnston!  Kindly return to your seat!  And take those kneepads
    off!"
    
    "ADA-T!  Mr. Knorr is correct.  Objection sustained.  You will be given
    an opportunity in your closing statement to answer Mr. Knorr's
    defense."
    
    "The jury is instructed to ignore the contents of 110.493.  Now sit up
    straight and look alert!"
    
    Judge Wapner
110.510CUJO::JOHNSTONKill em all, let God sort em outWed Feb 07 1990 17:2234
    Murmurs from the Jury:
    
    	DAMMIT!
    
    	SH!
    
    	What's the matter?
    
    	My leg went to sleep.
    
    	Shake it like this.
    
    	Stop Wiggling!!
    
    	SHH!
    
    	Well.... What do you think'll happen?
    
    	I think the Celtics can go all the way.
    
    	So does Dr M; he's been putting some heavy bets on them, but I 
    	meant with the trial.
    
    	Oh.... Well I think HE's guilty.
    
    	That's the Prosecuting Attorney, you dipstick!
    
    	SHHH!!! 
    
    	oh.
    
    	HEY!!! HOW `BOUT SOME MORE PIZZA OVER HERE?!?!!!!
    
    	S H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
110.511OBJECTTION. OBJECTION!!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 07 1990 17:268
    Thank you your honor.  I *MUST* log a complaint about the T-tactics
    (tm) being used by ADA-T.  He's clearly badgering the witnesses.  Let's
    stick to the facts (or lack thereof) here.
    
    Thank you judge.
    
    - Dean
    
110.512OBJECTION (again). One witness at a time!!!!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 07 1990 17:2913
    And one more thing judge.  Isn't it just a tad unusual to have TWO (2)
    witnesses on the stand at the same time???  I can find no such
    presedence in any of my legal books.
    
    Please Judge, let's try to gain control here.  If this trial weren't
    going so well for my client right now (no evidence, no nothing!
    Hah!!!!) I'd be requesting (and probably getting) a mistrial.
    
    Thank you for your consideration, Judge Wapner.
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.513RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 07 1990 17:308
    BTW yer honor  - When ADA-T is done with Doug & Dan, I'll be 
    		     exercising my right to cross-examine the witnesses.
    		     Except I'll do it the proper way.  ONE AT A TIME.
    
    Thank you again, yer Honor.
    
    
    - Dean
110.514SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Wed Feb 07 1990 17:362
       You and da judge seem pretty tight, eh Chris? Wonder why!
                                   Denny
110.515MOVE FOR A DISMISSALRHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 07 1990 17:5611
    Your honor, I've been thinking.  Given how poorly the prosecution has
    been presenting their case, and given the complete absence of any
    evidence, I'd like to move for a dismissal.
    
    Let's just end this thing here and now and save the taxpayers some
    money.  Plus I've got a big game against State to prepare for tonight.
    
    Thanks Judge.
    
    - Dean
    
110.516** REQUEST FROM A JUROR **TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Wed Feb 07 1990 17:5912
    
    HEY YOU!!!  Yer Honor!!!!
    
    (from a juror)
    
    "Could we have a 30 minute recess, please?  I gotta go tinkle real
    bad!  
    
    :*o
    
    
    
110.518"Objection." Dean said tiredly. :^(RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 07 1990 18:187
    Objection again yer honor.  Sheesh.  ADA-T is clearly badgering the
    witness.  He's already answered these questions ad nauseum.  Even the
    jury's getting bored.
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.519I still gotta tinkle......TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Wed Feb 07 1990 18:211
    
110.520Judge, tell him to quit badgering me!HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 07 1990 18:2515
    >So, Mr. Schneider, think you're a big man, eh?

No, just an honest one.  WHich is why I think the jury should know that
you tried to bribe me to fabricate evidence against Chris Knorr.

    >Please be kind enough to relate to the Jury what what was said in
    >your private communications with Mr. Knorr on the final day of the
    >contest.

Fine.   He asked me who I was taking to the game.  I said either a good
friend of mine, or Mark Lefebvre who asked me first, or someone else,
but I really hadn't decided.  He suggested I take the second place
finisher, Doug Ross.  I said okay.  And that's the way it was.

Dan
110.521MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Wed Feb 07 1990 18:2512
    
    Can't they get some decent cushions for the jury bench?  My 'roids
    are killing me.  
    
    And turn off that damn ceiling fan, it's spraying s$%* all over
    the place.
    
    And one more thing...uh, is that Bundy woman by any chance going
    to be sequestered with us this evening?
    
    -Dick
    
110.523OK, WHO F@RTED?????PFSVAX::JACOBMario's streak=43 gamesWed Feb 07 1990 18:327
    
    
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
110.524(sigh) Objection sustained.HUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeWed Feb 07 1990 18:3317
    "Jurist Hamel, that Madame Bundy will be sequestered in my chambers all
    evening for some intensive, err, depositions.
    
    "Jurist Farley, can't it wait?  I told you to take care of that before
    court was in session.  Now take your hand off that!  Leave that alone!
    
    "ADA-T, while I sympathize with your plight in trying to weed out
    corruption, your tacts, ah, are a little extraordinary.  From now on
    try to contain yourself to one witness at a time.  
    
    "Further I'm afraid that you're offering more testimony than you're
    getting from the witnesses.  The jury is instructed to only consider
    direct conclusions drawn from the witnesses' testimony."
    
    "Aren't there any friendlier witnesses you can call on for testimony?"
    
    Judge Wapner
110.525Turn out the lights, the party's over ...SHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyWed Feb 07 1990 18:4024
110.527SAGE::ROSSI went to a Garden party...Wed Feb 07 1990 18:4030
    
>    Mr. Ross, you've already admitted that you were approached by Mr.
>    Knorr axeing, "who [sic] would you take if you won?"  Now doesn't
>    that sound to you like an overture, a statement, from this ACCrook
>    that he would select the winner according to what guarantees he
>    could obtain for the second ticket?

	No.  I thought he was really interested.  Since he was giving
	away the tickets, wouldn't he like to know how they would be
	used?   
    
>    Didn't you take this as a tender from Mr. Knorr to cut a deal, to
>    strike an arrangement on who would win.  Moreover, didn't this leave
>    you with the clear impression that ACCrook didn't have a rat's ass
>    of an intention to honestly apply his own published scoring criteria.

	No.  I thought I had a good entry and it came in second.  Chris
	NEVER offered a deal.   The top entries made the cut.  The system
	was applied.  The bonus points counted.   I lost but I won.  

>    In fack, AREN'T YOU UP HERE PERJURING YOURSELF RIGHT NOW IN ORDER
>    THAT YOUR PRECIOUS BASKETBALL TICKETS BE KEPT OUT OF HARM'S WAY!!


	Gee, look at the time!  When's the train leave, Dan?  5:15, right?
	Uh, let me think about that one.   How about a recess, judge, until
	Monday?

	Hmmmm...

110.529This is sad. Vewy sad.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 07 1990 19:0413
>    You'll have to wait until Soup cross-examines him.   That is, if
>    Soup's dumb enough to want to do so since Ross has pretty much made
>    swiss cheese of your so-called charges.
    
    Righto on that score Ketch.  Somehow I was hoping Dean would get the
    glory of bringing all this choice meat.  Appears there'll be nothin'
    left but bones though!  
    
    Hah heh heh hahhhhhhhhH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.530Go fetch me some coffee!SAGE::ROSSMrT Workout: Chasing AmbulancesWed Feb 07 1990 19:056
After reading MrT's brilliant prosecution, I'm reminded of a character
from "L.A. Law"  -


Benny

110.531Where's the evidence??????RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 07 1990 19:0613
    Judge, again I must interupt and ask that if, in all fairness and
    reason, you don't feel this trial should be brought to a halt.
    
    How ADA-T ever made it past the Grand Jury to deem a trial even
    necessary is beyond me.  Must be an election year.
    
    
    - Dean
    
    
    (Ooops.  Sorry about that last irrelevant comment.  Please disregard it
     and humbly consider my request.  Thanks.)
    
110.532Good one Doug!!! I'm Rollward!!!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 07 1990 19:077
    re. 530
    
    hahhahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!  
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.534SAGE::ROSSMrT Workout: Chasing AmbulancesWed Feb 07 1990 19:102
Just remember, that I will be out of town until Monday, Benny.  I hope
you have this wrapped up by then.   
110.535MrT :== "OURGNG's 1990 Poster Boy"SHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyWed Feb 07 1990 19:2025
                       Interoffice Memorandum
    
    To: 	Benny Stolwicz
    
    From:	Arnold Becker
    
    Re:		Laundry, Fed Ex, and Donuts
    
    Benny,
    
    On your way in tomorrow, could you drop by the cleaners and remind
    them that I need my suits pressed and my shirts starched and hung
    on wooden hangers only, please ???
    
    Also, please stop by Federal Express and pick up Zsa Zsa's
    deposition.
    
    Finally, Ben, could you stop by Dunkin' Donuts and pick up a
    dozen for the partners' meeting ???
    
    Thanks,
    
    Arnie
    
    
110.536Recess grantedHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeWed Feb 07 1990 19:248
    "The court grants ADA-T a recess until tomorrow at noon.  Will the
    bailiff kindly escort Miss Bundy to my chambers?
    
    "Hands off that tush, Szabo!!!
    
    "Court adjourned."
    
    Judge Wapner
110.537OBJECTION OBJECTION OBJECTION OBJECTION!!!!!!!!!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 07 1990 19:2512
    MrT's comments to the jury are completely out of bounds!  Only in your
    closing arguments are ya allowed to address the jury!!!
    
    Please Judge, strike ADA-T's address and instruct the jury (again).  If
    it was me, judge, I'd give this slouch 1 more chance and then throw
    this whole thing right out.
    
    Sheesh.  Feel like I'm coaching against Cliff Ellis or somethin'.
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.538Whats the deal here????CSC32::MENDEZWed Feb 07 1990 19:3110
    Please understand that I am just an innocent bystander....But how come
    Ross was allowed to change his story.  Either he meant the smileys or
    he didn't.  Ross is one noter who does not seem to leave anything open
    to interpretation as to where he stands on any issue.  I would think
    that the jury would have to question the accuracy of Ross' testimony.
    My question is why would Ross want to Lie???????
    Inquiring citizens of OURGNG::LDUC want to know!!!!!
    
    Frank 9er Mendez
    
110.539And finally, I go to my chambersHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeWed Feb 07 1990 19:337
    "Objection sustained.  The jury will ignore ADA-T's closing arguments
    of the day.  That is highly irregular procedure, which will not be
    further tolerated by the court!
    
    "Tomorrow, we shall begin with the cross-examinations."
    
    Judge Wapner
110.541Happens all the timeDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Feb 07 1990 19:476
>    This is great, everything the prosecution presents is getting
>    stricken form the record, simply on the basis of court proceedings.
    
 	Just like real life, Steven :^)   

Jim M
110.542RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOProposals - the Devils workWed Feb 07 1990 19:5123
    Re:  Tomorrow. Remember the time difference, and I'm nearing the
    end of a proposal effort, so availability is sketchy.  I'll do my
    best to take the stand.  I won't run out of town like certain
    witnesses.
    
    Also, Mr. Judge, your honor.  How can you let witnesses and
    gallery folks badger ADA-T like you have Mssrs. Ross, Schneider
    and Hunt?  Totally disrespectful.  No one has been doing it to
    Mr. Smith, er Knorr.
    
    And another thing.  How can this Dean Smith be Knorr's attorney?
    Mr. Smith is NOT a DIGITAL employee, therefore, he should not be
    on the Net, therefore, Mr. Knorr is quilty of a crime more heinous
    than what he is alledged to have done to warrant this trial.
    
    I would think Mr. Smith would be an "UNAUTHORIZED" person on the
    net.  
    
    Just my 2 cents...
    
    J Sarge D.
    
    
110.543Stop the presses. Here's the headline story ...SHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyWed Feb 07 1990 20:0040
                Trial Concludes 2nd Day; Jury Asleep
    
    OURGNG (AP) - In an altogether bumbling performance, prosecuting
    attorney Tom Shaugnessey called two different witnesses to the
    stand at the same time neither of whom would or could confirm the
    prosecution's charges.
    
    The first witness, Dan Schneider, insisted many different times
    that he had not conspired with the defendant on the fixing of
    the contest.  Inexplicably, Shaugnessey called his second witness,
    Doug Ross, to the stand while Mr. Schneider was still sitting in
    the booth.  Schneider graciously allowed room for Mr. Ross but a
    light chuckle broke out throughout the courtroom.
    
    Mr. Ross proceeded to tell the somnolent jury that he had written
    an intentional "touch-in-cheek" message to the prosecutor alleging
    that the contest had been fixed.  Mr. Ross pointed out that the
    message was not intended for serious purposes by the liberal
    sprinkling of several "smiley" characters throughout the text.
    
    Mr. Shaugnessey vainly attempted to object to his own witnesses'
    testimony and also, somewhat ineptly, attempted to object to the
    defendant's opening remarks as well as tried to address the jury
    directly after Mr. Knorr voiced one of his own objections.
    
    Each of Mr. Shaugnessey's improper, but futile, futile attempts at
    gaining the upper hand were rejected by the judge.   Shaugnessey's
    last impropriety was an attempt to call Mr. John Devlin to the
    stand before the defense has had its chance to cross-examine both
    Messrs. Schneider and Ross.   Since there is no room for three
    persons in the witness booth, Mr. Shaugnessey will no doubt have
    to retract his final request.
    
    Also of note was a Marine Corps rifle squad preparing for a 21-gun
    salute as well as a bugle player warming up to play "Taps" and a
    rather obese female opera singer preparing for her final aria.  
    It appears as though Mr. Shaugnessey's case will soon be "gone
    with the wind" ...
    
    Bob Hunt
110.544Cabo Wabo....CAM::WAYWed Feb 07 1990 20:0816
Uh, begging your honor's pardon....

I'd like to point out to the court that the "Miss Bundy" who has been
sequestered in your chambers tonight is not really *the* Kelly Bundy,
but rather her stunt double "Babs".

If there is any question as to the integrity of my statement, please
contact Juror Johnston, and he will divulge to you, your honor, the
method whereby you can ascertain for yourself the validity of my statement.

Where is Miss Bundy this evening?

Home, getting "dinner" ready for me...


Chainsaw
110.545Our Town...CAM::WAYWed Feb 07 1990 20:1824
As the sun sets over OURGNG county, a tired and dejected Greek philosopher
wanders through the streets, lantern aloft, looking for an honest man....

Nearby, in the train station, where Onan Dan, and Doug "Perjurers 'R US" Ross
are ready to board the train to Bahston, a young mother walking down
the platform hastily pulls her two young children aside as they saunter
by.

In a seedy district downtown, in a back alley bar, ACC Chris, and his
cabal of crooked cronnies, drink heavily under a portrait of Lenin, Mao,
The Ayotollah Khomeini, and Hitler.

On the other side of town, in a quiet neighborhood where subtle good holds
back the rank and despicable rot of corruption from its borders, Mr T
sits down to a quiet evening meal, with his closest advisors and supporters.
Head bowed to deliver the blessing, he beseeches a truly Higher Authority
to give him strength in the remainder of the struggle.

On the outskirts of town, in a truly wild place where even the scumbag
corruptioners and cabal members fear to tread, the Chainsaw chops some
wood for the stove, puts the Wolf on guard outside, and heads in
for his own quiet meal with Kelly.

Another day has ended in OURGNG County.....
110.546kept me waiting sooo long ...TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Wed Feb 07 1990 20:409
   
    
    		anybody know how to dry out a keyboard?
    
    
    I'z sooo embarrassed!!
    
    
    :*<
110.547Great Stuff!RAVEN1::B_ADAMSI begin my new life Feb.11th 1990Wed Feb 07 1990 21:266
    last 100 or so...
    
    	You guys are tooo much!!!   You should write your own book!
    
    
    B.A.
110.548RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOProposals - the Devils workWed Feb 07 1990 22:507
    To the Judge,
    
    I demand my last note be addressed before I am called upon to
    be a witness.  You'll have plenty of time to take care of this business
    before I get into work tomorrow, due to the time delay.
    
    JD
110.549Reprinted from the OURGNG LDUC FREE PRESSRIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOProposals - the Devils workWed Feb 07 1990 23:0133
    WILD TRIAL RAISES QUESTIONS OF COURT IMPROPRIETY
    
    OURGNG::LDUC (AP,UPI,FWIW,SOS)
    
    A wild day ended in the Knorr vs. the Good People of OURGNG::SPORTS,
    with the prosecuting attorney being badgered by the defendent,
    witnesses, spectators, and a fallicious newspaper account.
    
    Questions abound about the trial's preceedings.  Pizza was delivered
    in the middle, the jury seemed to be having an orgy, one juror wet
    himself, the bailiff was no where to be seen, one of the witnesses
    skipped town, and the defense attorney is violating all security
    rules of the network.
    
    The court artists sketches were marred when one of ACC Chris' cohorts
    threw baby blue paint on them.
    
    Not since Ruben "Hurricane" Carter's fixed trial awakened the spirit
    of Bob Dylan, has a trial caused such an uproar.  It is up to the
    Honorable Judge Wapner to control this trial, and force the defense's
    cohorts to stop disrupting the preceedings, to stop trying to 
    influence the jurors, and to clarify the legitimacy of the defense
    council's rights to be on the net.
    
    If the defense keeps acting this way, this newspaper can only see
    a mistrial being declared for the prosecution, and the defense and
    its cohorts being charged with contempt of court.
    
    We, the members of the free press, those that guard the right to
    free speech, religion, and press, as guarenteed by the First Amendment
    of the Constitution of this great Nation, can only urge and pray
    that Judge Wapner gains control, and lets this trial be fair, and
    without the unruliness it has experienced.  Let freedom ring.  
110.550Mebbe I shuddent be tellen ya'll 'bout 'disTOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Thu Feb 08 1990 01:0026
    re: -1
    
    "...one juror wet himself...."
    
    
    
    
    			WRONGO BABE!!!!!
    
    
    
    
    
     Missed Moiself but got the Keyboard!!!!      ;^))
    
    
    Thanks to ADA-T for meeting with me, and helping out.  Thanks, Pal,
    You are the greatest!!!!!
    
    ps - are me and the lit'l lady still meeting you for drinks and
    dinner Friday night??????  'member, I got a tiny bladder.....
    
    Jurist Farley
    
    
    
110.551What I did on my trip to the GardenSAGE::ROSSMrT Workout: Chasing AmbulancesThu Feb 08 1990 04:21130
Game Summary.... Charlotte Hornets @ Boston Celtics   Feb 7, 1990

Celts win in a blowout 146-125.  McHale scores 31 in 24 minutes including
3 of 4 from 3 point range.  Charles Smith and Michael Smith {no relation}
show promise in extended action.  Charles had 9 assists and 5 steals and
played Muggsy Bogues very well.  Michael had 12 points, 3 boards, and
3 assists in 21 minutes.   Reggie Lewis had a quiet 26 and Joe Kleine
gave the Chief a night off with 30 minutes, 16 points and 9 boards.
For the hapless Hornets, Tripucka had 24 and probably gave up 44.  Armon
"The Hammer" Gilliam had 26.  Bogues had 18 assists, 10 in the first 
quarter.     It was a fast-paced game.  Celts never trailed and led
43-34 at the end of one and 80-62 at the half.  It was over then.

And now for ....


The Rest of the Story


Dan and I caught the train in Acton at 5:15.   I knew I was in trouble 
when, as we left the station, Dan squealed, "The SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUULLLL
Train"... 

We got to North Station early and went into a sports bar for food.  The
dishes were named after famous sports stars.  I had the Larry Bird's
Chicken Sandwich.  Dan had the McHales Navy, evidently because the
Magic Meat was not available.   Again, Dan embarrassed me by asking 
if he could smell Larry's buns.

Dinner and brews taken care of, we went out to the Strawberries music
store to pass time til Steve Nazzaro showed up with the PRESS PASSES {ha!}.
Dan impressed me with his knowledge of Country Western music... offering
to sing "You Picked a Fine Time to Leave Me Lucille".  I declined and
pretended not to know him.

Then we waited outside of the music store for Steve and the PRESS PASSES {ha!}.
I asked Dan if he knew what Steve looked like.  He said he'd seen him
before and to "look for an Italian guy".   Gee, an Italian guy in the
North End of Boston.   No problem!

Steve arrived with a woman who claimed to be a Miami Heat fan.  Obviously,
Steve picked her up at a detox center somewhere on the way to the Garden.
We went outside, around back, up a secret stairway, thru a maze of
twisty passages all alike, said "PLUGH" and arrived at the press entrance
where we got our PRESS PASSES {ha!}.   Waved to Bob Neumeier.   Bob was
muttering "G$#$#damn Lobel gets $600K and I get diddly".  Went up umpteen
sets of stairs and then up a ladder formerly used on the U.S.S. Kennedy.
4 steps, straight up.  Then crawl thru a tunnel about 3 feet high and
two feet wide.  Dan says, "You know, this reminds me of a dream I had
last night."   We emerge from the tunnel and behold the Garden, from
"high above courtside".  I mean "HIGH ABOVE COURTSIDE".  I mean "SOMEONE
GET ME SOME TISSUE FOR MY NOSE PLEASE!" high.

Off to our left about twenty feet away is Glenn Ordway, Bob Wilson {voice
of the Bruins}, and JOHNNY MOST.  Dan yells, "Hey, Johnny, how's it
hanging?"  Johnny does not respond.    

Steve Nazzaro then points us to our "chairs".  Remember your Aunt Bertha's
coffee table set?  You know the chair that had one of the plastic things
off the leg so that you jiggled around whenever you moved?  That would
have been comfortable compared to the seats we had.  And the desk!  
Authentic plywood, built sometime in the Johnson admininstration - Andrew
Johnson, that is... covered with plexiglas. 

We applaud politely for most of the Hornets, saving special cheers for
J.R. Reid and his 'do.   

The game begins.  Dan yells at Bird throughout... calling him for
handchecking... even when he is sitting on the bench.  A spectacular
Bird pass is met with silence.  A Bird turnover launches Dan into a
series of spasmodic jerks, who knows what the result was.

Halftime arrives.  Dan and I go down and grab 2 dixie cups full of 
near-beer for the paltry sum of $5.50.  Johnny Most walks by and 
Dan says, "Watch this!".  Dan proceeds to pull a pack of Marlboros 
from his pocket and ties a string to one of them.   He then tosses
the cigarette into Johnny's path.   As Johnny bends over to grab the
cigarette, Dan pulls the string and whips the smoke back into his
hand.  "Schneider stole the butt!  Schneider stole the butt!  Schneider
stole the butt!" he screams into Johnny's good ear... then lights
it and blows a smoke ring in the shape of Ricky Mahorn into Johnny's
face.  "Now that's both McFilthy and McNasty" he chortles.

We return to our seats and discuss hoopology with the Heat fan.  Come
to find out, she is REALLY a Heat fan and knows more about hoop than
Dan and I put together.... except for the part about wanting to fondle
the bags under Pat Cummings eyes... and something about racing dots 
and pizza.  

The second half is all garbage time.   Dan runs around looking for any
available TV camera.  When he finds one with the red light on, he starts
jumping up and down and yelling into it, 

		"The NBA - It's DAN-tastic!"

We discuss the size of J.R. Reid's butt... compare and contrast it
with Mark Aguirre's.    And estimate whether it "stacks up" to MrT's.
The jury is out on that one.

The game ends.  We go down to courtside to meet up again with Steve.
Dan rushes out onto the parquet floor and fires up an imaginary 
three pointer, yells "Swish that, Larry!" and then does a Rodman
dance up the sideline.   Luckily, most of the real fans had left at 
that point.

Steve then gave us the final game stats and a complimentary press
guide {with Red Auerbach on the cover}.   He then leads us out thru
another series of passages and we pass by the media circus waiting
to hear Jimmy Rodgers explain again why he is going bald.  Everyone
is there.  John Dennis.  Dan Shaughnessy.  Bob Ryan.   Steve asks 
Dan if he wants to meet Bob Ryan.  Dan says "Oh, I don't think I
could even hold my bladder for that".  So we pass on Ryan.  Too bad.
I would have liked to have asked him why he was so special that he
had to talk to some joker throughout the entire National Anthem.
Obviously discussing his followup book to Larry Bird's autobiography,
"Drive"...   it's called "Fall Down - The Tony Eason Experience".

Another train ride home {another "SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUL TRAIN!"!}and
Dan and I part company.
-----

Thanks to Nazz for the great hospitality.   It was truly a memorable
evening.

Thanks to ACC Chris for providing the opportunity for simple people
like Dan and I to attend.

Thanks to Dan for showing me what life could be like.


110.552'twas a good night for the baby blues, eh?SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Feb 08 1990 10:573
       Not to mention Carolina...getting beat...on national TV...at
    home!!
                                             Denny
110.553Re.551, sounds like a hell of a nightPFSVAX::JACOBMario's streak=43 gamesThu Feb 08 1990 11:335
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
110.554Bovine Fecal MatterCAM::WAYThu Feb 08 1990 11:3519
First off, your honor, I think we have to question Mr Ross' aditional
testimony.

Anyone who has ever met Dan Schneider knows that within 5 to 10 minutes
of meeting Dan, Onan Dan has attempted to stick a NY JETS sticker on
something in his immediate proximity.

Since not once did Mr Ross make mention of this fact, and indeed since
all his story relating to Onan Dan could have easily been gleaned from
facks found in this and other notes files, I put to the court (as
an Interested Party) that Mr Ross additional testimony was pure
and unadulterated Bovine Fecal Matter.  

And, if Doug did not go to the game, *WHO* went with Onan Dan???

Your honor, I humbly submit that the court should rule on the
validity of Mr Ross' Additional Testimony!

Chainsaw
110.555Order! Order!HUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeThu Feb 08 1990 13:2116
    "All rise!  The courtroom is now in session.  The honorable Justice
    Wapner presiding."
    
    "This case has seen some highly unusual procedure.  This court is
    prepared to tolerate some instances of improper conduct, seeing the
    relative greenness of the two counsels, but it will not tolerate any
    more questioning by the witnesses!  From now on all questions must be
    addressed through either counsel.  In particular, Mr. Devlin will be
    sited with contempt for any more outbursts!  Bailiff, ready yourself."
    
    "This morning we shall be faced with the cross-examination of the
    witnesses, Schneider and Ross.  It is my understanding that Ross has
    slithered away, so he may be recalled for later testimony by Mr.
    Knorr."
    
    Judge Wapner
110.557COOKIE::MJOHNSTONPutcher money whereyer mouse is!Thu Feb 08 1990 13:4115
110.558Dean's a little cantankerous this morning.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 08 1990 13:4210
    Yer honor, I cain't believe this.  ADA-T's tryin' to bring up another
    witness before I've even had a chance to cross-examine!!  I believe a
    contempt citation is in order.
    
    If JD takes the stand prior to my cross-examination I'm taking my
    client back to the locker room.  Heck, I might even throw a chair or
    two across this courtroom.  
    
    
    - Dean
110.560MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Thu Feb 08 1990 14:0016
    
    Oops! Sorry I'm late.  Mornin', fellow jurists.  No no, jurist Farley,
    don't get up.  Just stay seated on the end in case you have to go
    again.  And see if you can stay away from the water cooler, OK?
    
    Boy, did I get a breifing from Ms. Bundy last night.  We looked
    at all kinds of case histories, like "Big 10 vs. Dirty Dozen" or
    something like that, and "Donk vs. Brown (1989)".
    
    Hey, where's my pillow?  Hey you, on the end!  Is that a joint you
    got there?  Pass it down, man.  What? Shut up? Who said that?
    
    Oh, sorry yer honor.
              
    -Dick
    
110.561More charges. More lack of evidence. Same old story. :^(RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 08 1990 14:0110
    Your honor are we going to listen to another tirade by ADA-T, where
    once again he makes outrageous accusations with zero evidence???  
    
    If I were you, judge, I'd want to see at least the barest thread of
    actual PROOF before going ahead with such an extraordinary request.
    
    Thanks judge.  After your favorable ruling, I'll proceed with my
    cross-examination of Mr. Ross and Mr. Schneider. 
    
    - Dean
110.562RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOProposals - the Devils workThu Feb 08 1990 14:048
    So, what the heck is I supposed to do?  I caint wait around all
    day.  Get the dang cross-examination done.
    
    ANd remember, I'm a registered legal counsel, so I may have to file
    charges if charges are filed against me!
    
    JD  (Like, youse guys never  did figure out what J.D. meant, did
    ya!!!)
110.563jelly doughnut?GENRAL::WADER.Clemens,M.Lemieux,K.Malone,J.ElwayThu Feb 08 1990 14:141
    
110.564Junkyard Dog?COOKIE::MJOHNSTONLife'sAfemaleDog!? WhatayaMean?Thu Feb 08 1990 14:220
110.566Present and ready.......TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Thu Feb 08 1990 14:259
    G'mornin fellow jurists!  Sorry 'bout my bladder problems
    yesteday.  It shouldn't happen again today 'cause I 
    got myself one of those manly-truck driver thingamajigs.
    
    Ya know what I mean?  It's got a hose, bottle, funnel,
    and some kind of string.  They say it's just the thing......
    
    
    
110.568Judge Wapner = Dan Schneider??? Hardly seems likely.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 08 1990 14:4215
    Again, I'd like a little proof here.  I tried to find out who the judge
    was myself.  The best I could do was identify his DECnet area, which
    cut the field down to 1024 nodes, with upwards of 50 users per node!
    
    If the honorable Judge Wapner is indeed Dan, it's news to me, and
    that's the troof.  In any case I think we all have a right to know if
    ADA-T has any *evidence* (a key word here, and one that the
    dishonorable prosecutor apparently knows little about) as to the
    judge's identity.
    
    Give us the PROOF, T.  Otherwise Wapner stays.
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.569The guy's never around when you need himDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 08 1990 14:455
	What I want to know is, where is "The Whacking Bailiff" when you
need him. This courtroom has gone TURBO::OUTTACONTROL.

Jim M

110.570COOKIE::MJOHNSTONLife'sAfemaleDog!? WhatayaMean?Thu Feb 08 1990 14:4818
    * * * *  S P O R T S   L D U C   P I C A Y U N E   T I M E S  * * * *
    _____________________________________________________________________


             !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
             E X T R A !!  E X T R A !!  E X T R A  !!  E X T R A
             !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	COLO.  The Courtroom was a shambles early this A.M. during the trial of
suspected SPORTS figure ACC Chris aka Crisp. Serious charges were leveled
implicating high level Judicial figures in a conspiracy of staggering
proportions. Links to the infamous SPORTSmafia (tm) were uncovered and armed
SPORTS police have moved into the courtroom to maintain order. Counter charges,
threats and whimpers of fear flew rampant, interspersed with shouts, laughter,
and some few moans of orgasmic delight. This reporter was physically mauled by
several Officers of the Court, and emerged with her clothing in disarray. More
as developments warrant. Byline...... Trixie LaReau...  Raving Reporter...
110.573LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Thu Feb 08 1990 15:486
>    a Moderator or some other person of known good reputation,
>    objectivity, and credibility...
  
    	In *THIS* conference????
    
    sean
110.574You call that proof??? Hah!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 08 1990 15:5218
    I think Wapner's done a credible job, regardless of his identify.  He's
    been fair and objective.  If anything he's let you run out of control
    far more than would be tolerated by a true judge.
    
    I say let Wapner stay.  You still haven't proven to my satisfaction
    that he and Dan are one and the same.  How do you know that node is in
    the same building as Dan's?  You're no technoweenie ADA-T, so let me
    clue you in on the fact that just cause 2 nodes are in the same DECnet
    area doesn't mean they're in the same building.  And even if they are,
    it's circumstantial that Dan is, in fact, Wapner.  Perhaps there's a
    RON in there who decided to have some fun.  Perhaps a new employee just
    started working for DEC.  There are many possibilities.
    
    Again, there's no proof against him, and it's this country you're
    innocent until proven guilty.
    
    
    - Dean
110.575How bout Dinz?CRBOSS::DERRYHow Soon Is Now?Thu Feb 08 1990 16:002
    There's only one person, in this file, with a decent rep.... and
    I don't want the job.
110.576Wapner's gotta go!AXIS::ROBICHAUDWitnessProtectionProgramThu Feb 08 1990 16:030
110.577NAC::G_WAUGAMANThu Feb 08 1990 16:287
    
    Did it really take ADA-T this long to figure this thing out?  Has he
    really been caught in this deceitful web, or is he just playing his
    cards one at a time?  The world awaits an answer.
    
    glenn

110.578Justice prevails!HUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeThu Feb 08 1990 16:2982
    "Order in the court!
    
    "ADA-T, enough of your flim-flammery!  Try to carry yourself with a
    degree of self-respect which befits an officer of the court.  As the
    appointed official under whose jurisdiction and domain these charges
    have been placed, it is my solemn duty to inform you that one more
    outburst such as that and you will be cited with contempt!
    
    "The courtroom is not a place to level spurious charges against the
    judge of all people.  We are here to find sufficient evidence to prove
    the serious charges you have leveled at Mr. Knorr.  Your poor attempts
    so far at this given task might lead any man to this latest act of
    desparation to conceal your frustration.
    
    "The identity of this officer of the court is found beneath each
    statement and within the scrolls of the law library (which you seem to
    be unfamiliar with).  Your weak attempts at determining such leaves the
    matter no closer to resolution than when you started.  Any technical
    familiarity with the subject would convince you of the utter lack of
    evidence you have presented.
    
    "Yet justice must be served.  We will continue on with the trial, and
    being a fair-minded justice, the court will attempt to put ADA-T's
    tirade in its  proper perspective: a desparate, inexperienced lawyer
    cloaking his inadequacies behind wild accusations.  Justice delayed is
    justice denied, and I won't stand for it."
    
    [The courtroom erupts.  Reporters rush toward the bench.  The judge has
    obviously been shaken by the attempted tainting of his service, but has
    emerged clearly as an officer of the first water.  The jury has leapt
    to their feet and are seen clapping animatedly, except for jurist
    Johnston, who has dropped a few coins on the floor in a shallow attempt
    to look up Roxette's brown leather mini-skirt.  She flushes. 
    Flashbulbs are popping at both judge and admonished counsel.  
    
    ADA-T hangs his head in deep shame.  He spins on his imitation leather
    Tom McCann's, crumples his notes into a ball and flings it toward a
    rather seedy looking chap in the front row of the packed house.  A
    photographer is ready and snaps the shot as ADA-T openly berates his
    paid informant for providing such shallow information.  The informant
    fires back that ADA-T was just believing what he wanted to believe. 
    ADA-T demands back the c-note it took to buy into this con game, but
    the sly fellow has dodged the bullet and was last seen exiting the
    court house ahead of the press as they rush to phone in this latest
    escapade.  Tomorrow's headlines won't be kind to ADA-T, but that has
    not been the judge's intention.
    
    The Honorable Judge Wapner is embarrassed by the attention, and feels
    true compassion for the prosecuter.  He tries to put the incident
    behind both of them in a gesture of true humanity, to a lawyer clearly
    at the end of his rope.  He seats himself, grips his gavel and
    commences:]
    
    <Bang!!>  <BANG!!!>
    
    "Order in the court!  Order!  We must have order!
    
    "We shall go on with this case.  ADA-T, you have a 20 minute recess to
    compose yourself, and forget the cunning hands into which you had
    fallen which led you to such distractions.  You have a community to
    represent, and a duty to perform.
    
    "The court has been informed that Mr. Schneider and Mr. Ross are both
    out of reach today, thus when court is back in session, you can
    continue with your witnesses.  When we return, bailiff, call John
    Devlin to the stand." 
    
    "A twenty minute recess is taken."
    
    [Again, the packed house erupts with spontaneous applause.  Rare are
    the times that such wisdom has been applied, such compassion observed,
    such a threat derailed with grace.
    
    Judge Wapner exits the courtroom and his stunned and ecstatic
    observers. He is heard muttering to himself about the comfortable
    private practice with the high six figure income he left behind in
    Connecticut to accept this appointment to the circuit those many years
    ago.  His loyal bailiff is touched and makes a motion towards Ms.
    Bundy that her services may be needed in the chambers again.  Her heart
    races at the opportunity.]
    
    Judge Wapner
110.579Call JD, but I've voiced my objection.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 08 1990 16:366
    I can't believe this judge.  ADA-T has behaved shamelessly.  This trail
    should be ended NOW.  I object *strenuously* to your liberal heart
    (hey, maybe this judge *is* Dan after all! ;^) ) and urge you to
    reconsider.
    
    - Dean
110.580CAM::WAYThu Feb 08 1990 16:3620
If you guys don't quit the all this bovine fecal matter,
I'm gonna get my saw, and take over the courtroom.  *THEN* we'll
see just how the Saw can get evidence outta any witness....

There will be no rights, no assurances that people will leave
the courtroom the same way they came in (ie with all four limbs
and genitalia intact...)

We'll take care of you the way we do on the frontier...

Get rid of the judge, unless the judge can deny that he's Onan Dan.
I'm convinced, simply from ACC Chris' statement that he's doing
a good job.  Cut him, and he'll bleed Jet green...

Finally, let's cut all the legalistic mumbo jumbo, and get the
evidence out here.  Produce the habeus corpus so that the guilty
can be convicted and swing.....


Chainsaw
110.581MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Thu Feb 08 1990 16:4412
    
    The judge is none other than the country's number 1 sports fan,
    
                                  MORGANNA
    
    "Order in the court!
    Order in the Court!
    Here come de juggs!
    Here come de juggs!"
    
    -Dick
    
110.583HEURIS::METZGERI will not Burp in classThu Feb 08 1990 17:0018
Ever notice how Judge Wapner enters a note and it is immediately followed by
a note from ACCyst ? I think dan created an account that Cyst has access to 
in order to perpetuate his Sham of a contest...

I'm saying that Judge Wapner is none other than ACCyst !!!!!

No wonder poor ADA-T can't get a fair shake is this sorry excuse for a court...

I (as the actual contest winner) demand a mistrial and demand a new trial
with a totally impartial Judge.....


Karen derry or Dinz should be the judge....


     Metz

110.584SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Feb 08 1990 17:012
    /Don won the contest!
                                  Denny
110.585I *still* am not convinced it's Dan, but let the jury decide.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 08 1990 17:0417
    In the first place, Wapner has NOT ruled in my clients favor 100% 
    of the time. If he had, this trial would be over and done with now and
    ACC Chris would be the free man he should be.  In the 2nd place, I
    congratulate you for actually bringing forth some REAL evidence.
    (First time for everything I suppose.)  But proving that Dan and Wapner 
    are one-and-the-same just because they're in the same building is still 
    a circumstantial leap.  Perhaps it's a correct one.  Perhaps not.  In 
    either case, I consent to your offer of letting the jury decide whether 
    to replace or keep him.  
    
    Finally, I'd like to state for the record that neither my client Knorr
    myself had any prior knowledge as to the identity of Judge Wapner. 
    Whoever you are judge, nice prank, but I just wish you would've been
    more kind to my case.
    
    
    - Dean
110.586LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Thu Feb 08 1990 17:084
	yawn, just another rerun of Night Court...  When does the playboy
    channel come on?
    
    sean
110.587COOKIE::MJOHNSTONLife'sAfemaleDog!? WhatayaMean?Thu Feb 08 1990 17:1218
110.588AXIS::ROBICHAUDWitnessProtectionProgramThu Feb 08 1990 17:166
    	When I saw the woprd *spurious* I kind of figured out who it
    was.  This trial is a sham and a mockery.  Chicago 7 revisited.
    The aggreived defendants deserve better.  Thank God for MrT, the
    only righteous noter in this whole festering sewer.
    
    				/Don
110.589MAMIE::WENTZELLThe things I like, I try twiceThu Feb 08 1990 17:334
ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz
                z
                 z
                  z ... wha?  huh?  Did somebody say jury???
110.590COMET::MONTGOMERYBible,Koran,Donk NewspaperThu Feb 08 1990 17:374
Jim Bob Dallas Denver Crews should be Judge... After all he looks like
Jonny Most!!!!!!


110.591A painful day in court for ADA-T.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 08 1990 17:4664
(insert sight of Dean Smith, legend, approaching the bench to counsel 
 with Judge Wapner.)

Dean:		"Judge, I'd like to file a formal protest against ADA-T
		for failing to notify defense counsel about a deposition
		that was taken from a Mr. Doug Ross.  Mr. Ross has already
		testified and I reserve my right to cross-examine, but
		evidence was presented which I had no prior knowledge of."

Judge Wapner:	"Noted and entered, Mr. Smith.  ADA-T, are you aware of the
		requirement that the defense be made aware of *all* 
		evidence so that they may prepare a proper defense??"

ADA-T:		(whimpishly) "Yes sir.  I, I, I, ... guess I forgot ...".

Judge Wapner:	"YOU FORGOT!?????!!!!"

ADA-T:		"Ye, ye, ye, yes sir.  Sorry."

Judge Wapner:	"ADA-T, IF THIS KIND OF THING HAPPENS AGAIN I'LL THROW
		 THIS CASE OUT SO FAST IT'LL BREAK THE SOUND BARRIER
		 AS IT WISKS ITS WAY OUT OF THIS COURTROOM!!!!!!!"

		"Now step forward and take your punishment."

(insert sight of ADA-T stepping out from behind his desk.  The courtroom
 issues a collective *GASP* as ADA-T lowers his trowsers, revealing a
 *huge* posterior - one that could stack *countless* plates.  The jury 
 looks more awake now than at any moment during the trial, except for the 
 one next to the water cooler with the damp pants who utters a 
 blood-curling scream and passes out cold!)

(insert sight of Judge Wapner reaching into his bench drawer, pulling out
 a large paddle with holes in it.)

(insert sight of a profusely sweating ADA-T, as he eyeballs the paddle
 and prepares for the worst)

(insert sound of Judge Wapner's paddle meeting the fatty flesh of ADA-T's
 Full Moon.  Groaning and wincing is heard throughout the court, everytime
 paddle meets butt.   Finally, mercifully, the paddling ends,
 ADA-T pulls up his trowsers, and returns to stand behind his desk.)

JUDGE WAPNER:	(looking more satisfied than if he'd just had a good sit-down
		 with the Sunday paper ...)

		"Now, ... let's get on with this thing."


		"ADA-T, call Mr. Devlin."

ADA-T:		"Yes sir.  I'll try to be more ... "

JUDGE WAPNER:	"JUST CALL YOUR WITNESS COUNSELOR!"

ADA-T:		(almost imperseptively) "okay"


Like I told you before this trial started folks, you may want to keep
the children and weak hearted outa 110 for awhile.


- Dean
    
110.592When Wapner's done with itGERTA::SIRICASolomon, Holmes, Warren, SiricaThu Feb 08 1990 17:483
    If this case needs to be appealed, my higher court is available.
    
    Judge Sirica
110.593more like divorce court...LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Thu Feb 08 1990 17:505
    re: .592    
    
    	WHADDAYAMEAN?  The People's Court moves to Superior Court???
    
    sean    
110.594Did my oysters take-out arrive yet?SASE::SZABOIWillWhackNoPee-PeeBeforeIt'sTime!Thu Feb 08 1990 18:036
    When you whackos are all through and the pee-pee whacking time has
    come, call me.  I'll be in da judge's chambers where Ms. Bundy's
    helping me polish my tool.  She's such a wholesome girl!  No wonder da
    judge's taken such a fancy to her, right Dan?
    
    Hawk, SPORTS' Official Balliff
110.595FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Thu Feb 08 1990 18:0710
    Yo, Hawk,
    
    You may be SPORTS' Official Bailiff, but I am the Apostrophe Police.
    Check out your Personal Name.  You are under arrest for committing
    an Apostrophe Violation.
    
    While you go to jail, I'll be spending time with Ms. Bundy in da
    judge's chambers, thank you very much.
    
    The A.P.
110.596JULIET::MAY_BRWimp football rules!Thu Feb 08 1990 18:096
    re -1
    
    Not necessarily.  He could be saying "..until it is time."
    
    
    Bruce, Auditor of the A.P.
110.597Where are those damn oysters?SASE::SZABOI'll whack no pee-pee before it's time!Thu Feb 08 1990 18:195
    Bruce is absolutely correct, thank you Bruce.  When would you like a
    turn with Ms. Bundy?  I have an opening between 14:50 and 14:55 OURGNG
    time (5 minutes should be plenty, eh?).
    
    Balliff Hawk
110.598...now it IS time.....NAZGUL::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Thu Feb 08 1990 18:2112
    
    Ahem.....
    
    Excuse me.....
    
    but, ummm,,,,,uhhh,,,,
    
    "no, I don't have to tinkle
    
    but I think I gotta do poops....
    
   
110.599MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Thu Feb 08 1990 18:317
    
    I could tell you had to go poops for the last half hour.
       
    Cripes! I ain't sittin' next to you tomorrow!
    
    -Dick
    
110.600next time I'll tell ya to hold yer breathNAZGUL::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Thu Feb 08 1990 18:359
    
    
    But I TRIED real hard not to let any gas escape.
    I guess one of the "silent but deadly" one's escaped.
    
    Sorry  :^)
    
    Oh yeah, aren't you greatful that the bottle didn't
    leak?  After all, it coulda made your shoes wet...
110.601OKAY, Who cut the cheese???PFSVAX::JACOBMario's streak=43 gamesThu Feb 08 1990 18:493
    
    
    
110.602I'm under control......NAZGUL::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Thu Feb 08 1990 19:047
    
    I cannot tell a lie,
    
    
    the guy next to me did
    
    ;^)
110.603Well, tell him to scrape out his underwearPFSVAX::JACOBMario's streak=43 gamesThu Feb 08 1990 19:132
    
    
110.604CAM::WAYThu Feb 08 1990 19:2243
If it please the Court.

I have just received a message from Someone who demands to be heard.
I am commanded to include His message into the Court Record...

So, respectfully submitted, here it is.....




From:	KEOPS::GOD           8-FEB-1990 16:09:29.13
To:	CAM::WAY
CC:	
Subj:	The Mockery of Justice....

Chainsaw!  Chainsaw!

Unto thee I give my true Commandment.  Prostrate thyself and prepare
to hear.....

I have seen the mockery of justice and good being carried out
in OURGNG County Court.  This SHAM must stop.

From this day onward be it known that unless *I* see a vast improvement
in the trial, *I* am seriously considering sending a plague of locusts
down onto OURGNG County.

You will tell the court of this Commandment.  You will tell Judge Wapner
that he'd better get his act together since *I* know his true identity,
and that someday he will stand before ME to be adjudicated.

You will tell Onan Dan that my Commandments preclude any room for the
hideous act for which he is nicknamed, and that if he continues to 
waste his seed I will strike his line barren.

You will tell the juror with the wet pants that *I* am NOT amused.

Chainsaw, go in peace to love and serve ME, and tell unto all you
encounter that Justice in OURGNG County will be swift indeed if this
SHAM is not fixed post haste.

I have spoken....

110.605God has an account in Bloomfield, CT?VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good Bye!Thu Feb 08 1990 19:360
110.606It's just the general smell around here...WOODRO::WENTZELLThe things I like, I try twiceThu Feb 08 1990 19:378
>    I cannot tell a lie,
    
>    the guy next to me did
    

I did not!!  


110.607No judge. No prosecutor. No witnesses. This is a trial???RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 08 1990 19:3715
    Where's JD anyways?  And where is ADA-T??  This trial is deteriorating
    at a rapid rate, I'll tell ya.  Personally, I don't blame you fine
    outstanding jury members for gettin' a little antsy.
    
    Sadly, the real loser in this whole affair is my client, ACC Chris,
    whose reputation remains tarnished (perhaps irrepairably) and whose
    freedom and very existence in this conference remains hanging in the 
    balance, all because of slanderous and wholly false charges brought 
    against him by the utterly comedic and inept Assistant DA, MrT.  
    
    Huff.
    
    - Dean
    
    
110.608Your Honor, Could I request a Gas Mask???PFSVAX::JACOBMario's streak=43 gamesThu Feb 08 1990 19:394
    
    
    
    
110.610CAM::WAYThu Feb 08 1990 19:4610
Re GOD....

God does *not* have an account in Bloomfield.  He used to appear
to Moses, Joseph and all those dudes in dreams.  But this is the 
90's.  God talks to me through node KEOPS....

And, as His memo said, God is not pleased....

I am but His humble servant,
Chainsaw
110.611no skid marks on MY shorts.....NAZGUL::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Thu Feb 08 1990 19:511
    
110.612who said they didn't have lumps?PNO::HEISEReschew obfuscationThu Feb 08 1990 19:593
>                      -< no skid marks on MY shorts..... >-
    
    no but your socks are full!
110.613I nominate John Hendry for judge.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 08 1990 20:0442
> No evidence need be turned over to you prior to its introduction in court.  

I'm not talking about turning it over ya dodo.  I'm talking about being
made aware of any evidence you're going to introduce.  Ross' "Exhibit A"
document is just such a case.  

And anways you're just burned up cause Judge Wapner had to spank ya (literally)
in front of everybody.  Well I was embarrassed too.  Try an be more careful
next time, will ya?


> You're a big boy - git your owned damned evidence.  

Oh I've got plenty, don't worry.  Trouble is this trial's so bogged down
I haven't even had a chance to ask a single question!  Fortunately for me
though with every inept question you ask a little more sliver of light begins
to creep in between my clients jail cell and freedom!


> And boy, not too bright of you to have failed to retain copies of
> those crooked mails you sent my witnesses negotiating the sale of
> first place.  

I've got copies, don't worry.  I was just doing a little test to see just
how corrupt a certain former-buddy of mine has gotten.  You've just answered
any doubts I had, thank you.  I would've expected better from a childs.

    
> you wouldn't be in such deep doo-doo, now would you?

On the fact that my client's in trouble, why state the obvious?  These
are serious charges here.  Charges we're not taking lightly.  My client
loves SPORTS.  He doesn't want to be exiled.  He wants to be around to
rub salt into wounds when I sign up Montross.  He wants to yell and scream
for joy so that all may hear of Carolina's unlikely ACC Title.  And he wants to 
strut, strut, strut, oh-so-proudly, when UNC springs upset-after-upset,
(despite having one of the slowest collection of athletes I've ever seen)
on their march to Denver.


- Coach Smith, attorney.
    
110.614I see the ambulance chaser's been up to his old tricksHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayThu Feb 08 1990 20:1222
    Well I don't believe my eyes!  I come rushing in from class to testify
    at my cross-examination, and I see that fool T is trying to pass off
    his salesmen savoir faire as technical know-how.  It's no wonder that
    revenue is down!
    
    MrT, let me clue you in, there are a few hundred people in this
    building and I don't know most of 'em, nor do you.  I do know that
    there are a few other people here who *have* noted in Sports, which
    dismisses right away the cheesecloth that you refer to as "evidence".
    
    AS far as I can tell, this Judge Wapner should have chucked this case
    out in the pre-trial when it was determined that you had no evidence
    but were making up hearsay right and left.  And once I revealed that
    you tried to bribe me to fabricate some evidence against ACC Chris, he
    should have had you disbarred.
    
    Why don't you just go back into the courtroom, end this latest huff of
    yours, and lose this case like a manly lawyer, instead of trying to rig
    things forever in your favor?  Sports noters might do something more
    than laugh at you for a change.
    
    Dan, waiting to give more key testimony
110.616Need a 21-gun salute ???SHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyThu Feb 08 1990 20:4212
    Hey, T, in case you hadn't noticed, the Celtics beat the Hornets
    last night.
    
    Schneider and Ross were there.  The contest is over, the prizes
    have been awarded, and the prizes have been consumed.
    
    You are now arguing a futile case, if it ever had a prayer.
    
    Please give it up and go back to handling your customers.  DEC
    needs the money.
    
    Bob Hunt
110.619Must confess, I hate Dean Smith, too...NAC::G_WAUGAMANThu Feb 08 1990 20:575
    
    Not me.  Not enough hours in the day.
    
    glenn
    
110.620it was that 'detox' comment that did itLACV01::PETRIEsentence first,trial after!Thu Feb 08 1990 21:0128
    
    Your Honor, 
    
    After nearly 24 hours of agonized deliberation, I have decided to 
    come forward with the Truth about Messrs. Schneider and Ross at 
    last night's game.  *I* am the Miami Heat fan who was seated 
    beside them.
    
    During *no* part of the game while I was in their presence was any 
    mention ever made (complimentary or un-) of UNC-Chapel Hill, the 
    Tarheels, or Dean Smith.  There _was_ a comment made about James 
    Worthy; however, it was in relation to his play on the Lakers and 
    not about his collegiate career.
    
    In addition, the gentlemen greeted the introduction of JR Reid 
    (may someone throw an elbow at *his* teeth someday) with "oh yeah, 
    he's the one we're supposed to be watching..."   They also were 
    unfamiliar with the Hornets' line-up - asking _me_ who was #55 
    (Stuart Gray).  It was shocking.  Shocking.
    
    Mr. ACC_Knorr hoped to choose someone to attend the game who 
    resembled him in attitude and interests.  Clearly, he chose wrong.
    If I may offer an opinion, Your Honor, it seems to me that this 
    should be punishment enough.   If he *is* guilty of running a 
    corrupt contest, he received his just desserts.
    
    sincerely,
    Kathy
110.621Dan knows Carolina!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 08 1990 22:5717
    ACK!  Why the hey don't ya just drive a stake through my heart Kathy?!
    
    I can't believe you.  Just can't.  For my own self-preservation I
    can't.  Why, I personally attended a Denver Nuggets game with Dan
    myself and you shoulda heard him going *wild* every time Walter Davis
    made another slick move, or Doug Moe outfoxed his coaching counterpart.
    Heck, people were starting to look at us funny - and we were pulling for 
    the *home* team!
    
    Now Mr.Ross, that's a different story.  But *PLEASE* keep in mind that
    he was NOT my contest winner.  Dan was.
    
    Go get 'em Dean.  (BTW - Dean told me he'll be ready to cross-examine
    Schneid & Ross tomorrow, judge-willing.)
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.622I've got some secrets ;-)RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOProposals - the Devils workThu Feb 08 1990 23:307
    To the court.  Despite highly unethical pleas from ACCrisp, I am
    unable to make the stand right now.  Work has tied me up, so to
    speak, and limited my time.
    
    However, when I do take the stand, the nodes will tremble.
    
    JD
110.623AXIS::ROBICHAUDWitnessProtectionProgramFri Feb 09 1990 10:464
    	Give it up Bob "Witch" Hunt.  You're nothing but a nattering
    nabob of negativism.  Bravo MrT, BRAVO!
    
    				/Don
110.624Beware...CAM::WAYFri Feb 09 1990 12:2724
When the members of the defeated German Waffen SS scattered on the four
winds at the end of WWII, there were certain people who dedicated their
lives to search for them, and bring them to justice for their heinous
crimes.

And so, I put forth to you, that despite the fact that the game is history,
the ticket naught but used stubs collecting lint in the bottom of Onan's
pocket, the affront to justice and human decency that this contest became
still exists.

God is not pleased, I am not pleased, and many other good and decent
people of OURGNG County are not pleased.

The TRUTH will be found.  It will be ferretted out of the dark corner
where ACC Chris and his Cabal of Crooked Cronies (tm) have tried to
hide it.  But, like the flame of a single candle which singlehandedly
defeats all Darkness, the Truth still shines.  Like a brilliant beacon
it beckons to us from that corner.  It will be found.

And on that day, retribution will be swift and savage.  The dead will
rise from their graves to engulf the wrong doers, and the Four Horsemen
of the Apocalypse will ride the Earth...

Hear Now, and Heed my words...
110.625Alright. Who stole the oysters?SASE::SZABOthe Mad WhackerFri Feb 09 1990 12:353
    Someone's pee-pee will be whacked before this is over, I promise you.
    
    Balliff Hawk
110.626SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Fri Feb 09 1990 12:373
       About time you showed up bailif, will you escort that phony judge
    outta here, please!
                                      Denny
110.627This thing could drag longer than Gov't vs. IBM. :^(RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 09 1990 12:4611
    This judge thing is a real shame.  Wapner was doing a fine job,
    regardless of his identity.  Why not just let him stay on and get this
    trial going again.
    
    In point of fact, can anybody point out ANY wrong or inequitable
    decisions Wapner's made?  I think he's been fair, even though he hasn't
    sided with me very often.
    
    Humbly,
    
    - Dean
110.628MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Fri Feb 09 1990 12:4831
    
    "G'morning, people.  Everybody sleep well last night? (Pssst...I
    guess I'm a little late again this morning...did I miss anything
    important?).  Here, buddy, have a doughnut, and pass 'em down the
    bench.  Stay away from the powdered sugar ones if you're wearing
    black, though.  Hey, and make sure the guy down the other end gets
    one. He was kind enough to share his joint with us yesterday. Ha
    Ha, look at 'im, he's already got powder under his nose and he hasn't
    even had a doughnut yet.  Who is he anyway?
    
    "By the way, is this trial carried on ESPN or anything like that?
     If it is, then it must be 'cabal television.'  Hahaha...get it?
    Cabal?  That's a T-word.  Haven't you been listening the last few
    days?
    
    "Ah, thank God it's Friday, eh?  Huh?  What do you mean 'sequestered
    for the weekend?'  No way, Jose!  Hey judge! Sequester *this*! 
    I got a promise this weekend! (Pssst..I guess I told 'im, eh?)
    
    Hey, buddy, give me your hand a minute.. there, feel under the bench.
    Wow...there must be fifty years worth of gum under there!  Like,
    what if some of it is, like, the gum of some famous person. Anyway,
    they may even be dead by now.  Wow, imaging chewing the gum of some
    dead guy!  Pretty freaky thought, huh?
    
    "...Wha? You talkin to me?  Sorry Mr. Bailiff.  Uh, it won't happen
    again.  No, really.  Hey, what are you gonna do with that pointer?
    Hey, no! I told you I'd shut up... WHACK!  OWWOOOOooooooooOOOO!"
    
    -Dick
    
110.629Thanks for the honor, but I must not remain silentLUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSFri Feb 09 1990 13:016
    I feel that I must reveal evidence that I have in this case. Please
    find a juror to take my place.
    
    Thank you,
    
    DrM
110.631Fighting all odds to seek justice.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 09 1990 14:087
    Since we're having such a hard time getting witnesses to the stand,
    I'll go along with allowing DrM to testify.  However I'd at least like
    the courtesy to cross-examine him after ADA-T is finished with him.
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.632SASE::SZABODesparately Seeking WhackeesFri Feb 09 1990 14:142
    
    
110.633LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSFri Feb 09 1990 14:166
    That's *Doctor* to you two.
    
    Anyhow my speciality is in objective analytical discourse of sports,
    particularly in football and basketball.
    
    In addition I am a patron of worthy causes.
110.634COOKIE::MJOHNSTONLife'sAfemaleDog!? WhatayaMean?Fri Feb 09 1990 14:3436
Murmurs from the Jury:

	Hey! There's J.R. Ried!

	Shh. That's Dr Midnight

	The famous Celtic Spy!!!!!!!

	SH! Nobody's supposed to know that.

	Hey bud, where'd you get all the balloons?

	Those are condoms, Noodlenose.

	Wow, whoever gave me all those oysters yesterday, the Canuck Minx says 
	Thanks.

	Now we Know why Judge Wapner was wearing a wig.

	Who's Judge Wapner?

	Pay ATTENTION!!

	SHHH!!!

	The Bailiff looks like he slept in his clothes.

	Actually, it looks like he slept in somebody else's clothes, that's a
	blue blouse, and he has one high heel on.

	That guy with the chain saw must be a holy roller. He walked right up
	to me and said `God is peace'.

	He SAID " God is PISSED " , Dorkface!!!!

	S H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
110.635DrM "objective"??? HO HO HAH!!!!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 09 1990 14:3913
    OBJECTION!  Immaterial and highly subjective.  Since we don't have a
    judge, I'll direct my comments directly to the jury.  DrM is no more an
    "objective analyst" than ADA-T is Perry Mason.  He's as biased as
    they come, and is no patron of worthy causes that I know of.  
    
    No, the good doc is much more famous for emotional outbursts,
    intermixed with some verbatim material quoted from an apparently
    exhaustive sports reference library.  He's also been known to offer a
    bribe or two, but we'll here more about *that* little tendency during the
    cross-examination.  :^|
    
    
    - Dean
110.636CAM::WAYFri Feb 09 1990 14:4744
From:	KEOPS::GOD           9-FEB-1990 04:09:29.13
To:	CAM::WAY
CC:	
Subj:	No one being sworn in...

Chainsaw!  Chainsaw!

Unto thee I give my true Commandment.  Prostrate thyself and prepare
to hear.....


First off, my son, you should get me a version of NOTES for my 9000
in Heaven.  It's getting damned inconvenient to keep having to convince
the DECnet objects on KEOPS that "I am that I am".  Thou shalt
send me a version, and I shall have the Holy Ghost install it post
haste.

Second, I'm very perturbed that no one in the OURGNG County Court
is being sworn in.  When, at the end of the swearing in, they say
"So help you, God", it is not just a cliche.  If they say that, then
I make sure they tell the truth.

Also, tell MrT that his prayers have been answered.  I am sending him
strength for the ordeal.  Tell ACC Chris that if he confesses his wrong
doings, and repents of his scurrilous ways, that his place in Heaven
is still ensured.

And Chainsaw, I must have a word with you about your threats of bodily
harm to other individuals.  Threatening to dismember people, verily I
say unto you, threatening to deface their genitalia with your chainsaw,
is not acceptable.  Thou shalt not raise thy chainsaw 'gainst any man
who hast threatened you not with bodily harm.  Thou shalt abide
my Commandments or I shall strike thee down with lightening from on
high.

Finally, please inform the Bailiff, that the wearing of women's clothes
goes against the "Honor Thy Father and Mother" commandment.  If they
had wanted him to wear women's clothing, I would have made him 
a girl.


Chainsaw, rise now, my son, and spread to all the tidings....

I have spoken...
110.637PNO::HEISEReschew obfuscationFri Feb 09 1990 14:567
>    Anyhow my speciality is in objective analytical discourse of sports,
>    particularly in football and basketball.
    
    See what happens when you forget to make them take the oath to tell the
    Troof, so help you God!!!
    
    Mike
110.638look at him run!SASE::SZABOOURGNG District Mad Whacker BailiffFri Feb 09 1990 15:041
    Looks like there's a pee-pee that needs whacking!  Dock?
110.639RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOProposals - the Devils workFri Feb 09 1990 15:117
    May not have time for testimony today, but when I do, haids will
    roll heheheheheheheheheheheheheh.
    
    I've also got a list of cross charges to file that could keep this
    sucker in court until nexted year!!!
    
    Sarge
110.640Cross-charges?? Ya gotta be joking!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 09 1990 15:186
    What's a matter JD, can't squeeze your lats into that T-shirt??
    
    Hah!!!!!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.641This is STILL my courtroom.HUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeFri Feb 09 1990 15:3325
    "All rise!  The courtroom is now in session.
    
    "This court has been nothing but fair and impartial throughout these
    proceedings.  Instead of basing any decisions on innuendo, the counsels
    ought to examine the spotless record thusfar produced in the court
    ledger.  ADA-T's attempt to avoid justice has failed and the trial
    shall continue as planned.  Any more desparate moves by the prosecutor,
    doubtlessly inspired by the late senator from Wisconsin, Joe McCarthey,
    and I shall find ADA-T in contempt and order the good Bailiff Szabo to
    whack his peepee without mercy!
    
    "Further, there are allegations of jury-tampering now.  It is not
    allowable for a jurist to resign, and then attempt to take the stand
    for the prosecution!  It is a complete lack of ethics and lawyerly
    training that the prosecutor would even move to have a former jurist
    give testimony on this behalf.  Therefore, we shan't delay justice in
    this matter.  Bailiff, remove Jurist Brooks from the jury box, by force
    if necessary, and give him your suitable punishment.  No, you can't use
    my gavel.
    
    "We shall commence where we left off.  Either the testimony of Mr.
    Devlin will be heard, or the cross-examinations of Mr. Ross or Mr.
    Schneider."
    
    Judge Wapner
110.642Get lost Schneider/Knorr/Wapner. You're history!AXIS::ROBICHAUDWitnessProtectionProgramFri Feb 09 1990 15:381
    
110.643RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOProposals - the Devils workFri Feb 09 1990 15:456
    Yo Judge,
    
    COMTEMPT this!  You'll hang in hell, buddy.
    
    Sarge
    
110.644HEURIS::METZGERI will not Burp in classFri Feb 09 1990 15:4812
Notice...


Once again we have a KNorr reply then a wapner reply....

Leave us ACCyst-wapner....

Let's get a real judge in on these proceedings


Metz
110.645Whew, this one hurt!CAM::WAYFri Feb 09 1990 15:5132
From:	HELL::AHRIMAN        9-FEB-1990 11:47:29.13
To:	CAM::WAY
CC:	
Subj:	I am not pleased

Chainsaw!  Chainsaw!

Bow down to me you speck of vermin feces!

How dare you enter the utterings of my adversary in this court!  Don't
you know that *I* Lucifer, the Morning Star, aka Beelzebub, aka Old
Scratch, aka Satan, control the Judge, the Defense, and the outcome
of this trial?

Don't you know, you inconsequential dungheap that I am the Cabal?
I am Hitler, I am Mao, I am Khomeini???  Don't you know that I
am in the body of Dean Smith, and that I am controlling all events?

That I of infinite power, even control that juror's bladder and bowels????

Don't you know that I command Onan's hand, that I command the mouth
of Mr Ross?

Chainsaw, you impotent flea-ridden toothless cur, if you persist in
putting my adversary's utterings in here, I will rack your body
with pustulent sores, I will shrink your genitalia to miniscule
proportions, I will make you regurgitate green pea-soup/oatmeal vomitus
all over your beloved slut Kelly Bundy....

And tell Bailiff Szabo that he is not whacking hard enough for my tastes!

Thus I have spoken....
110.646MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Fri Feb 09 1990 16:5820
    
    "Hang him!  Toss him into the slammer for life!"
    
    Judge:  "May I remind the jury that I have not yet called upon you
            to submit any decisions yet as to the disposition of the
            defendant."
    
    "Defendant, hell! I mean the prosecutor!  He's takin' so long to
    put forth some evidence that he's screwing up my whole orgiastic
    weekend!  I mean this chick I got lined up is *fine*, and she's
    got these really big... Hold it, bailiff!  I know, I know, I'll
    sit down and be good.
    
    "Pssst...what's that guy with the chainsaw doin' grovelling on the
    floor of courtroom."
    
    "...some kind of prostrate problem."
    
    -Dick
    
110.648CAM::WAYGotta love them Jamaican Bobsledders!Fri Feb 09 1990 17:2022
All I got to say is you folks better get on with this....

I mean, I've got God shoutin' at me through one of my development
nodes, because he doesn't have notes on his VAX9000 (wonder who the
salesman was for *that* deal?), I've got the devil bustin'
through on his own node (I don't even wanna know...),
and now, the Church Lady wants me to appear on her show.

Meanwhile, I've been waitin' to see what all this evidence is.

Also, I wouldn't trust Judge Wapner as far as you could throw him.
He's as much of a Judge as I am a Roman Catholic priest...

In the meantime, I've got these sores starting to come up, all over
my body, and dang it, I've been burpin' pea soup and oatmeal all morning.

So, would all of you legal dweebles puh-lease get some evidence out
here...fergit about Wapner, fergit about Smif'...just get it out
here.....

Chainsaw

110.649Damning Evidence!COOKIE::MJOHNSTONLife'sAfemaleDog!? WhatayaMean?Fri Feb 09 1990 17:2532
I received this a little bit ago. After some thought, I decided it shoul be
posted. I think it speaks for itself.

Mike JN

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Dearest Mike JN,

	I put this in the file, then decided to send it to you and delete it.
Maybe you can decide if it should go back in or not.

	There's something fishy about that judge (besides his breath). For one
thing, the teeny peeny twerp was useless. Plus, he spent half the night trying
to convince me he was the second coming of Joe Namath. Plus, he's got a New
York Jets sticker on his butt (Wierd, huh?). Plus, he kept getting in these
long, involved phone conversations with a Mr. Nor (or something like that).
Plus!! (and this really torqued me off), he kept calling me Kelly! (You know I
hate that, and Kelly was with Frank, anyway). I can't keep track of what is
going on with this stupid trial, you know I can't keep track of this kind of
stuff. So I'm going back to your house. I talked to Roxette, and she's planning
on hanging around. She thinks the Bailiff is a cutie-pie. (She also said she
can't find her high heels anywhere). Tell me what happened when you get home
tonight.

Love and X's
Your Babs
110.650CAM::WAYCliff Claven's my uncle!Fri Feb 09 1990 17:3327
Meanwhile, word of the trial has reached a nearby drinking
establishment....


	Cliff:  See, whatcha got here, is yer, ah, basic corruption
	        type trial....  This guy, Snore, er, ah, whatever
	   	his name is, rooked off a buncha yer basic computer
	 	types, for some tickets fer the, ah, Celtics..

	Norm:  	Bet that never woulda happened in the Post Office,
		eh, Cliff?

	Cliff:	Nah, yer postal carriers are a pretty sharp bunch,
	  	if I do say so myself, there, Norm.

	Norm:	Whadda ya think of this Wapner guy?

	Cliff:	I dunno, there, Norm.  Somethin' about him ain't
		right, ya know.

	Woody:	Judge Wapner's okay.  He was in here the othe day.

	Norm: 	He was?

	Woody:  Yeah, he gave me this NY Jets jacket...pretty nice, huh?

		
110.6528^)CAM::WAYCliff Claven's my uncle!Fri Feb 09 1990 17:508
>    Doctor, you seem to be burdened with an odious onus there, those
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^

Not to be confused with "adios anus" which is what Pancho Villa
used to yell to the Sheriff of the towns he would ransack...

HTH,
Chainsaw
110.653LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSFri Feb 09 1990 17:5316
    First of all, let me say that I don't want to be within a cold country
    mile of Frank Way when the Man Upstairs decides to fry his girly-mon
    behind.
    
    Furthermore, I am a witness. Period. Not for the prosecution or
    the defense. My shoulders do not sag at all.
    
    Well, anyhow, it's like this T :
    
    As you know (and anybody who knows me), I could not 1) Give a hoot
    in hell for the Fungus, uh Celtics, or N.C. basketball. I like SWC
    and Big East basketball. J.R. Reid could stack plates on his butt
    until he gets Carolina blue in the face, I could care less.
    
    So I wrote a reply that I figured wouldn't win, and I asked Chris
    in the mail what he thought of it for fun. And ....
110.654Guess I must answer to a Higher Authority...CAM::WAYNorm's best friendFri Feb 09 1990 18:0227
From:	KEOPS::GOD           9-FEB-1990 14:49:29.13
To:	CAM::WAY
CC:	
Subj:	Dr Midnight a Doubting Thomas?

Chainsaw!  Chainsaw!

Unto thee I give my true Commandment.  Prostrate thyself and prepare
to hear.....

Carry my word unto Doubting Thomas Dr Midnight....

The Chainsaw is an Instrument of My Word...he is not a girly-mon, 
but a duly appointed representative of the City, Country, and State
of Heaven.  

I would not "fry his behind" unless he makes more idle threats about
dismemberment of innocent people.

However, my Commandment about not bearing false witness is reiterated
to all those who take the stand...

Chainsaw, arise my son, and carry the Word to the heathens in the
courtroom....

Thus, I have spoken

110.657COOKIE::MJOHNSTONLife'sAfemaleDog!? WhatayaMean?Fri Feb 09 1990 18:1036
Murmurs from the Jury:

	What's an odious anus?

	That's ONUS!

	shhh

	The PENguin?!

	No, that's Bloom County.

	You mean Bloomfield?

	No BLOOM!!!

	SHHHH!!!

	BLOOM YOURSELF! SO BLAM! (TM)

	SHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

	What the hell's that got to do with his Anus?

	Just shutup.

	But...!

	The Prosecutor's looking at you.

	I didn't do noth...

	JUST SHUTUP!

	S H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

110.658PERN::LEFEBVRETrue love is the Devil's Yes ManFri Feb 09 1990 18:2356
    (The stunned masses turn towards the courtroom door as the rumble
    of murmurs and whispers overtake the trial scene.  All of a sudden
    the courtroom doors burst open as the stoic silhouette of a lean,
    but wirery figure emerges from the sunlit hallway.  The ladies in
    the courtroom attendance gasp at the man they only heard of, but
    never had the grace of meeting in person....
    
    ...As he saunters into the courtroom, the star witness glances toward
    the bailiff and scoffs aloud in contempt.  "Whack *this*," he thinks
    to himself in mock arrogance.
    
    He settles in on the witness stand and stands awaiting the court
    officer to approach him with the Bible)

>        Mr. Lefebvre, doyousweartotellthewholetruthandnothingbutthetruthso
>    helpyouGod?

        
    LEFEBVRE: (Looking around, obviously looking for a spit-toon)
    <sphlaaattt> (The courtroom groans in disgust as the witnesses hurls
     a jetstream of tobacco juice on the courtroom floor.
    
    "Sorry, your Honor."
    
    "I do"
    
>    Mr. Lefebvre, earlier Mr. Dan Schneider - the witness not the phony
>    judge - testified that he had planned to take you with his second
>    ticket.  Now, one would wonder what made Mr. Schneider so certain
>    that he'd win in the first place, but the guy's a_egomaniac so we'll
>    leave that outta this.  
>    
>    But he changed his mind and decided to use it to take another guest
>    to the game.  Please tell the court the explanation given you by
>    Mr. Schneider when he told you that you'd been dealt out of his
>    plans.

    "Well, Mr. Shaughnessy, it wasn't exackaly like you said. Actually,
    Mr. Schneider never actually agreed to take me to the game, but
    rather, he said he'd "keep me in mind".  This occurred several
    days before the end of the contest."
    

    Anyway, after the contest winner was announced, I send an inquiry
    to Mr. Schneider asking if he would consider me as a guest, seeing
    as I've never had the pleasure of attending a Celtics game.'
    
>    MrT: And what was his response?    

    Well, I forget the exact wording, but Mr. Schneider said the did
    consider taking me, but that he was "coerced" into taking the runner
    up."
    
        
    
    
110.659CAM::WAYNorm's best friendFri Feb 09 1990 18:251
Ooohh, ahhhhhh, ooohhh, ahhhhh, murmur,murmur, murmur....
110.660CAM::WAYNorm's best friendFri Feb 09 1990 18:263
Lufay to the Courtroom Artist:

	Dammit, don't draw them velour shorts!
110.661CAM::WAYNorm's best friendFri Feb 09 1990 18:285
Oohhh, ahhhh, ooohh, ahhhh


Howard Cosell:  And the crowd goes wild with Lufay's testimony...Lufay
	        could go *all* **the** ***way***!
110.662PERN::LEFEBVRETrue love is the Devil's Yes ManFri Feb 09 1990 18:304
    LEFEBVRE (to stenographer):  "Hey honey, we could use a cook like
    you up at Deer Camp."
    
    
110.664SASE::SZABOOURGNG District Mad Whacker BailiffFri Feb 09 1990 18:329
    Thinking to myself......
    
    .......this Lufay guy better hope da judge don't order up a whacking
    for him.  Boy, I'd like to whack the living spit outta his pee-pee,
    friggin' velour-faced Volvo yuppie freak.......
    
    Hrrumph!
    
    
110.665Dammit, someone cut the cheese again!!!PFSVAX::JACOBMario's Streak= 44 gamesFri Feb 09 1990 18:327
    re.650
    
    I thought Cliffie was last seen nearing the world's record for s stupid
    stunt, ie consecutive hours on the new mechanical bull at Cheers!!!!
    
    JaKe
    
110.666whatta trial :^)DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 09 1990 18:3310
>Carry my word unto Doubting Thomas Dr Midnight....


	Chainsaw, thanks for clearing this up for me. I always wondered
what Doc Midnight's first name was..

	"Paging Dr. Midnight, Dr, Thomas Midnight... Your Celtics seasons
tickets are h... oops, it says here not to say that out loud"

	Jim M
110.667Boy, what a bad dream this is....CAM::WAYNorm's best friendFri Feb 09 1990 18:3629
From:	HELL::SATAN          9-FEB-1990 15:20:29.13
To:	CAM::WAY
CC:	
Subj:	I am not pleased

Chainsaw!  Chainsaw!

Bow down to me you speck of vermin feces!

WHO IS THIS WILDMAN THAT HAS ENTERED UPON THE STAND AND SWORN WITH
THE HELP OF MY ADVERSARY?????....

ANSWER ME you goat's testicle?  I am controlling this trial and I
know nothing of this witness???

Answer me I COMMAND YOU!!!!!!

If you do not find out who this witness is (and where he got those
cute velour shorts) I will put a pox on thee and all of thy line.

I command the body of Dean Smif', where is he?  Where is his questioning
visage????

ANSWER ME you supporating, pustular sore of a Man!!!!

I will prevail.  The corruption that is ACC Chris and his contest, no
MY contest, will prevail!!!!!!

So I have spoken.,..ON your feet swine, and find my answers...
110.668CAM::WAYCliff gets world record, film @ 11Fri Feb 09 1990 18:385
McCoy to McFall:

	Dammit, Jim, you got Note .666!!!


110.669CAM::WAYCliff gets world record, film @ 11Fri Feb 09 1990 18:4115
Back at Cheers:


	Cliff:	So, ah, Norm, it says here in this, ah, paper, that
		some witness, ah, Lufay, it says his name is, just
		spilled his, ah, guts about the fix...

	Norm:	Cliff, what'd you do to your eye?

	Cliff:	Well, Norm, I always said ya gotta watch out fer yer
		keys, you know what I mean.  Anyway, I forgot to, ah,
		take them outta my pocket before I rode the bull, and
		they, ah, flew outta my pocket, and hit me in the eye...

	Norm:	Tsk, tsk, remember Cliff, Safety first....
110.670Spurious, or is that furious, noting :^)DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 09 1990 18:439
>	Dammit, Jim, you got Note .666!!!

	Sorry, I thought I was getting .663 

	Notes .663 - .665 were all entered within 1 minute - for what
may be a SPORTS NOTING record..

	Congrats, guys :^)
Jim M
110.671Your Honor, again I need a gas maskPFSVAX::JACOBMy appendage makes Sam's look smallFri Feb 09 1990 18:446
    re.669
    I thought Cliffie gave somebody his keys before hitting the Bull.
    
    
    JaKe
    
110.672CAM::WAYCliff gets world record, film @ 11Fri Feb 09 1990 18:508
re .671...

	He did...He gave Norm his car keys....But, in his haste
	to prove to the world, the quality of testosterone coursing
	throughout his body, he *forgot* to give Norm is POSTAL 
	CARRIERS keys...;^)

(Betcha thought ya had me, there, eh?)
110.673CAM::WAYCliff gets world record, film @ 11Fri Feb 09 1990 18:5826
110.674Lufay trades his integrity for a T-bribe!HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayFri Feb 09 1990 19:0624
    Lufay's a perjurer, and an ungrateful one at that.  Out of the goodness
    of my heart I was going to invite him (because he mailed me minutes
    after I entered my contest entry, obviously recognizing that the
    contest was over right away with that masterpiece), begged for a ticket
    on the grounds that he had never been to see the Celtics, and I
    told him, as he testified, that I'll keep him in mind.  And I honestly
    meant it, but when time came that I won the contest, and Chris
    suggested I take the second place finisher, who had such a noble entry
    himself, I agreed.  And I told Mark that CHris "convinced" me, not that
    he "coerced" me.
    
    Sounds to me as if the obviously shameless prosecutor got to this
    surprise witness just like he got to me, but I wouldn't take the bribe. 
    
    Your honor, you've never addressed these bribes that the prosecutor
    keeps offering everyone, such as myself, a member of the jury, and now
    Mark "The Weenie" Lufay!  It's high time you did!  (Do you notice how
    the judge keeps entering notes while I'm locked up in a class all day?)
    
    Dan, who never judges anyone
    
    
    
    Dan
110.676PFSVAX::JACOBSam is envious of my appendageFri Feb 09 1990 19:0810
    Re.672
    'Saw,
    
        I think you're really REACHING on that one.  Sounds like a minor
    fabrication to avoid an earlier mistake, maybe.
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
110.677Nice node names, T.VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good Bye!Fri Feb 09 1990 19:110
110.678CAM::WAYCliff gets world record, film @ 11Fri Feb 09 1990 19:1614
110.679PFSVAX::JACOBoh-ooh Black Betty, Ram-BalamFri Feb 09 1990 19:198
>>Jake, I'm simply taking literary license.
                          ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
    
    Is this also known as "Winging It"???
    
    JaKe
    
    
110.680Explaining away the magic...CAM::WAYCliff gets world record, film @ 11Fri Feb 09 1990 19:216
No, it's not winging it..

The creative process sometims starts from known-points and
goes from there.  I believe it's called Parody.  

I wanted to create my own Cheers scenario...that's all...
110.681Winging it!!PFSVAX::JACOBoh-ooh Black Betty, Ram-BalamFri Feb 09 1990 19:411
    
110.682CAM::WAYCliff gets world record, film @ 11Fri Feb 09 1990 19:465
Oh well, some people have no literary sense ;^)

'Saw
    

110.684CAM::WAYCliff gets world record, film @ 11Fri Feb 09 1990 20:2021
And as the sun sets on OURGNG County, the tired and worn looking
Greek Philosopher holds his lantern aloft and, looking down
the street towards the court house, spots Mr T.  A sigh of relief
passes his lips, and as he heads towards the court house, he 
knows he is close to his goal.

In the seedy section of town, Onan Dan slinks to the backalley bar,
where he will meet with Dean Smif', ACC Chris, Mr. Ahriman, and
drink cheap whisky under the portraits of Hitler, Mao and Khomeini....

Around the corner from the courthouse, in Cheers, Norm and Cliff
are still going at it, Woody is trying to figure out how they get
the Jets logo on the jacket Judge Wapner gave him, and Sam is Sam.

In Heaven, God gets all over the Holy Ghost's case, because He hasn't
been able to get into notes.

And, in the wilds of OURGNG Country, Chainsaw, Kelly, Mike JN and
Babs sit back with a couple of beers, laugh about God and the Devil,
wonder if the Bailiff will whack Lufay's pee-pee, and get ready
for a good weekend!
110.685JUPITR::PARTEECharlie -- Lemieux est le mieuxFri Feb 09 1990 20:3915
    
>    make for the Land of Upside-Down Taco Salad now let's parteeee YEAH!
>    (jury emits hearty cheer, follows Mr. Prosecutor and Balliff into
    
    What does this "partee" mean, Mr T(aco lover)?  Nothing to do with
    me, I hope.
    
    Charlie
    
    P.S.  Am I still on this jury?  I was part of the venire but cain't
    remember did I git vetoed or not.  I was watchin' Kelly's babs at 
    the time.  I been paying attention (and mewling or whacking my own 
    pee-pee to save time when I wasn't) most of the time during this trial...
    
    
110.686SAGE::ROSSMrT Workout: Chasing AmbulancesSat Feb 10 1990 11:3421
Well, I'm back from my all-expenses paid trip to Charlotte {thanks Chris}.  
Have to add a little sidebar to this trial.  

I rode over to the Charlotte DEC facility from the hotel in the courtesy
van.  It just so happened that the Utah Jazz were staying at the same 
hotel {after destroying the Hornets the night before}.  In the van
with me were just a good-old-boy driver, Hot Rod Hundley, and Darryl Griffith.
Hot Rod had a number of great quotes about the Hornets in the short
ride:

	"They are the worst team in the league"
	"J.R. Reid can't play a lick"
	"Rex Chapman should be traded to the Knicks so he can develop
	 into a good player"
	"They just run the ball up and shoot it - Tripucka, Curry,
	 Robert Reid.  No organization."

I was sitting next to the driver and all he wanted to about was Lefty
Driesell and how "he cain't stop those boys from snortin that coke!"


110.687CAM::WAYParanoia strikes deep...Mon Feb 12 1990 11:2527
As the sun rises on OURGNG county, before the cock has crowed three times,
Chainsaw is out of bed, hurrying to do the morning chores before leaving
for work and the trial.  Putting a Buffalo Springfield tape in his
Walkman, his gently kisses a still sleeping Kelly, walks out into the 
cool morning air to call the herd for the morning milking.

On a park bench, near the center of town, the Greek Philosopher stirs
from an uneasy slumber, lights his lantern, and sets about finding directions
to Mr T's house, hopeful in his quest.

In seedy section of town, in a back alley gutter, one of the Cabal of
Crooked Cronies (tm) lifts his head out of a puddle of his own vomit,
looks around, and collapes again into a stupor brought on by substance
and/or alcohol abuse...

Meanwhile, above the backalley bar, in a cheap room, Dean Smith puts on
his one good suit, and prepares to go to court.  ACC Chris is already
stirring in an adjoining room, eating his breakfast of Cheez-Its and
Hawaian Punch...

In the quiet little neighborhood not far from the courthouse, Mr T
contemplates his wardrobe for this day's upcoming conflict.  There is
confidence in his manner, and a spring in his step as he leaves the
house, get in his car and drives to court...

Another day has begun....

110.688Sorry for the interuption ...LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSMon Feb 12 1990 12:271
    I'm ready to resume my testimony in an hour .....
110.690Psst, Bailiff Szabo, is that Eric Clapton over there????CAM::WAYParanoia strikes deep...Mon Feb 12 1990 13:062
After Midnight, we gonna let it all hang out
AFter Midnight, we gonna jump and shout....
110.692AXIS::ROBICHAUDUSHockeyTeam,NYJets,BusterDouglasMon Feb 12 1990 14:048
	[A broken, bowed man clutching a tattered, faded UNC cap enters
the courtroom.  He slowly shuffles over to the witness stand and faces
the baliff.]

	Bailif:  "Doyousweartotellthetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthe
		  truth?"

	/Don:	  "I do."
110.693CAM::WAYParanoia strikes deep...Mon Feb 12 1990 14:108
110.695Let's wrap this baby upHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeMon Feb 12 1990 15:1615
    "The courtroom is now in session.  The honorable Justice Wapner
    presiding."
    
    "The court is now prepared to hear new testimony from Mr. Robichaud, or
    a cross examination of prior witnesses for the prosecution.  There
    cannot be allowed any testimony from any jurists or ex-jurists,
    including Dr. Midnight, he whom required his peepee to be whacked by
    the bailiff for his communications with the prosecutor.
    
    "It is unlawful for a prosecutor to tamper with a jurist.  There is no
    way that a jurist can resign to give testimony for the prosecution. 
    Dr. Midnight has been expunged from the jury.  His further appearence
    in this courtroom is to be ignored by all."
    
    Judge Wapner
110.696AXIS::ROBICHAUDUSHockeyTeam,NYJets,BusterDouglasMon Feb 12 1990 15:2221
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Note 110.694            Celtics Ticket Giveaway Contest!              694 of 694
MRTEE::SHAUGHNESSY "MrT: the little guy's Prosecutor" 8 lines  12-FEB-1990 11:11
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>    (walks straight up to Mr. Rochibaud)
    
>    Mr. Rochibaud, you were involved in some private communications
>    yourself in the days leading up to the rigged contest's squalid
>    conclusion.  Did you hear anything during that period that drew
>    the contest's alleged credibility into question?
    
>    MrT(errogator)

	Robichaud, Mr. Prosecutor, ROBICHAUD.  And yes I was.  I was
kidding Mike Childs about bribing ACC Chris when Mike told me that
if his brother came through for him the contest was over.  I asked him
what he meant and he explained that his brother was looking for tickets
to the ACC Tournament and if he found some for ACC Chris the Celtic tickets
were his.  I asked him if he were joking and he said no, but the chances of
his brother coming through for him were getting worse each day. 
110.697CAM::WAYParanoia strikes deep...Mon Feb 12 1990 15:3030
From:	KEOPS::GOD           12-FEB-1990 12:15:29.13
To:	CAM::WAY
CC:	
Subj:	His brother

Chainsaw!  Chainsaw!

Unto thee I give my true Commandment.  Prostrate thyself and prepare
to hear.....

First, Chainsaw, I'm getting somewhat disappointed in your efforts
to obtain the latest NOTES software for Me.  I can't keep invading
your development node to send these messages, it's time consuming,
and if you only knew how much Omnipotent Energy it takes to 
keep the logical link up, you'd get your butt in gear and get the
software

Second, Chainsaw, please proclaim to Mr. Childs that his brother
almost led him down the path of unrighteousness to sin and degradation.
His brother almost led him to crooked dealing with the Cabal.
Tell Mr. Childs that he is indeed his brother's keeper....

Finally Chainsaw,  proclaim to all the world that Don King is the
Antichrist (for today at least) and that Buster Douglas should be
proclaimed the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.  
(heh, heh, heh, Peter lost a bundle on Iron Mike....)

Arise Chainsaw, and walk again amongst men to do My bidding...


110.698Piece o' cakeSHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyMon Feb 12 1990 15:318
    Well, hellfire, if all Soup wanted were ACC Tournament tickets,
    all he had to do was just hop on over to Note 131 and join the
    fun.
    
    There'll be a_plenty of tickets to the ACC tilt after the Heels
    lose.
    
    Bob Hunt
110.701Lunch in OURGNG CountyCAM::WAYParanoia strikes deep...Mon Feb 12 1990 15:5128
110.702R-o-b-i-c-h-a-u-d...ROBICHAUD! Geez...AXIS::ROBICHAUDUSHockeyTeam,NYJets,BusterDouglasMon Feb 12 1990 16:021
    
110.703Don King & ADA-T are business partners. Only feasible explanation.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeMon Feb 12 1990 16:5115
    Defense calls Mr. Dan Schneider to the stand for cross-examination.
    
    Dan?!
    
    
    [A proud contest winner rises from the courtroom, with an anxious
     (look on his dark and serious face.  He strides to the stand with
     look of a man desperate to be heard.   And heard he will be.]
     
	Bailif:  "Doyousweartotellthetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthe
		  truth?"

	Dan:	  "I do."
    
    
110.704Ooohhh, this is gonna hurt. Oh my yes!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeMon Feb 12 1990 16:51180
(Insert sight of Dean strutting out from behind his desk, tugging on
 his jacket and tie, eyeballing the jury with a "Now we'll get to the
 bottom of this!" look, and approaching one Mr. Dan Schneider.  Dan's
 sitting a bit apprehensively on the witness stand, having just pledged
 to the bailiff that, indeed, this will be the Truth, the Whole Truth,
 and Nothing but the Truth, ... so help him God.)


Dean:	"Dan, could you share with us your true feelings about UNC
	basketball."

Dan:	"W, w, well, C-C-Coach Smi, Smith,

(Insert sound of Dan's voice sounding a little shaky at this point.
 Apparently even the good perfessor's a little nervous at the prospect
 of being interogated by a legend.)

	f-f-first I'd like to ex-express what an honor it is to meet you and
	have you cross-examining me.  F-F-Forgive me if I seem a little 
	n-n-nervous."

(Insert almost complete silence in the courtroom.  You could hear
 a pin drop at this point of high drama.)

Dean:	"My pleasure Dan.  And might I just add a little thanks of my
	own to you.  ACC Chris tells me you've been doing some fine work
	in SPORTS over the years in support of our program.  Thank you,
	and try to relax."

Dan:	"Right coach.  Well, as you say, my feelings on UNC basketball
	have been well established."

(Insert sound of a now-confident Dan.  The courtroom is breathing a
 little easier now.)

	"I am not a native of North Carolina, nor am I an alumni of the 
	university.  In short, I have never pre-judged the school; my 
	feelings for them have been entirely obtained through an objective 
	manner."

Dean:	"Go on."

Dan:	When I became a college basketball fan, it was natural to seek a 
	role model within the field, someone to admire and enjoy.  It is 
	well known that coaches are the real institutions in the sport.  
	A review of the field of coaches leaves a few shining examples, 
	but only one who best captures all that is good about the sport 
	and the competition, only one who never breaches the horrible
	depths that others fall into, only one who sustains an excellent 
	record of success and consistency, only one with the moral fiber 
	to actually adhere to a higher goal than mere winning, only one 
	with an unprecedented record of success for developing his youngsters 
	into accomplished professionals.  That one, your honor, gentlemen 
	of the jury, ladies, is of course, you, Mr. Counselor, Dean Smith.

(Insert sight of the notoriously humble Dean, looking more than a little
 uncomfortable when confronted with this emotional mega-praise.)

Dean:	"Why, thank you Dan.  Thank you.  Please go on."

Dan:	"My feelings for the program are thus exposed.  I have been 
	ojectively convinced to become a proponent of its cause.  There 
	is no higher testimony."

Dean:	"Dan, could you state before the court, and let me remind you that 
	you are under oath, the *exact* timing of the interchange between
	yourself and ACC Chris."

Dan:	"I'd be glad to coach, and I think this will clear up this whole
	mess that's gotta the honorable ACC Chris into so much unnecessary
	trouble."

	"I notice that the entire crux of Tailgunner T's charges hinges on 
	the proposition that ACC would have awarded the tickets to someone 
	other than myself or Doug, if I hadn't acceded to his wise and fair 
	request to take my worthy opponent (and let me tell you, after 
	Wednesday night, Doug was Worthy'ed to the max!).  It's as if, 
	Tailgunner T speculates, if I said "No" that /Don or the equally 
	unworthy Metz would have been declared the contest winner.  But it 
	just isn't so, and my testimony will prove that beyond the shadow 
	of a doubt.

(Insert Dean looking to the jury with a well-rehearsed raised eye-brow
 look, as if to say "Ahhh.  Now we're getting somewhere ladies and
 gentlemen!  Listen closely here!!")

	"In Tailgunner T's attempts to bribe me before the trial started, 
	he stupidly "

Dean:	"Dan, please.  Let's refrain from any emotional comments.  We'll let
	the jury determine just how much intelligence ADA-T has lacked 	
	during this proceeding.  Now, just the facts please."

Dan:	"Sorry coach.  As I was saying, when ADA-T tried to bribe me before

(insert sight of the jury leaning forward at the sound of the word "bribe"
 and simultaneously looking over at ADA-T, who's giving one of dem phoney
 head shaking, "I couldn't a done dat" looks.)

	the trial started he didn't ask me *when* in complete context our 
	mail-message conversation took place.  This isn't surprising, 
	because not only has he revealed himself as totally incompetant, but 
	it's apparent that he wants to rig every aspect of the trial, from 
	judge to jury to even your own defense.  All he knew was it was 
	before the contest was finished, which is what he has presented so 
	far, and thus led the jury to believe that the winner somehow was 
	in doubt.  It is the linchpin of his entire case!"

Dean:	"Indeed!  Go on Daniel."

Dan:	I hate to do this to my poor, incompetent friend, but his case is 
	kaput.  All the mail messages which were corresponded to the contest 
	judge concerning who I would take to the game were made after the 
	contest was cut down to the final 2!!!  This of course means that 
	the bitter  third and fourth place finishers and the rest of the 
	wannabes, such as Frank Way and John Devlin, had *long* been 
	eliminated before any such arrangements were made."

(Insert sound of murmoring in the courtroom as everyone realizes the 
 significance of this.)

Dan:	"So, the jury must be made to see the folly of Tailgunner T's 
	assumptions, the gaping hole he left in his research, the information 
	he didn't want to know and he didn't want anyone else to know, 
	because his case no longer has a leg to stand on.  The only 
	possible persons with a gripe against the outcome of the contest 
	are myself, who used his extra ticket on Doug Ross, and Doug, 
	who might have had two tickets in the unlikely event that the 
	jury would believe that the contest judge did not grade fairly.  
	Of course, this is not the case."

Dean:	"Thank you Dan.  You may step down."

(Insert Dean heading back to his desk and then, in a classic Lt. Columbo
 impersonation, turns back to Dan again.)

Dean:	"One more thing Dan before you step down.  Could you shed some
  	light on the testimony Kathy entered earlier today, regarding
	your behavior during the Hornets game Wednesday night?"

Dan:	"Well coach, I was surprised by that.  Kathy should recall that 
	it was Doug who made the detox crack. Myself I had charmed her 
	so much with my basketball knowledge and manly style that she 
	offered me a paid junket to Miami for the apparent purpose of 
	taking me to a Heat game, but I suspect that there was a deep, 
	dark ulterior motive to her offer!  One lousy beer and she was 
	putty in my hands."

(Insert sight of jury looking over at Kathy with a shameful look.)

Dan:	I'll have it known that Doug and I cheered aggressively throughout 
	the game for J.R. Reid, .  I especially noted his nice soft shot, 
	his good movement and his court awareness.  JR also surprised me 
	with some nice dribbling, but I shouldn't have been too surprised, 
	considering his Dean background, where potential has a habit of 
	becoming exceptionally well-rounded NBA talent. As for any jibes, 
	it was Armen Gilliam's head I was making fun of, although the 
	usual round of plate-stacking jokes were made about JR's and 
	Tailgunner T's massive back-side cheeks.  In all, JR acquited himself 
	quite well, and even the redoubtable Ms. Petrie will testify as to 
	where my allegiances lay: solidly on the side of JR Reid and the 
	rest of the Charlotte squad.

Dean:	"Thank you Dan."

Dean:	"Your honor, I'd like a brief recess to gather my notes before
	continuing the questioning.  I want the jury to be ready for my
	next serious of questions, which should shed *much* light on the 
	case ADA-T has put together."

Judge:	"So granted.  This court will resume in 10 minutes."

(Insert BANG! of the Wapner's gavel.)

Stay tuned folks.  We're about to hear some vewy intewesting testimony,
I assure you!


- Dean
    
110.705And now .... The only *REAL* bribe ... REVEALED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeMon Feb 12 1990 16:5764
    Judge:	(BANG! BANG!) "Court is now in session.  (BANG!)  Dean, 
    		you may continue your cross examination of Mr. Schneider."
    
    Dean:	"Thank you your honor."
    
Dean:	"Dan, you mentioned in your testimony that ADA-T had offered
	you a bribe.  I was shocked to here you say this, especially
	in light of ADA-T's Hollywood outrage over similar charges
	he's launched against my client."

Dan: 	"Well, yes coach, I was shocked at the mail as well.  T usually 
	sends me mail in the same hurtful tones he reserves for other 
	NCAA title-winning coaches, those people who have earned something 
	which he thought belonged to another, and thus he harbors an 
	immense immature jealousy for them.  I've seen it in OURGNG::SPORTS 
	and I've seen it in our previous mail conversations.

	But this time, he was really putting on the charm, saying how my entry
	was obvoiusly not in question for its quality, and how I had righteously
	won the tickets and would get to go to the game, but isn't there
	*anything* you can tell me that would frame ACC Chris?  When I told
	him in all truthfulness what went on before the contest was over, and
	made certain the innocent nature of the events was known to him, he
	increased the pressure on me, begging and pleading with me to come up
	with something, since I was in the clear, and finally offering me an
	honest-to-goodness bribe."

Dean:	"Dan, could you tell us the *exact* details of the bribe."

Dan:	"Sure.  We had been discussing rotisserie baseball trade talks, 
	and T offered me the chance to "rip him off in a trade" in 
	exchange for any damaging testimony I could give him."

(Insert a collective *GASP* in the courtroom.  Even blind disciple Frank
 1Way is looking at ADA-T with a suspicious eye.)

Judge:	"ORDER IN THIS COURT.  Mr. Schneid, er, Schneider, please 
	continue."

Dan:	"Well, needless to say I was shocked!  Not only was he willing to 
	compromise all legal decorum, but he was willing to destroy the 
	competitive balance within our league with this offer.  Obviously 
	this case has gotten the better of his right mind."

Dean:	"Thank you Dan."

Dean:	"No further questions for this witness your honor."

(Insert the sight of the entire jury looking at ADA-T with a "Let's lynch
 'em now!" stare.  ADA-T sinks down low, shuffling papers to try and look
 busy, kinda like a kid in a class when he doesn't want the teacher to 
 call on him.  But ADA-T's luck runs out when a voice booms ...)

Judge:	ADA-T, KINDLY REPORT TO MY QUARTERS AT ONCE.  This trial will take
	a 1-hour recess.  (Insert BANG! BANG! of the judge's gavel.)

ADA-T:	(in a whimper) yes sir.

(Insert sound of loud wailing from the good judges chambers, as he once
 again takes ADA-T over his knee.)


Not a pretty picture.  Not a pretty picture at all.
    
110.706USRCV1::COLOTTIRThick as a brickMon Feb 12 1990 17:052
    Mr. Judge, MrT(rouble) is obviously baiting the witness.
    
110.707One fix covers another ...LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSMon Feb 12 1990 17:101
    I protest this attempt to censor my highly important evidence !
110.708HEURIS::METZGERI will not Instigate RevolutionMon Feb 12 1990 17:127
Isn't amazing how dan said all that without his lips even moving....

Strike that testimony as it did not come from the account of mr. Flatulance...
Dan Schnieder.....

Metz
110.709LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Mon Feb 12 1990 17:155
    
    agreed, it is *BLATANT* manipulation.  I would be appalled, judge,
    dude.
    
    sean
110.710CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Mon Feb 12 1990 17:1837
From:	KEOPS::GOD           12-FEB-1990 14:02:29.13
To:	CAM::WAY
CC:	
Subj:	I am NOT amused

Chainsaw!  Chainsaw!

Unto thee I give my true Commandment.  Prostrate thyself and prepare
to hear.....

Report this to the Court, my son.

I am NOT amused.  I am verily ashamed at the way this trial is
being handled.  All the bickering about proper legal proceedings.
All the nitpicking by the False Prophet Wapner.

Verily I say unto you (and I should not want to raise MY voice in this
Chainsaw, as the last time I did it levelled some Siberian wasteland
in 1908) that the testimony of DR Midnight should be allowed.

In all matters the TRUTH, and path of Righteousness should be sought.
There is none more Righteous that Dr Midnight.  In fact, if I may, 
I would term him One Righteous Dude.

Be that as it may Chainsaw, I am not pleased with the obfuscated
(please thank MR T for that term, and inform him I'll send him 
strength of heart in this ordeal) testimony and meanderings my
Messrs Knorr and the false Reverend Smith.  Remind them that
I, Jehovah, am the Ultimate Judge, and that some day they will
stand before ME.   On the day that the Four Horsemen ride, woe
to the Cabal of Crooked Cronies(tm).

Finally, let the world know that they are NOT to refer to you
as a blind disciple.  He who truly sees does so not with eyes of
the physical realm, but with his soul.

I have spoken Chainsaw, Rise and carry My Commandment to the world....
110.712CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Mon Feb 12 1990 17:2619
Meanwhile, in a nearby drinking establishment:


	Cliff:  Hey, ah, Norm.  It says here in this here newspaper
		that they know who, uh, Judge, uh Wapner is, there...

	Norm:	What're ya reading Cliff.

	Cliff:	Uh, it's just yer basic, uh, Weekly World News, there
		Norm.

	Norm:	So, assuming that they really know what they're talking
		about (heh, heh), what do they say.

	Cliff:	Well, there, Norm, it says here, that, uh, Judge Wapner
		is, uh, really, Don King....

	Woody:	Oh, yeah, I know him...that's the guy that does the
		talk show on CNN in the evening....
110.713the pursuit of evidence knows no boundsSAGE::ROSSMandela free, now James Brown!!!Mon Feb 12 1990 17:333
From the back of the courtroom:
	
	"Hey, ADA-T, what's that FAX number again?"
110.714DWOVAX::EROSNot much fun in Stalingrad, no...Mon Feb 12 1990 17:4917
    Re: .712
    
    >	Cliff:	Well, there, Norm, it says here, that, uh, Judge Wapner
    >		is, uh, really, Don King....
    >
    >	Woody:	Oh, yeah, I know him...that's the guy that does the
    >		talk show on CNN in the evening....

        Cliff:  No Woody, that's, uh, Larry King.  I, uh, said Don King.
                In fact, I've got a, uh, potato here that's the, uh,
                spitting image of the man himself!
    
        <Cliff produces the latest in a seemingly endless series
        of misshapen spuds.>
    
        Woody:  Gee, Mr. Claven, that looks just like my Uncle Lumpy
                before he got hit by the thresher.  Or was it after...
110.715Speaking for the little guyHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayMon Feb 12 1990 17:5584
{The scene is an impromptu press conference, on the steps of the 
OURGNG::courthouse.  Key witness, Dan Schneider, has finished
giving his testimony in a thorough cross-examination.}

Press: 	Mr. Schneider!  Mr. Schneider!

Dan:	Yes, Mr. Rather?

Rather:	Dan, how do you feel about today's testimony?

Dan:	Well, I was glad to get the load off my chess.  Since this is
	a court of law, I had to permit myself to be manipulated by Mr.
	T in last week's questioning, but the defense attorney clearly
	outsmarted him with a line of questioning that got to the
	point.  It seems to me that Mr. T's case is more dependant
	on hearsay, and how much he can connive the jury into
	believing.

Press:	Mr. Schneider! Mr. Schneider!

Dan:	Why Sam, you old son of a gun.  Good to see you!

Donaldson: You too, Dan.  Tell me, since you brought up this seeming
	fraudulance on the prosecutor's part, why have you waited until
	now to be heard?

Dan:	Sam, I've complained a few times about the bribe attempts, and
	you can find that on the record.  It was the enlightened questioning
	of Coach Smith which brought this to the forefront.  MrT is obviously
	lacking as a prosecutor, but he's skilled at getting his message
	across.  You've seen that before, right Wally?

Cronkite:	That's the way it is, Dan.

Dan:	But you boys in the press have been remiss and getting to the
	root of his issues.  You'll find beneath the outrageousness of
	his statements lies a house of cards.  You've been as willing
	dupes to his charade as the Chainsaw, or JD!

Press (heads hung so low that chins are digging into sternum): Dan, it's
	our responsibility to report the news, not make the news.

Dan:	Is that what Carl Bernstien and Bob Woodward said?  No.  While
	MrT is running roughshod, and his lemmings are echoing his 
	sentiments, it's up to you boys to let the public *really* know
	what's going on.  

	(wearily) Yes, Pat?

Buchanan: Dan, enough of this hogwash.  Just as Nixon was railroaded by
	a hostile, liberal media, these guys are always trying to get the
	guys on top.  Well I'm a part of the media now, and I'm doing 
	everything in my power to stop this manipulation.  Dick couldn't
	survive it, but my good friend Jesse Helms has survived, my 
	favorite system of government, Apartheid is still kicking, my dear
	friend Bobby Knight is still coaching, and my favorite bumbling
	attorney, MrT is still in there prosecuting.  It's the rest of the
	world that's nuts.   We're the only sane one's left!

Dan (smiling and pointing): Look Pat, it's Jerry Falwell.  He just went around the
	corner.  (Pat yips once or twice, and then rushes off for an
	autograph.)

Sawyer: 	Dan, you really shouldn't do that to Pat.  He can't help it that he's
	self-deluded.

Dan:	Quite right, Diane, I shouldn't.  Care to discuss over dinner.

Sawyer:	I thought you'd never ask...  my treat.

Dan (ducking into back seat of limo): Now, now, you got it last time.

Sawyer (right behind Dan): Yes, but you made such a delicious breakfast the
	next day.  I was hoping to rekindle the magic.

{The limo rushes off.}

Rather (to Cronkite): I don't know how he does it, Walter.  I've been hitting on her
	for years.

Cronkite: Nevermind that.  Look at how crushed Sam is now.

{fade to black}

110.716I'm hereCNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestMon Feb 12 1990 18:079
    
    A hush invokes the room a man wearing a size medium 1982 NCAA
    Championship Georgetown Hoyas TEEEE-Shirt strolls in. The Shirt is
    a few inches up on his stomach obviously the man has grown a bit 
    a since 82 but the shirt is in perfect shape having never been worn.
    
    "Mike Childs reporting in your honor"......
    
    I sweartotellthewholetroothandnothingbutthetroothsohelpmeLarry"...
110.717Good lord, all my buddies are checking in now...CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Mon Feb 12 1990 18:1414
From:	OCB::TERRANOVA           12-FEB-1990 15:04:29.13
To:	CAM::WAY
CC:	
Subj:	Chainsaw, can you get this to the court?  thnx....Vinnie


Your honor, Your honor, I have special information, if it please the
court...

Your honor, I'm agent Vincent Terranova, OCB.  I feel it only fair
to inform the court of certain improprities that we have on
file regarding Messrs Knorr, Schneider, and Smith...

Would the court be interested in hearing this information?
110.718LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSMon Feb 12 1990 18:171
    Hurry up Mike ! I olny have a few minutes to enter my testimony!
110.719RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO214 inches in 17 daysMon Feb 12 1990 18:179
    Well, if ACC Chrud wanted to totally show how low, how crooked,
    and how without morals and ethics he is, he has exceeded all
    limits with his made up judge, his made up attorney, and now his
    made up testimony from Dan.
    
    What a sham.  What a crook.  He makes South Africa's government
    look legitimate!
    
    JD
110.720no way that was goaltendingCNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestMon Feb 12 1990 18:247
    
    Dock, I'm waiting for a question, one of many I'm sure I'll be called 
    on to answer.........
    
    Hoya PAranoia.....
    
    mike
110.722and nothing but the trooth...CNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestMon Feb 12 1990 18:316
    
    Yes, ADA-T that is the exact content of the reply I received from
    ACC Chris, when I first contacted him off - note about procuring
    the tickets.....
    
    
110.723I was still under oath, of courseHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayMon Feb 12 1990 18:336
For all those witless stooges, who question my answers on my cross
examination, I swear before the courts that the accounts in the note
of the defending attorney are all my words and true.  So help me <choose
a deity>.

Dan
110.724CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Mon Feb 12 1990 18:3722
Meanwhile, back at the local drinking establishment:


	Cliff:  Hey, Norm.  You'll never guess what I just read
		here in this, uh, newspaper...

	Norm:	What's that Cliff?

	Cliff:	It says here that Roseanne Barr has dumped Tom
		Arnold for this guy ACC Chris Knorr!

	Norm: 	What paper are you reading now?

	Cliff:	It's your basic, uh, National Enquirer.  Anyway, it
		says that Roseanne dropped, uh, trow, on the Geraldo
		show, and that she, uh, had this new tattoo on her, uh,
		butt, which uh said "Carolina Shrew loves ACC", there...

	Norm:	You're kidding, Cliff

	Cliff:	No, I'm not.  In fact I just happen to have this here
		potato.....
110.725A plea for FrankWay to step forward and recognize his error.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeMon Feb 12 1990 18:5330
    You bozos were so quick to jump on me for falsifying testimony you
    didn't even stop to consider the possibility that what I wrote was
    true.
    
    Well, now that Dan has confirmed that the answers were indeed his ya's
    all must feel just a little bit foolish.
    
    My cross-examination was legitimate, and helped eliminate ADA-T's
    embarassing problem of not being able to track down a witness everytime
    he asks a question.
    
    I'm not surprising ADA-T has all of you sheep giving an affirming "Ba
    Ba!" everytime he makes another false and wholly outrageous accusation. 
    But I'd at least hope you'd recognize his blatant bribery attempt for
    what it is.  Namely, proof positive that he's trying to do a frame-job
    on my client.
    
    Grrrrrrr!
    
    
    - Dean_who's_madder_than_he_was_after_Terry_beat_him_last_year_and_
      he_had_his_pedal_to_the_medal_to_get_oughta_Virginia
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
 
110.727I never groveled in publicCNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestMon Feb 12 1990 19:006
    
    those are indeed his non-smily faces to me. He also if I may offer a 
    little more told me that the problem with my entries into his contest
    were a problem because they were honest.....
    
    mike
110.728Doesn't perjury mean *anything* in here???!!!!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeMon Feb 12 1990 19:045
    LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES!!!!  Your honor, I demand to cross-examine
    this witness NOW.
    
    
    - Dean
110.729;^)CNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestMon Feb 12 1990 19:089
    
    don't worry I will not run away when your turn to cross exam me
    comes......
    
    in fact my Hoya pride will enjoy it immensely.....
    
    ;^)
    
    mike
110.730RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO214 inches in 17 daysMon Feb 12 1990 19:105
    Hah, Chrisp, Perjury is your's and Dan's middle name.
    
    Wait til I testify, Chrissy baby.  
    
    JD
110.731the cookie is crumblingSAGE::ROSSForgive me.Mon Feb 12 1990 19:158
{picture Jimmy Swaggart, standing outside the court, tears pouring
 down his face}

BANG!  BANG! BANG!    Let me in!  WAAAH!  WAAAH!

I have SINNED against you!  I have perjured myself for my 
own personal pleasures.   <sob>  I have mentally undressed 
Johnny Most.  <wah>  Please, let me in so that I may speak.
110.733she wanted to go so bad... CNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestMon Feb 12 1990 19:2815
    
    this sad but true.........
    
    when he promised honesty and integrity in his contest so I assumed
    that pandering craving wouldn't be allowed. Hell, I could have
    carried on about how I beed Carolina blue but I said no I'll be
    trootful and talk about what it would mean to me.....
    
    and I was dashed painfully......
    
    my wife still yells at me everynight how I should have told him I
    went to the Deandome on visit to Carolina and force her to sleep
    with me there so I could feel the vibes from Dean and the boys...
    
    mike 
110.734Dean knows hardshipSAGE::ROSSForgive me.Mon Feb 12 1990 19:336
>    my wife still yells at me everynight how I should have told him I
>    went to the Deandome on visit to Carolina and force her to sleep
>    with me there so I could feel the vibes from Dean and the boys...
    
	You probably wouldn't want to do that, Mike.  Even though you
	have all that talent, you would probably make a premature exit.
110.735she wanted me to lie but I couldn't...CNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestMon Feb 12 1990 19:365
    
    You and I know that Doug, but Chris would have reveled in like JD's
    songathong thingy......
    
    hoyas!!!!!!!!!!
110.736not this time Yer honor.....;^)TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Mon Feb 12 1990 19:3822
    Ahem....AHEM......
    
    Excuse me.
    
    Oh your honor...
    
    Oh No sir!  I don't need to tinkle or poop.  I did those before
    I got here.
    
    But you see, we jurors have been sitting here, listening to all
    this evidence, most lastly being given by a Mr. Childs.
    
    Well, sir, what I ask is...
    
    
    
    
    Could you give Mr. Childs a Kleenex and have him wipe that booger
    off his nose?  
    
    
    
110.737LarryDam why didn't someone tell me sooner...CNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestMon Feb 12 1990 19:411
    
110.738ACC, I will not relent....CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Mon Feb 12 1990 19:4331
He that calleth me forward shall feel my Wrath!

I have been called forward to repent of my ways by the Devil.

I say now that there is no error in my ways.  I, the Chainsaw,
am of true and real integrity.

Like Peter, who betrayed Christ before the cock crowed three times,
I engaged in Craven Pandering.  I gave into temptation for material
things, not quite as bad a Judas, but still gave in.

But now I stand before you all a man who has found again, the honesty,
integrity, and loyal-T that has made me what I am.

I stand before you as one who has passed a great catharsis.  I am the
Mouthpiece of God before this earthly Court.  I am the conduit of the
OCB and their as yet unrevealed revalations about ACC Chris, the 
False Prophet Wapner, and Dean Smif'.  I have dueled with the Devil,
been held in his power while hideous and heinous tortures were
worked upon me, to try and get me to denounce Mr T, the Prosecution,
and the path of Righteousness in this trial.

Nay, I will not yield.

I entered into the contest in good faith, with a little craven pandering.
I was duped by ACC Chris, and his Cabal of Crooked Cronies (tm).  I
have fought back with Truth, Light and strength...

I have spoken.  I submit to the entire court that this contest was fixed,
and that when the Truth is known that the walls of corruption and deceit
will come tumbling down.....
110.739C'mon Mike, did ya have to use a finger?TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Mon Feb 12 1990 19:531
    
110.740Oh No Caught Walton-nizing againCNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestMon Feb 12 1990 19:541
    
110.742CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Mon Feb 12 1990 19:5730
And as the sun sinks low in the sky over OURGNG County, the Chainsaw,
incensed over the personal affront to his integrity, leaves the courthouse
and begins the long walk back to the outter reaches of the county; the
little farm cleared out of the harsh land surrounding it, to Kelly, to
his livestock, and to The Wolf.

As he passes Mr T's Mercedes, he notices a figure, clad in robes, holding
a lantern, leaning against the driver's side, waiting.  The Chainsaw nods
a greeting.  The Greek philosopher, in a gesture full of the wisdom of
the ages, nods back.

Meanwhile, in the quaint little drinking establishment nearby the 
Courthouse, Cliff is explaining to Norm how psychic energy coupled with
cross-polination by extraterrestrials can create those wonderful potatoes.
Woody wonders if Bob Knight, the Hoosiers Hoosier, will show up for 
the trail.

Across town, in the seedy backalley bar, the grubby barkeep taps
a keg, wipes some grimy, filmy glasses, and waits for the cabal to
come in.

Meanwhile, at the Capitol, Vinnie Terranova, OCB agent, patiently
builds his case.

The air is pregnant with anticipation.  Soon, thinks the Chainsaw,
soon.

Justice is blind.  Retribution is savage.  Truth is forever.

So ends another day in OURGNG County...
110.743at least get a dirty sock......SASE::SZABOOURGNG District Mad Whacker BailiffMon Feb 12 1990 20:025
    > The air is pregnant with anticipation.
    
    Gotta stop prostrating yourself, Chain.....  :-)
    
    Ha'wk
110.744see ya tomorrow GO HOYAS!!!!!!!!CNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestMon Feb 12 1990 20:0212
    
    As I understood the message it was a. either get the tickets or
    b. become a craven pander like the rest if I wanted a chance
    at the tickets.
    
    Your honor I request a recess for the rest of the day. The kids have
    been awful at home and my wife just called and to say nothing ever
    goes right in her life if only she had gotten to see the Celtics
    things would be ok but their not. It's all my fault and I must come
    home to take a beating to spare the children...  ;^)
    
    mike
110.745CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Mon Feb 12 1990 20:0512
Suddenly, from the back row of the court, a man, hand jammed deep into
the waistband of his pants, jumps up....

"Mike, Mike, say it ain't so!  Tell me your wife isn't going to beat
you!  And I thought I had it bad with Peg, and Kelly, and Bud....

At least come and have a beer with me before you go home!"


Al Bundy looks expectantly at Mike, waiting for a reply...

The air is pregnant with anticipation.
110.746Still presiding, but at end of his rope over absurd caseHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeMon Feb 12 1990 20:1928
    "Jurist Farley, the Bailiff was obviously too late with the tissue.
    
    >Your honor I request a recess for the rest of the day. The kids have
    >been awful at home and my wife just called and to say nothing ever
    >goes right in her life
    
    "Witness Childs, this does not surprise me.  We have been presented
    with highly questionable evidence, completely at the instigation of the
    ADA, whose own shabby conduct is being examined by the OURGNG Bar
    Association.  We have heard hearsay presented as if it were evidence,
    and inadmissable ELECTRONIC MAIL documents presented by the ADA in
    completely leading questions.  This should not be, not in a court of
    law.  Bearing all this in your mind, Mr. Childs, I am not surprised
    that it is causing you much grief, both here in court, where your
    bodily functions conspire to deceive you and at home where your family
    is also tainted.
    
    "Go in good health and comfort your family.  Tomorrow return and speak
    your own mind instead of that of another.
    
    "The jury is instructed to consider Witness Child's testimony in its
    context as mere confirmations of ADA-T's theatrics and illegal
    presentations of evidence."
    
    "Court adjourned.  Bailiff, hustle Ms. Bundy back to her home so Mr.
    Way doesn't suspect anything."
    
    Judge Wapner
110.747didn't Wapner get axed???LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Mon Feb 12 1990 20:270
110.750LACV01::PETRIEfoulweather fanMon Feb 12 1990 21:4038
    <meanwhile, in a cold, dark garret not far away, a shivering woman
    dressed for tropical weather hunches over the bare lightbulb that
    is the room's only illumination.  A dog-eared transcript of the
    day's proceedings lies on the table before her.  Remnants of Cuban
    fastfood litter the floor.>
    
    "How could they *fall* for it?  Schneider lied.  He LIED!  He
    never even _looked_ at JR Reid after the introductions, he was so
    fascinated with Jimmy Rodgers' bald spot.
    
    "Look at this stuff (sob*):
    
>>Dan:	I'll have it known that Doug and I cheered aggressively throughout 
>>	the game for J.R. Reid, .  I especially noted his nice soft shot, 
>>	his good movement and his court awareness.  JR also surprised me 
>>	with some nice dribbling, but I shouldn't have been too surprised, 
>>	considering his Dean background, where potential has a habit of 
>>	becoming exceptionally well-rounded NBA talent.
    
    "It sounds like he memorized the *Globe*'s review!!  He never said
    any of _that_ in the press box when he was trying to sweep me off my
    feet..."
    

>>   ...and even the redoubtable Ms. Petrie will testify as to 
>>	where my allegiances lay:
    
    "(choke*) SURE!  with the New Jersey NETS!!!!!
                              ^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^
    
    "Oh, it's a good thing I only drank flat gingerale that night -
    God *knows* what those two would be trying to put over on that
    poor hapless ACC_Chris without me.  Chris, please please please
    listen to me and save yourself before it's too late.  Please
    believe me (sob*) - I have a sister who graduated from UNC-CH!! 
    WHY would I lie to you?"
    
    <fade into heartbroken sobs...>
110.751SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Tue Feb 13 1990 01:114
    >didn't Wapner get axed?
       He's still hangin' around, but nobody's paying any attention
    to him.
                                           Denny
110.752Someone be bailiff nexted time.......SASE::SZABOOURGNG District Mad Whacker BailiffTue Feb 13 1990 11:5110
    Plea from the bailiff.....
    
    Puh-leaze, let's get this over with!  The oysters ain't doing a damn
    bit 'o good.  My filberts have shriveled up like a raisin and my
    pee-pee feels like it's been whacked for 2 decades straight!  I cain't
    take Ms. Bundy any more.  I mean, look what she's done to the ball on
    my trailer hitch even!  And where's my Great Dane, Dukie?  Damn woman
    cain't stop!  We gotta end this thang now!
    
    B.
110.753CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 12:0426
As the sun rises over OURGNG County, even the cock is getting tired
of crowing.

Outside of Mr T's quiet, but elegant suburban home, the Greek Philosopher
pauses at the end of the walk.  He catches his breath before walking the
final 50 feet of his quest up to the door.

Meanwhile, the Chainsaw, block and tackle nearby, sweating and panting,
watches a mother cow nurture the newborn calf he just delivered, while
he washes up in the cold morning air of the pasture.  Even amongst the
corruption and evil that invade parts of OURGNG County, little miracles
can still happen.

Bailiff Szabo, shriveled filberts and all, wakes up, and rises with the
utter weight of his awesome responsibility.  He dresses, contemplates
trying steroids for his condition, and gets ready to go to court.

Defrocked Judge Wapner, proclaimed False Prophet by the Lord God, carefully
adjusts his toupee to cover the "666" birthmark smack dab in the middle
of his bald pate...

Mike Childs, star witness in the SPORTSgate case, wakes up all bruised,
after another evening of beatings by his wife.  How long, he wonders,
before the National Enquirer papparazi are snapping *his* photo...

The tension mounts....
110.754The forces of evil are trying to slander my testimonyFRSBEE::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSTue Feb 13 1990 13:034
    I'd like to ask for Apostrophe Police protection under teh Noter
    Protection Plan  ....
    
    DrM
110.756 RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Tue Feb 13 1990 13:131
    
110.757That should be 'Saw, not /Saw!CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 13:2123
I think we might have missed the boat here....

In going over some of these 4 kazillion replies, it came back to
me that ACC Chris played the thing off like a "Road to the Final Four".

He neglected to provide scoresheets on any of the entries but the 
final 4 (oh, and T and JD's runoff for T-shirt [JD-shirt??]).

I would sincerely like to see the score sheets for all of the 16 finalists.
As I have previously stated, I know that my paltry entry was not
good enough to win.  It failed miserably, but considering I threw my
high standards aside for a little quick fun, that's okay.  However,
with some truly excellent replies in the "Sweet 16", I would like to
see how ACC Crisp's scoresheets compared all of them.  But, I'm willing
to bet the farm and the fatted calf that there were NO scoresheets...

Even pushing all allegations of collusion and cabalism aside for a 
moment, (hard tho it is for me to do), one must surely question 
ACC Chris' taste and judgement.  How Onan Dan could be considered
original when he churned out the same tired drivel is beyond me...

Just some grist for the mill....
/Saw
110.759RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Tue Feb 13 1990 13:3916
    (The courtroom is abuzz.  JD aka Sarge, will now give his testimony.
    From the back of the courtroom, he calmly unfolds, dressed in a
    body hugging 3-piece suit, hair neatly trimmed, lats rippling,
    seemingly ready to burst forth from the suit, he stops, and bends
    down to kiss the purple-haired, black leather mini-skirted,
    bustier-wearing beauty next to him "be back in a few, babe", he
    says to her.  He strides down towards the witness stand, leg muscles
    pulsating)
    
    Bailif Szabo:
    Doyousweartotellthewholetroff,nothingbutthetroof,sohelpyouGod(tm)?
    
    JD:  I do.  I'm ready Mr. Prosecutor.
    
    
    
110.760CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 13:5118
IN the back row:

	Kelly:  Beth, isn't JD just the most rad dude you know?

	Beth:	Yeah, he and the 'Saw are a couple of swashbucklers
		aren't they?

	Kelly:	Yeah.  Boy they can really put back those Rainier Drys
		can't they?

	Beth:	You know it honey.  But it was the worst the night
		that the 'Saw got him drinking Jack Daniels.  He just
		totally wore me out that night.

	Kelly:	We gotta get you a stunt-double, girl....



110.762RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Tue Feb 13 1990 13:573
    Yes, I was.  I was aware from the beginning of Mr.Nore's campaign
    to discredit the contest he himself set up.  His shenanigans have
    continued into this trial.
110.764CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 14:0212
In the back row:

	
	Beth:  Kelly, I don't think I can stand it!  He is SOOO sexy
	       up there in his suit.  Gawd I want him.

	Kelly: Easy Beth, not here.  First, you don't want to wear him
	       out.  Second, he's got to finish testifying.  Third, 
	       even though they threw him out, you don't want to get
	       that judge aroused.  Babs told me he's a real sicko!

	Beth:  I can't wait till I get him home!
110.765Who is that masked man?MOSAIC::MCCARRONVine St. Bar &amp; GrillTue Feb 13 1990 14:0421

Squeeeeek.  The doors to the courtroom slowly open.  A stranger to these
parts enters and takes a seat in the back.  All eyes in the room turn
to this man with no name.  Whispers permeate the air before eventually
dying down.  The trial continues.

During a lull in the lull in the action, this stranger walks up to the
rail and announces:

    
  "Your honors (take your pick), after watching this trial drag on,
   I feel it is my duty as a God-fearing American to come forward 
   and help justice take it's true course.  I therefore ask the 
   court's permission to take the stand and spill my guts.  For I,
   Bruce McCarron, your honors, am the man one Mr. Douglass C. Ross 
   was going to take to the Celtics game should he have won.  That is, 
   before the fix was in."

With that, the dark haired stranger returns to his anonymous seat in the
the back of the courtroom.
110.766SAGE::ROSSForgive me.Tue Feb 13 1990 14:081
Uh oh.
110.767CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 14:0812
In the back row:

	Kelly:	Say, isn't that guy who just came in the same guy
		who's been carrying around the latern all over
		town???

	Beth:	I don't know, I can't see him too well....

	Kelly:	Get Traci to go sit next to him.  We'll find out
		if he's on the up and up....


110.768Will be available for cross and recallCNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestTue Feb 13 1990 14:1012
    
    just to slip in here yes that message is a matter of public record
    which shows that he did indeed have contact with me about the possible
    bribe.
    
    Before I though of Chris as a little Warp in the head because of his
    worship of Dean and the Starheels but honest and good objective
    anylaist of college basketball....
    
    Now, Jim Vaulvano comes to mind when I think of Chris....
    
    mike
110.769RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Tue Feb 13 1990 14:1342
    First, if I may, I'd like to start with the contest itself.  When
    it first started, I thought, "this should be fun", just what OURGNG
    needed. They'll be good-natured ribbing, and a real prize, to boot.
    
    I noticed as the contest went on, that ACCrisssss seemed to be growing
    weary of his contest, especially after Onan's entry.  The fack(tm)
    that Chris let Onan enter a second entry, with nary a warning, made
    me realize that something was, as they say, rotten in North Carolina.
    Chris posted his 'scorecard', the one you showed earlier in the
    trial, with the little note to Mike Childs.  It didn't take a trolley
    driver to figure out what was happening.
    
    As you may remember, the contest was scheduled to end on Friday,
    Jan. 26th.  Before that date, however, Doug Ross started chiming
    in that the contest should end early, since all the entries were
    in.  It was obvious Doug wanted it to end, since he had already
    started to strike his deal.
    
    Now remember, folks, it was I who pointed out what  the rules were,
    and after some forceful arguing, ACCrisp decided to go along with
    his rules.  He was willing to break them then, since he already
    knew who would win.
    
    At that time, MrT, Myself, Metz, and I believe Steven_Gaulke all
    entered fine entries.  I don't think I need to remind the court
    the positive feedback Mr. Kdoor had when reading my entry.  He was
    simply giddy.  However, he  realized that unless my entry was
    discredited, he'd never be able to award the contest to Onan.
    
    It was then that MrT started in on ACCyst, saying how my entry was
    actually making fun of Chris, Deano, and the Tarheels.  Chris, who
    loathes MrT, agreed, seeing it as a way to still award his 'prize'
    to Dan.
    
    Mr Knockwursty then started sending me mail about how I couldn't
     win, how I was really making fun of him, and how I couldn'tcompete
    due to geographically considerations.
    
    Needless to say, I was crushed.  I need a few moments to compose
    myself, before continuinggggg
    
    
110.770CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 14:1611
IN the back row:


	Beth:  He needs me Kelly, he's really hurting.

	Kelly:	Shhh, stay here.  He's gonna be fine.  T won't
		let anything happen to him....

	Beth: 	B-b-but...

	Kelly:	Shhh....
110.771SAGE::ROSSForgive me.Tue Feb 13 1990 14:2016
>    As you may remember, the contest was scheduled to end on Friday,
>    Jan. 26th.  Before that date, however, Doug Ross started chiming
>    in that the contest should end early, since all the entries were
>    in.  It was obvious Doug wanted it to end, since he had already
>    started to strike his deal.

	Untrue.  UNTRUE.    I asked that it end early because there
	had been no new entries in several days and because I thought
	I had a good shot at winning based on some of the responses my
	entry got.   

I never struck a deal or offered a deal.... as I said before, in response to
the who would I take question, I replied "Bruce McCarron" and maybe Dan if 
Bruce couldn't make it.   No deal was ever offered, no deal was ever made.

Excuse the interruption, your Honor.
110.772CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 14:248
From the back of the courtroom, a man clad in robes, and holding
a lantern jumps up....


	PERJUROR, PERJUROR!

The voice reverberates through the courtroom, resounding as if it
were the Voice of God.....
110.773SASE::SZABOOURGNG District Mad Whacker BailiffTue Feb 13 1990 14:422
    Will you guys hurry the hell up!  I wanna go home and soak my friggin'
    achin' filberts!
110.774CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 14:466
From the back row (to the Bailiff):


	Traci:	Oh Hawk, er I mean, Bailiff Szabo....  Hon, steroids
		are not the answer.... I'll go home with you to help
		you take care of your, er, "problem"....
110.775exMOSAIC::MCCARRONVine St. Bar &amp; GrillTue Feb 13 1990 14:5039
From the back of the courtroom, the stranger rises.

"Your honor I can wait no longer.  The truth must come out."

With that, he stands on his chair and begins his story.

"I've known Doug for oh, eight years or so (even before he hated James
Worhty), so when I saw that witty, yet obviously fawning entry, I was
more than a little dissapointed.  That is, until he offered to take me
if he won.  Then he became a genius."

"As the contest wore on, Doug's chances looked better and better.  I mean,
I've been to wakes that were funnier than Dan's entry."

"About a week before the contest ended he sent me some disturbing mail.
He said ACC Chris had just sent him mail asking Doug if he knew /Don.
Doug told me that he thought Chris was looking for 2 winners, that I
might be in trouble."

"Fade to that fateful Friday afternoon.  As the contest winds down, Doug
sends me more mail stating that Knorr keeps asking him who he plans to
take should he win.  Loyal, though bootlicking friend that he is, he
still said me.  With that, he lost the contest."

"Now, how he ended up going, I don't know. And I really don't want to.
He's already dropped a notch in my eyes, I don't want to see him fall
any further into the abyss that is ACC hoops."

"All I can add is that in trying to squirm out of implicating Mr. Knorr,
Doug just dug a deeper hole for himself.  Which he's about to fall into.
For he, as the disgruntled loser, was the one who tipped off Mr. Prosecu(T)or 
of the vile behind the scenes goings on that have brought us to today."

"Doug, Doug, Doug.....How the mighty have fallen."


With that, Mr. McCarron dismounts his soapbox. As he leaves the courtroom
for he appointed lunch date with one Connie Selleca, he can be heard 
muttering under his breath, "Thank God for Reggie Lewis".
110.776RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Tue Feb 13 1990 14:534
    I'm ready to continue
    
    
    Sarge
110.777CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 14:5412
In the back row:

	Traci: 	(returning to Kelly and Beth)
                That turd didn't want to go to lunch with me.
		I mean, *me*, Traci Lords!  He wanted to go with
		Connie Sellica of all people!

	Kelly:	Don't sweat it hon.  He couldn't have known that
		dessert would have been sweeter with you....

	Beth:	I hope JD's okay!
		
110.778You're killing me ! :-)LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSTue Feb 13 1990 15:011
    STOP IT FRANK ! HAHAHAHAHAAAAA
110.779CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 15:1133
From:	HELL::LUCIFER        9-FEB-9999 00:47:29.13
To:	CAM::WAY
CC:	
Subj:	I am not pleased

Chainsaw!  Chainsaw!

Bow down to me you speck of vermin feces!

So, you think you are winning this little squirmish, do you?

Well, you goat scrotum, I am here to tell you, and your beloved
god, that I am the all powerful one here.  Do you think that I
will let you, or that pimp of a prosecutor dressed in that
phony italian suit make a fool out of me and the Cabal of Crooked
Cronies(tm)?????

Not for one second.  Not for one second.  

Didn't I manage to infiltrate my people in to the judiciary?

Are you sure that Bailiff Szabo is really who he says he is, and that
he is not one of my demons?  Are you sure that the man isn't
disgorging pea soup at an atrocious rate during the off hours???

Don't be on it Chainsaw...you, your little pretty, your Greek
Philosopher, and all *your* cronies will be bowing down to me
before you know it...when the Cabal wins your days will be numbered...

You'll dance in Hell Chainsaw!!!!

I have spoken....
110.780LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSTue Feb 13 1990 15:153
    Yo Francis (what a manly name),
    
    When is Ole Lucy(ifer) going to get a new Subj. ?
110.781CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 15:2315
Francis is a manly name. It mean "freedom", and we all know freedom
is something that is hard fought and won...

Lucifer/Ahriman/Satan/Beelzebub has his hands full trying to forge
logical links into CAM from a total virtual node.  God, while possessing
a VAX 9000 (sans NOTES unfortunately) doesn't have quite the same
problem, since he can make a mail link to me.

Lucifer must forge a real tough logical link in from no node whatsoever.
With all that energy expended, it's too tough to change the subject.
Besides, he's never pleased with anything....

Just goes to show you DEC Sales will sell to God but not to Satan...

'Saw
110.782And the TRUTH shall set ACC Chris free ...RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 13 1990 15:2330
Dean:	Your honor, defense calls Mr.Mike Childs to the stand for cross-
	examination.

(The lowly scum-bucket Mike Childs approaches, afraid to even look into
 the discusted eyes of ACC Chris.  Oh, this Childs guy is a sleaze-ball
 all right.  His aze to grind is bigger than Paul Bunyon's, and not a
 single strand of moral fiber can be found in his being.

 Childs slinks into the witness stand after repeating his previous lies
 about telling the Truth and slumps down in the chair, jellyfish-style.)


Dean:	"Mr. Childs, let me first remind you that you are under oath.  
	This little fact probably won't deter you from spewing forth
	more horid lies, but perhaps there's a tiny self-preservation 
	voice inside you that might point out the fact that you could 
	be convicted of perjury (in addition to other charges defense 
	may bring against you) and sentenced to a 60 day ban from the 
	Big East note, a span that will cover the NCAA tournament."

Dean:	"My first question is a simple one Mike.  Did you initiate contact
	with ACC Chris and blatantly offer him a bribe in exchange for
	being declared the winner in the Contest?  A simple "YES" or
	"NO" will suffice.  You're not on trial here, so don't feel
	obligated to try and play our heartstrings about your poor wife
	and all.  DID YOU OFFER ACC CHRIS A BRIBE, AND DID *YOU* MAKE
	FIRST CONTACT WITH THE DEFENDANT???!!!"


    - Dean
110.783CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 15:2514
In the back row:

	
	The Philospher:  The puppet of the devil speaketh....


A few seats over:

	Beth:  	I thought JD was on the stand.

	Kelly:	I think Dean's losing it.  Course he's learned a lot
		about losing this year....

	Traci:	Connie Sellica?????
110.784CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 15:4723
Meanwhile, in a nearby drinking establishment:


	Cliff:	Hey, Norm there, isn't that, uh, whats-her-name, uh,
		Connie Sellica over, uh, there?

	Norm:	Where?

	Cliff: 	At, uh, that table, there...

	Woody:	Connie Sellica?  Didn't she design that car for Toyota?
	
	Norm:	No, Woody, she's an actress.  She starred in that movie
		the other night about the airplane that almost fell	
		apart in Hawaii...

	Cliff:	Yep there, Norm, that's her...Better take my keys outta 
		my pocket...

	Norm:	You're right Cliff.  What's she doing in here...with
		*that* guy?

	Cliff:	Looks like there, uh, having, lunch there, Norm...
110.785T'd get it out of me anyways so I volunteer it now ;^)CNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestTue Feb 13 1990 16:427
    
    Yes Deano I did......
    
    which was laughed at but as the evidence clearly shows a counter-
    proposal was made by one ACC Chris....
    
    mike
110.786Dean shreds Childs testimony with only ONE queston. Impressive.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 13 1990 16:5140
    Dean:	"Ah, and here we have the nut, ladies and gentlemen.  For
    		while offering a bribe *is* illegal, considering one is
    		NOT!  Only when a bribe is *accepted* is it illegal.
    
    		Now you may all be thinking to yourselves "But ACC Chris
    		DID consider it, and that's awfully bad.".  Well, yes, if 
    		he really did consider accepting this bribe it would be
    		naughty.  Not a crime, since obviously Mr.Childs didn't
    		win the Contest and thus the bribe wasn't accepted, but
    		naughty none-the-less.
    
    		However ladies and gentlemen of the jury, it should be 
    		OBVIOUS to one and all that ACC Chris was just joking
    		around with this whole thing.  The fact that he even
    		posted a reference to the possible bribe acceptance in
    		this conference is testimony to that!  If he were really
    		gonna accept this bribe and crown Mike Childs paltry entry
    		(it's incomprehensible how *THIS* could've been carried
    		out.  That entry was *SAD*.) he certainly would've have 
    		made a joke about it in a public forum!!!
    
    		Folks, my client did consider the bribe....  As a joke!
    		Nothing more.  I strongly suspect the actual bribe offer
    		by Mike was real.  In either case, it's impossible to
    		prove what someone was thinking, so we must look at what 
    		the Law says.
    		
    		It says offering a bribe is illegal.  It says accepting
    		a bribe is illegal.  It says NOTHING about *considering*
    		a bribe!!
    
    		Mr. Childs, you may step down.  No further questions your
    		honor.
    
    
    - Dean
    		
    
    
    
110.787CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 16:5413
No sweat Mike...

We know that ACC Chris, Onan Dan, and the Cabal of Crooked Cronies
are grasping at straws...

Like drowning men, reaching out to whatever flotsam is nearby in the
mad, desperate hope of staying their despicable demise, the Cabal
is now trying to shift the focus of blam(tm) to others.

That the offer was made was not an issue.  That the offer was contemplated,
and that other, more heinous plans were laid, is....


110.788CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 16:5620
 >    		Folks, my client did consider the bribe....  As a joke!
 >   		Nothing more.  I strongly suspect the actual bribe offer
 >   		by Mike was real.  In either case, it's impossible to
 >   		prove what someone was thinking, so we must look at what 
 >   		the Law says.
 >   		
 >   		It says offering a bribe is illegal.  It says accepting
 >   		a bribe is illegal.  It says NOTHING about *considering*
 >   		a bribe!!
 >   


Dean Smith Tap Dances in Court.....film @ 11    
    
 
    		
    
    
    

110.789conspiracy to consider a bribe!AUNTB::HAASDie, laugh I thought I'dTue Feb 13 1990 16:580
110.790CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 17:0517
From the back row, the Philosopher rises:

	
	A man of True Integrity, when faced with the offer of
	a bribe, whether considered or not, with the true
	intention of *not* accepting further bribes, would
	have announced in the topic that a bribe was offered.

	A man of True Integrity would have asserted to the
	other contestants that no further bribes should be
	offered.

	In the desert, Christ said "Get thee behind me Satan!"

	In the contest, Chris said "What else does someone have
	for me?"

110.792CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 17:0812
In the outer reaches of OURGNG County, on Chainsaw's farm, under his
tree on a hill, The Wolf suddenly perks up his ears.

He stretches his lanky frame as he stands an sniffs the wind....

Suddenly, without warning, years of instinct and evolution behind the
act, he throws back his head and howls, nose pointing skyward.


Far off in the distance, a howl answers....

The Wolfpack is gathering...
110.793Childs testimony completely negated by brilliant Dean work.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 13 1990 17:3347
    Dean:	"Judge, I order Mr. Childs additional testimony STRICKEN 
    		from this trial!!
    
    		In the first place, I had no more questions for him, so
    		he had no right to spout off at the mouth with his useless
    		and totally unrevealing comments.  And in the second,
    		reprinting mail messages in notes is STRICTLY against
    		Digital Policy, and my client most certainly did not
    		give permission.  So, even if Mike's testimony were
    		allowed, that mail message clearly isn't.
    
    (Insert Dean turning to face the jury with a grave look on his face.)
    
    Dean:	"Good members of the jury, I urge you, I beg you, I plead
    		with you, I *DEMAND* that you think seriously about the
    		testimony presented by Mr. Childs.  
    
    		It's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Childs
    		initiated the bribe.  There's no question about this fact.
    		Now he's in here scolding and condemning my client for
    		a charge far less serious than his own!  This is like
    		a guy in the middle of an Armed Robbery holdup placing some
    		poor old lady under citizens arrest for jay-walking!
    
    		Did my client consider the bribe?  We'll never know for
    		sure, will we?  He says it was a joke, and I believe him.
    		In either case, he committed no crime.  Did Mike
    		Childs offer a bribe?  Without question.  Was the
    		bribe accepted??  No.  It was not.
    
    		Finally, Mike's unauthorized testimony about the possibility 
    		of how the Contest *MIGHT* have been rigged to get him 
    		the "W" is 100% conjecture.  Completely factless and 
    		essentially barren of significance.  
    
    		Thank you, fine people.
    
    
    - Dean
    
    
    		
    
    		
    
    		
    		
110.794LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Tue Feb 13 1990 17:457
>    		reprinting mail messages in notes is STRICTLY against
>    		Digital Policy...
    		
    	Yeah, but this is a trial.  We're BEYOND stoopid policies, didn't
    you know that???  This is the highest court of law!!!
    
    sean
110.795CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 17:5218
Besides, since the Lord God declared the False Prophet Antichrist
Wapner invalid, he isn't empowered to rule on this any more.


Dean is starting to tap dance harder as the Truth is starting to 
come out.  

Has anyone noticed the shyster's method of not refuting evidence which
is clearly damaging to his case, but questioning its grounds for admission,
being utilized here by Dean?  Because Dean can't refute what has happened.
He can't undo the wrongs that were perpatrated on the innocent noters
of OURGNG County by ACC Chris, Onan Dan and his cronies...

Dean Smif' is beginning to appear very much like Phil Rizzuto...
(Sigh) Another once proud figure of the sporting world reduced to being
yet another Craven Panderer.......

Chainsaw
110.796DWOVAX::EROSNot much fun in Stalingrad, no...Tue Feb 13 1990 18:0142
    Meanwhile, in a nearby drinking establishment:
    
        Norm:  You know, Cliffy, that bonehead coach has a point...
    
        Sam:   Hey, watch who you're calling "bonehead" - Coach
               was a great guy!
    
        Norm:  No Sammy, I meant that bonehead _basketball_ coach.
    
        Sam:   That's better.
    
        Norm:  Anyway Cliffy, he may have a point there.  Digital
               policy _does_ prohibit posting mail without the
               permission of the sender.
    
        Cliff: That, uh, may be true there, Norm, but it's getting
               kind of hard to, uh, wade through the policy violations
               in this, uh, trial.  Like, for instance, Digital policy
               prohibits, uh, participation in VAXnotes conferences by
               uh, non-employees.  So, uh, what's Dean Smith doing
               here at all?  Ipso facto, an, uh, unauthorized, uh, 
               habeas corpus!
    
        Carla: Hey, Cliff!  Why don't you get your corpus off that stool
               and deliver some of that mail before the rates go up again?
    
        <Cliff exits sullenly>
    
        Fraser:Well, since this is all subject to a "willing suspension
               of disbelief" anyway, with this courtroom setting and all,
               it's safe to presume that the mail in question was obtained
               under subpoena and is therefore, admissable.  I just wish
               that this "suspension of disbelief" extended to my receiving
               payment for my role in this hitherto unbroadcast episode of
               "Cheers"...
    
        Carla: Why the hell should we believe you?  You're not a lawyer;
               hell, you're not even much of a doctor.  Oh wait, I know,
               you've probably gotten a lot of legal experience from being
               sued by your patients...
    
        Fraser:Thank you for that vote of confidence, Carla.
110.7971Way continues to prejudice the jury. What a sham.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 13 1990 18:1246
    Yo, 1Way, keep yer prejudicial comments to yourself.  I've only
    cross-examined two witnesses so far, let alone present my defense. 
    During my little cross-examination I've discovered a few little tidbits
    along the way.  For example,
    
    o ADA-T bribed a prosective witness. (A bribe is ILLEGAL.  
      I've yet to see any evidence that I accepted *any* bribe.  (And there
      won't be any, cause I didn't.)
    
    o The "star" witness for the prosecution confessing that he too 
      committed a felony - namely offering a bribe to the defendant!
      A bribe which was NOT accepted, BTW, else Mr. Childs would've
      been in Press Row at the Gahden.  All of this forces me to think
      that maybe we've got the wrong guy on trial here.  And don't worry,
      there are more bribery charges that were made to me that will soon
      see the light of day.  Worried, ADA-T???  You should be.
    
    o The contest winner has clearly established the timing of the
      interchange between himself, Doug, and myself on the fateful day
      of January 26, and everything has been proven to be cleanly above-board.  
    
    o The contest winner has once again eloquently described his passion
      for UNC basketball and therefore confirmed that he was a
      deserving winner.  Indeed, the only man among this motley mess of
      meatheads who could've even closely emulated myself, which was the 
      true aim of this whole darn thing.
    
    No, I think I'm doing as well as possible in the trial, (thanks to
    Dean's brilliance) no matter how much your highly biased
    commentary may indicate.  Face it 1Way, you're a scorned Contest loser
    with a Size XXXXL axe of your own to wield.  I'm not anticipating 
    winning this trial.  Never have.  The deck is clearly stacked against
    me.
    
    All I can do is present the Truth and let my peers determine my fate.  
    As to the posting of the Sweet 16 scores, I have no objection to doing 
    this.  As a matter of fact somewhere in 110 I offered to do exactly 
    that, but no one seemed to enthused about the idea.  I can't imagine 
    what this highly subjective data could hope to prove, but if ADA-T 
    requests it, I shall provide it.
    
    Huff, huff, puff.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.798Just a humble offer..DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceTue Feb 13 1990 18:1414
	Judge available here, for no charge.

	Qualifications: Have met only 2 witnesses, Mssrs. Childs and
Devlin, and them  almost 2 years ago. Also one of the moderators of this
conference.

	Just an offer...


	Oh, by the way, Mr. Philosopher - I believe the bailiff ordered
a BUD LIGHT! Get that lantern out of here, it's a fire hazard.

Jim M_The_Noter_who_would_be_judge
110.799Take from a man who knows True IntegrityHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayTue Feb 13 1990 18:2220
>From the back row, the Philosopher rises
	
	>A man of True Integrity, when faced with the offer of
	>a bribe, whether considered or not, with the true
	>intention of *not* accepting further bribes, would
	>have announced in the topic that a bribe was offered.

	>A man of True Integrity would have asserted to the
	>other contestants that no further bribes should be
	>offered.

Where was this Phony-losipher when MrT was offering me a bribe
in exchange for some fabricated testimony???  Baa-ing like the
sheepish lemming he is, I presume.

As the righteous contest winner, all I know is that I never offered 
anything to win the contest, all I gave was the best entry, and all
I received were the winning tickets.  Thank you.

Dan
110.800CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 18:2748
110.801Still in total controlHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeTue Feb 13 1990 18:2914
    >Besides, since the Lord God declared the False Prophet Antichrist
    >Wapner invalid, he isn't empowered to rule on this any more.
    
    "This court does not recognize any false deities, nor the cheap
    theatrics required to reproduce such a blatant violation of all
    decency.  What does a god need with a court of law?  Bailiff!  Whack
    this charleton's peepee!!  And be quick about it.  We have killers
    waiting.
    
    "The jury is instructed to ignore the unauthorized testimony of Mr.
    Childs which includes any fraudulant mail messages.  This includes
    those extractions badgered forth from ADA-T."
    
    Judge Wapner
110.802If it was rigged, it was rigged for truth,justice, and American waySAGE::ROSSCharlotte bound?Tue Feb 13 1990 18:3223
>I received were the winning tickets.  Thank you.
>
>Dan

Oh, no, thank YOU, Dan!    It was so much fun to spend an evening with
another rabid Hornet fan like myself {no matter what that Miami Tweet
fan might claim}.  Remember when we discussed the great draft selection
of Brian Rowsom?  Wasn't it you who said that you could never appreciate
Jerry Sichting's talents until he became a Hornet?   I saw you try to get
Stuart Gray's autograph {being a longtime fan of his} and having to settle
for mopping up a droplet of his sweat with your handkerchief.  

Come on, Dan, let's do the Hornet cheer... the same one we did during
the National Anthem:

	Buzz, buzz, buzz, 
	Rex's peach fuzz,
	Bee, Bee, Bee,
	Hornet's are for me,
	Sting, sting, sting,
	Muggsy and Sichting,
	Honey, honey, honey,
	Give J.R. more money!
110.803CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 18:3317
The Philsopher gently rises, sighs, and turns to the Moderator
who would be Judge...

With all due respect, Sir Moderator, can't you see that my 
lantern is not lit?  For there are so few honest men in this
court that the Lamp of True Integrity could not stay lit....

Turning to Onan Dan, the Philosopher stares hard at the 
hardened figure before him....

	A man of True Integrity answers not one allegation
	with another, but seeks the truth in all matters...
	The Chameleon Man, the man who changes his colors to
	his own benefit, is the man who will point the blame
	on another to shift the blame from himself....

Quietly, the Philospher sits....
110.804Wapner lynched... film @ 11LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Tue Feb 13 1990 18:3511
>NOTER	     NOTE  HUMOR  ORIG  SINC  +UNC  EMO  +JR  +DEAN  BONUS  TOTAL
>-----	     ----  -----  ----  ----  ----  ---  ---  -----  -----  -----
>SCHNEIDER     .94    5     5     9     9     8    2     4      4      46
 
    	Take a look again at the scores for Dan...  There's absolutely
    *NO WAY* you can convince anyone that note .94 gets a 5 for humor
    and a 5 for originality.  Those stats are obviously boosted,
    along with the total to achieve a score that *just* tops the second
    highest score.  How convenient... how obvious... how crooked...
    
    sean
110.805Turn on that lantern and see the truth, Frank.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 13 1990 18:4517
    Trouble is Frank, Originality was only one of many criteria used in
    the 64-Point Must System (tm) formula.  Dan's entry tested very low for
    Originality - I forget how low.  Yours was high.  JD's was high.  MrT's
    was high.  But this was NOT an Originiality contest.  It was a Pro-UNC
    contest.  And when summing it all up, Dan rated #1.  Doug Ross rated
    #2, missing the top spot by a single point.  The Bonus Points made 
    the difference, which may not be fair, but who said life was fair?  Of 
    course the fairness issue (or lack thereof) was made null and void 
    when Dan altruistically took Doug with him to the game.
    
    Now that you understand this, perhaps that man with the lantern could
    WHACK! you in the haid with it and knock a little sense into you. 
    There's still time for me to call you to the stand as a character
    witness!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.806HEURIS::METZGERI will not Instigate RevolutionTue Feb 13 1990 18:4811
and what did Dan do to earn those Bonus points that nobody else seemed to be
able to accrue even 1 of ?


:-)

wink,wink,knudge,knudge,,,know what I mean ?


Metz
110.807MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Tue Feb 13 1990 18:5213
    
    ZZZzzzzzzz   ZZZZZZZzzzzzz.....
    
    Huh? Wha? Where am...  Thirsites?  Did someone say Thirsites?
    Hey, I've had the thirsites all afternoon since those pretzels we
    bought for lunch from the corner vendor.  What say we all split
    down to one of them bars down the street and pound down a few ice
    cold ones.  First guy to buy me one gets himself a bona fide jury
    vote. Prosecution or defense, makes no difference to me, just make
    sure it isn't cheap beer.
    
    -Dick
    
110.808LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Tue Feb 13 1990 18:5412
    
    	The fack(tm) is, a 5 out of 10 for originality is *not* that
    low, it is in fact *average* as was the score for humor (5/10).
    I challenge you to find ONE shred of humor in that note that justifies
    giving it FIVE out of TEN points.  There's no way that note is even
    close to being 50% humorous.  What a sham!
    	In case you were wondering, this is an example of a low score:
    
    	1, 2 and *maybe* 3 out of 10.  However if you had implicated
    that system Dan obviously wouldn't have even made the final four.
    
    sean
110.809I've never failed to be my own man, unlike several others in hereHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayTue Feb 13 1990 19:118
	>A man of True Integrity answers not one allegation
	>with another, but seeks the truth in all matters...

A Phony-losipher such as yourself shouldn't speak for men of True
Integrity such as myself.  If you were at all interested in the truth,
you wouldn't be baaing every time MrT says "baa".

Dan, righteous contest winner
110.810Did Joe Montana have these backstabbers?HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayTue Feb 13 1990 19:1723
   > 	The fack(tm) is, a 5 out of 10 for originality is *not* that
   > low, it is in fact *average* as was the score for humor (5/10).
   > I challenge you to find ONE shred of humor in that note that justifies
   > giving it FIVE out of TEN points.

I won't have my good name besmirched.  I don't even need to look back
on my winning contest entry.  "Redbelly" and "Bobby Spite" are the absolute
funniest things among all the entries.  And how do you now that a 5 is average?
Have you totaled all scores and averaged them out to find out what the
true average is?  No, you haven't because you have seen only a few
of the scores.

That no one else submitted an entry such as mine, that no one else
was honestly describing the deeds they have actually performed, that
no one else had actually argued for the attitude that the contest was
rewarded, *without any reward at stake* for some time before the contest
was even held, all of these are original actions, which made up a highly
original winning entry.

If anyone has a beef it's me with Chris.  A 5 is a much too low total for
my originality score!

Dan
110.811CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 19:1818
Don't need no sense knocked into me...

Regardless of what Onan Dan says, by any stretch of the imagination,
you lost all credibility when you even remotely considered the bribe,
and didn't expose it right away.  As a contest judge you have to
be above reproach.  You can not let the slightest shred of doubt
be cast upon you.  There was enough "public" evidence of a bribe
in the file, that you cannot blame anyone for at least wondering
what was going on behind the scenes.

Personally, as I've stated, I never expected my entry to win.  I
had fun writing it, and that's what counts.  But stern allegations
have been made, and to which I haven't heard a satisfactory answer...

If you feel it will help your case, call me as a character witness.
I cannot in a million years imagine how that would help you....

Chainsaw
110.812DWOVAX::EROSNot much fun in Stalingrad, no...Tue Feb 13 1990 19:2030
    Meanwhile, in a nearby drinking establishment:
    
        <Cliff re-enters>
    
        Cliff: Neither, uh, rain nor snow nor gloom of night shall stay...
    
        Carla: this toasterhead from the completion of his appointed
               verbal diaper-scrapings.  Shut up, Cliff.
    
        Norm:  Hey Cliffy, something just occurred to me - I taped that
               Celtics game they're talking about and I just remembered
               something fishy about it...
    
        Woody: Oh, I _knew_ the horrible truth would come out eventually!
               I meant to tell that beer vendor he'd given me too much
               change, honest!  I just got overcome by greed in the heat
               of the moment.  You don't know what it's been like, living
               a lie like this.  At least it's all out in the open now...
    
        Norm:  Uh, Woody - that's not what I'm talking about; I just
               remembered that there was something strange about the
               folks in the pressbox.  I'll take a look again tonight,
               assuming Vera hasn't turned the tape into some sort of
               planter or something.
    
        Woody: Oh, well that's ok - I just remembered that it wasn't me
               who shortchanged the vendor anyway.  It was the guy next
               to me...
    
    
110.813The "5" was easily justifiable.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 13 1990 19:208
    Your point is well taken sean, but it's purty tough to prove in a court
    of law what someone does or does not find funny.  I thought Dan's note
    was clever and (occasionally) mildly humorous.  To be perfectly honest,
    I didn't really find any of the entries overwhelmingly funny.  Some were 
    very clever, but I didn't find any to be Jay Leno material.
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.814CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 19:2624
Onan Dan, try as you might, you cannot impugn my integrity.

Also, you keep tap dancing away from the point I'm making.  If 
the integrity was true, then at the slightest hint of a bribe,
the man of true integrity would announce to the contestants that
a bribe had been offered.  Had the contest judge been me, I would
have not announced the contestant's name who offered the bribe,
since expulsion from the contest would have been sufficient in
my book, and then I would have admonished the contestants not
to try that again, since it would not be tolerated.

Anything less and you bring doubt as to the integrity of the contest.

Just because I happen to have the same opinion as T in this matter,
doesn't mean I'm his lackey, or a sheep to be led around.  I have
my own mind, and quite clearly I've made a point above which you
are either too scared to attempt to deal with, or else you are far
to entwined in the web of corruption surrounding this contest.

Tooting your own horn about the supposed originality of your
otherwise recycled, regurgitated, onanesque drivel, doesn't deal
with the true nature of the point I'm making....

'Saw
110.815LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Tue Feb 13 1990 19:329
    
    	Chris, then could you post the complete list of scores for all
    entries so that I may be able to better calculate where Dan's entry
    falls in relation to others in the categories of humor and originality?
    I would have no problem declaring Dan as the winner if those two
    categories were stricken, but the fact is they make up more than
    31 percent of the total score and seem to be unimportant.
    
    sean
110.816The Phony-losipher unmaskedHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayTue Feb 13 1990 19:4834
> Dan, try as you might, you cannot impugn my integrity.

There's nothing there for me to impugn.  The stand you've taken
is one of a mob mentality.  My thoughts have that have been
heavily influenced by a passage from Mark Twain's An American
Abroad, which I now refer you to for some home-spun
philosophy (unlike your Phony-losopher).

>Also, you keep tap dancing away from the point I'm making.  If 
>the integrity was true, then at the slightest hint of a bribe,
>the man of true integrity would announce to the contestants that
>a bribe had been offered.

Tap-dancing?  I have nothing to do with this.  I didn't offer
this bribe, consider this bribe or accept or reject this bribe.
That issue has nothing to do with me.  I did address another 
bribe which you failed to address, as the mob that you're
in doesn't want to see "integrity" (hah!) in it's own, just in
the other.

>quite clearly I've made a point above which you
>are either too scared to attempt to deal with, or else you are far
>to entwined in the web of corruption surrounding this contest.

No, Frank, this point you make is quite misplaced.  Whether Mike
attempted to bribe Chris is something I don't know.  Whether
Chris considered it before ultimately rejecting it is something
I don't know.  That has nothing to do with me.

But if you're gonna complain about bribery, you can start 
looking a little closer to home.  Instead you ignored it, which
has been consistent.

Dan, corruption free contest winner
110.817Note p-name and add "Objective".RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 13 1990 19:4922
    No-can-do sean.  In a trial of this magnitude I can't just give away
    what could be perceived as damaging evidence.  If ADA-T wants it 
    I'll have no choice but supply the goods, assuming I haven't cleaned
    out my directory since 1/26.  (BTW - By damaging I mean the constant
    Monday-morning-quarterbacking that folks like yourself are bound to do
    upon my entirely subjective contest judging.)
    
    As to the comments of a certain 1Way, all I can say is ...
    
    
     WELL EXCUUUUUUSSSSSSSSEEEEEEE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Someday perhaps I'll approach your Holy Roller status.  As for me, I
    was just tryin' to have some fun.  I had no intention of awarding the
    Title to Childs, but thought I'd have a little fun with him.  I made
    every attempt to be Objective, impossible as that task may have been.
    
    Grrrrrrr.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.818CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 19:5747
>There's nothing there for me to impugn.  The stand you've taken
>is one of a mob mentality.  My thoughts have that have been
>heavily influenced by a passage from Mark Twain's An American
>Abroad, which I now refer you to for some home-spun
>philosophy (unlike your Phony-losopher).
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Which passage?


>Tap-dancing?  I have nothing to do with this.  I didn't offer
>this bribe, consider this bribe or accept or reject this bribe.
>That issue has nothing to do with me.  I did address another 
>bribe which you failed to address, as the mob that you're
>in doesn't want to see "integrity" (hah!) in it's own, just in
>the other.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Never said you did.

Now, I can hoist you on your own petard, and using your logic
say the same thing about the supposed bribe that I'm failing to
address.

Or, I can say that my point is not your involvement with a bribe.
I never said that.  I merely made the point that true integrity
would have thrown light on the subject, as I've recently stated.

My initial point was simply that.  From that you have taken
a quantum leap and questions my integrity, based upon my supposed
failure to throw light on a bribe you mentioned...


>No, Frank, this point you make is quite misplaced.  Whether Mike
>attempted to bribe Chris is something I don't know.  Whether
>Chris considered it before ultimately rejecting it is something
>I don't know.  That has nothing to do with me.
>
>But if you're gonna complain about bribery, you can start 
>looking a little closer to home.  Instead you ignored it, which
>has been consistent.

Non-sequiter Dan.  I wasn't complaining about bribery.  I was
complaining about the way it was handled in the contest.  I never
said you had anything to do with that...


'Saw
110.819CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 20:029
Very often people in losing causes try to take as many as they can
with them.....

I'm not a "Holy Roller".  I have strong beliefs on integrity, but
they are usually reserved for issues of more importance that this
notes file.  I'm only saying what I would have done under the
circumstances.  I'm not on trial here, mi amigo...don't forget it...

'Saw
110.820Where is ADA-T anyways? Didn't know this trial was in recess.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 13 1990 20:1810
    Fair enought 1.  If it's any consolation, regardless of the outcome of
    the trial, I can assure you that my handling of the bribes that came
    may way in no Way colored my judgement.  
    
    No, the color of my judgement was Baby Blue, and on that score, I think
    I picked the deserving winner.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.822On bribery, MrT's specialtyHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayTue Feb 13 1990 22:2731
>Which passage?

I'll try to remember to look it up.  It's a fairly long book.

>Never said you did.

You've accused *me* for some reason of compromising my integrity over
the bribery issue, an issue which I absolutely have nothing to do with.

Meanwhile, there is a bribery issue I have something to do with, because I
received a bribe attempt from MrT and made it public, yet you ignored it
in all your mob-like synopses of these events.  Well, now MrT has 
acknowledged the charge, and denied it and demanded evidence.  I
hope you are as vigilant in your protests this time as you have been
previously, but somehow, I doubt you will be.

My point is that you claim to be the voice of integrity, yet you're only
expecting integrity from one side in this case.  The other side is
slyly appealing to all of your worst mob-like sentiments, and playing
you like a piano.

>I merely made the point that true integrity
>would have thrown light on the subject, as I've recently stated.

Not necessarily.  It could just as easily ignore all bribe attempts.  The 
shows that the bribe attempts had no effect on the final scores, which
is as it should be.  No one really knows whether it was really considered.
We must believe the offer was genuine, just as MrT's offer to me was
genuine.   Had I accepted it, *that* would have compromised my integrity.

Dan, author of best contest entry
110.823Cry for us, (T)ammy ...SHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyWed Feb 14 1990 03:2629
110.824AXIS::ROBICHAUDRealLifeRocky-BusterDouglasWed Feb 14 1990 11:145
    	Bob, your eastern elitism does not darken my view of our shining
    beacon of light from the midwest.  Save OURGNG MrT!  You're our
    last hope!
    
    			/Silent_Majority
110.825DWOVAX::EROSNot much fun in Stalingrad, no...Wed Feb 14 1990 11:247
    Meanwhile, in a darkened cavern on a distant planet, shadowy forms
    monitor the trial...
    
    A voice is heard from the darkness:
    
    		"He is a passionate speaker.  Provider 1 bets
    		1,000 quatloos on the Prosecutor."
110.826CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Wed Feb 14 1990 11:5031
Dan,

I never accused you of anything, other than putting your same old
baloney in a new casing.

What I've been bickering with you about now for two days is what
I called true integrity.   I haven't gone back to look over *all*
the replies, but I believe the only way that you could construe
my accusing you would be that the philosopher turned to you 
in the courtroom...

*Anyway*, as far as anyone playing me like a piano (how'd you know
I was a keyboard player?) I can offer you two points, for you
cogitation.

	a) Playing a piano is not an easy task.

	b) I've never billed myself as anything other than
	   "Thersites" in here.  Peruse that character in
	   "Troilus and Cressida" and you'll find the true intent
	   of my ramblings in here...


'Saw

PS  And (sincerely) I am interested in that passage from Twain.  I haven't
    read any of his stuff in *ages*, and the only passage I've heard from
    that particular work deals with the gender of german nouns.  I'd
    be interested to hear more.....

Now, back to the Trial ;^)
110.827LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSWed Feb 14 1990 13:1511
    re .825
       
    I'm roolwaard Tony ... good to know that another Gambler from the
    planet Ezxtos (?) is in NOTES. 
    
    You Trekkie .... :-)
    
    BTW, me and Provider 2 have got 2,000 quratroos on MrT ...
    
    Doc
    
110.829A thousand points of triteMCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Wed Feb 14 1990 13:413
    
    And note .1000 looms on the horizon.
    
110.831RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Wed Feb 14 1990 13:463
    You never axed me about the supposed valuable prize I won...
    
    Sarge
110.832CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Wed Feb 14 1990 13:5316
< Note 110.829 by MCIS1::DHAMEL "Is Nothing Sacred?" >
                        -< A thousand points of trite >-
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dick, you could also say a thousand points of tripe....

But, (as my vacation looms on the horizon), I have to say that
this note has been some of the most fun I think we've had in
here.

McDonald's can advertise their food as a cure for  "Cabin-Fever/Stir-Crazy"
but on the whole, nothing is better for that the a good dose of
SPORTS notes...kinda like a good cathartic....

Chainsaw (ahhhhh)

110.834DWOVAX::EROSNot much fun in Stalingrad, no...Wed Feb 14 1990 14:1224
    Meanwhile, in a nearby drinking establishment:
    
        <Norm enters>
    
        Norm:  Hi everybody!
    
        All:   NORM!!
    
        Sam:   Well Norm, what's the story?
    
        Norm:  The same old thing, Sammy; "boy gets beer, boy drinks
               beer, boy gets another beer"...
    
        Carla: Not that, chubbo, he means what's the story on that
               tape of yours?
    
        Norm:  Well, I was going to watch it last night, but Vera decided
               it was too obscure a plot device so she recorded an episode
               of "Oprah" on it.  Something about women whose husbands
               spend inordinate amounts of time away from home sitting in 
               bars.  Can you believe that?
    
        Woody: Gee, Mr. Peterson, I guess they'll invent just about any
               sort of ridiculous stuff for those shows, huh?
110.836Dean resting comfortably preparing for UVa encounter tonight.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 14 1990 15:4022
    You can't come back when you haven't left.  So far the only thing you
    could hope to have proven by your "case" (which has been HEAVY on
    allegations & innuendos and light on FACTS, BTW) is that I *might* have
    acted a tad irresponsibly in my handling of numerous bribes which came
    my way.  Of course since I didn't *accept* any bribes I committed no
    crime, but that doesn't stop you from banging the drum of mob-rule, and
    lordy I'm not gonna deny that *that* hasn't been successful.  (Frank
    Way is Exhibit 1.)
    
    Let me know when you're finished calling witnesses.  There's really
    hardly a need for me to call any in my defense, since you haven't
    proven a dag-blammed thing that I did wrong, but it's payback time for
    a few noters out there.  :^|
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    
    BTW - I'm dyin' to hear JD's testimony about the shirt and how that
          was a falsified prize.  Just dyin' to hear.  GRRRRRR......
    
    
110.837Come on Chris, confession is good for the soulAXIS::ROBICHAUDNoriega,Ricci,KnorrWed Feb 14 1990 15:450
110.838MrT must have studied McCarthy to get so many of the details rightHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 14 1990 15:5212
    >	Bob, your eastern elitism does not darken my view of our shining
    >beacon of light from the midwest.  Save OURGNG MrT!  You're our
    >last hope!
    
    >			/Silent_Majority

Just as the real Joe McCarthy swayed the thoughts of middle America, cast
doubt on those who stood in the way in his pursuit of power, and encouraged
a spirit of anti-Intellectualism in non-intellectuals, so does OURGNG's 
version.  MrT plays the role of Tailgunner T *so* convincingly.

Dan, the unfortunate target who will not be blacklisted
110.839AXIS::ROBICHAUDNoriega,Ricci,SchneiderWed Feb 14 1990 15:564
    	You're a crook Schneid.  'Fess up so we can shut 110 down and
    go home.
    
    				/Don
110.840Re: FrankHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 14 1990 15:598
Re: Thersites.  Who?  My education is failing me.  Fill me in.

Re: Twain.  My mistake.  The book was "The Innocents Abroad" in which
Twain told of a trip he made around the world with a boatload of Americans.
I couldn't find my copy last night, which means it's probably in an atiic
in New Jersey.

Dan, looking to encourage a few strong spines to stand up and be heard
110.841HEURIS::METZGERI will not Instigate RevolutionWed Feb 14 1990 16:0116
I'll stand up and be heard...

the contest was fixed....

 everybody knows it.


why don't you guys just admit it so that what I know deep in my soul (the fact
the I was the rightful winner) can be confirmed to all.

We all know better than to enter another "context" (tm) sponsored by 
Mr. Knorr.


Metz
110.843AXIS::ROBICHAUDNoriega,Ricci,SchneiderWed Feb 14 1990 16:054
    	Hey my entry was better 'n yours Metz.  How could you have a
    contest winner who likes soccer, skiing and Spike Owen?  Ugh!
    
    				/Don
110.845PWRVAX::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Wed Feb 14 1990 16:123
       /Don was the true winner! Maybe Nazz will give him a coupla tickets
    to make up for ACCrook's sham?
                                            Denny
110.846No Fat Lady singing in hereDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Feb 14 1990 16:1312
>    We're done.  You're done.


	It's NOT done. We've only heard one side - one biased side.

	You've had almost two weeks to rant and rave. It's time for
side two.

>    MrT(he Winner!)
Let's not get ahead of ourselves..

Jim M Seeking the REAL truth
110.847LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Wed Feb 14 1990 16:2010
    
    	Everyone know's this ACC Sham is a crooked affair...  If ACChris's
    intention were to be (and I quote) "as objective as possible", why
    did he contact people prior to the end of the contest asking who
    they were planning on bringing to the game if they had won?
    	Why would he try to rig the trial with a fake judge who obviously
    has been proven to be a cohort of his?  It's all a joke which we,
    the members of OURGNG, are the butt of.
    
    sean 8^)
110.848Shakespeare 101CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Wed Feb 14 1990 16:2353
re .836 (ACC Chris):

	No, I'm not part of mob rule.  I've seen the facks(tm),
	I've heard the arguments.  I've seen your arguments which
	seem kinda week to my small and pitiful brain (it must be
	small and pitiful if it's rule by T, right?)....

	Anyway, throughout my tenure in SPORTS notes I've often compared
	myself to Thersites.  That is merely what I'm doing here.

re .840 (Dan, and who Thersites is):

	Way back in the Halcyon days of my youth, I was afforded the
	opportunity to attend a Shakespeare play at the Yale Repatory
	Theatre.

	The Rep was quite a theatre group, (still are I might add) and
	the play we were to see was called "Troilus and Cressida".

	While Troilus and Cressida is a rather obscure Shakespearian
	play, dealing with the Trojan War, it is rather apropos to
	this particular note, in that the term Pander (no, that's
	not Karen Derry talking about those chinese bears), the term
	"pander" comes from the character Pandarus, in the play.

	At any rate, as is usually the case with Shakespeare's plays,
	T&C had a character who provided comic relief.  Much like
	Caliban in the Tempest, Thersites is one of the grunts (in this
	case in the army.

	The scene I remember best is where four of the main characters
	are having this humongous argument.  Thersites, the true fifth
	wheel, was near the side of the stage.  As the characters would
	argue, Thersites would add asides into the argument, to the
	audience, at first, simply making fun of the participants, then
	taking sides a little.

	I can't remember the actor who played Thersites, only that he
	breathed incredible life into the character and had a wide range
	of facial expressions, which had us all but double up with
	laughter  (*almost* rolling, but not quite).

	So, that is Thersites.

	How do I play Thersites?  Well, perhaps I'm guilty of attempting
	to sway the audience.  But, for the most part, I've added
	background, setting, mood, and a third dimension to this topic.
	(along with some wonderful help I might add)....


So there you have it.

Chainsaw aka Thersites....
110.849I like that placeDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Feb 14 1990 16:3110
>	Way back in the Halcyon days of my youth, I was afforded the
>	opportunity to attend a Shakespeare play at the Yale Repatory
>	Theatre.

	Chainsaw, ever make it to the Shakespeare Theatre in Stratford?
	Quite a place - Saw Julius Ceasar and Midsummer Night's Dream
	there..

Jim M

110.850AXIS::ROBICHAUDBraves/RedSox-FatalAttractionWed Feb 14 1990 16:311
    	Shakespeare play?  Almost as exciting as soccer, eh Frank?
110.851Voice of experienceNAC::G_WAUGAMANWed Feb 14 1990 16:386
    
    After that masterful Shakespearean recollection, 'Saw, I'm now 
    convinced who the *real* Cliff Claven is...
    
    glenn
    
110.852Objectivity 101RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 14 1990 16:3833
    > I've seen the facks(tm), I've heard the arguments, blah, blah, blah
    
    HAH!  Talk about convicting yourself 1Way.  You just proved my point
    *EXACTLY*.  How can you say you've heard all the evidence, etc. when
    the defense hasn't even been presented???  Indeed, I've only
    cross-examined TWO (2) witnesses!
    
    Congrats for Mr. McFall who recognizes this and is reserving judgement. 
    
    I've mentioned before how I don't stand a chance in this trial.
    The reason is starting to become abundantly clear.  See, there could
    only be ONE winner.  As a result, there's tons of sour grapes floating
    around out there who, while perhaps not in the jury box, are doing
    plenty to prejudice the fine people who have been given such awesome
    responsibility.
    
    I don't expect these folk to be able to render a fair decision.  It
    would require a superhuman effort.  Nevertheless my precarious fate is
    in their hands.  My future as an OURGNG noter hangs in the balance.
    
    MrT is admonishing me for threatening to quit if I'm found guilty.
    (Now isn't that calling the kettle black, eh?!)  Well the simple fact
    is, ladies and gents, I simply could not face my noting colleagues if I
    knew they all considered me a cheater.  I'm not.  It's against all I
    believe in.  I'm innocent.  My only crimes are a tendency to joke
    around too much and an unyielding (sometimes overwhelming) passion 
    for Dean Smith and UNC basketball.  If these "crimes" are felonies, we
    might as well end this thing now cause I'm GUILTY.  (This sentence is
    destined to be extracted and used against me by ADA-T out of context,
    but what else is new.  :^( )
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.853Wacketh them allWOODRO::WENTZELLThe things I like, I try twiceWed Feb 14 1990 16:465
Hey, what's going on?  Have you forgotten about us jury-type dudes?  Do
we get to give a verdict yet - 

I wish this guy next to me would stop sleeping with his head on my shoulder,
I have drool running down my arm.  He smells too...
110.854CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Wed Feb 14 1990 16:5143
110.855In that case 1Way, keep yer prejudicial comments to yerself.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 14 1990 16:5537
>    Having Bob "Witch" Hunt in here arguing on your behalf is only the
>    frosting atop this your regrettable downfall.

Believe me, having Bob "Ketchup" Hunt in here is not my doing.  He and
I don't often see eye-to-eye on matters.  The fact that we do agree that
this trial is a sham (more precisely, *YOU*, MrT, are a sham) should tell
you something.

    
>    I happened to mention as an aside that I had proof that the contest
>    was crooked and I've proven it.  

No, you haven't.  Cause it wasn't.
    

>     JD's testimony about the tee-shirt, as sacreligious as it is, only

What testimony???  He ain't given any yet.  Could this *possibly* mean
you and JD are having a little behind-the-scenes communication to rig
more testimony????  Nah.  Not MrT.  Not with his clean record.  NO WAY.
Can't be, just cain't.


>    We're done.  You're done.

Good.  I shall proceed with my cross-examination of your witnesses after
hearing JD's crucial shirt testimony.  

DR MIDNIGHT, STAND BY.


>    MrT(he Winner!)

BARF.  The verdict hasn't been announced, and, given the volumes of
defense Dean's getting ready to present, I'd say you're a *LONG* way
from a "W".
    
110.856CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Wed Feb 14 1990 17:0521
110.857FRSBEE::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSWed Feb 14 1990 17:095
    MrT, I can prove that Mr Knorr was planning to sell this contest
    to the highest bidder !
    
    Now I must go back into the hiding, but you can summon me by flashing
    the Midnight signal (like the Bat-signal) !
110.858DrM, enjoying his last moments with his integrity.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 14 1990 17:1312
    Just don't go pretending you're objective is all 1Way.  Cause you're
    not.  
    
    As to you Doctor Double Zero, you're the next noter about to be
    discredited, so I wouldn't get all antsy to hit the stand.  (Know what
    I mean, Know what I mean????)
    
    Heh heh!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.859AXIS::ROBICHAUDMikeTyson,DonKing,ChrisKnorrWed Feb 14 1990 17:153
    	Come on 00:00.00 tell your sordid tale.
    
    				/Don
110.861Finally I agree with you T. Cain't wait for JD forever.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 14 1990 17:3316
    Dean:	"And get on with it we shall.  Defense calls DOCTOR
    		 MIDNIGHT to the stand."
    
    Dean:	"After swearing yourself in, Doc, could you please 
    		answer a simple question.  As with Mr. Childs, a simple
    		YES or NO will suffice.  We're not asking for an 
    		understanding of VAX internals or anything.
    
    		"DID YOU INITIATE A BRIBE TO ACC CHRIS TO ATTEMPT TO 
    		BUY THIS CONTEST?"
    
    		After answering "YES", could you please explain exactly
    		what the bribe was."
    
    
    - Dean
110.862Oh, he wants to see evidence, but can't provide any for his own caseHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 14 1990 17:3416
    >>I received a bribe attempt and made it public...
    
    >No evidence has been shown. 

What sort of evidence do you want to see?  A copy of the mail message
in which you offered me the bribe?  It's the only evidence there is other
than my word and your denial.

What evidence do you have that Chris even considered Mike's attempted
bribe?  None.  Chris denies considering it, and certainly never accepted
it as the victor (me) got the spoils (the press passes).

Where's the phony-lospopher now to point out this blatant hypocrisy in
Tailgunner T's "case"?

Dan, bribe turner-downer
110.863CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Wed Feb 14 1990 17:4726
110.864SASE::SZABOOURGNG District Mad Whacker BailiffWed Feb 14 1990 17:505
    Hey, Chainspeare, stop pointing out people's filberts, willya?
    
    :-)
    
    Hawk'
110.866Tail gunner T: condemned to repeat historyHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 14 1990 18:0629
    >and the co-conspirators got churlish and finally turned on one another
    >well... *you* know how I'm transfixed by geeky sideshows and the
    >one yesterday with Dan moving slowly away from the now-convicted
    >ACCrook saying "I haven't been accused of anything"...

Ah, but Tailgunner T, you have never shown any conspiracy, and therefore
it would even be fundamentally incorrect to refer to any *alleged 
co-conspirators* much less the libelous tact you have taken to refer to
any co-conspirators.  

All that's been shown so far is that an honest contestent won the contest
and offered his companion ticket to another contestent.  And you have
a witness who attempted to bribe the contest judge and failed.  

Cutting through the Joe McCarthy-style shuck and jive you've wrapped
these "revelations" in, that's all that's been uncovered.  Just as Joe 
McCarthy was an exceedingly poor attorney in his day, so are you in 
yours.  Just as Joe McCarthy succeeded in swaying public opinion
with theatrics and threats, so have you.  Just as Joe McCarthy besmirched
the good names of honest people, so have you.

And just as an attorney from Boston let Joe McCarthy play his hand in
public, and show what an ugly, vicious and vindictive sort of person
he was as he rapped others with irrelevant lies, so have I.

Have you no sense of decency, Tailgunner T?  Have you no sense
of decency?

Dan, standing up for the little guy to the big guy when others are afraid
110.868You've confused the jury with a lynch mobHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 14 1990 18:3018
>What that means, in simple terms, is that if you were to pull the
>proverbial rabbit outta yer hat, if you were to produce a habeus corpus
>that proved that contest wasn't crooked, then I could draw other
>conclusions.

But, Thirsty-eyes, in court, the defendent is not required to "prove the
contest wasn't crooked".  What is required is that the prosecutor "prove
beyond *any* reasonable doubt that it was crooked.  We have not 
seen any *evidence* to show the contest was fixed at all.  Which is why 
MrT attempted to bribe me to extract some.  

It is not necessary for the defense to pull a rabbit out of its hat.  It's
necessary for the defense to rebut or put in question any evidence that
the prosecution provides, if it ever provides any.  A failed bribed attempt
by a contest loser is laughable in that context. 

Oliver Wendell Schneider

110.869FRSBEE::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSWed Feb 14 1990 18:4227
    This is my sworn deposition :
    
    In the midst of the love-fest/contest, I stayed true to myself.
    I wasn't going to get orgasmic over J.R. Reid, Dean Smif, or any
    of Chris' B.S. Inany case, I thought I would enjoy the best of both
    worlds - I'd enter the contest, put in a real entry (JR bashing
    and all), and still win. If not, at least I could say that I had
    an honest entry. So I sent Chris a message asking (with a lot of
    smilies) if he could be bought.
    
    Well you can imagine my response when he told me that he in fact
    said that it would be great to see me win given my anti-Celtic bias
    and all, but that he had already recieved 5 bribes (he called them
    'offers'), including an inside track on seats to the ACC Tourny.
    
    Chris was most enthusiastic over that. In any case, I knew that
    I could not, and would not offer such lucractive bribes for such
    an ankle-grabbing contest.
    
    And that, sirs, is the truth. I knew that there was soemthng slimey
    when Schneider won, and I've proof of that too.
    
    Anyhow, you can supeonea me for tomorrow after my meeting (1PM EST).
    
    Thank you,
    
    DrM
110.870FRSBEE::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSWed Feb 14 1990 18:446
    MrT, I am available for more questions today.
    
    And don't worry about the threats, I have the Apostrophe Police
    Security Specialist John Hendry to protect me.
    
    Doc 
110.871CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Wed Feb 14 1990 18:5531
But mein freund, you've made one error in your logic.

I'm not on the jury.  I'm a simple un-objective observer.  As such,
I fit in with many other noters in here who are in the same boat.

Not on the jury, so not bound by legalities and proprieties in terms
of evidence etc.  The aforementioned masses will engage in behaviors
such as speculation, discussion etc.

	"Did Crafts run his wife throught the woodchipper"

	"Sure, he had to have"

	"How do we know Ted Bundy didn't kill all them women"

	"Sure he did it, lookit hiz eyes...."


Those kinds of things are bound to go on.  

I am Legion.  I am the Masses.  My philosopher, the girls in the back
row, Thersites...They all represent the simple, the common folk of
the world.  They are not standing before the court in italian suits,
they are not using NCAA Coach/Reverends as their mouthpieces...
They are commonfolk.  They are Everyman.  The are the Salt of the
Earth, and as such are not bound as a jury would be.

Convince Everyman and you have won...if not a legal victory, then a
moral one...

Chainsaw
110.872CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Wed Feb 14 1990 19:0013
.871 was written to Oliver Wendell (onan) Dan....

BTW, has anyone noticed that since Onan Dan has been so busy
debating the finer points of our existence in the Universe with me,
that we've heard naught from Judge Wapner?

I've not had the chance to make the Philosopher talk, deal with
God and the Devil, or even interject from the girls in the back
row...

But NEITHER HAS WAPNER RAISED HIS TOUPEE'D 666 HEAD!

I think that says a lot....
110.873Calling McFall....my disk is fullMPO::GILBERTThe Wild Rover - Portfolio Mgmt ServicesWed Feb 14 1990 19:138
    
    Me and my Notes Extractor thinks we've heard enough from both sides.
    We implore Moderator/Judge McFall to open a new Note to the Jury
    of peers (SPORTS NOTES readers) to vote guilty or not guilty over
    a prescribed period of time (as is the Democratic way). All votes
    should, of course, have to come from valid node and username.
    
    What say ye Judge McFall!!!
110.874...a voice from the jury.....TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Wed Feb 14 1990 19:1325
    Ahem.....
    
    
    AHemm!!...
    
    Excuse me,
    
    I'm sorry but.....
    
    
    
    
    
    Could the pee-pee wacker (aka Bailiff) please find some way
    to stop that old man in the robe sitting wayy back in the last row
    
    
    ...from flickin' boogers onto that fat lady in front of him?
    
    
    That's real disguisting to us numb-assed jury folk.
    
   
    
    Thank you in advance
110.875The time has come, the walrus saidDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Feb 14 1990 19:1915
>    Me and my Notes Extractor thinks we've heard enough from both sides.
>    We implore Moderator/Judge McFall to open a new Note to the Jury
>    of peers (SPORTS NOTES readers) to vote guilty or not guilty over
>    a prescribed period of time (as is the Democratic way). All votes
>    should, of course, have to come from valid node and username.
    
>    What say ye Judge McFall!!!

	That will be the course of action to take, but only after we
give the defense time to state it's case. Time to get rolling here -
JD can be called later...

	Let the Prosecution rest - and the defense begin!
Judge Jim

110.876Judge Wapner revealedHUAXIA::WAPNERSober,Fair,Beyond Reproach,MeWed Feb 14 1990 19:2171
    {The scene:  Judge Wapner's last stand.  He's had enough.}
    
Doctor Midnight: MrT, I can prove that Mr Knorr was planning to sell 
    	this contest to the highest bidder !
    
    {bang!  Bang!! BANG!!!}
    
    "Order in the court!  Order in the court!
    
    "Only with Coach Smith's approval will the ex-juror, Doctor Midnight,
    be permitted to testify in this courtroom.  Before that, we shall
    review his misconduct!
    
    "This court chose Midnight to be a member of the jury and he was to
    hear the case and help decide the outcome.  That has not come to pass. 
    While still sitting on the jury, Midnight was asked by ADA-T to testify
    once before.  This court can only conclude that there was off-line
    contact between prosecutor and a member of the jury, clearly a breach
    of ethics.
    
    "ADA-T, in these domains, jury-tampering is most severely frowned upon! 
    Bailiff Szabo, again, whack ADA-T's peepee!!
    
    "Soon thereafter, this court began to receive threating mail messages
    from Midnight, and he was relieved of his jury duty.  With that
    Midnight attempted to negotiate a bribe with the court.  It was
    ignored.
    
    "Any testimony offered by Midnight must be seen in this light.
    
    "As for my identity, I am prepared to reveal it, and then I will hand
    the gavel to Justice McFall.
    
    "The serious breach of procedures that ADA-T has perpetrated here with
    respect to this court has led me to this most painful decision.  It's
    obvious that ADA-T does not possess the intellect to begin to make any
    judgements as to my identity, and so he was led astray by another. 
    Yet, I caution that when one considers allies in a confidence game,
    ADA-T, that one chooses his fellow confidence men more wisely.
    
    "You do me great honor in thinking that I am Dan Schneider, yet for all
    your manufactured evidence, you are incorrect."
    
    {The serious face of wise old Judge Wapner tightens as his hands reach
    behind his head and under his chin.  It becomes apparent that the
    trustworthy features which the jury had believed in is nothing more
    than a rubber mask.  Underneath it emerges a hauntingingly beautiful
    Oriental woman with long flowing dark hair.
    
    The jury gasps.  Chainsaw sells Kelly Bundy to the highest bidder. 
    Bailiff Szabo realizes why the judge kept an assortment of dresses in
    his chambers.}
    
    "I am Helen Chan, System Manager of node HUAXIA (the transliteration of
    the ancient poetic words for "China") and ever a fair-minded judge.  I
    was asked to do this with no special favors for anyone, just to see
    that the case was carried out fairly.
    
    "I hereby excuse myself from this case, and appoint Judge McFall to
    continue to preside in my place.
    
    "It is a shame that so many good names have been tarnished because of
    ADA-T's desparate method of prosecution.  And with that, I bid this
    courtroom 'farewell'."
    
    {Helen descends from behind the bench, with the gracious assistance of
    Bailiff Szabo.  She hands her precious gavel over to the
    newly-appointed Judge McFall, and exits into her chambers.}
    
    Judge Wapner
    
110.877Norm would never convict *me*HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 14 1990 19:3416
>I am Legion.  I am the Masses.  My philosopher, the girls in the back
>row, Thersites...They all represent the simple, the common folk of
>the world. 

They have proven to be the life's blood of charlatans throughout the years
when they are unwittingly used for another's devices.  Joe McCarthy
feasted on the People's fear of the Red Menace.  Richard Nixon thrived
by appealing to the silent majority.  And Tailgunner T puffs himself up
ever more and gloats and connives and gets misty-eyed sanctimonious
on us because of the clamor raised by your Legion, your Masses, your 
Everyman.

It's far harder to stand apart from the crown than within.

Dan, sensing there is some fairness way inside Way

110.878LEt there be a recessDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Feb 14 1990 19:3817
	Thank you Justice Chan.

	In light of the circumstances, I think a recess is in order
until tomorrow morning. Unless JD can give his testimony this evening,
the defense will begin tomorrow morning - with both attorneys cognizant
of the fact the JDs testimony will be given an opportunity to be heard -
neither prosocution nor defense cases will be considered finished
without first hearing the testimony, and then having a chance to cross
examine.

	Court is adjourned, except for those oohs and aahs expected from
the audience...

	(Bang! Bang! Bang!)

	Justice McFall
110.879Crisp should be trembling...RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Wed Feb 14 1990 20:147
    Justice McFall,
    
    Can I send you my testimony tonight/early tomorrow morning?
    
    I really am rather busy right now.
    
    JD
110.880Wheels of justice starting to moveDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Feb 14 1990 20:3112
>    Justice McFall,
    
>    Can I send you my testimony tonight/early tomorrow morning?
    
>    I really am rather busy right now.
    
>    JD

	This is acceptable. I'll post it when I receive it..

Justice McFall

110.881Shheeeeshhh!!CUJO::JOHNSTONKill em all, let God sort em outWed Feb 14 1990 21:374
	This Juror is getting crapped on left and right. I'll  try to get in
tomorrow.

Mike JN
110.882COMET::JOHNSTONYour suffering will be legendary!!Wed Feb 14 1990 21:4817
Hmmmph!

	Some damning evidence here. Mr. Crisp has his work cut out for him.

When it comes to Jury voting, I should mention that I am:

	COOKIE::MJOHNSTON
	CUJO::JOHNSTON
	COMET::JOHNSTON
	POGO::JOHNSTON
	HAVOC::JOHNSTON
	UCOUNT::JOHNSTON

	(I don't expect six votes,  but I don't want my vote discounted if I
happen to be on a node unfamiliar to other noters as my location.)

Mike JN
110.883RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Thu Feb 15 1990 01:153
    I will be availble live tomorrow for testimony.
    
    JD
110.884Dan, Helen would be very disappointed if she read this conference.VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good Bye!Thu Feb 15 1990 03:090
110.885When Needle talks people listen ;^)CNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestThu Feb 15 1990 11:132
    
    what say ye now Dan?
110.886PWRVAX::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Thu Feb 15 1990 11:403
       Nobody buys it Dan, Have Helen come in and explain it under her real
    Nodename.
                                    Denny
110.887CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Thu Feb 15 1990 12:1230
As the sun rises on OURGNG County, Chainsaw stirs in his bed.  Tomorrow
he starts vacation.  As he lustily reaches for Kelly, the phone rings.

	Saw:	Hello
	Traci:	Hi 'Saw.  I've got GREAT news, is Kelly up?
	Saw:	No, but I am...

	Traci:	Oh, well I'll tell you then.
	Saw:	(somewhat disappointed) Okay....

	Traci:	I'm *getting Married!!!!***.  Brook finally asked me to
		marry him...
	Saw:	You mean that Hollywood prop man you've been seeing?
        Traci:  One and the same...
	Saw:	Does that mean no more goalies?
	Traci:	Sorry...


Meanwhile, across town, in the library, Onan Dan searches for a volume
of Troilus and Cressida.  The pillars of the building creak....

The Greek Philosopher, nose properly wiped by a fine silken handerchief,
is staying at T's house.  Soon after arriving, he was heard to mutter..
"My quest is ended", and he put down his lantern for good.  Soon after
that, it turned out that the Greek Philosopher was none other than
Bob Uecker in disguise.

The Cock crows, and a new judge prepares to take the bench as the 
Trial continues....
	
110.888Ooo, The Trial takes a smelly turn!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 15 1990 12:57140
(Insert Dean looking discustedly at DocM)

Dean:	"Doctor, you seem to have a little trouble following simple
	instructions!  I asked for a YES or NO answer in regards to
	a DIRECT question, that being "Did you initiate a bribe to
	my client, ACC Chris?"  Instead what we got was a fluff-a-
	puff "deposition" that attempts to sweeten a very ugly piece
	of garbage, kinda like spraying some perfume in an outhouse.

	Alas though, after sifting through the swamp of your first
	paragraph we finally hit dry land at the end.  If I may
	quote:  "So I sent Chris a message asking (with a lot of
	smilies) if he could be bought."

(Insert Dean looking humorously (and perhaps not without a touch of pity)
 at Doc, who's looking more than a little worried at this point.  Then,
 turning slowly to face Judge McFall ...)

Dean:	"Your honor, I'd like to enter exhibit 73481-B, which is an
 	extract of the EXACT mail message Mr. Brooks sent to my client
	on 01/25/90."

Judge:	"Well Dean, this does kinda violate DEC policy, but seeing's how
	we've trampled all over that little P&P, I'll allow it."

Dean:	"Thanks judge."

******************************************************************************
EXHIBIT 73481-B - contents of mail msg sent by BROOKS to KNORR, 1/25/90
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Suppose I just buy the tickets off you, NoTY style ???
    
    That ought to throw the panderers for a loop !
    
    Give them to th *honest* noter - DrM !

******************************************************************************

(Insert sight of the good doctor, slumping down in the stand like probably
 countless other doctors who have been presented with nasty and undeniable
 malpractice evidence.)

Dean:	"So.  The Truth.  No smilies.  No jokes.  Just a simple, blatant,	
	uncreative bribe."

(Insert Dean shaking his head slowly back and forth, with a mega-discusted
 look on his face.  He turns to face the good jury, which has been passing
 a rope back and forth amongst each other during the entire 
 cross-examiniation.)

	"Now, prosecution has again attempted to paint a picture of my
	client considering this bribe.  ACC responded with his usual
	naive good humor, never intending to even consider such a sordid
	offer, but enjoying the laughs none-the-less.  He didn't even
	consider for a nano-second, of course, that his "good humor" 
	would come back to poison him, like an innocent child biting into
	a razor-blade infested apple at Halloween.

	Nevertheless good jury, I submit to you that it's been common
	opinion in here that *IF* Mr.Mike Childs had come forth with the
	ACC tickets that he would've won the contest.  This is utter folly
	of course, but it's been difficult to disprove.  Until now!

	For here we have a bribe offer where the bribe *WAS* attainable!
	Assuming DrM has money (we could subpeona his checking account,
	if necessary, but I doubt he'll dispute the fact), this bribe
	could've EASILY been accepted.  

	Now I ask you good jury, was Doctor Midnight sitting high above
	the Gahden on February 7th????    [no]

(Insert Dean turning again to the Honorable Judge McFall.)

Dean:	"Your honor, I'd like to introduce one more piece of evidence.
	It contains the final mail message sent by the doctor to my
	client on February 1st."

Judge:	"SO ENTERED!"

******************************************************************************
EXHIBIT ZX-343BY03 - contents of mail msg sent by BROOKS to KNORR, 2/1/90
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subj:	Yo Chris ...

    I'm sorry about what's happened ... it seems that T has it in for
    you.
    
    Let me knwo if you need The Doc as a character witness. I think
    I can help prove that you're an honorable man.
    
    No strings attached dude. If you need an extra defender, I'm here.
    
    Doc
    
******************************************************************************

(Insert sight of Dean looking at DrM with a sickining look as he stares
 at the traiter the same way he does at a guy who just took a bad shot,
 or a ref that just blew a call.)

Dean:	"Mr. Brooks, you *discust* me.  Your behavior has been dispicable,
	not to mention inexcusable and unconscienable.  The fact that this
	fine jury could even CONSIDER your testimony damaging is mind-
	boggling.  You've offered a blatant monetary bribe. One which was
	not accepted. You've supplied ADA-T with private documents indiscreetly
	and with glee and perjured yourself blatantly.  But this.  This
	is too discusting to even contemplate!  THIS

(and here Dean's voice is rising to FULL INTENSITY, but there's something
 funny sounding about it, like he's talking with something in his mouth)

	MAKES ME WANNA ....

(insert Dean yuking all over DrM!!!!  The courtroom immediately fills with
 the discusting smell.  Doc M, totally grossed out, yukes spontaneously as
 well, all over himself.  Judge McFall, upon the sight of the twin barf,
 blows *his* breakfast all over DocM too.  The Doc is covered with THREE
 different breakfasts!!  But oh, it doesn't stop there!  The jury, seeing
 this discusting sight and having their nostrils filled with the
 smell of puke, simultaneously BARF all over each other!!  The
 same thing happens in the gallery!  Everybody's standin' up an
 yukin'.  People are screaming and yelling, barfing and farting, yuking
 and puking!  ACC Chris has long since lost his lunch and is now into
 dry heaves.  

 But there's one person who, amidst this caos, hasn't lost his lunch.  In
 fact, he's sitting eating an Egg McMuffin, and enjoying it too.  Who 
 could this person be?  Obviously someone used to the sight of discust.
 Used to the unseemly.  Used to puke and filth and lies and sordid deeds.
 Who is this person???  Why, ADA-T, of course!

 (Finally, after 15 minutes or so of this incredible scene, Dean composes
  himself enough to say:

Dean:	"Your honor, this is just an opinion, but I think we need a recess!"

Judge: (with a choking sound)	"So granted!"   SQUIRT! SMUSH! SQUISH!
    
110.889DWOVAX::EROSNot much fun in Stalingrad, no...Thu Feb 15 1990 13:0856
Meanwhile, on a local public radio station...

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        (not to mention tax incentives) allows them to pump huge
	sums of money into public radio in exchange for a brief
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	more and we're gonna make you feel like dirt until we
	get it.

	Think of all the wonderful programming you get here on
	WHIN.  "Famous Clock Chimes From Around the World",
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	programs.  Remember, WE were the first the bring you
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	We've got to go now, but don't worry, we'll be back, you 
	can count on that...

	<Cheezy intro music>

	It's Thursday, February 15th and this is NPR's "Morning
	Sedition"...

	<More cheezy intro music>

	Here are the headlines:

	Daniel Ortega helps old lady across street.

	George Bush to attend secret drug-related meeting in Colombia.

	The VAXnotes trial of ACChris nears it's 900th reply as accusations
	mount.  Rumors that Roger Ailes is directing the prosecution from 
	behind the scenes are rampant.  In a related story, the defense 
	denies that Willie Horton was given Celtics tickets while on
	furlough...
110.890The big question -- who will get reply 1000?STAR::YANKOWSKASIvana better dealThu Feb 15 1990 13:124
    Great stuff Tony, I'm roolllinng!
    
    
    Paul (who's heard one too many Channel 2 appeal for money)
110.893Picking on spelling a excellent sign of desperation.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 15 1990 13:5318
>    Say, do you s'pose that the REAL Dean Smif' spells so bad [sic]?
    
>    (many in courtroom with titter with amusement)
    
>    Hey ACCrookmeister!  I demand that you entire the entire mails, [sic]
>    not these edited down little vignette jobs you're pushing.
    
    I just love when you you put your Bob Lanier-sized foot in your mouth
    T, Bobby Knight style.  "I demand that you entire the entire ...". 
    That's purty good English thare partner! 
    
    Hah!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    
    
110.894CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Thu Feb 15 1990 14:0423
In the back row:


	Kelly:	I dunno, I think that McFall's toes are kinda cute.

	Babs:	Well, I'll tell you one thing...That Wapner was no
		woman!  He had a Jets tattoo on his butt....

	Traci:	Brook is meeting me tonight.  We're gonna sneak
		back in here and do it right on the Judge's bench!

	Beth:	I hope JD is okay...that proposal is driving him
		crazy...you know his isn't even interested in doing
		it....

	Kelly:	I'll have the 'Saw pick him up some oysters.  They always
		work for him....

	Babs:	Gross.  Where'd this booger come from?  Is that Uecker
		guy here again????

	Uecker: [standing outside open courtroom doors]  Hey, down in
		front....he missed the tag!
110.895Book me on Qantas right away ...SHALOT::HUNTThirtysomething Mutant Ninja DaddyThu Feb 15 1990 14:0814
    Hey, Frank, I'll tell you what.  I respect you for your devotion
    to Kelly Bundy.  She is one very fine young lady.
    
    However, you can have her, dude.  She's all yours.
    
    I've had my faith in God reaffirmed as it is every February.
    
    
    
                   *** Elle Macpherson is God ***
    
    Bob Hunt
    
    P.S.  And Kathy Ireland ain't too shabby, either.
110.897CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Thu Feb 15 1990 14:176
Bob Hunt...

Elle MacPherson is certainly an angel to behold.  I applaud your
taste...

Chainsaw
110.898Please respond Dr. Midnight, to the driect question - Yes or NoDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 15 1990 14:3313
	Elle McPherson aside.. Mr. T - I have proven no loyalties
to either side. I claimed you had the right to have Mr. Devlin to the
stand, when he became available, which might be Noon Eastern time...
You have had more than enough opportunity to question Dr. Midnight,
in fact, defense attorneys are cross-examining him now. You have a
reserve right to recall him to the stand, as well as Chris Knorr. 
Remember, the "window" of interest for this trial is beginning to
run out. I'm just trying to move things along.

	BTW, Att. Smith, that was last night's dinner I lost, not
breakfast.

	Justice Jim aka The Barefoot Judge
110.900LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSThu Feb 15 1990 14:578
    I did NOT offer a bribe to Crooked Chris Knorr. Plain and simple.
    He told *me* what the going rate for a bribe was. 
    
    Anyhow, any fool can see that that message was a fake ... the NoTY
    election this year was clean, wasn't it ?
    
    Chris and Dean, you two are slime ! Confess and de troof will set
    you free !
110.901Mr. T - don't be afraid of a fair trialDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 15 1990 15:0222
>    Nyah shaddap McFall.  I'm tarred of dealing with phonies on the
>    bench, you're self-appointed and have only been approved by Onan
>    ACCrook and Schneid, the erstwhile purveyor of bad justices when
>    he's no in drag as a_oriental beauty...

	Mr. Prosecutor, this is not your personal showcase.. I was asked
by a usually read only noter  - Mike Gilbert - you'll see him in some baseball
notesfiles and notes in here, possibly some boxing. Noone else has objected
except for you..  What does that say? Are you really afraid of an impartial
judge? I have stated that you'll get every opportunity to finish presenting
your case, and by the same token, allow the defense to present theirs. I've
done nothing to make you think otherwise.

	(Turns to jury)

	Wake up!  And if you were awake, please disregard the prosecutor's
latest physical display. He's had a tough 2 weeks. Bailiff, please unlimber
your "whacking" muscles. I have a feeling they'll be needed soon..

JJ

	
110.902RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Thu Feb 15 1990 15:099
    The courtroom is abuzz, as Sarge, aka JD, aka John Devlin strides
    in - a confident air about him.
    
    He spots Saw, Kelly, Traci and Beth, and moves over, giving the
    Beth-ster a slow, languid, soul searing, ummm, 'peck on the gums'.
    
    He slaps a handshake on the Saw, and settle in for the day...
    
    JD
110.903A Vote of Confidence for The Judge...CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Thu Feb 15 1990 15:1010
I'd like to go on record as approving Judge McFall.

I've known Jim for a while now, and he's never proven to be anything
but fair, considerate, and (a relatively unknown fact) he possess
a John Hendry-like flair for statistics an knowledge of rules.

Judge McFall, whether shod or not, is okay in my book...

For what it's worth,
Thersites
110.904CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Thu Feb 15 1990 15:1611
In the back row:

	'Saw:	Yo, Sarge, what's with T and the chair?

	Beth:	I dunno, I think he looks kinda cute in it...

	Traci:	If I could get him strapped in there for an hour
		I might be able to convince him to convince me
		not to marry Brook....

	Bailiff: SHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
110.905Prosecutor - ready to resume questioning of Mr. DevlinDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 15 1990 16:4646
While we wait for the Prosecutor to continue his questioning of the witness,
here's a courtroom update:


	Prosecutor: Mr. T
	Defense Counsel: Dean Smith
	Defendant: Chris Knorr

	Bailiff: The inimitable Mr. Szabo

	Thersites: Frank Way

	Jurors:  VIEW3D::MacGregor AKA The Wizard
		 COOKIE::MJohnston AKA Mike JN AKA Man of a thousand Nodes
		 MIIS1::Hamel      AKA Dick
		 MAMIE::Wentzell   AKA Scott
		 TOLKIN::Farley    AKA the uncontrollable one
		 Charlie Partee    AKA Mario's Love Slave
		 Mr. Haas          AKA Mr. Haas

Prosecution Witnesses:			Planned Defense Witnesses:
Dan Schneider				Frank Way AKA Chainsaw
Doug Ross				John Hendry AKA Apostrophe Police Cpt.
John Devlin aka Sarge			Steve Nazzaro
Dr. Midnight				Tom Shaughnessy AKA Mr. T
Chris Knorr AKA ACChris
Mark Lefebvre AKA Lufay
Don Robichaud AKA /DON AKA Rochibaud

Distinguished Guests:
Connie Selleca
Babs
Kelly Bundy
Traci Lords
Roxette
Beth
Do I detect a trend here? :^)

Observers:
Tony Eros
Cheers gang
God
Devil

That's it for now
110.906COOKIE::MJOHNSTONKeep on keepin' on!Thu Feb 15 1990 17:0441
Murmurs from the Jury (Still damp.. but refreshed, wide awake, and considerably
                      better smelling after being hosed down in the parking lot)


	Your Honor, We have reached a verdict.

	Sit DOWN, you Dildo! It's not over yet.

	What?

	I'll see your five and raise you five.

	Well I've made up my mind.

	Just be quiet. You could be declared in contempt of court.

	A contemptible WHAT!?!?

	SHH

	... and this picture is Babs and Roxette, but they traded bikini tops.

	What's worse, they might declare a mistrial.

	Or an ABORTION!

	I think he means miscarriage of justice.

	... and this is them chasing me after I STOLE their bikini tops.

	What's that mean?

	And two cards for the dealer

	It means, Roachdropping, that we'd have to sit through this crap AGAIN!

	.... and this one you can't see me, but I'm underneath, uh, everything.

	How'd ya like me to ask Frank to loan the Bailiff his chainsaw??!

	HEY! I ain't saying NOTHING! Let's get on with it.
110.907RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Thu Feb 15 1990 17:055
    
    95 replies to go, 95 replies, you enter a note, ctrl - z,
    and 94 replies to go....
    
    JD
110.908RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Thu Feb 15 1990 17:0714
    Beth:  Hey JD, what's that shirt underneath you tailored Italian
    shirt???  Look funny...
    
    JD:  Beth, it's, um, the infamous 'prize'
    
    Beth:  Oh, can I see it - and what's that smell?
    
    JD:  Um, it's the shirt....and you caint see it yet.
    
    Saw:  Yo JD, pretty cool, Huh?
    
    Connie: Where's /Don?  I'm supposed to work out with him??/
    
    JD
110.909CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Thu Feb 15 1990 17:3213
Outside the courtroom:


	Bailiff Szabo:	Okay, you're coming with me....c'mon!

	Uecker:		Oh, I must be down in the front row....

	Bailiff:	[leading Uecker to the front row] Sit down
			and stop flicking them boogers...

	Uecke:		Hey, GREAT seats....


110.911CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Thu Feb 15 1990 18:0727
Meanwhile, in a place nearby, yet oh so far away....


	Jimi:	(just finishing a guitar lick)  Hey, Jim, you been
		watching this trial thing going on down there?

	Jim:	Yeah.  Sure beats watching those re-runs of the
		Spanish Inquisition don't it?

	Jimi:	Yeah, man, lemme tell ya though, I knew all the
		time that the Philosopher guy was Uecker...

	Jim:	Yeah, but that's only because you fast forwarded.
		I remember that Chainsaw guy...he stopped by
		last year in Paris, but forgot to bring his camera.

	Jimi:  	Yeah, he's cool, he likes Seattle.

	Janis:	I'm kinda into that Bundy chick...she'd be perfect
		to play Bobbie McGee in a TV movie...

	Ronnie:	Yeah, that Chainsaw's okay.  He can put back some
		Jack, and you know, he takes a lotta heat for it,
		but he keeps us alive, man... He hasn't sold out
		to all the new stuff, ya know....

	Jimi:	Amen, brother...hey, here's the next witness....
110.912Let's get on with itDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 15 1990 18:1913
	Bailiff, please do the swearing in for Mr. Devlin...

	Also, Mr. Prosecutor, your statement is taken under advisement.
However, it is not for me to rule on whether testimony is valid or not.
That will be for the jury and the good people of OURGNG::SPORTS to decide,
AFTER  ALL the evidence is heard.

	Jury, are you still there - I feel we are getting to the crux of
the matter now.. Listen up!

	Bailiff, where are those voices coming from - the floor above us?
JJ
110.913You can't win this one ADA-T & DrM. Cause you're in the *wrong*RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 15 1990 18:3310
    I'd like to hear exactly how DrM's testimony was tainted.  The fact
    that he bribed me is undeniable.  The fact that I didn't reprint the
    entire mail message immaterial.
    
    Judge McFall sir, if you'd like me to reprint the *entire* mail
    message, I'm prepared to do so.  
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.914CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Thu Feb 15 1990 18:3927
In that same place:


	Jimi:	Hey Jim, check this cat Knorr out...

	Jim:	Man is he bogus or what?

	Jimi:	He reminds me of Casey Casom.  In fact, any second
		man, I expect to hear him axe me some sort of
		trivia question...

	Janis:	How bout that dude Smif'.  That guy is really bogus.
		He's even less of a reverend than that Bakker guy.

	Jim:	Don't mention that Bakker guy.  Here he is, with this
		really hot Jessica chick, and he winds up lookin'
		like goofy...it lasted all of about 15 seconds...

	Jimi:	I thought The Man said we couldn't watch those tapes.

	Jim:	Yeah, well, what can He do?  Arrest me, like they
		did in New Haven...

	Ronnie:	I like that Bailiff.  He's okay.  He's another guy 
		that can put some Jack away....

	Janis:	That JD cat's gonna testify...shhhhhh
110.915Guarantee of fair trial is gone. Speedy too, apparently.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 15 1990 18:4815
    The decade will end, my hair will be completely white, the Atlanta
    Braves will have won a Title, Roy Williams will be UNC's coach, Bobby
    Knight will be behind bars for murdering an official, VMS will be
    running Version 10.3-1, Kelly Bundy will be sagging, ...
    
    
    
    BEFORE J.D. EVER HITS THE STAND.
    
    Judge, can't we speed things along a little??!!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    
110.917Bailiff.. Bailiff!! Where is JD?DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 15 1990 18:5012
>    Judge McFall sir, if you'd like me to reprint the *entire* mail
>    message, I'm prepared to do so.  
    
    
    Defense Attorney Dean Smith, AKA DADS, please let that be part of
your cross-examination of the witness Dr. Midnight..

	Let us hear the testimony of Mr. Devlin

JJ
    

110.918He said he'd be here, I believe him - BTW, wehre did Beth go?DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 15 1990 18:5413
>    One cain dispute how to interpret a_introduced document; but a document
>    denounced by its alleged author is NOT admissable!

	Mr ProsecuTor, your point is well taken. However, DADS retains the 
right to submit the entire document, and have the witness comment on it,
DURING Cross Exmaination..

	At this time we wish to hear from Mr. Devlin. Being as we are all bound
to DEC, Mr. Devlin will put forth his tetimony when WORK allows him too,
DADS. We cannot rush justice along, we must wait for it to find it's own
course..

JJ
110.919LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Thu Feb 15 1990 19:005
    
    	Screw all this legal, organized mumbo jumbo jive... 
    WE WANT JUSTICE!!!!!!!!
    
    sean
110.920CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Thu Feb 15 1990 19:2112
And as the late afternoon sun casts its lengthening shadows
across OURGNG County, the Chainsaw heads home for his vacation.
There's cows that need milking, fences that need mending, and 
calves waiting to be born.....

Chainsaw has wished all involved in the trial the best of luck.
If he gets a chance, and doesn't have problems dialing in from
home, Bob Uecker and the girls, and the DeadRockStars(tm) might
make a brief appearance....

Till week after nexted,
Chainsaw
110.922I'm with yea sean.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 15 1990 19:496
    Now now sean, settle down.  Once the NOT GUILTY verdict comes in for me
    we'll be able to seek *real* justice.  Namely, by stringing up the
    corrupt Assistant DA, MrT!
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.923see Slasher, I got bounced as a hostile witness ;^)CNTROL::CHILDSCeltics destroy/destroyed the/by WestThu Feb 15 1990 19:561
    
110.924Tell your story SargeDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 15 1990 19:5712
	BANG! BANG! BANG!

	I WILL have Order in my court! These charges and counter-charges
are beneath you both! Further outburts will result in pee-pee whacking of the
highest order!  Bailiff, stand at the ready. 

	Members of the jury are instructed to disregard the backbiting
going on.

	Where IS Sarge, anyways?

JJ
110.926For the Prosecuting Attorney when he returnsDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 15 1990 21:0841
>    I DEMAND that these geeks Cease and Desist calling me *assistant*
>    DA.  I'm District Prosecuting Attorney for OURGNG County.
    
>    They cain either address me as "Mr. Prosecuting Attorney" or "Mr.       
>    Prosecutor"  or "DA."  "Sir" would be fine, too.   

	This is agreeable to me.
    
>    I also think the Court deserves, after all the squalor we've had 
>    revealed to us thus far, to know what ACCrook could possibly have
>    in mind for his "defense."             -------
	HOWEVER, you must also refrain from ^^^^^^^ 
   
>    What's he gonna do, bark like a dog and beg for mercy?

	Only Vanna white barks like a dog!
    
>    That's his only out, Your Excellency.  The guy's been caught so
>    many times he doesn't have a sliver of credibility left.  Caught
>    seeking bribes, negotiating bribes.  Caught fixing scorecards.
>    Caught fixing up fake judges.  Caught forging evidence.
    
>    Caught caught caught.

	These are your opinions, though they may be shared by others.
I would like to have all evidence heard.

    
>    Your Honorship, I humbly beg that the court reconsider my opening
>    motion that the defendant is totally insane and as such doesn't
>    have a rat's ass of a chance if he continues blasting his feet off
>    pump shotgun-style with this so-called "defense" of his.
    
>    Hey, Your Honoria, I like little black comedy myself.  But *this*
>    is getting outta hand!
    
     Unfortunately, there is not enough clear evidence to have the 
defendant declared insane.  DADS(tm) has yet to call forth ANY of
his defense witnesses.

JJ
110.927RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWaiting in the wings...Thu Feb 15 1990 21:356
    Your Honor, I'm sorry I was unavailable.  Had to deliver the proposal
    myself, due to unforseen difficulties.
    
    I will be available tomorrow in the am.
    
    JD
110.928My last note in sports....HUAXIA::CHANFri Feb 16 1990 12:439
    The only thing I'm disappointed in is that ADA-T was so willingly
    duped and that he so willingly duped others.  And I'm 
    disappointed that this trial has taken so long.  It was
    fun for a while, but I've given it enough time.

    Judge Wapner


110.930RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Fri Feb 16 1990 14:016
    The lean, sun-tanned, sinewy body of a man called Sarge strolls
    into the courtroom, takes his seat in the gallery with Beth, Traci,
    Kelly and the Saw, gives kisses to all the ladies, a high five to
    the Saw, and smiles at ACCrisp.  I'm ready to do it, yer honor...
    
    JD
110.932Way to go SargeDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 16 1990 14:233
	Let the testimony begin..
Where's dat pesky Baiwiff...
JJ
110.933JD shows at last ... RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 16 1990 14:256
    Finally.  This trial's dragging out longer than the NBA playoffs. 
    (i.e. a *long* time ...)
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.934RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Fri Feb 16 1990 14:264
    Of course I swear to tell the whole truth, and nothing but it,
    whattayathink I am? 
    
    JD
110.935PWRVAX::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Fri Feb 16 1990 14:403
       How come we caint get T and JD in here at the same time? Will
    someone please Write-Lock this note!!
                                             Denny
110.936;-)RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Fri Feb 16 1990 14:445
    Denny,
    
    You ever see me and MrT at the same time???
    
    JD
110.938RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Fri Feb 16 1990 15:1540
    Well,
    
    In my previous testimony, I gave background to the hideous actions
    of Crisp and his fiends, er, friends.
    
    It is well documented how ACCyst discredited my entry by listening
    to you and others.  He was all too willing to go along with you,
    although he never agrees with you on anything, Mr. Prosecutor.
    
    AH, of course, there was the infamous run off for the valuable t-shirt
    prize.  A prize that ACC built up, all the while getting ready to
    play a cruel joke.  
    
    After badgering me with mail, ACC finally sent me my 'prize'.
    
    When I got home from another long, long day at the office, and saw
    the package, I said "Alright, the shirt arrived, the contest wasn't
    a total loss, I many not be the biggest UNC fan around, but I don't
    own any baby blue shirts".
    
    I turned the package over to find it covered with a Tarheel bumper
    sticker.  Ha Ha, I thought.
    
    With anticipation, I opened the package, only to be overcome with
    a strange odor, and severe disappointment.  An obviously worn, used
    T-shirt, perhaps used by Onan himself, was in the package - it was
    RED, RED, RED, an Indiana Hoosier shirt, with BOB KNIGHT's #1 FAN
    printed on the back, but to make it worse, the shirt was defiled
    in unspeakable manners, including being covered with UNC Tarheel
    bumper stickers - making the prize unuable.  Another example of
    the twisted, crooked mind of ACCrips.
    
    Also, since this trial began, ACC and his psuedo-attorney, have
    sent me mail demanding my testimony so they could 'prepare'.  They
    wanted me to trust them that they wouldn't change anything.  Yeah,
    right.
    
    As for the contest, Cyst had the winner pre-crowned that's obvious.
    I mean he game points to dan for sincerity.  Now that was funny.
    JD
110.939JD, be honest. Can you picture *me* wearing it????RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 16 1990 15:219
    OBJECTION YER HONOR!!!!  That T-shirt was a virgin - never been worn. 
    My client would NEVER wear such a foul piece of clothing.
    
    Also I fail to understand why my attempted improvements to the shirt
    have yeilded it unwearable.  Please explain, JD.
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.940WOW!DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 16 1990 15:211
JJ
110.941Finally, something to rule onDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 16 1990 15:2517
>    OBJECTION YER HONOR!!!!  That T-shirt was a virgin - never been worn. 
>    My client would NEVER wear such a foul piece of clothing.


	Sorry, DADS - Objection overruled..  Jury disregard that remark..

    
>    Also I fail to understand why my attempted improvements to the shirt
>    have yeilded it unwearable.  Please explain, JD.

	JD is not under cross examination yet. Save the question for the 
appropriate time.

	Mr. Prosecutor, have you any further questions of this witness with
the huge lats?

JJ
110.942RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Fri Feb 16 1990 15:2814
    Your honor, and Mr. Prosecuter, 
    
    Let me add that also, in the days leading up to the end of this
    'contest', knowing I couldn't win with ACCgyps geographically rulings
    and defamation of my character, I started sending mail around to
    other folks in the contest, to ask about 'If I won,...."
    
    They all joked and said everyone was making deals, the contest was
    a shambles - I'm surprised the net didn't blow up.  Also, I heard
    that Dan had won, days before the contest ended.
    
    JD
    
    I hope I can take a break...
110.943LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Fri Feb 16 1990 15:2812
< Note 110.161 by RHETT::KNORR "Carolina Blue" >
>    A perfect score would be 64 points.  Just to show the possibilities,
>    the leader as of today has 49 points.  Some come on!  Enter today!! 
>    The Press Box is waiting for you!!!

    	This was entered before the nullified JD entry.
    It's obvious by this statement that ACC altered the results in favor
    of Dan since the highest score was *his* at 46?	
    	Care to comment on that ACC??  Who *really* had the score of
    49????  Enquiring minds want to know  8^)
    
    sean    
110.944PWRVAX::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Fri Feb 16 1990 15:452
       Obviously it was /Don who had the 49!
                                           Denny
110.945CUJO::JOHNSTONDen he slapped his haid CLEAN off!Fri Feb 16 1990 16:1241
Murmurs from the Jury:

	Say, things are starting to get interes...HEY! Where's everybody else?

	SHH. It's just you and me for right now.

	But ..but..but

	Just pay attention and pretend like there's more of us. Nobody'll
	notice. Change seats once in awhile.

	But..but..but

	Shh. They're behind the Jury box.

 [Hoarsely whispered shouts of encouragement are heard behind the jurors box]
		`C'mon Millie...GO  GO'
		`Faster Myrtle, Faster!'
		`Move it, you slut. Move it!'

	What the hell?!?!

	The others are having Cockroach races. We got the short straws, so we
	have to stay here and monitor the trial.

	I thought they were offering toothpicks, and said no.

	Well... that's how you lost.

	I've gotta see this..... Oh wow. Which one's Millie?

	I think she's got the yellow silks on. Sit back down here. I'll let you
	know who wins.

  [muffled shouts, thuds, curses and slaps are heard behind the Jurors box]

	What's happening now!!!

	Some kind of rule infraction, now the jockeys are fighting.

	oh.
110.947I'm glad sean ain't prosecuting this case. He's good.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 16 1990 16:3418
    Excellent point sean and since you're presenting testimony out of the
    witness stand I feel obligated to respond in kind.
    
    The answer to the apparent contradiction is simple.  I took all the
    entries that had already been entered and judged them at one time. 
    This was done several days prior to the contest deadline.  The leader
    at that point had 49 points and it was Dan's entry.
    
    However so many entries poured in after my initial judgement that I
    felt it was unfair to judge these seperately.  This is equivalent to a
    professor wanting to grade all essays at the same time for consistency
    sake.  After reevaluating all entries I apparently lowered my scales
    slightly.  Dan was still the leader, but this time at 46 points.
    
    You can call me a liar if you want, but this is the honest truth.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.948Cross-examination of JD underway.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 16 1990 16:3817
    Mr.Devlin, I'd first like to hear about the T-shirt is "unwearable".
    Could exapand on that, and also expand on how you considered your prize
    somehow less than what you expected??  What'd ya think you were
    getting, a custom fit designer shirt?
    
    Also JD, could you eleaborate on your true feelings on UNC basketball
    and ACC Chris specifically.
    
    Finally, in regards to the mail you were sending out to dry and drum up
    support for my altering the rules of The Contest, could tell us EXACTLY
    what kind of promises were made, what kind of deals were struck???
    
    
    Thank you,
    
    - Dean
    
110.949RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Fri Feb 16 1990 17:0222
    First Chris, er Deano, er shrunken...
    
    Well, whoever you are.
    
    My feelings on UNC basketball - while the Tarheels aren't my favorite
    team - that going to St. John's, I've been a huge fan of North Carolina
    players for years and years.  Bobby Jones was one of my all time
    favorites - in fact, I was the only one to mention Bobby in my
    entry, and Bobby is the consummate Dean Smith player.  I didn't
    merely state the obvious, like Onan did, anyone can gush over Jordan
    or Worthy, or in Onan's case, make up stuff about Sam Perkins.
    
    I've been a pro=Worthy person for years.  I judged Brad Daugherty
    as a force.  The only thing I
    don't like about UNC was the 4-corners, which I considered horrible.
    
    
    ACC CHris.  Nice guy.  Met him once.  
    
    I'll answer the rest later.  I have to go to a meeting
    
    JD
110.951but not till late Monday...TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Fri Feb 16 1990 17:112
    (oh Boy! only 49 to go to hit 1,000)
    
110.952Surprise defense witness will prove otherwise.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 16 1990 17:2426
    You are wrong MrT, and unfortunately for you the burden of proof 
    lies in your court, not mine.
    
    Oh, now I'm sure you'll throw in one of your typical bullsheet notes
    'bout how you do have proof, blah, blah, blah.  (If it weren't for
    sean, you wouldn't have even known about the 49 point comment, ya ill
    prepared (read "lazy") "public servant".  (Hah! to that thought.  I
    shudder to think folk like you are acting on *my* behalf.)
    
    Anyway you's got no proof and can't have any cause my explanation is
    true.  I'll be introducing a surprise witness later to collaborate this. 
    Someone who I didn't want to have to use.  Somebody I haven't even
    mentioned yet cause I didn't want ADA-T to try and pressure via bribes
    and other unfortunate tactics that he's already got a track record for. 
    Someone above reproach.  Someone who will prove beyond a shadow of a
    doubt that I am INNOCENT of these totally false and preposterous
    charges.  Someone who will hate like the dickens to have to take the
    stand, but who will do so cause I need him to and he knows the truth.
    It'll kill him, maybe even ruin him, but he's gonna take the stand. 
    And now I ain't sayin' who it is 'til a couple nano-seconds before he's
    sworn in.  Too risky with mafia-types like yourself around.
    
    
    Regards,
    
    - ACC Chris
110.953LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Fri Feb 16 1990 17:273
    [gulp!]... You mean JR_REID's gonna take the stand?  8^)
    
    sean
110.954CUJO::JOHNSTONDen he slapped his haid CLEAN off!Fri Feb 16 1990 18:124
	He said `above reproach'.

	I think he means former President Nixon will be taking the stand to
explain what he REALLY meant by the (unfortunate) advice he gave Mr. Crisp.
110.955JD admits to bribery. Joins Childs & DrM!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 16 1990 20:07144
Dean:	"Members of the jury, I hate to start picking apart JD's flimsy
	testimony already, what with him not having finished and all, but
	lies and falsehoods weigh heavily on me and I'm not prepared to
	carry them into tomorrow's must-win game against Maryland.

	Here's JD's testimony.  Word for word:
    
>    My feelings on UNC basketball - while the Tarheels aren't my favorite
>    team - that going to St. John's, I've been a huge fan of North Carolina
>    players for years and years.  Bobby Jones was one of my all time
>    favorites - in fact, I was the only one to mention Bobby in my
>    entry, and Bobby is the consummate Dean Smith player.  I didn't
>    merely state the obvious, like Onan did, anyone can gush over Jordan
>    or Worthy, or in Onan's case, make up stuff about Sam Perkins.
    
>    I've been a pro=Worthy person for years.  I judged Brad Daugherty
>    as a force.  The only thing I
>    don't like about UNC was the 4-corners, which I considered horrible.
 
Dean:	"Now the average jury member might gather from this that JD kinda
	likes the Heels.  In fact, he might even be led to believe he's
	a mild fan.

(Insert Dean giving a sly wink to the jury, then turning abruptly to face
 JD, who's kinda smiling thinking things are going well, but then GASPS
 in horror when he realizes he's about to be nailed with undeniable
 FACTS.)

Dean:	"Your honor, I'd like to introduce notes 110.221, 110.311, 110.330,
	and 110.357 as exhibits.

Judge:	"SO ENTERED!"

Dean:	"For those of you who might not have the time to read all of these
	I'll introduce a few choice exerpts.  (And BTW, I encourage all of
	you to go back and read these notes in their delicious entirety!)

	First from 110.221:

           <<< OURGNG::SYS$SYSDEVICE:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SPORTS.NOTE;1 >>>
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Note 110.221                        THE TRIAL                         221 of 954
RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO "Attacked by gnats!"                9 lines  24-JAN-1990 18:03
                            -< Where is Al Cote?? >-
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    I still am reeling over h'awks note.  first, he panders by playing
    his child card as a way to steal the contest.  Then, he badmouths
    Dean.  Now, he indicts me on blatently false charges, and starts
    calling me Milhouse.  Why?  At least /Don has remained honest
    and full of integrity, as a true blue TarHell should!

*****************************************************************************

Dean:	"This is, of course, the infamous TarHell "typo" (heh heh!) that cost
	JD the Title.  I picked up on it right away and recognized it as a
	probable Freudian slip, but was willing to let it rest.  MrT
	saw through JD's sinister entry and correctly pointed out to
	me that JD was a wolf in sheep's clothing.  MrT was right, as we	
	shall soon see!

	From Note 110.311:

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RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO "FlimFlamMan,A.Freed,ACCYST"       23 lines  26-JAN-1990 16:21
                              -< FOUL, A FIX!!! >-
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What a sham.  What a travesty.  What a fix.  Typical from the ACC, though,
considering they've brought us Clemson, Jim Valvano, and Mr. Underachiever,
the ugly bridesmaid himself, Dean Smif, the man who constantly dives for the 
bouquet at the wedding, but never does get axed to stand in the center
of the alter.  That's reserved for the beauties, both inward and outward,
like Bobby Knight.

As MrT has said, however, I did receive some solance.  I acted in my best
ACC manner.  I lied.  I tried to bribe /Don, Hawk, and Denny, and yet
if MrT hadn't stood on his morals to expose me, I would've won.  And
since it was an ACC note directed at Dean, I can revel in that feel
of an excellent loss.

I eagerly await my T-shirt.   I have plans.

JD

**************************************************************************

(Insert sound of jury GASPING and simultaneously shifting their eyeballs
 onto JD, who's trying to act invisible without success.)

Dean:	"This pretty much puts to rest the issue of JD's credibility,
	not to mention how much he was deserving to win the Contest.
	Let's see now, this is the THIRD prosecution witness who's been
	nailed on a bribery charge.  (Mike Childs and DrM were the other
	two, in case you're losing track, fine jury.)
	
	But there's more!

From 110.330:

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RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO "Tarhells,Dean:==Broncos"          17 lines  29-JAN-1990 14:04
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

*****************************************************************************

Dean:	"Comparing UNC with the Broncos?????  Doesn't sound too complimentary
	to me, at least given the date stamp on the note!  And notice the
	reinforcement of the "Tarhell" remark!

	And finally, from 110.357:

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RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO "DeanSmif - mediocrity personified" 5 lines   1-FEB-1990 08:38
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dean:	"Calling me, a HoF legend, "mediocre"?  Sounds more like something
	Cappel would say, don't it?  Not exactly the voice of a UNC fan.
	Not exactly the talk of an ACC clone.  Not exactly the sound of a 
	deserving Contest Winner.

	Please continue your testimony though JD.  I'm sure we'll here
	some more good yarns!!  Hah!!!!!


(Insert Dean turning back to his desk and slapping his volumes of legal
 documents down in an impressive display.  The jury is looking at JD
 with contempt and discust.  ADA-T is looking at JD with a "But you didn't
 tell me this!", which again points to his lazy investigative work and
 failure to find all the available evidence.)


- Dean

    
110.956Finally, some progress!DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 16 1990 20:4824

	DADS, may I remind you that Dr. Midnight, Mike Childs and
JD ARE NOT on trial here. Jury, get out from behind ..I said GET OUT
from behind the jury box and pay attention! Bailiff, whack their pee-pees!

	(turns to DADS)
	Please refrain from accusing witnesses, and stick to the point.
Your client is on trial here, not those who have been called before 
the bench as witnesses. 

	If you have no further questions of this witness, I will give
the prosecutor one last chance to call Dr. Midnight to the witness
stand. If the prosecutor waives this opportunity indicated by a reply
to this note, we will proceed to calling witnesses for the defense.

	Given the lateness of the hour, court is adjourned until
Monday morning, except of course, for the witt commentary that keeps
this topice a cut above..

	(BANG! BANG! BANG!)

	COURT IS ADJOURNED!
JJ
110.957RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Fri Feb 16 1990 21:116
    Hey Accyst,
    
    I ain't on trial.  And besides, I only noted that way due to the
    extreme mental anguish that this hoax put me through.
    
    JD
110.958It *IS* relevant judge. Perjury is a *serious* offense.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeSat Feb 17 1990 23:2927
    Dean:	"Judge, regardless of whether or not JD is no trial or not, 
    		there's that little matter of PERJURY, no?  JD clearly 
    		perjured himself when he stated he was a UNC fan.  I
    		think I've supplied ample proof of that.  
    
    		"What's it matter?  Two reasons.  One, his credibility in
    		regards to allegations against my client should be
    		considered in light of the fact that he's a convicted
    		perjurer.  And second, I find it more than a little 
    		ironic that I've cross-examined 4 people so far.  3 have
    		been blatantly caught offering bribes (DrM, JD, & Childs).
    		The fourth (Dan) had a bribe offered to *him* by the 
    		Ass't DA!  
    
    		Amazingly enough, my client, on trial for similar charges,
    		hasn't had a darn thing proven against him!
    
    (Insert Dean shaking his head sadly and muttering under his breath ...)
    
    		What a joke."
    
    
    - Dean
    
    
    	
    
110.959Rhetoric +DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceSun Feb 18 1990 14:2634
>    Dean:	"Judge, regardless of whether or not JD is no trial or not, 
>    		there's that little matter of PERJURY, no?  JD clearly 
>    		perjured himself when he stated he was a UNC fan.  I
>    		think I've supplied ample proof of that.  
	DADS, we are not here to try anyone for perjury. The charges are clearly
defined as they pertain to your client. It is your OPINION the JD perjured
himself, no more, no less.
    
>    		"What's it matter?  Two reasons.  One, his credibility in
>    		regards to allegations against my client should be
>    		considered in light of the fact that he's a convicted
>    		perjurer.  And second, I find it more than a little 
>    		ironic that I've cross-examined 4 people so far.  3 have
>    		been blatantly caught offering bribes (DrM, JD, & Childs).
>    		The fourth (Dan) had a bribe offered to *him* by the 
>    		Ass't DA! 
	Again, your opinion on perjury, sir. The Prosecuting attorney is
also not on trial here. 
    
>    		Amazingly enough, my client, on trial for similar charges,
>    		hasn't had a darn thing proven against him!

	This, again is your opinion, which should be saved for closing remarks.
It is not up to me to judge, but to assure that everyone gets their
turn at providing evidence and questioning witnesses. The jury, which will
judge, is instructed to ignore that last remark by DADS.
    
>    (Insert Dean shaking his head sadly and muttering under his breath ...)
    
>    		What a joke."
    
    ENOUGH of that! The Prosecutor has until Noon Monday to determine if
he will elicit more questions from JD or Dr. Midnight!
JJ
110.960FRSBEE::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSMon Feb 19 1990 12:391
    I'll be available between 11:30-12:15 ....
110.963I do sir(s).EARRTH::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSMon Feb 19 1990 16:341
    
110.964DrM logs in, waits 2 hours for 1st question. YAWN.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeMon Feb 19 1990 17:1510
    Judge McFail, I humbly request that this trial be declared a mistrial
    on grounds of the guarantee by the Constitution that the accused be
    given a "fair and speedy" trial.
    
    This thing hasn't been close to fair, and it sure ain't been speedy.
    
    Thanks you Judge.
    
    
    - Dean
110.965getting restless....MAMIE::WENTZELLThe things I like, I try twiceMon Feb 19 1990 17:2621
From the jury:

"Hey, what's that yer reading?"

"It's the new Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue...whooaaa, check out
the bod on her!!"

"You can't read that here, that bailiff dude will come over here and wack
your peepee right off!!  Here, you'd better let me hold onto it.."

"...hey, you jerk, gimme...that...back..."

"...no, I said....I'll...take it...for you <uummmmppph>"

"...<rrrrrgh>...gimme....THAT....BACK!!!"

RRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPP!!!

"Ohhh, great!  Now look what you di....oh sh!t, here comes the bailiff, quick
hide that thing!!!"
110.966SASE::SZABOMon Feb 19 1990 17:3410
    Bailiff:  Sr. Mary Elephant, would you care to have the honor of
    	      whacking these 2 juror's naughty peepee's?
    
    Sr. Mary: Why, I'll whack those naughty peepee's alright!
    
    Bailiff:  Thaaaaaaaank you, Sr.!  (heh heh heh)
    
    Bailiff walks into back room with torn magazine in hand, to look for
    the scotch tape, of course.......
    
110.967Wheels of justice often move slowlyDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceMon Feb 19 1990 17:5114
>    Judge McFail, I humbly request that this trial be declared a mistrial
>    on grounds of the guarantee by the Constitution that the accused be
>    given a "fair and speedy" trial.
    
>    This thing hasn't been close to fair, and it sure ain't been speedy.
    
	DADS, motion denied. It's every noters right to note when time
and work allow, not before. Also, you will get your turn to present
evidence. Be a little more patient. And Bailiff, when you finish the tape
job, get that magazine up here!

	Mr. Prosecutor, you may ask questions of the witness..

JJ
110.969OBJECTION! OBJECTION!!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeMon Feb 19 1990 18:3116
    Objection to the term "trash", Judge McFail.  
    
    BTW - I'm a little suspicious of the wheelchair being used by
    	  ADA-T, yer Honor.  I mean, the guy started the trial 
    	  standing, and now all of a sudden he needs a chair?!  What'd
          he get paralyzed in the middle of the trial and not even
          need a hospital stay??!
    
    	  Judge, we suspect this a not-so subtle ploy being used by
          the Assistant DA to garner pity from the jury and DEMAND
          it be REMOVED from the courtroom.
    
    
    - Dean
    
    
110.970hrumph, I say, HRUMPHRIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Mon Feb 19 1990 18:369
    Hey Chris - you didn't prove that I'm not a UNC fan - but at least
    I was honest in my answer, unlike Onan.   Ain't no doubt that many
    of my favorite ball-players have worn tarheel blue.  And like I
    said, the only thang I dislike about Deano is his inventing the
    4-corner offense - but we all make mistakes.
    
    HRUMPH
    
    JD
110.9711'000 beckons!RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Mon Feb 19 1990 18:394
    29 notes to go, 29 npotes to go, take one down, write it in,
    one less note to go...
    
    Sarge
110.972RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Mon Feb 19 1990 18:5225
    Yeha, I sweat to tell the troof.
    
    Anyway, back to ACChrisss  and his questions:
    
    The shirt was unwearable due to the bumperstickers all over it,
    which rendered it unusable - and it shure looked like it had been
    used - perhaps the 'winners' got to it first.
    
    As for your extraction of notes - yes, notice the date stamps -
    after you had shamed me, after you had destroyed my creditbility
    by discrediting my entry.  Nay, AccChrisssssssssssss, it twas you
    who slithered down the path of evil, whilst I was drawn into deceit
    by your underhanded dealings!!!!
    
    And, you say that my entry on my like of UNC hoop isn't correct,
    and shows I don't like the Tarheeels, yet it reads much like Dan's
    winning entry!!!!
    
    Hah!
    
    I now step down, and have to leave for the day.   It's Washington's
    birthday, the man this state is named after, so I gots to go and
    do the patriotic thing and find some cherry, er tree.
    
    JD ;-)
110.973LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Mon Feb 19 1990 18:556
    
>        Yeha, I sweat to tell the troof.
             
    	Wow, it'll be easy to tell when you're lying then!  8^)
    
    sean
110.975PFSVAX::JACOBBut I don't like spamMon Feb 19 1990 19:3210
    re.969
    
    Sort of like a cross between Matlock and Ironsides, but without a case,
    HUH???
    
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
110.976LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSMon Feb 19 1990 19:373
    MrT, the text is distorted and false. I made no serious bribe offer
    to Chris and Dean. My entries into the contest should be proof positive
    that I had no illusions or desires about winning the so-called contest.
110.977RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeMon Feb 19 1990 19:5310
    (Insert sight of Dean leaping out of his seat upon hearing yet another
     bald faced lie pour forth from Baby Doc's mouth)
    
    Dean:	DOCTOR MIDNIGHT, ARE YOU TELLING US THAT YOU NEVER SENT
    		ACC CHRIS A MAIL MESSAGE OFFERING TO BUY THE TICKETS???
    
    		ANSWER THE QUESTION DOCTOR.
    
    
    
110.978don't worry, I had 6 glasses of OJ todayTOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Tue Feb 20 1990 11:379
    
    (turning to the juror sitting next to him)
    
    "How much ya wanna bet that if that guy Noriega
    ever gets to trial, it'll move quicker than THIS one?
    Sheesh, we're into our third week and these clowns
    are still doing their introductory dart throwing!"  ;^)
    
    
110.979A day in the life of a juror...MAMIE::WENTZELLThe things I like, I try twiceTue Feb 20 1990 12:1910
"Yeah, but look at this...that bailiff dude thought he wacked me good
 but I got another copy..."

"WOW!!!  Look at that!  Hey, if anyone tries to take this one we stop them
 at all costs, right?"

"Yep, that's right.  Gee, I dunno who I like better, Kathy or Elle..."

"Shhhhh, hide it, hide it!"

110.981Be creative McFail.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 13:087
    Yur honor McFail, given the slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww goings of the
    sham, er trial, what say I commence with my defense.  I've got a slew
    of witnesses to call and maybe up-tempo this slow down game.
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.982Whatchawaitinfor?DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceTue Feb 20 1990 15:3610
>    Yur honor McFail, given the slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww goings of the
>    sham, er trial, what say I commence with my defense.  I've got a slew
>    of witnesses to call and maybe up-tempo this slow down game.
    
    
    By all means, DADS, please commence with the defense. 

	JJ
    

110.983Defense calling its first witness.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 15:3718
Dean:	Defense calls Mr. John "O" Hendry to the stand!  

(Insert sight of Mr. Hendry strolling through the doors in his 
 usual humble manner.  The courtroom is abuzz. Eyes are straining
 to watch every detail of the renowned Mr. Hendry as he approaches
 the stand and swears himself in.)

Dean:	"Mr. Hendry, you're perhaps the most highly respected individual
 	in OURGNG.  Your integrity is above reproach.  Your objective
	nature beyond question.  Your sports mind and memory is legendary.
    
        Tell us if you will about ACC Chris.  Tell us what you know
    	about him as a person, and tell us anything of relevance you 
    	may know about his Contest.


- Dean
    
110.984Da Troof, Da Whole TroofFSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Feb 20 1990 15:4439
I have known Chris for about a year since the time I found him working in my
building.  I have found Chris to be a man of the utmost honor, highest inte-
grity, a committed Christian and he is a good husband and father.  He does
chew tobacco occasionally but I don't hold that against him.  After all, he 
*DID* go to school on Tobacco Road.

Chris was extremely disappointed to not be able to go to the game and cheer
on his hero, JR Reid.  He devised the contest and put it into the conference.

I know this contest has been honestly run.  To my knowledge, Chris solicited no
bribes in order to determine the winner.  Chris routinely shared mail he was 
getting from contest entrants.  I no longer have this mail, but in all cases, 
people were offering him bribes in order to give the tickets dishonestly.  Chris
resisted all temptation and gave the tickets to the man with the entry he judged
to be best, Dan Schneider.

Chris showed me the Final Four entries and asked me my opinion.  Since this is a
subjective judging, my rankings came out differently than his - but not by much.
It was hard for me to judge, since I have been personally acquainted with 3 of
the four finalists.  I found JD's entry to be both funny and creative and I'd
have given him the award based on that.  I found Mr. Ross' entry to be somewhat
hypocritical, based on his well-known dislike for James "Jimmy Clang" Worthy.
I was neutral to the Slasher.  I found Dan's entry to be very objective but to
an extent, shameless pandering.  But, since Chris' objective was to give the
award to the most pro-Carolina entry, and since Dan's was about as pro-Carolina
as you could get, I believe he fulfilled the objective of the contest.

In conclusion, I believe this contest was run and won fairly and squarely, tho
I disagree with the results.  Then again, I've been well-documented as a non-
Carolina fan due to some past transgressions against my alma mater.  My entry
had no chance of winning.

Rather than standing among us accused, Chris should be hailed as a rock of in-
tegrity in the middle of a den of snakes.

Thank you, your honor.

John Hendry
    
110.985Why'd ya have to tell 'em about the chew?RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 15:547
    (Insert "Oohs" and "Aaahs" from the courtroom after this impressive
     testimony.)
    
    Dean:  	"No further questions for Mr. Hendry your honor."
    
    
    - Dean
110.986Will this all end now?SASE::SZABOTue Feb 20 1990 15:575
    Mr. Hendry, if I find out that ACChris has in some way, shape, or form
    paid you to write that, I'ma gonna lay on you one serious peepee
    whacking!
    
    Haw'k
110.987FSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Feb 20 1990 16:137
    I received no payment for writing that.  That is honest and true
    testimony, without coercion, without bribery of any sort.  Hawk,
    you should know that my integrity is above reproach, other than
    the Bill Curley fake press release.  I'm also ready for any cross
    examination questions that Mr Shaughnessy cares to ask me.
    
    John 
110.989We're moving nowDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceTue Feb 20 1990 17:1611
>    OBJECTION your honor !!
    
>    No WAY cain we admit "evidence" such as Hendry's speculative statement
>    that the contest was honestly run.  

	Objection sustained! Jury will disregard Mr. Hendry's remark on
how the contest was run. That is purely an opinion you must determine
on your own...

	Proceed with calling the next witness!
JJ
110.990WHAT?????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 17:4112
    WHAT A CROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    McFail, how the *H-E-double-hockey-sticks* can you disregard Hendry's 
    testimony when he had inside knowledge of the Contest via mail messages 
    I sent him???????????  His testimony is most definitely relevant and
    his opinion *CRUCIAL* to my defense.  How better can I prove the
    Contest was on the up-and-up than by having someone who knew what was
    going on behind-the-scenes give testimony????????????????
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.991Judge McFail: The Don King of OURGNG. :^(RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 17:4515
    Judge, if you disallow John Hendry's testimony I might as well rest my
    case.  Might as well kick me out now - I don't even need to wait for
    the jury.  I'm innocent, but this thing is obviously rigged to give me
    ZERO chance.
    
    Consider me a RoN until *YOU* change course 180 degrees on your poor
    decision.
    
    It's sad when the testimony of someone of "O" Hendry's prestige is
    struck down.  Sad, but oh-so-typical of this sham of a trial.
    
    
    - Dean
    
    
110.992DADS has trouble reading, it appears..DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceTue Feb 20 1990 17:5716
>    Judge, if you disallow John Hendry's testimony I might as well rest my
>    case.  Might as well kick me out now - I don't even need to wait for
>    the jury.  I'm innocent, but this thing is obviously rigged to give me
>    ZERO chance.
    
	DADS, I merely had the jury disregard John Hendry's remark that in
his opinion the contest was on the up-and-up. I said nothing of the rest
of his testimony! His opinion is just that, an opinion, and should be dis-
regarded by the jury. It is their opinion that will decide things in this
court. The rest of Mr. Hendry's testimony stands...

	Please call your next witness!

JJ
    

110.994LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Tue Feb 20 1990 18:048
    
    	On behalf of ACChris, I do have to say that I found nothing
    wrong with John's testimony.  His opinion of the contest was an
    affirmation of ACChris's statements that the contest was on the
    up and up.  Why shouldn't he be allowed to express his opinion of
    the contest since he was directly involved in it?
            
    sean
110.995No more witnesses 'til the entire testimony is allowed!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 18:0612
    But that's my whole point McFarce.  His *OPINION* is of the utmost
    importance.  He's a man of integrity.  He's a man of knowledge.  He's a
    man who knew what was going on behind-the-scenes.  His opinion is VERY
    important and there's no reason it shouldn't stand.
    
    Huff, huff, huff, huff ....  (Insert sight of Dean grabbing the ole
    				  ticker as he heads back to his desk.)
    
    
    - Dean
    
    
110.996FSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Feb 20 1990 18:064
    I was directly involved in the contest, I know it was fair and I
    feel insulted by my former running mate for NOTY.
    
    John
110.997LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Tue Feb 20 1990 18:115
    
    	It is an outrage... You can't strike someone's statement from
    the record because it is OPINION!!  Hahahahhahaha!!!
    
    sean
110.998LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Tue Feb 20 1990 18:1913
>	Objection sustained! Jury will disregard Mr. Hendry's remark on
> how the contest was run. That is purely an opinion you must determine
> on your own...
  
    	Your Honor, how can the Jury make a fair decision if it is not
    allowed to listen to the opinions of both sides?  John's testimony
    is evidence that supports the idea that ACChris's contest was not
    crooked.  If his entire testimony is not allowed to stand than you
    have already prejudged that the contest was indeed a sham and the
    admission of opinions incompatible with that should not be allowed
    because the jury might just believe them.  Please reconsider.
    
    sean 
110.999COOKIE::MJOHNSTONKeep on keepin' on!Tue Feb 20 1990 18:2158
110.1001Hey Steven, Congrats on reply #1000!STAR::YANKOWSKASPaul YankowskasTue Feb 20 1990 18:311
    
110.1002LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Tue Feb 20 1990 18:334
    	Where is the *judge* anyways?  QUICK!  Check all flights to
    Disneyworld!
    
    sean
110.1003HEURIS::METZGERI will not Instigate RevolutionTue Feb 20 1990 18:3412
    
    How could jHendry be comparing the final 4 if JD's entry was in it ?
    
    Based on ACCyst's geographical limits put on the "context" (tm)
    Jd was disallowed from winning...How could he have been in the
    final four then ?
    
    Inquiring minds want to know.....
    
    
    John
    
110.1005LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Tue Feb 20 1990 18:5113
>    2. A T-Shirt.  This (IMO) is the most valuable prize.  It was presented
>       to me by my Westboro SPORTS cronies.  I kind of consider it a
>       SPORTS heirloom.  Guard it well, ye who wins it.  The winner of this
>       will be the highest finisher beyond the geographic boundaries of
>       Boston Garden.
 
    	re: .1003 
    
    	this should clear things up.  Being out of the geography did
    not exclude one from the contest, only the tix.  This is how JD
    made the final four.
    
    sean
110.1006Valid question Metz. Here's what happened.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 19:0623
    Close sean, but not quite.  I had to go back to the fateful Contest Day
    (Jan-26-1990) and read through my mail to remember exactly what
    happened.  Here's the chronology:
    
    1. Early in the morning I sent J Hendry my Final 4 and ask him his
       opinion.  
    
    2. Metz sends me his "Gilligan's Island" entry via e-mail, because
       OURGNG was down.  When OURGNG comes back up he officially enters
       it in 110.
    
    3. I judge the entry by Mr. Metz sufficient to make my Final 4, 
       bouncing JD out, since he had been in my #4 spot.
    
    4. J Hendry, who was unaware of the Metz entry (because OURGNG was
       down) sends me mail saying he didn't think any of the entries
       were that great, but that he kinda liked JD's the best.
    
    There you have it.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.1007VIEW3D::MACGREGORTue Feb 20 1990 19:0815
    To help clear up a little confusion.
    
    This is a trial by jury.  This means the jury decides the verdict,
    if the judge doesn't like it that's too bad because he must stick
    with the verdict.  Also, just because the judge proclaims something
    unadmissable because of some reason doesn't mean the jurors have
    to listen to it.  Basically each juror will make up their own mind
    as to whether Chris is guilty or not and express their own decision.
    If this is based on 'striken from the record' stuff, then that is
    too bad.
    
    As a juror, I would appreciate more fact and less mud slinging,
    this isn't running for the presidentcy you know. 8^)
    
    The Wizard
110.1008MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Tue Feb 20 1990 19:1022
    
    "Excuse me, fellas.  I got stuck in traffic."
    
    "For four days?"
    
    "Well..., anyway did I miss anything?"
    
    "Yeah.  The DA flopped over there in the go-cart said 'He did it'
    and then the defense guy said 'My client did not' and then the DA
    said 'but he said' and then the defense guy said 'No he didn't say
    that, but you said that he said that, and that what you heard is
    not what anyone said," and then the DA said 'I didn't say that I
    heard you say that you heard someone say that I heard you say what
    you said. What I said was what I hope you heard I said...'"
    
    "Awright, already! Couldn't you have just answered 'No, you didn't
    miss a goddamm thing.'  Sheesh....here, pass this down. It'll help
    us all get through this.  And don't anyone drop that flask. It was
    my grandfathers and he used it in the Scopes Trial."
    
    -Dick
    
110.1009Plenty of facts. Just too much ADA-T obfuscation. :^(RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 19:1324
>    He, in effect, axes us to judge his motives and not the substantive
>    evidence written in ACCrook's OWN hand, and conceded by him.
    
Not at all, ADA-T.  Motives are impossible to prove.  The fact that I
was joking around with Mike Childs and DrM can be neither proven nor
disproven.  

What I want (read DEMAND) is that my actions be judged by the RESULTS.  
These *can* be proven.  They're documented FACT.  And here they are:

1. I held a contest and posted the rules, the reward being 2 press passes
   I won from Steve Nazzaro.

2. I judged the Contest and picked my winner.

3. I asked the winner if he'd consider taking the 2nd place finisher,
   which he agreed to do.

These are FACTS.  Everything else you have against me is sheer speculation.
And untrue speculation at that.


- ACC Chris
    
110.1010DADS, now get going already...DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceTue Feb 20 1990 19:1918
110.1011SASE::SZABOTue Feb 20 1990 19:236
    Looks like I cain go ahead and warm up the ol' peepee whacker!  Good
    thing I gots new batteries today........alkaline's even!
    
    Someone's peepee is gonna be awefully sorry.......
    
    H'awk
110.1012Allrighty Judge McFail. Metz to the stand!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 19:2613
    Dean:	"Defense calls Mr. John Metzger to the stand!"
    
    (After being sworn in, please answer these questions John.)
    
    Dean:	"Mr. Metzger, could you tell the court your TRUE
    		feelings on UNC basketball.  After doing so, would
    		you please confirm when and how your contest entry
    		was made.  And finally John, could you tell the
    		court ANY *factual* information you may have regarding
    		illegalities carried out by Mr. ACC Chris."
    
    
    - Dean
110.1013Et Tu Hendry?AXIS::ROBICHAUDSkiing,Soccer,Quiche,LimpWristsTue Feb 20 1990 19:361
    
110.1014We need something to shoot for, Judge.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 19:3913
    Judge McFake, I wonder if there's anyway we could shoot for a judgement
    by this Friday.  I know this is aggressive, but I should have all my
    witnesses presented by then at the latest.  Plus I'll be on vacation
    from Monday (2/26) thru Thursday (3/1).  
    
    I think all cross-examination can be finished by Thursday afternoon,
    closing arguments presented Friday morning, and a judgement rendered by
    Friday afternoon.
    
    What say ye, yer Excellency?
    
    
    - Dean
110.1015/Don, might as well get ready. RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 19:4217
    Dean:	Judge, to speed things along, I'd like to call /Don to 
    		the stand while we're waiting for Metz.
    
    		After swearing yourself in slasher Don, please answer 
    		two (2) simple questions.  Namely:
    		
    		1. What are your true feelings on UNC basketball?
    
    		- and -
    
    		2. Do you have any reason to believe, any factual
    		   evidence to present, that indicates ACC Chris
    		   carried out this contest in a dishonest fashion?
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.1016RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Tue Feb 20 1990 19:5011
    What good does it do to ask foklks their \true' tfeelings about
    UNC hoop?  You don't believe anything they say anyway!
    
    I know I have more respect for the Heels than Onan did, but you
    still think he's the truer fan - and hell, you worked a deal for
    a guy who *HATES* the tarheels to go along with Onan.  Man, you
    are one twisted dude....
    
    Sarge
    
    
110.1017Proceed ye, with all due hasteDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceTue Feb 20 1990 19:5118
>    Judge McFake, I wonder if there's anyway we could shoot for a judgement
>    by this Friday.  I know this is aggressive, but I should have all my
>    witnesses presented by then at the latest.  Plus I'll be on vacation
>    from Monday (2/26) thru Thursday (3/1).  
    
>    I think all cross-examination can be finished by Thursday afternoon,
>    closing arguments presented Friday morning, and a judgement rendered by
>    Friday afternoon.
    
>    What say ye, yer Excellency?
    
 	DADS, we can certainly shoot for that, but, remember closing remarks
have to presented, and I have a feeling that they may take awhile :^)

	Yes, you can call both witnesses to the stand, this has been
done before :^)

	JJ
110.1018AXIS::ROBICHAUDSkiing,Soccer,Quiche,LimpWristsTue Feb 20 1990 19:5625
    Dean:	Judge, to speed things along, I'd like to call /Don to 
    		the stand while we're waiting for Metz.
    
    		After swearing yourself in slasher Don, please answer 
    		two (2) simple questions.  Namely:
    		
	IsweartotellthetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruthsohelpmeGod
							      ^^^^^^^^^^^
	Just so's youse guys don't go thinking I'm a commie or sumthin...

>    		1. What are your true feelings on UNC basketball?

 			Luv them Heels   

>    		- and -
    
>    		2. Do you have any reason to believe, any factual
>    		   evidence to present, that indicates ACC Chris
>    		   carried out this contest in a dishonest fashion?
    
 		Well Cyst, either MikeC was a lyin' or you faked him
		out better then ol' Michael Jordan ever could.  And
		I cain't see either of them happenin'
    
    				/Don
110.1019RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeTue Feb 20 1990 20:0815
    SHADUP JD, you ain't no attorney.  BTW - I do have one follow-up
    question for you.  You stated that the T-shirt was rendered
    "unwearable" because of the stickers I put on them.  WELL WHY THE HEY
    CAN'T YA JUST PULL THE STICKERS OFF?????
    
    Thank you /Don for your somewhat terse answers.  If I may follow up on
    your "Luv dem Heels" remark though, would you mind expanding a little? 
    Exactly when did you starting loving them?  What do you think of 
    me (Dean)?  Who's your favorite college basketball team?
    
    
    - Dean
    
    
    
110.1020RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Tue Feb 20 1990 20:1410
    Hey listen fake Dean - illegal entrant on the Digital Net - why
    was it rendered unwearable - well first, ACCyst - you ever try to
    peel them things off?  Rips the shirt to shreds, and 2, being a
    UNC fan, how could I peel them off?  Kinda uncool, no.  In fack
    (tm) it was kind of fishy for a UNC 'fan', who says the shirt was
    , and I quote, 'the most valuable prize', was an Indiana Hoosier
    shirts!  So Deano, er Chrisssssss, you must be a HOOSIER FAN, therefore
    you be a fake UNC fan!  Run circles round you logically!
    
    JD
110.1021AXIS::ROBICHAUDSkiing,Soccer,Quiche,LimpWristsTue Feb 20 1990 20:1715
>    Thank you /Don for your somewhat terse answers.  If I may follow up on
>    your "Luv dem Heels" remark though, would you mind expanding a little? 
>    Exactly when did you starting loving them? 

		When they beat Kansas and their 7 ft. Goliath Wilt.

>    What do you think of me (Dean)?

	I think you're a fraud Cyst.  I think Dean's a great coach.

>    Who's your favorite college basketball team?
    
  	Slippery Rock

				/Don  
110.1023FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Feb 20 1990 23:3614
    To the best of knowldge, this contest was run fairly.  And, /Don,
    I say that in all honesty, not in any sense of betrayal, as your
    "Et tu" remark would indicate.  I cannot be bought.
    
    And for all you legal beagles out there - if ACC Chris is acquited,
    since this is a criminal case, the prosecution has no right of appeal
    and ACC Chris can never be tried on these charges again.  ACC Chris
    is the only person who has the right of appeal and that can occur
    if he's convicted.  Chris is protected under the principle of Double
    Jeopardy.
    
    John
    
    
110.1024Regurgitated garbage is all.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 00:169
    All those film clips prove nothing.  They were made in the spirit of
    humor with various parties, none of whom in my wildest dreams would
    turn on me in such an ugly and unseemly fashion.  I'm innocent, and my
    contest winner proves it.
    
    You've got nothing on me.  NOTHING!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.1025Your witness Assistant DA-T.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 00:2117
    Thanks for your stirring testimony /Don.  If I may paraphrase your
    answers to the two (2) questions:
    
    Dean:	"State your true feelings regarding UNC."
    
    /Don:	"Love dem pre-Dean Heels, but Slippery Rock (?) is
    		my favorite college team."
    
    Dean:	"Do you know of any illegalities carried out by ACC Chris?"
    
    /Don:	"No, sept I'm suspicious of his conversations with Mike
    		Childs."
    
    Dean:	"Thank you /Don.  You may step down."
    
    
    - Dean
110.1026STRATA::CAPPELMcGovern,Mondale,Dukakis,SmifWed Feb 21 1990 11:091
    You no a man's lost when he has to forge a witness's testimony.....
110.1027Not a forge. Just a summary.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 11:472
    
    
110.1028Cyst, you should be a sportswriter...AXIS::ROBICHAUDSkiing,Soccer,Quiche,LimpWristsWed Feb 21 1990 13:211
    
110.1030my replies to the questions from ChrisHEURIS::METZGERI will not Instigate RevolutionWed Feb 21 1990 13:35137
110.1031Let the witness decide if the summation is accurateDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Feb 21 1990 13:378
>    OBJECTION Your Worshipfulness!
    
	If the witness has no objection to this summation of the testimony,
then it shall stand

	/Don, do you wish to change any part of the summation is question?

JJ
110.1032Summation withdrawn. (But point made.)RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 13:476
    Your honor, I withdraw my /Don summation.  No further questions for
    the (back) slasher.
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.1033Will call my next witness, unless ADA-T wishes to cross-examineRHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 14:095
    Thank you Metz.  No further questions.  
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.1034RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Wed Feb 21 1990 14:579
    Thanks Metz, for putting in ONan's 'winning entry'.
    
    Let's see, Dano got points for being pro-JR - heck he mentions him
    ONCE, and not in praise at all!!!
    ANd the end of it illustrates how Onan buttered ACC up with past
    favors and alchoholic beverages.  Hmm.  If this contest wasn't rigged,
    then Don KIng has a nice hairdo!
    
    Sarge
110.1036Defense resting until 2:30.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 15:397
    Defense will be calling Mr. Steve Nazzaro to the stand at 2:30 EST,
    your honor. 
    
    
    - Dean
    
    
110.1037AXIS::ROBICHAUDDoes Trump like Maple syrup?Wed Feb 21 1990 15:4332
>    (buzzes up to Mr. Rochibaud in wheelchair)
    
>    Mr. Rochibaud, such a beautiful Gallic nom de plumb!, ain't it true
>    that you were aware that...
    
>    (intentionally breaks wind beneath blanket covering paralyzed limbs)
                               
>    ... was involved in his stinky dealings with the good Mike Childs?
    
>    Please explain, step-by-step, how you heard that...
    
>    (another, but louder)
    
>    ... these furtive sordid negotiations were progressing, whom you
>    got the information from, how, and so on.
    
>    Also, could you please re-state your beliefs as they were
>    misrepresented by Crooked Chris' jive-bull so-called "summation."
                                                        
>    (sits erect in wheelchair awaiting answer)


	Like I said before Mr. District Attorney, when I saw that note
indicating Cyst was waiting for a "special favor" I sent mail to Mike
asking him what kind of brown nosing he was doing.  That's when Mike
told me about his sibling's search for Cyst's ACC Tournament tickets.
And, like I originally stated I didn't believe MikeC was lying or Cyst
was a leadin' him on.  Since I've said the same thing 3 times now I would
like to be excused so's I cain take the lovely Miss Bundy to my place and
look at my etchings.

				/Don
110.1039Couple of improprieties at work here.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 16:0613
    Judge McFlop, I'd like to protest the shameless use of ADA-T's
    wheelchair.  This thing's getting to be a little much.  I say we pick
    the lug up by the seat of his pants and throw him off your High Bench
    judge.  10 to 1 he lands on his feet.
    
    One other thing yer honor.  Since MrT is still on probation from his
    prior offense (convicted forgerer), doesn't this make him ineligible to
    be a lawyer?!  Especially one for the state!  I'd like a ruling on
    this your judgeship.
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.1040RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOMill bound in 12 hours...Wed Feb 21 1990 16:109
    From the gallery:
    
    Siddown Dean, you ain't even supposed to be on the net!  geezz.
    
    The gals are getting restless, Thersites has disappeared, the jurors
    all look like them cardboard cut-out thingies.
    Strange days indeed...
    
    Sarge
110.1041RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOMill bound in 12 hours...Wed Feb 21 1990 16:117
    Also, Deano, MrT was never convicted of anything - since he was
    never formally charged, nor was he tried by a jury of his peers.
    So, he was an alledged forgerer...
    
    HTH.
    
    JD
110.1042Dean dwells within me. No network security problem exists!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 16:145
    He's already confessed to the crime JD, so you can remove the alleged
    in front of forgerer.
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.1043Continue with the trialDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Feb 21 1990 16:2022
>    Judge McFlop, I'd like to protest the shameless use of ADA-T's
>    wheelchair.  This thing's getting to be a little much.  I say we pick
>    the lug up by the seat of his pants and throw him off your High Bench
>    judge.  10 to 1 he lands on his feet.

	Valuing differences DADS, valuing differences. The DA seemed to
come upon this affliction in the open, in front of everyone. No need to
question this.
    
>    One other thing yer honor.  Since MrT is still on probation from his
>    prior offense (convicted forgerer), doesn't this make him ineligible to
>    be a lawyer?!  Especially one for the state!  I'd like a ruling on
>    this your judgeship.

	DADS, there is no documentation or the DA having been tried for this
crime or convicted. We are not putting the DA on trial here, counselor,
your client is on trial.  The DA is the DA....

	BTW, DADS, I haven't seen such blatant misuse of my last name since
grade school. Keep up the good work :^)

	JJ
110.1044WANTED: DA. No experience necesary. Must have a clean record.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 16:4224
> DADS, there is no documentation or the DA having been tried for this
> crime or convicted. 

Not true McFalse.  A probation period was clearly established in note
25.115.  Here's an extract of the important verbiage:

> Perhaps we could offer him some type of probation,
> say for a week or two.  If he stays clean we could extend it to a month.
> After a month, 6 months, etc.  I don't envision the day when we can
> ever "take our eye" off him, but it's downright unAmerican to not give
> a man a 2nd chance.  In sum, if Willie Horton deserved a 2nd chance, then
> certainly MrT does.  

Approval for my suggestion was unanimous, and MrT clearly accepted the 
conditions by his return.

I think you should take this under advisement, yer holiness.  It's 
pretty embarassing to have a DA who's on probation trying a very public
case.  This is the stuff 60 Minutes type shows pick up in a flash, and I'd
hate to see your good name dragged down in a mudslide of negative
publicity.

- Dean
    
110.1045RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOMill bound in 12 hours...Wed Feb 21 1990 16:458
    Bull hockey Deanchrissssssssssssss.  T was never tried, he was never
    convicted, and you, the lyncher extreme, granted him parole, yet
    he wasn't convicted of anything.  Man, you get more and more twisted
    every day.  So Chris, care to explain how Dan got such High marks
    for being pro-JR when all he said is he'd root for JR since he hates
    the Celtics so much?    
    
    JD
110.1046JD, do you *really* think T was innocent?? Get with it man!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 16:5918
    JD, let me tell you something about the criminal justice system.  In
    order to *TRY* someone, they've gotta be around to be tried.  Since MrT
    ran away after being nailed with insurmountable evidence, we didn't
    really have the opportunity for a trial.  (Members of the jury can feel
    free to note how I've gone nowhere, a pretty clear sign of innocence.)
    
    T's subsequent return and confession led to my setting up of the parole
    parameters.  Clearly they're currently being violated.
    
    As to Dan & JR, I was giving anybody who mentioned JR in anything
    resembling positive context 2 points.  True passion gotya 4.  Dan
    mentioned JR.  Dan got 2 points.  
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    
    
110.1047witnesses, I want witnesses!DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Feb 21 1990 17:0311
>Approval for my suggestion was unanimous, and MrT clearly accepted the 
>conditions by his return.


	Approval was almost non-existent, never mind unanimous. There was
no public outcry for a trial.


	MOTION DENIED!

JJ
110.1048RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 17:2731
    (Dean peers up at judge, looking oppressed.)
    
    Dean:	"Very well your honor, very well."
    
    (Dean turns slyly to the jury as he walks back to his desk.)
    
    Dean:	"Defense would like to remind the jury that the man
    		trying this case is a convicted forgerer.  Please consider
    		all his remarks in this light."
    
    (Insert sight of both judge and ADA-T simultaneously leaping up (funny
     how a paralyzed man can do that, now ain't it) in outrage at this
     clear gimmick stunt used by Dean.)
    
    ADA-T:	"OBJECTION YOUR HONOR!"
    
    Judge:	"SUSTAINED.  COACH SMITH, IF I CATCH YOU PULLING ANOTHER
    		STUNT LIKE THAT, I'LL SLAP YOU WITH A TECHNICAL AND PUT
    		PUT ADA-T AT THE LINE SHOOTING A PAIR, *AND* GIVE HIM THE
    		BALL."
    
    Dean:	"Sorry yer honor.  Defense withdraws its last comment."
    
    (Insert Dean giving jury a giant *WINK*, and the jury giving a 
     collective "thumbs up" back.  They got the point all right!)
    
    
    - Dean
    		
    
     
110.1049Boy, this DADS has noiveDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Feb 21 1990 17:306
	DADS will refrain from putting words in the judges mouth...
And that last remark is to be ignored by the jury and stricken
from the record.  Heck, they haven't even looked up from that magazine
for a day and a half :^)

	JJ
110.1050Chris caught lying again...HEURIS::METZGERI will not Instigate RevolutionWed Feb 21 1990 17:3818
    Here is an extract of my score
    
NOTER	     NOTE  HUMOR  ORIG  SINC  +UNC  EMO  +JR  +DEAN  BONUS  TOTAL
-----	     ----  -----  ----  ----  ----  ---  ---  -----  -----  -----
METZGER       .251   8     9     8     8     7    0     2      0      42
    
    
    You'll notice I reccceived no points for JR whom I mentioned THREE (3)
    times in my entry....
    
    While dan received 2 points for JR whom he mentioned ONE (1) time in
    his entry....
    
    You ACC Chris are a liar....
    
    
           Metz
    
110.1051SAGE::ROSSFantasy Baseball LockoutWed Feb 21 1990 17:5518
>    You'll notice I reccceived no points for JR whom I mentioned THREE (3)
>    times in my entry....
>    
>    While dan received 2 points for JR whom he mentioned ONE (1) time in
>   his entry....
>    
>    You ACC Chris are a liar....
>
>           Metz

Hey, I mentioned J.R. FIVE times in mine and only got 2 points too!!!

I demand a recount!!!

I demand two tickets to ANOTHER Celtics game if I am declared the winner!!!

I... I... I...  I'm starting to sound like Dan.

110.1052An honest mistake, but it doesn't matter.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 17:5816
    Sorry Metz.  I may have forgotten to give you 2 points, but I ain't no
    lier!
    
    (Insert Dean pulling out his bifocals and looking like the great
     teacher that he is, examining the Metz scorecard.)
    
    (Dean slashes his red marker quickly and hands it back to Mr. Metz 
     with his additional 2 +JR points.)
    
    Dean:	"There.  That gives ya 44, which is still 2 short of
    		the winning entry."
    
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.1053Defense calls another witness.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 18:0012
    Dean:	"Defense calls Mr. Steve Nazzaro to the stand!"
    
    Dean:	"After swearing yourself in Nazz, please answer a couple
    		of questions.  First, could you give us a brief history
    		of how ACC Chris happened to obtain 2 Celtics Press
    		Passes.  And secondly, could you state to this court any
    		known improprities you're aware of inregards to ACC's
    		handling of The Contest."
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.1054COMET::MONTGOMERYA BIG 8^)Wed Feb 21 1990 18:038
What a waste of Disk space!!!  There going to have to put on another RA90
just for this note alone......

    
Let's have a hung jury and get it over with.....


Monty
110.1055RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 18:035
    Fine Steve.  I understand you're a little nervous.  Please answer
    the questions already asked.
    
    - Dean
    
110.1057If big-butt got drafted where he should've this would never have happened4159::NAZZAROAC Green = All-Star misfitWed Feb 21 1990 18:1334
    Yes, IsweartotellthetroofthewholetroofandnuttinbutthetroofsohelpmeGod.
    
    As all of you know, I hate North Carolina, Dean Smith, the Dean Dome,
    and anything to do with them lowly 'Heels.  Unfortunately, this hatred
    led me to make a sucker bet.  I wagered with the defendant that JR Reid
    would not be a lottery pick, going solely on his talent.  I of course
    failed to consider how stupid the Charlotte Hornets management is, and
    they took him with their lottery pick.  I lost the bet.  The prize was
    two press passes to the Celtics-Hornets game on 2/7/90.
    
    I have access to press passes due to my association with the Celtics as
    a member of the scoring crew, a position I've held for the past eleven
    years.  And since I assumed there would be next to no interest in
    seeing the lowly Hornets at the Garden, I figured I wasn't losing much
    in offering the tickets to ACC_Chris.  Little did I realize the
    firestorm thses passes would create.
    
    In any event, Chris won the passes to see the plate-stacker and his
    teammates.  Unfortunately for Chris, he couldn't make it to the Garden
    for the game, and asked me if I'd object to his holding a contest to
    get rid of the press passes.  I said I didn't see any reason why not.
    Little did I know ...........
    
    As far as improprieties in running the contest, I am not in position
    to comment on that.  I can say that he won the bet fair and square,
    and asked my permission to run the contest.  What happened during the
    contest, and its aftermath, I am not in position to judge.  I will say
    that Dan and Doug were pretty weak Hornets representatives, not at all
    as fervent as Chris would have wished.  Ms Petrie from Miami can
    coorborate on this point.  Seems to me that if the contest were fixed,
    Chris would have picked as winners someone with more Carolina blue
    running through their veins.
    
    NAZZ
110.1058Your witness, convicted felon ADA-T.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 18:185
    Thank you Steve.  No further questions.
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.1060SAGE::ROSSFantasy Baseball LockoutWed Feb 21 1990 18:2211
Yeah, Chris... cut it out making sport of MrT's obvious disabilities.

Halitosis.
Incontinence.
Terminal hemorrhoids.
Flatulence.
Herpes Complex^2.
Ringworm.
Megalo-melanoma.

And that's just the physical stuff.
110.1061smileCNTROL::CHILDSHey Fish, GET IN THE BOATWed Feb 21 1990 18:3310
    
    seems to me that Dan's entry won for one and one reason only...
    
    
    It's completely bias attack on the values of the prosecuting attorney's
    choice of teams....
    
    ;^)
    
    mike
110.1062Monty's jealous, I guess.....TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Wed Feb 21 1990 18:358
    Yeah, and as for YOU Monty,
    
    This jurist is already well-hung!  Whattya mean by suggesting
    we get even more hung?????  I don' wanna look like a Shetland pony,
    it would be far too embarrassing for my associates here!
    
    go back to the SI mag.  I'll wake ya when something interesting
    happens.
110.1063RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 18:4420
    To sum up Steve Nazzaro's entry and answer Assistant DA-T at the same
    time:
    
    "THEY WERE ACC CHRIS' TIX AND HE COULD DO WHATEVER HE WANTED TO WITH
    'EM."
    
    Now, you guys can question my subjective judging until you're blue in
    the face.  But it was my contest and I was the ONLY judge.  It was
    subjective.  I liked Dan's the best.  Barely.  I compensated for the
    close call of the contest by allowing the 2nd place finisher to attend
    as well, which was pretty nice of me I thought.
    
    Metz and JD and 1Way and /Don and (whoever) love comparing their
    entries with Dan's.  Keep in mind that Doug Ross was runner-up.  If any
    of you woulda finished in 2nd, you probably coulda gone.  So why not
    compare your entry with his instead???  Perhaps you'll be better able
    to identify where your shortcomings lie.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.1064SAGE::ROSSFantasy Baseball LockoutWed Feb 21 1990 18:537
That's right...

After Chris posted his scoring system, I re-entered my already contending
entry to put more J.R. and more pro-Carolina sentiment into it... 

Had I used a different name for "P" {Perkins instead of Point Guard},
I may have been the #1 entry...   
110.1065One last witnessDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Feb 21 1990 19:1211
>Your Honorship, I call upon you to advise the Jury as to whether or not the
>so-called winning entry violated the stated contest rules as you interpret
>them.  

	It's not my place to rule on evidence, except to decide whether it is
permissible or not. However, at this point in time, the Defense, I believe,
has 1 more witness to call, a physically challenged one at that.

	DADS, call your last witness. Call the DA to the stand!

JJ
110.1067COOKIE::MJOHNSTONKeep on keepin' on!Wed Feb 21 1990 19:167
Murmurs from the Jury:

	Well is it over? Can we tell `em what we decided? What's going on?

                        { Other Jurors.... in Unison}

            !!!!!!!!!! S H U T !!!!  U P P P P P P P P !!!!!!!!!!!
110.1068One more question for Mr. Ross.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 19:268
    Dean:	"I'd like to recall Doug Ross to the stand for a moment.
    		Doug, reswear yourself in and state to us all your feelings
    		on Carolina basketball.  Feel free to include your James
    		"Jimbo" Worthy sentiment."
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.1069Coming to an end - the excitement is mounting!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 19:319
    Your worship, after Doug finishes I'll have 1 more witness to call. 
    He'll be available tomorrow.  I'll be through with him by the morning
    and will turn him over to cross-examination by the afternoon.  
    
    I'd say we're on target for a Friday decision.
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.1071You won't have to.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeWed Feb 21 1990 20:052
    
    
110.1072SAGE::ROSSFantasy Baseball LockoutThu Feb 22 1990 11:5735
>    Dean:	"I'd like to recall Doug Ross to the stand for a moment.
>    		Doug, reswear yourself in and state to us all your feelings
>    		on Carolina basketball.  Feel free to include your James
>    		"Jimbo" Worthy sentiment."
>   

	I find watching most North Carolina basketball games a chore, 
	mainly because of an arrogance that starts at Dean Smith
	and fills the rest of the Deandome.    Dean is a whiner in the 
	best Boeheim tradition.  He recruits a ton of talent, but makes
	sure no player is bigger than Dean or the program.  I think it
	costs UNC titles.    I can't remember watching a UNC game where
	the players seemed to be happy to be playing.  The tradition,
	the system, the Dean, all seem to put a lid on the game....
	I root for their opponent most always when I see them play
	{unless it's Syracuse or Oklahoma or Georgetown}.

	Dean's best players seems to get better after they leave his
	control.   If the Coach's duty is to win titles, then he fails.
	He seems to get and produce quality students.  That is his
	greatest positive point.

	There have been UNC players who I have enjoyed watching play.
	Mike O'Koren, J.R. Reid, Phil Ford...  I think George Lynch 
	will be one too.   There are others who I can't or couldn't
	stand... Jeff Lebo, Rick Fox, King Rice...

	On James Worthy, he is a talented player who benefits greatly
	from playing with the best player ever.   He is not in the 
	upper echelon of the NBA's best players... just a bit below.
	He's a typical UNC player in that he looks like he'd rather
	be anywhere but on the court most times.   I wouldn't pay to
	watch James Worthy play basketball mainly because his style 
	of play is not the style that I enjoy watching.

110.1073No further questions.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 22 1990 12:076
    Dean:	"Thank you Doug.  Unless ADA-T has any further questions,
    		you may step down."
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.1074The Final Chapter.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 22 1990 12:1824
Insert sight of Dean rising slowly and thoughtfully from behind his
 desk.  In a moment of *high* drama he says ...



Dean:	"Defense calls Mr. ACC Chris Knorr to the stand!"

Courtroom immediately breaks out in whispered excitement.  Even the jury
looks up collectively with a semi-interested gaze.

ACC Chris rises somewhat shakily (it's obvious this trial and UNC's 17-10
record have had quite an effect on him) and approaches the stand.  He's
decked out in his C-A-R-O-L-I-N-A shirt, UNC cap, TAR HEELS sweats and
socks, and Air Jordan sneaks.  

Bailiff: "DOYOUSWEARTOTELLTHEWHOLETRUTHANDNOTHIN'BUTTHETRUTHSOHELPYOUGOD?"

ACC Chris: "I most certainly do."


Judge McFlop, ADA-T, the esteemed jury, Dean, and the packed viewing 
audience sit back and prepare to hear The Truth about what *really*
happened during The Contest.
    
110.1075Something to think about JudgeRHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 22 1990 12:2410
    Before my client gives his testimony your highness I was wondering if 
    you'd worked out the details on how the jury will reach their verdict.  
    
    I'd like to suggest having each juror note in with their vote.  If there's
    a unanimous 'GUILTY' outcome, I'll humbly await my sentencing.
    Any 'NOT GUILTY' or abstainers should legally result in a hung jury and
    set me free.
    
    
    - Dean
110.1076Something for the _defendant_ to think about...DWOVAX::EROSDon't touch the ring, vic!Thu Feb 22 1990 12:3616
    > Any 'NOT GUILTY' or abstainers should legally result in a hung jury
    > and set me free.
    
    Temporarily, yes.  If the jury votes 'GUILTY' unanimously, you've been
    convicted.  If the jury votes 'NOT GUILTY' unanimously, you've been
    exonerated.  If there is a non-unanimous vote, it's a hung jury and the
    prosecution has the option to re-try the case.  Remember, "double
    jeopardy" only applies to actual verdicts.
    
    Of course, the DA _could_ circumvent the jury deliberations (if he
    feels that his evidence is overwhelming enough) and ask the judge for a
    directed verdict...
    
    HTH,
    
    -- FooBear
110.1077LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Thu Feb 22 1990 12:399
    
    	re: verdict..
    
    	Of course, the jury members should contact each other (through
    mail most likely) to discuss the finer points of the case and to
    get a feeling of how each member is going to vote.  Who's the jury
    "leader" (or whatever you call it) anyways??
    
    sean
110.1078Dean's always thinking FBear.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 22 1990 12:4518
    > AD could ask for a direct verdict
    
    FooBear, don't even put that on the table.  I've been reserving
    judgement on McFalse.  For all I know he could be a wolf (MrT) in 
    sheeps clothing.  He's been siding with the ADA the majority of the
    time, but rather than whine about it like T did when the fair Judge
    Wapner was trying this case I've accepted him like a man, trying to
    work within the system.
    
    I'm sure ADA-T will try to pull the stunt you've suggested.  (He never
    woulda thought of it himself though.  He's been proven to be a largely
    incompetent prosecuting attorney, not to mention less than creative.)
    When he does Judge McFall will be put to the test and we shall all see
    what he's really made of.  
    
    
    - Dean
    
110.1079Head of jury == ForemanRHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 22 1990 12:472
    
    
110.1083Here's how we'll do itDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 22 1990 13:1231
	There will be no directed decision made by me. This will go to
the jury, as has been promised.

	the jurors are as follows:

	View3d::MACGREGOR  The Wizard
	COOKIE::MJOHNSTON   Mike Johnston	FOREMAN
	MIIS1::DHAMEL	   Dick Hamel
	MAMIE::WENTZELL	   Scott Wentzell
	TOLKIN::FARLEY     Mr. Farley
                           Charlie Partee
        AUNTB::HAAS	   Tom Haas
                           Mr. Strout

	Metz and Dr. M  Testified - excluding them from the jury
	

	I will charge the Jury after all testimony and closing statements
	have been heard.

	Any contact by the DA, the Defense Attorney, or the defendant
	made to the jury once the case is closed will be reported to me.

	the Jury will make their decision off-line - I may set up a
	restricted conference for this.. Then report to me that they
	HAVE A verdict.  We will then proceed back into this
	note and have the foreman deliver the verdict.

	JJ

	P.S.  Please supply me with corrected or missing Nodes
110.1084notesYOU CAIN'T DO THAT TO US!!!!!TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Thu Feb 22 1990 13:1519
    Umm...excuse me...
    
    Ahem........
    
    Hey yer honor.....
    
    Hey You....  Listen up for a minute!
    
    For almost three weeks we've been sitting in this stupid box, peeing
    in our pants, farting, getting our pee-pee's whacked, eating pizza,
    having dwarft throwing contests behind the box,  and getting splinters
    stuck in our fanny's!  ALL WITHOUT ANY compensation!!!
    
    And now folks are proposing that our attendence be ignored and
    that the Judge make the verdict???? That's preposterous!!! 
    (as well as un 'merican)
    
    Thank you for allowing me this outburst.
    
110.1085LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Thu Feb 22 1990 13:266
    
    	re: McFall
    
    	I like that restricted conference idea, a lot.
    
    sean
110.1086SAGE::ROSSFantasy Baseball LockoutThu Feb 22 1990 13:322
Yes, MrT?   I'm already under oath.   Axe me no questions, I'll
tell ya no lies.
110.1087ACC Chris testimony, Part I.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 22 1990 13:3787
Dean:		"ACC, could you tell us about the process you went through
		to pick your Contest Winner."

ACC Chris:	"I'd be glad to coach.  I'm glad to finally get an
		opportunity to clean up this whole mess.

		When I posted my original note in 110.0 I mentioned that
		my goal, since I couldn't attend the game, was to find
		someone who matched my passion for UNC to go and cheer
		JR on.  I believe I used the word "clone".  Now granted, 
		that's a pretty impossible task.  I bleed baby blue and 
		there's not too many people around ANYWHERE that match my
		passion for your Heels, let alone on OURGNG.  Nevertheless 
		that was my original intention.

Dean:		You say "original" intention.  Does this mean your
		goal changed during The Contest?

ACC Chris:	Well, yes and no.  I always wanted a true UNC fan to go.
		But in order to stimulate interest for The Contest (and
		maximize everyone's reading enjoyment on OURGNG) I posted
		the fateful 64-Point Must System (tm).  In retrospect
		this was a big mistake on my part, although it would
		appear everyone else is having a great time with it (at
		my expense).

		See, when I quantified the contest, I left open the
		possibility that a non-UNC fan could win!  I also (again
		to stimulate interest and maximize the pleasure we all
		get from the greatest conference on the Easynet) mentioned
		that I wouldn't consider past anti-UNC remarks people
		made when judging the entries.  This proved to be an
		impossibility, from a human perspective.

Dean:		I see.  It would appear you made several errors during this
		Contest ACC.  I'm not pleased.  Not pleased at all.  :^(

ACC Chris:	I know coach.  I made some mistakes.  But you gotta believe
		me when I tell you it was all for the benefit of the noter.
		And I committed NO crime.  I did it for the poor slob out
		there slaving away on some program or proposal or bug or 
		technical document or whatever.  The poor sap whose day is 
		going lousy and who dials into SPORTS in hopes of getting a 
		chuckle or 2 and after getting it returns to more productive 
		work.  Heck, I did it for DEC too!  

Dean:		Don't you think you're exagerating a little?

ACC Chris:	Well, maybe a little.  But I've heard from many noters
		that 110 is a shoe-in for NoTY, so that should carry a
		little weight don't ya think?

Dean:		Perhaps, but that's up for the jury to decide.  Please
		continue.

ACC Chris:	Well it was coming down to the wire and I was starting to
		get worried.  While we'd all had a good time and all a
		decision HAD to be made.  I consulted several people (my
		wife, John Hendry, and a few others) but ultimately it
		was Lonely At The Top time.  Getting it down to the Final
		8 was easy.  Now it was getting rough.

Courtroom is deathly silent at this point.  Even the jury has put down
their SI and is listening CLOSELY.  The entire case, all 1,000+ notes,
has come down to this!



ACC Chris:	Your honor, I gotta go to the bathroom.  

Judge McFall:	NOW??!!

ACC Chris:	Yup.  Right now.  Please?!

Judge McFall:	So granted.  Court will resume as soon as ACC gets back 
		from the john.

Insert sight of ACC Chris dashing down from the witness stand, running
past the jury, (pausing only momentarily to grab the SI) and out the
courtroom doors.  While the courtroom remains silent, horrible groaning
and discusting noises can be heard and the court fills with a horrid 
odor.  

Judge McFall:	(Gaging) "This court is in (gage) recess!  BANG!  Bailiff,
		open some windows!  

    
110.1088SAGE::ROSSFantasy Baseball LockoutThu Feb 22 1990 13:401
That's right, Chris...  Purge your soul...  just not on MY shoes.
110.1090SAGE::ROSSBust a move -&gt; Move a bustThu Feb 22 1990 14:3128
>    Mr. Ross, isn't it fair to say that... ahhh... when you testified
>    during the initial stages of this fine trial you... ummmm... were
>    under quite a bit of pressure, that you were just a tad addled?

	Well, I did have a train to catch to go to the Celts game.
	That may have got me a bit confoosed.
    
>    1.  Were the contents of your initial depostion true to their word,
>    	(i.e., not a joke)?

	The contents were true.  The emotion behind the words 
	is open for interpretation.   You seem to think I was
	"disgusted".  I tend to place my emotions at the time
	as "apathetically disappointed".   
    
>    2.  Did ACCrook prevail upon certain select contestants to agree
>    	to having the stated first prize halved?

	No. How many time do I have to say that?   He never did.
	He may have led me to think that there were dealings 
	taking place with other parties... but he never offered
	me a deal.
    
>    3.  Didn't the faux Judge Wapner reveal his true identity to you
>    	personally, who is he?
    
	I don't remember her name.... 

110.1092Bailiff, close those windows, all I've got on is this heah robeDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 22 1990 15:169
>    Your Leadership, is the pretend defense attorney finished with his
>    pretend interrogation of the pretensious defendant?  If so I'd like
>   to begin my final cross-examination asap.
    
	We'll give DADS time to recover from his gastrointestinal problems,
and let him answer that himself...

	DADS, ou est vous?
JJ
110.1093ACC Chris testimony: Part II (final)RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 22 1990 15:20124
Insert sight of ACC Chris strolling back in with a content look on his
his face.  All windows of the courtroom are open and flurries are pouring
in, accumulations reaching around 1/4" so far.  Jury members have built
a small fire and are warming their hands around it.  Judge McFrozen has
doned a heavy topcoat, gloves, and a wool scarf.  Only ADA-T remains
in shirt-sleeves as he slugs down another shot of whiskey.  

ACC flips the SI mag back to the jury (which quickly tosses this new-found
fuel onto the fire) and resumes his spot on the stand.

Judge:		"B-B-Bailiff, I think you can c-c-c-close the w-w-windows 
		n-now.  The odor seems to have passed.  

Bailiff closes windows, jury extinguishes fire but continues passing
a couple of flask bottles amongst themselves.  ADA-T complains that it's
getting too hot in the courtroom, chugs down the rest of his Wild Turkey,
flings it over his head into the crowd (where a *SMASH* is heard, followed
by screams, and a "My face.  It's RUINED.  I'LL SUE YOU YA ...." yell.
The (formerly) beautiful Kelly Bundy is escorted out with a heavy trail
of blood trailing her.  ADA-T doesn't even notice, but reaches into his
briefcase and pops open a bottle of Old Grand Dad with his teeth.  
"Ia gots a parscraption for tis too, yer honorarium", he slurs to the Judge
in an obvious drunken stuper.  The discusted judge just nods his head
with an "I can't believe this is happening" look.

Judge:		"Please Dean, resume testimony.  PLEASE!"

Dean:		"Thank you your honor.  Now ACC, you were about to tell
		us how you whittled the Excellent 8 down to your contest
		winner.

ACC Chris:	"Well coach, as I said, getting it down to 8 was easy.
		Even the Final 4 wasn't that difficult.  I was able to
		pretty much look objectively at the numbers I'd formulated
		from the Must System (tm).  The only problem I had was JD.
		He had a great entry, no question.  But the disturbing
		news that he loathed my Tar Heels weighed heavily on
		my mind.  Perhaps it forced me to subconsciously grade him
		lower than he deserved, I don't know.  In any case I
		had him running in fourth place, but when the Metz entry
		came in he was bounced from the Final 4.

Dean:		But JD did win the T-shirt, correct?  And he wasn't even
		eligible to win the tickets anyway, right?

ACC Chris:	Correct, coach.  And I sent the T-shirt to him in good faith
		too, which he's testified to.  That shirt had never been 
		worn and was in perfect condition.  The only thing I did 
		was put a Carolina sticker on it, which could easily be 
		peeled off if he wanted.

Dean:		Okay, go on then.  What about the Final 4.

ACC Chris:	At this point I felt I had to reevaluate the entries.  The
		Must System (tm) just wasn't adequate from here in.  The
		entries were too close and the stakes too high.

		During the judging of the Final 4 entries I was literally 
		a torn man.  On the one hand I had my stated goal of finding 
		a clone.  On the other was the Must System (tm).  Essentially 
		what I had was 2 different winners for 2 different contests!  

Dean:		I see what ya mean ACC, I see what ya mean.  So what did
		you do?

ACC Chris:	Well I used the Must System (tm) and objectively determined
		my winner.  It was Doug Ross.  Objectively put, his was
		numero uno.  

Dean:		Chris, you realize you've opened yourself wide open.  I
		can't help you here.  The jury has every right to condemn
		you for what you did.

ACC Chris:	I know coach, I know.  But I'm not finished.  Although
		Doug was my Objective winner, he failed miserably to meet
		the clone requirement.  I would NEVER, in a zillion years,
		critize in any way, shape, or form, the man who led us to
		your only Title.  Never coach.  No way.  Now Dan, on the
		other hand, met the clone requirement better than anybody
		in the whole dang conference.  Plus he had a pretty darn
		good note entered.  Good enough to make the Final 4 on its
		own merit, despite some shortcomings in the humor and
		originality departments.

		Well, when confronted with a moral dilemma of such magnitude
		I guess like any other person I went with my gut.  It told
		me to be creative and try and make the best of an
		impossible situation.  First, do NOT, under any circumstances,
		allow someone to win the Contest who might come back and
		bite us in the butt and say "I HATE THE HEELS" (or some
		creative equivalent) when I'd given him the tix.  Thus,
		Dan was my winner.  But I also had to be fair, and thus the
		64 Must (tm) winner DID receive equal reward as Dan.  He
		attended the game.  I saw to it that he would.  The details
		are unimportant.

		There coach.  I've said it.  It's over.

Insert sight of ACC shedding manly tears on the stand.  He's weeping like
a baby.  Dean is trying to console him, giving him a Deanly hug, but it's
kind of awkward.  ADA-T has his face down on the table - he's stone drunk.
"HICK!" is the only word that he's spoken the last hour or so of
testimony.  The jury is looking at ACC with deep sympathy, unsure about
what to do, concerned about the decision they'd soon have to make.

Dean:		One final question Chris, if you can gather yourself.  What
		about the bribes that BabyDoc and Mike Childs offered you.

ACC Chris (gathering himself in a storm of fury): THOSE INFIDELS!  I WAS
		JUST JOKING AROUND WITH 'EM.  NEVER IN A BILLION YEARS 
		WOULD EITHER OF 'EM HAVE GOTTEN THE TICKETS.  They violated
		the spirit of everything we hold dear in OURGNG.  Namely,
		(almost) anything for a laugh.  They sold their souls, and
		as far as I"m concerned they can burn in HADES!!!!!!!!!

At this ACC collapses on the stand.  9-1-1 is called and a couple of
paramedics come and place him in a stretcher.  He's wheeled out of the
courtroom amidst a spattering of whispers.

Judge:		This court is in recess until ACC is fit to testify again
		(and the ADA sobers up).

		BANG!  BANG!!
    
110.1094JUPITR::PARTEEChasbo -- Lemieux est le mieuxThu Feb 22 1990 17:5440
110.1095Dean: "Your honor, the defense rests."RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 22 1990 18:021
    
110.1096Was the Chasbo eatin' pepperonis or what, man?DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 22 1990 18:076
>                  -< Dean: "Your honor, the defense rests." >-

	All right. Mr. Prosecutor, thsi your final chance to call
any witnesses. After that, please proceed with your closing remarks...

JJ
110.1098RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 22 1990 18:4011
>    Mr. Knorr, cain you point out to me where in the winning entry any
>    sentiments, praises, comments, songs, ballads, or poetry appears?
    
    There's plenty of praises, sentiments, and comments.  In fact the
    whole note is full of 'em.  As to songs, ballads, or poetry, those were
    mere suggestions I made to stimulate the creative juices of the
    talented noters of OURGNG.  They weren't a requirement in any way,
    shape, or form.
    
    Can I step down now your honor?
    
110.1100ROCK::GRONOWSKIiceMANThu Feb 22 1990 18:533
    
    I believe a mistrial should be declared.  Have the jurors been
    sequestered?
110.1101LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Thu Feb 22 1990 18:575
    
    	Sesasquatchwhat?   Of course not.  We're all stil here.  waiting
    patiently for the final words.
    
    sean
110.1102Please continue, Mr. KnorrDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Feb 22 1990 18:5714
>    Please direct the defendant to answer the question !!
    
>    Please enter, in verbatim quotation, from the "winning" entry by Dan
>    Schneider, any pro-Carolina sentiments, praises, or pro-Dean comments.
    
 	The defendant is directed to answer the question, to his best 
recollection..

	Mr. Gronowski, please refrain from these outbursts, or I'll
have the bailiff whacketh thy peepee! The jury has not heard closing arguments,
in fact we're still hearing testimony forgoshsakes!

	Order in the court!
JJ
110.1105Okay. Here ya go.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Feb 22 1990 19:1137
110.1106ROCK::GRONOWSKIiceMANThu Feb 22 1990 19:1616
    
    MrT, sorry for the outburst.  Someone sent me an anonymous
    interoffice mail package with the following instructions.  I
    was warned that if I didn't cooperate, my office would be 
    plastered with Denver Broncos paraphernalia!
    
    1) Go into the SPORTS notesfile and enter the following:
    
       - I believe a mistrial should be declared.  Have the
         jurors been sequestered?
    
       - Has Don King been called to the stand yet?  We want
         justice.
    
    I thought it might be a joke... the previous name on the package
    is not legible, but the location is ALF?  Right!
110.1107EARRTH::BROOKSLet's ... get ...BUSY !!!Fri Feb 23 1990 12:371
    If it will help, I'll enter my evidence of a bribe at 1pm EST today.
110.1110Serious stuff here folks. *Serious*.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 23 1990 13:2873
> Isn't it true that the "winner" didn't actually provide a single pro-Carolina
> sentiment, JR praise, or pro-Dean comment anywhere in his "winning" entry;
> but instead merely submitted a resume of past actions and one promised future
> action should he win?

    Call it whatever you want.  It was a subjective contest and I could
    judge the entries anyway I wanted.  I kinda looked at Dan's "resume"
    approach as a somewhat unique tactic.  Put another way, the stuff he
    said was TRUE, which met my "clone" requirements better than anybody
    else.  (By a **long** ways ...)
    
> Isn't it true that this entry was invalid according to your rules and
> therefore should've been disqualified?

    No.  The 48-line rule was a suggestion, not a requirement.  I believe
    your own entry exceeded 48 lines by quite a ways as well, and I didn't
    disqualify it.  (No matter how much blasphemy it contained.)
    
> Isn't it true that the ever-arrogant Schneid felt it wasn't even necessary
> to bother with expressing sentiments and singing praises and making pro-Dean
> comments cuz he was assured of winning the contest prior to it even starting?

    ABSOLUTELY NOT.  This is a bald-faced lie which you have NO RIGHT to
    express.  Where's the proof of this????  There is none, cause it didn't
    happen this way.  I didn't even know myself until the afternoon of
    Jan-26 who the winner was gonna be.
    
> Isn't it true that you ignored your own rules in order to have a good laugh
> at the Little Guy's expense by elicitng false praise, a Star Heel delicacy,
> from dozens of poor schlubs who didn't even have a chance from the get-go? 
    
    It's true that I was trying to maximize the enjoyment of the OURGNG
    reader.  I've taken some severe punishment as a result, BTW.  But I
    want to make it perfectly clear to the jury that I took my
    responsibilities as a Contest Judge *VERY* seriously.  I spent a
    considerable amount of time (away from work) judging the entries.  It
    wasn't easy, but I did the best I could.
    
    Noters may remember a rather serious exchange between myself and 1Way
    last week.  Frank alleged that I'd acted improperly in considering the
    bribes from Mike Childs & BabyDoc.  The implication was that I wasn't
    taking my responsibilities as Contest Judge seriously.  This struck a 
    raw nerve with me because nothing could be farther from the truth.  
    There were actual prizes at stake and I realized right away that alot
    of people would really like to go to the game.  It's not everyday you
    get to sit in the Press Box at the Gahden.  True, I did joke
    around with Mike & 00:00, never thinking it'd come back to haunt me. 
    (Ask yourselves how many times you've joked with fellow noters, in here
    and off-line.  Would *YOU* want it held against you?  Should we bring
    John Hendry up on charges cause of his humorous Bill Curley prank? 
    [no])
	    
> Isn't it true that you violated your promise that "I'll... disregard any
> previous...notes" by in fack choosing a winner that not only FAILED to meet
> the minium contest entry requirements but also was nothing BUT an overview
> of previous notes?

    Technically you are correct.  I confess that I found it impossible to
    disregard what I knew to be true anti-UNC sentiment among the
    contestants.  I just couldn't bring myself to letting a non-Carolina
    fan win.  I set myself up for this by essentially having 2 contests. 
    One was for a UNC clone, the other was for the best entry.  I believe I
    rewarded both, but there was only one Contest Winner.
    
> Isn't it true that this proves that your contest was a total fraud?
    
    That's not for me to say.  I thought it was fair, if somewhat
    unconventional.  Ultimately the jury will have to decide.
    
    Can I step down now, yer honor?  I think I gotta go potty again.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
110.1111Decision next Friday?RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 23 1990 13:369
    Judge McFall it doesn't appear our goal of reaching a verdict by today
    will come to pass.  Since I'll be out of town Saturday (2/24) through
    Thursday (3/1), perhaps we should attempt to have closing arguments
    submitted by the end of today and let the jury deliberate next week,
    rendering a decision next Friday (3/2).  What think thee of this, yer
    excellency?
    
    
    - Dean
110.1112verdict dateLEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Fri Feb 23 1990 13:376
    
    	Actually, the Judge was supposed to announce that the date of
    the jury announcement will be March 5th, Monday.  We figured, why
    ruin everyone's weekend?  8^)
    
    sean
110.1113Gettin down tuitDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 23 1990 13:5215
	The jury has agreed to return a verdict March 5th. The time
for this will be 11:15 AM  I assume Dr. Thomas Midnight is the last 
witness before closing arguments. If that is the case, may I suggest 
to the noted barristers that they may wish to begin their summations 
outside the notesfile, and include a text file they have written when 
all evidence is in, just to save time. I am preparing by charge to the 
jury in the same way.
	We will allow certain comments in this note - in regards to
updates from how it might be boing inside the jury room, what the judge,
defendant, and attorneys, and bailiff are doing to kill time while
waiting for a verdict, etc. No evidence or statements brought forth
AFTER I charge the jury will be admissable. The jury will be sequestered
in their own conference until such time as a decision has been reached.

JJ
110.1114One last weekend to note like crazy. Thank you Judge.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 23 1990 13:562
    
    
110.11166 questions, whew!DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 23 1990 15:2754
>> Isn't it true that this entry was invalid according to your rules and
>> therefore should've been disqualified?

  >  No.  The 48-line rule was a suggestion, not a requirement.  I believe
  >  your own entry exceeded 48 lines by quite a ways as well, and I didn't
  >  disqualify it.  (No matter how much blasphemy it contained.)
   
>He's evading the question, the RAT.  As I've already explained, his line of
>defense is based on a two-pronged thrust, prong-thrust #1 being that he was 
>having a very private and detailed two week joke with Mr. Childs, who under-
>stood the bribe negotiations to've been quite serious, and prong-thrust #2
>being that he could "prove" that the scoring was indeed defensible.

	Mr. Prosecutor, it's not your job to tell DADS how to make his
defense. The answer by the defendant will stand on its merits.

	However, the defeandant will please answer the 6 questions below!

*******************************************************************************
1.
>> Isn't it true that the "winner" didn't actually provide a single pro-Carolina
>> sentiment, JR praise, or pro-Dean comment anywhere in his "winning" entry;
>> but instead merely submitted a resume of past actions and one promised future
>> action should he win?
>>explain how it wasn't necessary that the "winner" provide
>>such where all other entrants did.
  
2.
>ISN'T THE TRUTH THAT YOU WERE MAXIMIZING THE ONANISTIC PLEASURE OF HAVING
>A SERIES OF CIGAR-CHOMPING BACK-ROOM THIGH-SHUDDERING ORGASMS OF CYNICAL
>PLEASURE AT THE OURGNG READER BY THUMBING YOUR NOSE AT YOUR OWN RULES IN A
>DEVIOUS SICK PLOT TO ENSHIRINE YOUR OLD BUDDY AND HAVE A PARADE OF UNWITTING
>SUCKERS TO BOOT ?!?!?!?!

3.
>Isn't it true that the "UNC clone" you mentioned in your rules was to be
>defined by each person's entry disregarding, as you yourself stated, previous
>anti-UNC notes?

4.
>If not, how do you explain givng me, MrT, second place in the remote category?
>How do you explain giving the fallen Doug Ross, who's peenched many a rotten
>loaf at Dean Smith's expense, second place and what your now describe as an
>"objective first place" in the New England category?

5.
>And isn't it true that you're now odiously obfuscating by lying with your 
>perjury about how it turned into two contests, the best entry and the best
>clone?

6.
>Isn't it true that you must be perjuring yourself cuz the fallen Ross' "best
>entry" was in the same parrallel contest as "the best clone?"

110.1117JUPITR::PARTEECharlie -- Lemieux est le mieuxFri Feb 23 1990 15:5411
    
>>... the wonderful beautiful people of the Jury trust your word on this?
    
    
    I liked it better when you was callin' us "hung".
    
    This beootiful stuff is makin' me puke.  And this box is
    bad enuff as it is...
    
    Z
    
110.1119This is why he's only an "assistant" DA folks.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 23 1990 16:2134
Before I answer the six questions Judge, one point and one observation.
    
    First, ADA-T seems to be of the opinion that the *only* acceptable
    contest entry be a song, ballad, poem, p-name, or title.  This is
    utterly false.  Here's the exact text of relevant contest rules:
    
	"Be creative!  Songs, ballads, even poems are all welcome.  Try to keep
	them within a couple of screens at most (48 lines).  P-names and Titles
	will be considered as part of your effort."

    Notice that is says "Songs, ballads, even poems are all welcome."
    						    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Obviously I didn't require that the entry to be a song, ballad, or
    poem.  That was just a SUGGESTION.  As it turns out, the T-shirt winner
    submitted a musical, the 2nd place winner submitted a poem, and the
    winner a resume.  All three were perfectly acceptable and within the
    rules.  The only possible rule violation (which they were all guilty of
    except possibly Mr. Ross) was the 48-line limit.  That rule was amended
    later in 110 and defined as only a "suggestion".
    
    Now for my observation.  I noticed ADA-T has been "stomping his foot in
    anger".  Not bad for a paralyzed District Attorney, huh judge?  
    
    I submit to you that this wheelchair thing has been a shameless stunt 
    (you saw his foot stomp, the evidence is obvious) which is in horrendous 
    taste and demeaning to the handicapped.  I *DEMAND* it be removed from the
    courtroom AT ONCE.
    
    Huff.
    
    
    - Dean
    
    
110.1120Gettin' hot'n'heavy in hereDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 23 1990 16:2824
>    My point here is this: The evidence strongly implies that he ignored
>    his own stated contest rules.  I axed him - as a *defendant* and
>    not a defense attorney - to justify the "winning" entry's apparent
>    non-compliance.
    
>    I request that you instruct him to at least attempt answering the
>    question as axed, *then* let it stand on its own merits.
    
	Your point is well taken, Counselor, and suprisingly lucid for
one so obviously addicted to your medication...

	The defendant is directed to the answer directly the question:

"Did you ignore your own contest rules?"


	A murmer arises in the courtroom as Jamie Lee Curtis strolls
in and approaches the DA?  "Aren't you Archie Leach?" she gushes, barely
able to contain her emotions. "I'm whoever you want me to be" smirks the
DA, grinning happily as Jamie Lee sashays him and his wheelchair out of the
courtroom for a private lunch. The DA will attempt to become the world's
first three-legged man before the lunch hour passes.

JJ
110.1121There's time enough for thatDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 23 1990 16:3213
>    Now for my observation.  I noticed ADA-T has been "stomping his foot in
>    anger".  Not bad for a paralyzed District Attorney, huh judge?  
    
>    I submit to you that this wheelchair thing has been a shameless stunt 
>    (you saw his foot stomp, the evidence is obvious) which is in horrendous 
>    taste and demeaning to the handicapped.  I *DEMAND* it be removed from the
>    courtroom AT ONCE.
    
	Dean, I have a feeling that Jamie Lee may remedy the DA's
affliction during his lunch break. Let us see what happens upon his return..
JJ    
    

110.1123Judge, or interpreterDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 23 1990 17:325
The witness is directed to answer the question directly:

"Did the winning entry meet your stated requirements, or not?"

JJ
110.1125Do I sense a stall tactic here?DEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 23 1990 17:5421
>    Perhaps we should just set a deadline with him to either answer
>    or face a_instruction to the Jury from you that he has refused to
>    answer certain questions and what that refusal means in terms of
>    reaching a verdict.  
    
>    (removes reading glasses, looks up to Judge)
    
>    Cain I ever get these questions answered, directly?  

	The defendant and his attorney are reminded, that due to a time 
limit, and the unavailability of both of them next week, that ANY attempts
to stall this trial may result in forfeiture of an opportunity to give closing
remarks.  

	(stares down on the lopsided DA)

        At what time (Eastern) are you prepared to give your closing
	statement?

	And, is Dr. Midnight giving any more testimony, or not?

110.1127Judge, call an end to this thing. It's gettin' late.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 23 1990 18:3751
>> Isn't it true that the "winner" didn't actually provide a single pro-Carolina
>> sentiment, JR praise, or pro-Dean comment anywhere in his "winning" entry;
>> but instead merely submitted a resume of past actions and one promised future
>> action should he win?
>>explain how it wasn't necessary that the "winner" provide
>>such where all other entrants did.

Dean:	Objection your honor!  My client has already answered this.  ADA-T
	is badgering the witness!
  
2.
>ISN'T THE TRUTH THAT YOU WERE MAXIMIZING THE ONANISTIC PLEASURE OF HAVING
>A SERIES OF CIGAR-CHOMPING BACK-ROOM THIGH-SHUDDERING ORGASMS OF CYNICAL
>PLEASURE AT THE OURGNG READER BY THUMBING YOUR NOSE AT YOUR OWN RULES IN A
>DEVIOUS SICK PLOT TO ENSHIRINE YOUR OLD BUDDY AND HAVE A PARADE OF UNWITTING
>SUCKERS TO BOOT ?!?!?!?!

ACC:	No, it's not true.  I've already explained this.

3.
>Isn't it true that the "UNC clone" you mentioned in your rules was to be
>defined by each person's entry disregarding, as you yourself stated, previous
>anti-UNC notes?

ACC:	Again, I've already adequately explained this.  

4.
>If not, how do you explain givng me, MrT, second place in the remote category?
>How do you explain giving the fallen Doug Ross, who's peenched many a rotten
>loaf at Dean Smith's expense, second place and what your now describe as an
>"objective first place" in the New England category?

ACC:	Already been explained.  Can't you read????
	
5.
>And isn't it true that you're now odiously obfuscating by lying with your 
>perjury about how it turned into two contests, the best entry and the best
>clone?

ACC:	No.

6.
>Isn't it true that you must be perjuring yourself cuz the fallen Ross' "best
>entry" was in the same parrallel contest as "the best clone?"

ACC:	No.

"Did you ignore your own contest rules?"

ACC:	No.
    
110.1128Down to it nowDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 23 1990 18:4714
	OK, I think that covers it. Mr. Knorr you may step down.

	We will first hear closing arguments from the D.A., then
	from Mr. Knorr. I have a 4 PM appointment, and will charge
	the jury about 5 PM.  The jury will then be sequestered
	in their own notes file to weight the evidence. If they
	have questions, the bailiff or I will ask them in this note.

	Mr. Bailiff, send me your nodes via mail, that I may allow
	you access to the Jury's notefile.

	District Attorney Shaughnessy, we await your closing arguments..
JJ
110.1129Bad time to be busy I realize !RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 23 1990 19:016
    Judge McFall, I'm crushed with work right now and as such won't be able
    to enter my closing remarks until tonight from home.  I trust you'll
    grant me a continuance under these difficult circumstances.
    
    - Dean
    
110.1131Closing Remarks for the Defense. God speed, jurists.RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeFri Feb 23 1990 19:4790
    (Insert sight of Dean rising slowly from his desk.  He deliberately and
     dramatically walks toward the jury box with a thoughtful look on his
     legendary face.  He paces back and forth in front of the jury looking
     at the ground with an almost pained look on his face.  Just after the
     point where the silence begins to be uncomfortable he begins his closing
     remarks.)
    

    Ladies and gentlemen of the jury I'd like to express my appreciation for
    your patience throughout this trial.  It hasn't been easy at times.  As
    I promised before the trial began, it wasn't pretty in here.  You've been
    vommitted on, almost frozen to death, and forced to endure some of the
    most bizzare courtroom behavior in the history of the American judicial
    system.  Again, thank you for persevering.

    (Insert another long and dramatic pause by Dean as he begins to get to
     the meat of his remarks ...)

    I want to make this as brief and simple as I can.  (pause) Because this 
    really is a simple case, no matter how much the Assistant District Attorney 
    attempts to complicate and confuse the issues.

    First I'd like you to remember that the Contest Tickets, the "prize" if  
    you will, belonged to my client.  It was HE who was supposed to go to
    the game.  Nazz has confirmed this.  If not for a move out of the area 
    Mr. ACC Chris himself would have been high above courtside at Boston 
    Garden. Since he wasn't able to attend he altruistically decided to give 
    them away by having this contest.  The goal was 2-fold.  First, to give
    someone the opportunity to attend a game in a fashion few of us have
    the opportunity to.  (i.e. in the Press Box)  And secondly to have fun. 
    For everybody.  To generate some chuckles.  To laugh.  To enjoy.  I
    don't there's much doubt that both goals were realized.  Two
    deserving OURGNG regulars got to go to the game (and wasn't it a
    delicious irony that 2 arch-rivals went together?!) and 110 is a lock
    for NoTY.  All would have been fine and dandy if not for the sinister
    workings of the infamous MrT.  But I digress.
    
    To simplify my first point I'll say it in one sentence:

    THEY WERE ACC CHRIS' TICKETS AND HE COULD DO WHATEVER THE HECK HE WANTED 
    WITH 'EM!!

    Secondly is the matter of the bribe offers he received.  Frank Way has
    suggested that ACC failed to live up to the responsibilities of Contest
    Judge by (apparently) toying with the idea of accepting the bribes.  My
    client has steadfastly held to the argument that he was only joking.  That
    the mail messages being exchanged were never meant for public consumption.
    That Mr. Childs and Dr. Midnight violated the spirit of OURGNG by even
    bringing up these charges.  ADA-T feels these bribe considerations were
    important.  Neither side can be "proven".  Let me state (simply) the
    only thing that really matters on this issue:

    NEITHER CHILDS NOR BABY DOC WON ANYTHING, SO WHO CARES WHETHER ACC CHRIS
    WAS JOKING OR NOT????  IT DOESN'T MATTER.

    Thirdly is the issue of the picking of the contest winner, and it's here
    that the crux of the case lies.  There's no question there was ambiguity
    to The Contest.  There were essentially 2 different contests at work.  One
    for the best entry, the other for an ACC Chris clone.  This was not at all
    clear and my client has suffered tremendously because of this ambiguity.

    (Insert Dean pausing, then making eye contact with each jury member.)

    But you must ask yourself whether any malice was intended, for, in fact,
    a winner to *each* of the contests was declared, with each receiving equal
    prize!  My client *thought* he was being clever by this.  It turns out
    to have been a huge mistake.  BUT, ladies and gentlemen, wasn't this 
    the best alternative???  Wasn't this the best of all possible worlds???
    Didn't this solution accomplish more than any other possibly could have,
    in terms of fairness, equity, and compassion????  I think the answer is
    yes, but ultimately it's up to you to decide.  

    Finally there's the matter of the prosecuting attorney, Assistant DA MrT.
    Can you believe this man?  Can you trust this man??  Can you even hope
    that his diatribes have been true, his motives pure?

    This is the man who's offered favors in exchance for testimony.  Who's
    a convicted forgerer.  Who's had a sizeable track record of SPORTS
    obfuscation.  Who's drank heavily on the job.  Who's poked fun at the
    handicapped.  

    Is *THIS* the man who you're going to allow my client to be condemned by?

    I hope not.  But regardless we will accept your fair and just decision.

    Thank you.


- Dean
    
110.1132Almost sorry it's over....CNTROL::CHILDSHey Fish, GET IN THE BOATFri Feb 23 1990 20:097
    
    thanks guys it's been a great two weeks. Hats off to Chris who really 
    tore me apart on the witness stand.
    
    and T what can one say nobody does it better....
    
    mike
110.1133Court is adjourned - Bailiff, escort the Jury to their NotesfileDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Feb 23 1990 20:3435
	Noters of the Jury:

The formal charges against Mr. Knorr are:

	Indecent Extrapolation
	Wire Fraud
	Cabalism

Let us see how Webster defines these charge:

Indecent - Offensive to good taste
Extrapolation - Inferring unknown information from known information

*Indecent Extrapolation - Feeding non-factual speculation to contestants
*in an offensive manner.

Wire - the Network/VAXNotes TM, VAXMail TM
Fraud - Deliberate deception for unlawful gain, a swindle, a trick

*Wire Fraud - Using the Net, Notes and Mail to trick or deceive contestants

*Cabalism - Participating in a conspiracy


	Jurists, you are hereby charged with determining the guilt or
innocence of Mr. Knorr on EACH of these 3 charges. You will be returning
3 verdicts, not just one.  Please remember, that the defendant must be 
guilty in your opinion, beyond a reasonable doubt. Please give yourself
time to discuss this and to reach a unanimous decision if you can.
	The guilty verdict on Each charge must be agreed upon unanimously. 
Any other decision renders the defendant not guilty.
	We will discuss the matter of sentencing at a later date, if
it becomes appropriate. The 'Saw and I will have a discussion.

	JJ
110.1134Jes' stirrin' the pot!!!DWOVAX::EROSDon't touch the ring, vic!Fri Feb 23 1990 20:3430
110.1135LegalitiesCGVAX2::REEVEMon Feb 26 1990 12:265
    Let's not forget two legal points:
    
    -There must be the presence of malicious intent,
    
    -There must be a violation of the LAW.
110.1136COOKIE::MJOHNSTONVigilantes for a brighter futureMon Feb 26 1990 13:3112
                     ALRIGHT.... WHO'S THE WISEASS!!!!!!

	When they said we would be sequestered, nobody said NOTHING about
spending the weekend in a leaky tent with a bunch of dudes with GAS problems.

                   Is this somebody's idea of a JOKE!?!?!?!

	Or is this perhaps some type of ploy designed to ensure that a bunch of
pissed off jurors bring home a guilty verdict? Hmmmmmm?!

Expiring Mimes want to know
Mike JN
110.1137RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOMill bound in 12 hours...Mon Feb 26 1990 15:3017
    Tony, er Foo-Bear,
    
    How correct.  ACC chris used anti-carolina sentiment to get rid
    of my entry - because he knew it was better than Onan's.  Chris
    also LIED in 1093, because he said the shirt had A bumper sticker
    on it, when in fack (tm) it had more than 1!!!
    
    It's obvious he wanted Dan to win, because Dan says nothing but
    the obvious in his note - the Jordan thing is a JOKE, cause any
    rotis hoop player will pick Jordan #1 due to his numbers - it doesn't
    take loyalty or anything.  Dan outwardly lies about him being the
    only one to defend Worthy, when in Fack (tm) I was the first to
    defend Worthy, with Dan jumping in later and taking the credit (as
    usual).  The Sam Perkins think is a joke.  THe JR Reid praise is
    damning priase, I.E., I'll root for JR cause I hat ethe Celtics.
    
    JD
110.1138Red Man...CAM::WAYWith malice toward noneMon Feb 26 1990 15:3911
Wow....back from vacation, and yous guys been at it good.

I'm still back in the .980 range, and struggling to catch up.

However, I have to say that ACC Chris rose a couple of points (at least)
in my judgement, when I found out that he chews tobacco.  A right and
manly thing to do....

Chainsaw

PS  Does he use a spitoon????
110.1139CNTROL::CHILDSlow altitude earth orbit, me? ha-haMon Feb 26 1990 15:418
    
    and let's not forget the beers Onan bought him.......
    
    the fix was in...
    
    ;^)
    
    
110.114018557::WAYWith malice toward noneTue Feb 27 1990 15:3828
Boy this catching up deal is tough....

In case any of you are wondering, all last week I was playing
myself (Thersites) in the production of Troilus and Cressida being
presented by the Yale Rep theatre this year.....


Now, to reply to a shot from ACC Crispy Kritter long about .1064,
I'd like to point out to Mr Snore, that in comparing my entry to 
Dan's, I was *not* complaining that I didn't win.  All alon my
contention has been that I'm pissed off about being duped into
believing it was a fair and square contest.  I threw my entry
into the ring early on (I believe it was the first song
parody in the contest) to get things going.  At that point in
time, I wasn't even sure that I would be around to use the tix.

So, it is more my moral sense of right, integrity, and honesty that
is offended, that any sense of loss in a materialistic sense.

And after reading the twistings of ACC's psyche throught the last
1000 replies or so, I'd remind him of what my creator (W. Shakespeare)
said:

	And finally, to thine own self be true, then thou
	canst not be false to any man.

Humbly, 
Thersites
110.1143Still at it, eh, T ???34223::HUNTSend lawyers, guns, and money ...Tue Feb 27 1990 16:5617
110.114410881::DEVLIN_JOTHe Mountain is out !!Tue Feb 27 1990 16:599
    Yeah, but Mike, er Bob, Soup let Dan enter twice, against the
    rules - yet nothing happened.  He chastised me for anti-UNC
    feelings, yet didn't Mr. Ross - who has openly ranked on James
    Worthy and Deano and UNC for years - yet Ross said nothing.
    
    Thank God this note has a true, outstanding, patriot like MrT -
    or we might all spin in the whirlpool of lost hope.
    
    JD
110.11468596::MJOHNSTONVigilantes for a brighter futureTue Feb 27 1990 17:2539
[ The lipstick smeared face of the Jury Foreman appears in the doorway and
peers about frantically ]

     Bailiff?    BAILIFF?!?!!??     B A I L I F F F F F F !!!!!!?!?!??!?!

DAMMIT H'AWK! WHERE THE HELL ARE... oh.. HI there.

Look. You need to get some supplies for the Jury:

	16 Large pizzas with everything except anchovies.
	One case Jack Daniels
	One case Glenlivet
	One case Jim Beam
	One case Stolichnaya Vodka
	One small jar olives
	One wheel barrow ice cubes
	One gross trojans
	Four cases Samuel Adams
	One quart of Yukon Jack for Kim Bassinger
	One large tub of honey
	One shop vac
	Three strobe lights
	One jar Cheez Whiz
	One snorkel
	One ball peen hammer
	One set bagpipes
	One finger paint kit
	One autographed picture of Tipper Gore
	Six pounds of raw liver

Oh.... and Eighteen boxes of kleenex

	Thanks H'awk, you're a lifesaver.
	
		OH YEAH.... TWELVE PACKAGES OF LIFESAVERS!!!!

			whew. This deliberatin' is thirsty work

				Mike JN
110.1147The Battle Hymn of OURGNG County18557::WAYWith malice toward noneTue Feb 27 1990 17:3332
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of MrT
He has fought for Light and Right, and for Troof and Liberty
He has loosed his mighty tongue-lashing on Crooked ACC
His troof goes marching on.....

Glory, Glory Prosecution, Glory Glory Prosecution,
Glory, Glory Prosecution, His Troof goes marching on.

From the confines of his wheelchair he has given it his all
He orated, and berated and never let Old Glory fall,
He has waded in and dealt with all da Rev Smif's rancid gall,
His troof goes marching on.....

Glory, Glory Prosecution, Glory Glory Prosecution,
Glory, Glory Prosecution, His Troof goes marching on.

I have seen him in the watchfires of the OUGNG County Camps
They have builded him an altar in the evening dews and damps
He has fought for all that righteous Troof which lights Miss Liberty's Lamp
His Troof goes marching on....

Glory, Glory Prosecution Glory Glory Prosecution,
Glory, Glory Prosecution, His Troof goes marching on.

In the beauty of OURGNG County, T has fought hypocrisy,
He has sacrified his legs and takes the pain to make us free,
As he fought the good fight with honest integrity,
His troof goes marching on....

Glory, Glory Prosecution Glory Glory Prosecution,
Glory, Glory Prosecution, His Troof goes marching on.

110.114910881::DEVLIN_JOTHe Mountain is out !!Tue Feb 27 1990 17:395
    Saw,
    
    I got tears running down my cheek - just bootiful, simply bootiful..
    
    Sarge
110.1151JD & T, a tale of a hooker and *his* pimp32071::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayTue Feb 27 1990 17:5146
    >ACC chris used anti-carolina sentiment to get rid
    >of my entry - because he knew it was better than Onan's.

That's enough!!  Better than mine?  Hah!  Not even in the
same league.  All you did was mangle and fracture original
verse without paying proper attention to the original structure.
Your abuse of existing works was morally and intellectually
comtemptable. 

    >Dan outwardly lies about him being the
    >only one to defend Worthy, when in Fack (tm) I was the first to
    >defend Worthy,

Bullshit.  I never claimed to be the only one to defend Worthy,
but I was most certainly the first.  And if the old notes still exist,
you can find the evidence there.  I even remember the
exact context (which I'm sure you don't).  And if that evidence
isn't good enough, we can always ask the original antagonist.
I'm sure he'll corroborate my evidence and show the flimsy
nature of yours.

>The Sam Perkins think is a joke.

No, the joke is the one the Asst. Drunken Attorney,
Tailgunner T, played on you, you witless dupe.  Not only did
you attempt to submit a good entry (despite the fractured
poetic form of it), but it was Tailgunner T who falsely exposed
the anti-UNC content.  And you let him get away with it.  He
used you most heinously, for I believed your true intent, as
did he.

Thus dumped on by Tailgunner T, what recourse did you have
when he attempted to use you a second time (Fool me once,
shame on you.  Fool me twice...).  Not only was he successful
in getting your entry NOT to be considered by the contest
judge, but then he enlisted you in support of his immoral 
intentions.  And there you were, swallowing the bait all
over again.

Shameful, just like the ex-hooker who can't resist leaning
against the lightpost and trying to get picked up by a passing
motorist.

When are you going to learn from your mistakes?

Dan, honest contest winner
110.115218557::WAYWith malice toward noneTue Feb 27 1990 17:579
Did anyone ever notice the phenomenon of the 'honest' man?

A long time ago, I learned that people who continually boast of
their honesty, and continually reinforce that fact to other, 
usually are the ones that ain't so honest?

Funny how it works...

Oh well....
110.115310881::DEVLIN_JOTHe Mountain is out !!Tue Feb 27 1990 18:0913
    Dan, Dan, Dan,
    
    First off, your entry was as creative as Joe Walton's play calling
    on 3rd and long.  'nuff said.  Second, T didn't use me, he used
    Acc - who used T's ramblings about my 'intentions' to disqualify
    my entry - since ACC knew it was much better than your ego-massaging
    entry.  Third, since the Worty protagonist is also your co-conspirator
    in this mess, I doubt he'd be the best source to go to.
    
    You entry would have been creative if the contest was geared for
    CPA's...
    
    JD
110.1154Honest Abe Lincoln. Obviously a hoax.32071::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayTue Feb 27 1990 19:279
>A long time ago, I learned that people who continually boast of
>their honesty, and continually reinforce that fact to other, 
>usually are the ones that ain't so honest?

Aside from the above fluff (and fluffier fluff I never did see), have
you any proof (or reason to think, for that matter) that I haven't
been honest?

Dan, accused but never convicted of anything.
110.1155Would McGovern have accepted an appointment from Nixon? No.32071::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayTue Feb 27 1990 19:3321
    >T didn't use me, he used
    >Acc - who used T's ramblings about my 'intentions' to disqualify
    >my entry - since ACC knew it was much better than your ego-massaging
    >entry.

Tailgunner T abused you mercilessly.  You thought you had
an honest chance to win, but after his documented shenanigans,
he took that chance away from you.  And for that, you cozy right
up to him during the trial.  Show a little spine, man!

   >Third, since the Worty protagonist is also your co-conspirator
   > in this mess, I doubt he'd be the best source to go to.

Since I wasn't in on any conspiracy, I have no co-conspirator.
Obviously you aren't so sure of your facts since you didn't
address any of the issues, just resorted to try and discredit
some who do know the facts.

'Tis a shame that the dupes are so willing.

Dan
110.115618557::WAYWith malice toward noneWed Feb 28 1990 09:3116
Dan, why is it that the scales on your eyes are sOOOOOO thick that
I have to explain everything to you....;^)

What you call fluff is something that I have experienced in my life.

The people who I've encountered in my lifetime who have integrity,
honesty etc never needed to say it.  You just kind of knew from
being around them.  ON the other hand, a lot of the people who always
tooted their own horn about their virtue, had things to hide a lot
of time....

So, since you're always signing off "Honest contest winner", I thought
I'd take a good natured shot at that...

later dude,
'Saw
110.1157ADAWAY3218::REEVEWed Feb 28 1990 11:024
    re .1156
    
    Guess that's why you are always talking about truth and integrity--
    maybe someone will believe it someday.
110.115810881::DEVLIN_JOTHe Mountain is out !!Wed Feb 28 1990 11:2210
    Dan, what Frank is trying to point out, can be explained nicely
    by applying this quote from General  George Doriot:
    
    "Courage must be sincere.  It can't be a show-off type of thing.
     The real courageous man is someone who does something courageous
    and nobody's watching him."
    
    Replace 'courage' with 'honesty' and it works also.
    
    JD
110.1160CAM::WAYWith malice toward noneWed Feb 28 1990 12:0118
110.1162AXIS::ROBICHAUDDon King knows boxing...Nuff said!Wed Feb 28 1990 15:564
    	Oh boy, just what we need, another trial.  Hey T your a veteran.
    Why don't you and CPA Schneider settle this in a manly way?
    
    				/Don
110.1163GENRAL::WADEI'm an excellent driver.....Wed Feb 28 1990 16:075
    
    What's that old adage?  "If you lie down with dogs, you're bound
    to get fleas".  Poor ACC Chris..........
    
    Claybone
110.1165CAM::WAYWith malice toward noneWed Feb 28 1990 16:4533
/Don...

Nah, Violence proves nothing...  Even we vets, the few, the proud
the utterly Manly-Mon individuals, know that there are times
when the pen is far mightier than the sword.

Last night, I had the occasion to re-read some of the greatest
documents ever penned in the history of the world.  I read
Jefferson.  Who could ever forget those immortal words:

	"We hold these Truths to be Self-evident.."

And Lincoln:

	"So that government of the people, by the people, for
	 the people shall not perish from the Earth...

The writings of these and other fine men who governed our nation,
or caused that government to be created, have deeply affected me,
and renewed in me the burning fires which every true American
posesses.

No, it would be wrong to call Dan into the playground, to try
and Duke it out.  That would prove nothing.  Instead, two men
of wit can entertain thousands in here with their bickering and
more cerebral pursuits...


So /Don, much as some in here might get an orgasmic, testosteronal
thrill by seeing me call Dan out, I will not lower myself to the
level of some members of the animal kingdom and resort to violence...

'Saw
110.1166whatsamatta Saw, Skeered? ;^)CNTROL::CHILDSlow altitude earth orbit, me? ha-haWed Feb 28 1990 17:061
    
110.1167AXIS::ROBICHAUDBeware the Ides of March 1stWed Feb 28 1990 17:095
    	Jefferson owned slaves and Lincoln pulled strings to get his
    son out of serving in the army.  You never see Arnold doing stuff
    like that.  8^)
    
    				/Don
110.1168More to it than that, /DonSHALOT::HUNTSend lawyers, guns, and money ...Wed Feb 28 1990 17:1310
110.1170Tailgunner T offers no proof, as proven hereHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 28 1990 17:2431
>    1. Your entry has been proven to be totally non-compliant with the
>       rules for entries.

No, it hasn't in the least.

>    2. You "won" anyway.

I was the favorite.  So it wasn't much of a surprise.

>    3. You admit to having been involved in a series of furtive contacts
>       with the dishonest contest operator, and cain only axe that we
>       accept your word that you were "convinced" and not coerced into
>       relinquishing half of first prize in order to maintain your
>       ill-gotten hold on it.               

There was nothing furtive about the mail Chris sent me asking me to
take Doug.  That doesn't amount to proof of anything.

>    4. You either sat in as the faux Judge Flopner, or facilitated Crooked
>       Chris Knorr in that role by allowing him set host access to node
>       HUAXIA.

Again, not only are you wrong with the claims, and not only have you no
proof of the claim, but it doesn't amount to any proof that I won the contest
with anything more than my fine entry.

JD, I can't be less impressed than with a quote from a career militarist.  He 
made his living learning how to kill people.  I'm not interesting in his 
philosophy of the living.

Dan
110.1171Admit your sin dan...HEURIS::METZGERI did not see elvisWed Feb 28 1990 17:3012
>>    2. You "won" anyway.

>I was the favorite.  So it wasn't much of a surprise.
    
    Was somebody posting Odds and I missed it ?
    
    I believe dan's "winning" the "context" came as a shock to most of us
    that entered it expecting a fair competition.
    
    
    Metz
    
110.1172Who'd try me? Certainly not a lightweight like ADA-T.HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 28 1990 17:3213
    >I think poor confessed ACCrook is as much victim as perpetrator
    >in this.  I think our unindicted co-conspirator neighbor here...    
    >... would be proved the mastermind, if only we could get the goods
    >on him.  

So after all the public accusations (just like the real Joe McCarthy) and
the false bravado (just like the real Joe McCarthy) and the poor in-court
strategy (just like you-know-who) and behavior (ditto) and the drunkenness
(need I say it) and even a subconcious confession on whom he's patterned
his life after (Joe McVictim, eh?) Tailgunner T ADMITS that he has NEVER
had a shred of evidence that the contest winner was anything but legitamate.

Dan
110.1173The real question is: Why did I score so low?HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 28 1990 17:366
    >I believe dan's "winning" the "context" came as a shock to most of us
    >that entered it expecting a fair competition.

Hardly, Metz, hardly.  Read the notes.

Dan
110.1174RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOTHe Mountain is out !!Wed Feb 28 1990 17:4713
    Dan,
    
    First of all, wifout ol' George, there very well may not be a Digital.
    
    Second, how were you the favorite - 'cept in your own large, ego
    filled mind, unless, of course, you and Chrisssssss had already
    made a deal.
    
    Third, the more one reads the notes, the more one realizes how devoid
    of cleverness, originality, creativity, enthusiasm, and substance
    your entry is.  
    
    JD
110.1175CAM::WAYWith malice toward noneWed Feb 28 1990 18:275
Dan, speaking candidly, your entry wasn't exactly the work
of a latter day Mark Twain you know....

Chainsaw_who's_getting_tired_of_this_trial....

110.1177Still holding on to the lightpost, JD?HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 28 1990 19:1218
    >First of all, wifout ol' George, there very well may not be a Digital.

Which doesn't make his opinions any more or less relevant to the subject
at hand.

    >Second, how were you the favorite - 'cept in your own large, ego
    >filled mind, unless, of course, you and Chrisssssss had already
    >made a deal.

Read the notes.

    >Third, the more one reads the notes, the more one realizes how devoid
    >of cleverness, originality, creativity, enthusiasm, and substance
    >your entry is.  

It's a good thing you weren't the judge then, eh?

Dan
110.1178That's not Robin Givens; it's Don King in dragHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayWed Feb 28 1990 19:157
    >Why not take a load off your chest...  Just what *was* said
    >during those furtive negotiations just before the contest's denouement?

But, TailgunnerT I've already told you what was said.  Is the mind slipping
away so fast?  And they let you try the case?

Dan, unindicted due to total lack of evidence (not to mention not-guilty)
110.1179PNO::HEISERfur sure doodeWed Feb 28 1990 20:021
    What a waste of disk space.  What ever happended to talking Sports?
110.1180Yeah, this really has gone on too long.VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye.&quot;Wed Feb 28 1990 20:040
110.1181Battle of the Titanic Egos. 8^)AXIS::ROBICHAUDBeware the Ides of March 1stThu Mar 01 1990 10:311
    
110.1183RE: .1182 HAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!11AXIS::ROBICHAUDBeware the Ides of March 1stThu Mar 01 1990 14:271
    
110.1184MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Thu Mar 01 1990 14:4670
    
    The courthouse doors open and two figures stride in. They head directly
    to the judge's chambers and rap on the door.  On the inside, they
    hear the quick movement of feet, the swishing of clothing, and what
    sounds like zippers.  The judge, flattening his hair with one hand,
    opens the door.
    
    "Yes?  Why Mr. Lufay...who's that you have with you?"
     
    "I AM WHO AM!"
    
    Judge: "Well, you don't *look* like Popeye!"
    
    "WHAT HATH THOU SAYETH TO ME?"
    
    Judge:  "That's a very bad lisp you have there."
    
    "WHY, I'LL MAKE YOUR TONGUE CLEAVE SO HARD..."
    
    Lufay:  Your honor, it's GOD.  You know, the big guy?" [points to
            ceiling]
    
    Judge:  Where did you find him?
    
    Lufay:  In God's country, where I hunt.
    
    Judge:  Well, what does he want?
    
    Lufay:  Says He was called here from the jury room.  Said there
            were all kinds of cries of 'God help him' and 'God help
            us' and 'as God is my judge...'  I think we may need him
            later. After all, He *does* know everything.
    
    Judge:  Then have him sit down.  God knows....I mean who knows how
            long that damned, er, darn jury is going to be in there.
            Would you like some coffee?
    
    THANK YOU, BUT...[whispers in judge's ear]
    
    Judge:  Oh, that's down the hall, last door on the left.
    
    AND THANK YOU, MR. LUFAY FOR TAKING ME HERE.  AND YOU SHALL HAVE
    THAT LITTLE REWARD YOU ASKED FOR.  IT WAS RAIN, WAS IT?  SUPPOSED
    TO BE GOOD FOR DUCKS.  WOULD, SAY, FORTY DAYS BE ENOUGH?
    
    Lufay:  Oh yes, sir!  And the nights, too...don't forget about the
            nights!
    
    UH...YES. SAY, [eyes Mr. Lufay, standing there in his velour shirt,
    waders, Elmer Fudd hat, his 12 guage in one hand and a game bag
    containing two mergansers and a mallard] YOU ARE A DUCK HUNTER,
    AREN'T YOU?
    
    Lufay:  [thinking] (Nice catch.)
    
    "WHAT?"
    
    Lufay: [quickly] "Uh...Natch!  I said natch!" (Damn..this guy's
           the real McCoy...he knows my every thought...)
    
    "AHEM...JUST WATCH YOURSELF.  AS MY WORD IS ALWAYS GOOD, YOU SHALL
    HAVE YOUR RAIN, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WANT IT FOR YOUR WETLANDS, THAT
    YOU AND WHAT SPRINGS FROM YOUR LOINS SHALL ENJOY THE FRUITS THEREOF.
    AND THE DUCKS THAT FLY THEREFROM SHALL BE AS NUMEROUS AS THE SANDS
    OF THE DESERT.  MR LUFAY, THAT IS A MOST GENEROUS REQUEST OF YOURS,
    OR WAS THERE ANOTHER REASON?
    
    Lufay:  Uh..no, no, Sir.  You hit the nail right on the head, you
            did.  Say, why don't we sit down in case we're needed later.
    
110.1185COOKIE::MJOHNSTONVigilantes for a brighter futureThu Mar 01 1990 16:2215
Bailiff Haw'k?

You may inform the Court that the Jury has reached a UNANIMOUS Verdict. Given
that it may be difficult to reach all interested parties at this hour of the
afternoon, you may inform them that when court is reconvened tomorrow, Friday
morning, March 2nd, 1990, at 8:00 Mountain Standard Time (10:00 Eastern
Standard Time), we are prepared to announce our verdict.

The Jury would like to extend thanks to everyone for their patience during this
painful time of evaluation and Solomonic deliberation. A special thanks to you
Bailiff, for prompt and efficient acquisition of necessary supplies and bimb..
uh... necessary supplies required by the Jurors.

Sincerely
Mike JN (Jury Foreskin  ! #$*()!@#......  damn @#$% ....   ForeMAN!!)
110.1186Announcments will be forthcomingDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceThu Mar 01 1990 16:597
	I expect all to be present, except the defendant, who is out
of town until Monday. Sentencing, if there is any to be done at all,
will be done on Monday. Also, I wish to see the jury in their
notesfile before they are dismissed.

	Jim
110.1187Will it be justice (INNOCENT) or a railroad (GUILTY)???RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeThu Mar 01 1990 23:3931
    I'm back and will be present in court tomorrow at the appointed hour.
    
    If found guilty Judge, no sentencing will be required.  I'm on record
    as saying if found guilty I'd exile myself from SPORTS and have every
    intention of sticking to my pledge.
    
    I ran an honest contest and actually went way above the call of duty 
    to arrive at an equitable solution.  If I'd known I was gonna be brought 
    up on charges and have my integrity questioned I would've done things 
    differently - like conduct a boring lottery or something.
    
    But if MrT's jive-bull has convinced this fine jury otherwise, so be
    it.  I've been out of town for a week so lord only knows what 
    kinds of deals he's been offering.  Plus I notice that
    he's stepped up his propaganda campaign against me, presenting 
    arguments after the whole darn trial was over, despite the fact that 
    the jury had full access to reading 110. (Where have you been, Judge 
    McFair?????)
    
    One request from the Moderator though.  I'd like 110 to be shut down
    after the verdict.  If I'm found INNOCENT no doubt MrT will want to go on
    several long-diatribes about how I bought the jury, or was guilty and
    got off on a technicality, or whatever.  If found innocent I think my
    character deserves a break.  
    
    Waiting patiently for the decision,
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    
110.1188Jury has served wellDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Mar 02 1990 00:0612
	None of what was said after the jury went to the closed conference
was admitted as evidence. I believe it had no effect on the Jury whatsoever.
It was never mentioned in discussing testimony.

	We will handle sentencing if the time comes. 

	Also, the entire JURY Conference will be downloaded to this note,
after the decision has been announce


	JJ
110.1189The time has come for the VerdictDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceFri Mar 02 1990 00:1116

	BAILIFF >  Oyez, Oyez, The OURGNG County Court is now in session.
		   Judge McFall presiding...

	JUDGE > Order in the Court! Order in the Court! Kelly! Sit Down!
	(turns toward Foreman Mike JN)
		Mr. Foreman, has the jury reached a verdict on all three
		charges?

	FOREMAN > We have, your honor.

	JUDGE > At approximately 10 AM Eastern Time, this 2nd day of March,
		1990, will you read the three verdicts?

		I will be available at approximately 11:15 AM Eastern Time
110.1190MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Fri Mar 02 1990 10:4397
    
    The first rays of sunlight pass through the dusty window and settle
    on the cracked and crumbling wall of the small room.  The cockroches,
    like vampires, seek the safety of the darkness.  Outside, the neon
    sign reading "HOT L" blinks on, then off again for the last time
    until sunset.  An ambulance siren is heard off in the distance,
    and a figure sits bolt upright on the thinly covered spring-mattreess
    bed.  Beads of sweat cover his brow and upper lip.
    
    [Rod Serling voiceover] "Picture in your mind's eye a man who is
    running away...from himself.  Imagine if you will one ACC Chris,
    who is undergoing a trial not of sight and sound, but of mind...
    A trial that can only be found in The Twilight Zone."
    
    The figure in the bed, realizing his surroundings, grabs the TV
    remote control and turns on the set, curious of course, but at the
    same time fearing the words of condemnation that perhaps would be
    issued that day from the Sportscounty Courthouse.  As he flips the
    channels looking for Sesame Street, Willard Scott or some other
    mindless diversion, he realizes that every channel is the same:
    a scene that looks like Vatican Square jammed with people, but also
    looking vaguely familiar.  He cocks his head and listens.
    
    "This is Howard Go-Sell, speaking to you from the square in front
    of Sportscounty Courthouse, where today the struggle of the indomitable
    ACC Chris, will ultimately end.  We've seen a veritable plethora
    of evidence presented this week, and to-DAY, in this courthouse,
    the speculation, the wondering, the agonizing will all end, as the
    decision of the appointed jury will be announced, later on.  I'll
    be right back to talk with my first guest, Muhammed Ali...
    
    *click*
    
    This is Jim McKay, coming to you live from Sportscounty Courthouse,
    where we await the announcement concerning the trial of ACC Chris.
    Later today we will find out if ACC will feel the thrill of victory
    or the agony of defeat..
    
    *click*
    
    ...and this is Al Michaels now signing off from Courthouse Square.
    We'll be back on the air, barring any earthquakes, just before the
    verdict is announced.  And if you think ACC has a chance, I have
    to ask you one question: "Do you believe in miracles?"
    
    *click*
    
    Thissbee OJ Simpson blabba bludda didda dadda ACC Chris. Bladda
    blidda blooda budda....
    
    *click*
    
    Hi. This is Dick Clark, from high above Sportscounty Courthouse
    Square, and I want to tell you that this place is absolutely rockin'
    this morning in anticipation of the trial announcement.  I'll be
    right back with my special guests, Gladys Knight (no relation to
    Bobby) and Chubby Checker, but first this word from Clearasil...
    
    *Click*
    
    This is Baba Wawa, and one of my guests is basketball hawwof famer,
    Bob Cousy.  Bob, what are your thoughts?
    
    Well, Babwa, the issues have been battered awound kwite a bit, and
    I was also kwite supwised by the intensity of the matchups.  MrT
    came out of the gates with the wunning game and put the pwessure
    on early, forcing the defense to dig deep and get in the good position
    to webound pwoperly.
    
    "One more question, Mr. Cousy.  If you wewe a twee, what kind of
    twee would you be?"
    
    "I'll bite...Twee Wollins, of course."
    
    My next guest is the hunting hawof famer, Mr. Elmer Fudd.  What
    is your weaction to the trial, Mr. Fudd.
    
    "Why, I wanna bwast dat wat Cwiss for the way hoodwinked the pwecious
    noters of OURGNG. He must think we're all loony toons for bewieving
    his scam.  I tell you it's unpatwiotic, and unamewican...why that
    wotten fwag-burning wascal!  I think I'll sing about it..."
    
    Baba:  "Mind if mr. Cousy and I join you?"
    
    "Not at all."
    
    Together:  "God bwess Amewica, Wand that I Wuv..."
    
    The man with the red eyes flops back down on his perspiration-stained
    pillow and finds the half glass of warm water which is the remains
    of last night's drink. He sips it slowly as he reaches to turn off
    the TV remote.  His head hurts and his temples pound.  Soon he would
    have to head for the courthouse, where his fate awaits him.
    
    
    -Dick
    
110.1191It's gonna be one of THOSE fridays!SASE::SZABOFri Mar 02 1990 10:494
    Thanks, Dick.  Now tell me, what should I use to get the urine out of
    my chair before it starts to smell?  :-)
    
    H'awk
110.1192LEVERS::STROUTwish i was Ocean size...Fri Mar 02 1990 10:587
    
    	Just a little request... I don't think the note should be shut
    down IMMEDIATELY after the announcement of the verdict.  I think
    everyone should get a chance to voice their opinions after it has
    been decreed. 8^)
    
    sean
110.1193CAM::WAYWith malice toward noneFri Mar 02 1990 11:0910
Dick --

I doff my hat to you sir, for this day at least, thou art more
fair than I.

That was freakin' great.  I was laughing sooo hard.  It was tooo much.
And copy me on that remedy for removing pee-pee from seat cushions.

latered,
Chainsawed
110.1194COOKIE::MJOHNSTONVigilantes for a brighter futureMon Mar 05 1990 11:4669
                                  Yeronner!

                              THE JURY IS REDDY!

           We have reached our derision...uh.. that is...decision.

	Being fully aware that the results of this trial could lead to
Serious_Rip_Her_Cushions! (tm), we've deliberated in our minds and in our
hearts and in our Pickemup Trucks and in the Little Boy's Room. It is not a
task we undertook lightly, and we have struggled long and hard.  The
decision of this Jury would have been immeasurably easier if only Mr. Crisp
would have plead insanity and threw himself on the Mercy of the Court.... or
out a window. As it is, a number of our devoted panel are, even now, roaring
drunk and laughing their... whoops! I mean, a number of our devoted panel were
unable to present themselves due to the taxing nature of the work which we have
undertaken on behalf of the entire Conference.

	The testimony we have heard has been startling, sordid, silly and slow.
And at the end of it, we still had to axe ourselves: who is it we believe. It
is with heavy hearts that this Jury formally announces the verdict.  

 In the matter of The People of OURGNG vs. ACC Chris we find the defendant...



	NOT GUILTY on all three counts by virtue of Demonic Possession.  

	We  have concluded that ACC Chris AND AN AS YET UNNAMED CABAL OF NOTERS
IN THIS CONFERENCE have been possessed by the DEBIL! (tm), so we formally
request that the title of this note be changed to:

                      THE CONTEST/THE TRIAL/THE EXORCISM

	Well known and well respected Noters have openly admitted attempts to
bribe, steal, and cheat their way to victory. Friends, who we know in our
hearts to be upright, uptight, and outta sight, have debased themselves with
pernicious and putrid ploys perpetrated upon the populace (Wasn't that fun to
read?). This smacks of the Supernatural, and methinks more the smell of
Brimstone, than An Odor of Sanctity! We have a duty here! We firmly believe
that a closer inspection into this matter will reveal some seriously rotating
heads, and a plethora of Pea Soup!!

	As to the misguided and demon-plagued ACC Chris, it is not our
intention nor our suggestion that he go scott free. However, we WOULD suggest
that the quality of mercy be not strained, but falleth like the gentle rain
from heaven, upon the place below (if ya know what we mean). We have determined
that an OFFICIAL AND MOST SERIOUS BLAM! (tm) should be laid upon the Crisp, but
that the severity and duration be mitigated if he shows the proper spirit in
aiding us in ridding the Conference of this foul miasma emanating from the
nether reaches of the Pit.

Brother Mike JN  Unreconstructed Church of the I D M 
                    [ aka   U C It Don't Matter ]



PS. - If the good noters of this conference agree with us, we must begin to
prepare immediately. A Prelate specializing in Exorcism must be named.
Assistants appointed and annointed. Given the fact that this is the SPORTS
NOTESFILE, suitable talismans must be acquired; ie. Jack Daniels, Holy Green
Sweat Sox, etc.;  /Don must be commissioned to videotape the exercise for later
resale as `/DON'S THE COMPLEAT EXORCIST WORKOUT VIDEO AND GARAGE SALE'. There
is a very real possibility that we might even need to bring in his Asphalted
Horniness, The Poop... uh.. I mean, his Exalted Holiness, The Pope. That's
right. A call may have to go out for the always lovely, yet semi-talented `The
DiNz'. There are thousands of things yet to be done. 

    ARISE, NOTERS OF SPORTS!  YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR DEMONS!!!

110.1195STARVU::MACGREGORMon Mar 05 1990 11:4766
    The story of the Dean, the Devil, and the demise of ACC Chris.
    
    Dean Smith was driving his 1974 AMC Hornet along the back roads of North
Carolina.  The car was back firing and unless he did a lot of body work on 
the car, it wouldn't pass inspection next month.  To top it off, his arch
rival from Indiana University was having another great season.  He needed 
a victory tonight, for his job was on the line, and unless the team drastically
improved, he'd be gone at the end of the season.

While still a few miles from the arena his car ran out of car.  Sputtering
to a stop he pulled it over to the side of the road where not 100 yards in 
front of him he could make out a tow truck traveling this way.  He flashed 
his lights to the driver and stepped out of the car.  The truck turned 
around and pulled in behind the beat-up car.

Out of the red tow truck came a 6 foot 4 man with red hair and eyes that made
your stomach feel on fire.  After a short conversation and a quick look at 
the engine the man offered Dean an interesting deal.  He said that if Dean 
would let the Devil invade his body with freedom to converge with those people 
Dean brought him, then he would give Dean the personnel to win title after 
title.

After some thought, Dean agrees to the taller man, thinking what can it
hurt, besides the fool fixed my car.  Suddenly the car starts up again 
and has a full tank of gas.  Dean, confused but liking this already, drives 
to the arena for his game.  However he feels different, like there was extra 
strength within his body.

Over the next few years UNC and Dean produced many excelling teams, but 
no matter how good the personnel, they never seemed to win the NCAA title.
Dean got concerned about this and talked to the garage man, who he now knew
as the devil.  The devil said to Dean that he had gotten the taste of sweet 
victory in his mouth, but unless he doubled the number of unsuspecting souls 
he stole, the sweet nectar of victory would never be complete.  Dean, starting 
to feel bad about the whole arrangement, wouldn't agree to the new terms, and 
made a pact with the devil to transfer the evil spirits into another being 
and go back to being just an average coach on an average team.
                                        
On the 5th of October in the year 1989, three unsuspecting souls stopped by
the hoops office, at the Mecca, to check the place out.  While the man, his
wife, and his child were leaving the lovely wife asked the receptionist if 
there's anyway they could get Dean's autograph.  After talking for 10 minutes
with 6'9" Pete Chilcutt, who had obviously just finished practice, the door
to Dean's office opens and they see THE DEAN HIMSELF.  The receptionist says,
"Coach Smith, I'd like you to meet Chris and Cheryl Knorr."

After a brief handshake and a quick talk about the upcoming game against Tech, 
Chris's daughter comes throught with her well rehearsed "Go Tar Heels!", at 
which time the Dean started chuckling.  Little did Chris know that the chuckle 
wasn't about the cute daughter and her cheer, but that his soul had been 
lifted of a great evil and it now resided in Chris.

Then it came to pass that Chris held a contest for two tickets to see a
basketball game in one of the finest arenas in the game involving one of
the greatest teams of all time and a new team that was being infected by the
evil spirits that originated in North Carolina.  This contest would cause 
havoc throughout the sports conference in Ditital, where the devils plan 
was discovered by a small group of jurors.
            
Coincidentally, Dean and UNC basketball team is having one of the worst seasons
in over a decade.  Although cleansed of the devil, Dean now couldn't win any
of the big games.

This accudrama has been brought to you by the Do-Dat corporation, whatever it
is, we Do-Dat, and by The Wizard.

110.1196SASE::SZABOMon Mar 05 1990 11:556
    Does this mean that I gotta whack the limp peepee of that nerve-pained
    ADA-T?  I mean, someone's peepee's gotta be whacked.  I didn't buy new
    batteries for my peepee-whacker for nuthin'..........
    
    a desparately seeking to peepee whack,
    Bailiff
110.1197CAM::WAYWith malice toward noneMon Mar 05 1990 12:049
Hawkster, 

I think that when we exorcise the demon (handservant of the DEBIL(tm)
himself) then that's when you should whack the demon's peepee.

That'll teach ol' Satan to be comin' round here and all us good folk...

Whack that peepee!  (we are DEVO, D-E-V-O)
Chainsaw
110.1198Get thee behind me SATAN!!!!!CAM::WAYWith malice toward noneMon Mar 05 1990 12:0823
My brethren ay-und friends!

Do you BELIEVE???  Do you BELIEVE in Miracles?  Do you believe in
the Cleansing Power?  Do you Want to be Hee-yulled?

I say AMEN!  I say AMEN!  I say AMEN!

Now, get on your *knees*  my brethren, and let me lee-yud Yeeewwww
in Pray-yer!

Now we been scourged by the DEBIL(tm), and we been harrassed by the
DEBIL(tm), and the DEBIL(TM) has been laughing at us (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
all of the tiii-yum!

And I'm hee-yer to-dayyyy, to tay-ell yewww, that we, all of us together,
can STOP the DEBIL, and we can say-yuv our brethren who are
possessed!

Are ya with me Brethren???  Do yeewwww be-lee-yuv in Miacles?

Say yey-us!  Say yey-us!  Say yey-us!!!!

Reverend Chainsaw
110.1200Un-believableDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceMon Mar 05 1990 12:4714


	The jury hath spake. The defendant has been found not guilty,
but has been remanded to the custody of the exorcists..

	May God have mercy on his soul!

	Court is dismissed!

	Or in the immortal words of that raw recruit:

	"It's party time, Italian style!"
JJ
110.1201Deny the Works of Da Debil!!!!!CAM::WAYUSS Spadefish, SS 411Mon Mar 05 1990 12:4714
110.1202CAM::WAYUSS Spadefish, SS 411Mon Mar 05 1990 12:4913
I say unto you , My SPORTS Brethren....

Somebody better get a Book, a Bell, and Candles...

We got us an Exorcism to be doing....

(Hey, you, you there, in the back row...Yeah, you!  I did *NOT*
say a Circumcision, I said an Exor*cism*...get it right!!!!)


Amen!

Rev Chainsaw
110.1203We did our job - my conscience is CLEARMAMIE::WENTZELLWhere's that confounded bridge??Mon Mar 05 1990 12:509
    >counts.  It's not up to them to apply a_insanity defense already
    >declined by the "defense."  
    
	No one said he's INSANE        

    >No such verdict has been returned and I DEMAND one !!

	The verdict says "NOT GULITY"
	
110.1204MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Mon Mar 05 1990 12:5514
    
    Re: .1195
    
    >  Out of the red tow truck came a 6 foot 4 man with red hair and
       eyes that made your stomach feel on fire.
    
    I didn't know Ronald McDonald was that tall.
    
    -Dick
    
    P.S.  It's over. Amen.  I just couldn't take another sequestered
    week with those courtroom groupies, the booze, and the fast-food.
    I feel cleansed by our decision.
    
110.1205You Mother Likes Socks That Smell!!!!!CAM::WAYUSS Spadefish, SS 411Mon Mar 05 1990 12:5614
Possession by da DEBIL is not considered insanity under Connecticut
Law.

Let's get to exorcising!

And, BTW, where's /Don?  I'm sure he cain make a buck or two with
the soon to be produced "/Don Exorcising Da Debil in Your Own
Home with Materials Found Around the House Video".....

And, don't forget there's money to be made in the Supernatural
Laundry Detergent Market, with the All New Debil-B-Gone!

latered,
Chainsaw
110.1206***FLASH*** T Rejects Verdict !!! World Shocked!SHALOT::HUNTSend lawyers, guns, and money ...Mon Mar 05 1990 13:0449
110.1207NOT GUILTY and a "W" over the Dukesters. Too much!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeMon Mar 05 1990 13:1537
    Insert cheshire grins on both Dean & ACC Chris as they shake hands
    and then, looking deeply into each others eyes, embrace in a manly bear
    hug.  Tears are streaming down ACC's face as he tries to find the words
    to thank his idol.  Leaving the courtroom Dean confronts the press:
    
    Press:	Congratulations on the win coach!  NOT GUILTY on all
    		3 counts!!  You must be pleased.
    
    Dean:	(With characteristic modesty)  "I am, but I must give the 
    		credit to my seniors and ACC Chris.  They were
    		outstanding."
    
    Press:	"Coach, what do you think the turning point of the trial
    		was?"
    
    Dean:	"Well that's tough to say.  This trial had more ebbs and
    		flows than the Amazon.  But I'd have to say putting ACC
    		on the stand was the difference."
    
    Press:	"Any comments on the courtroom behavior of ADA-T?"
    
    Dean:	"I'd really not comment on that too much, but I don't think
    		it hurt our chances any."
    
    Press:	"ACC Chris, any comments?"
    
    ACC:	"FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD (AND DEAN) ALMIGHTY,
    		I'M FREE AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111"
    
    
    And so it goes.  Thank you one and all.  It's been fun.  A pleasant
    diversion from the pre-NCAA tournament blues.  And thanks to an
    outstanding and fair jury I'm pleased to say I'll be around to enjoy 
    March Madness with OUR GANG!
    		
    
    - ACC Chris
110.1209CAM::WAYUSS Spadefish, SS 411Mon Mar 05 1990 13:3413
And the ACC Chris camp shouldn't be so quick to be celebratin'.

We got us a Exorcism to perform.  The verdict was Not Guilty
byt reason of Possession By the Debil.

Now, in OURGNG County we don't take too kindly to folks walkin'
around Possessed By Da Debil.  So, y'all gotta be coming in
and listenin' to the Rev's do a little preachin', and for 
the Choir to be doin' a little testifyin'....

Ain't no one gonna be leavin' just yet....

Rev Chainsaw
110.1210PWRVAX::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Mon Mar 05 1990 13:593
       Well ol' Rev. Smif finally won SOMETHING eh? Maybe he should quit
    his other job.
                                         Denny
110.1211OK, can we write-lock this now?VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye.&quot;Mon Mar 05 1990 14:070
110.1212Enough already ...SHALOT::HUNTSend lawyers, guns, and money ...Mon Mar 05 1990 14:166
    Puh-puh-please write lock this sucker now.
    
    Seems like the only way to open up the windows around here and let
    in some fresh air. 
    
    Bob Hunt
110.1213LEVERS::STROUTwish i was Ocean size...Mon Mar 05 1990 14:244
    
    	What?????????  The exorcism hasn't even started yet.  RELAX!
    
    sean
110.1214another vote for write-lock...CNTROL::CHILDSWatch out MSG, here I come GO FRIARSMon Mar 05 1990 14:368
    
    the fun is over......
    
    We had a trial he won. no big deal life goes on....
    
    don't recall Bob Hunt calling me a liar....
    
    mike
110.1215MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Mon Mar 05 1990 14:4511
    
    And as ACC and the Dean step into the rented limo, ACC reaches for
    the cassette tapes to find his well worn copy for the UNC fight
    song.  "Here," says the Dean. It's a Dylan tape that I brought just
    for the occasion.
    
    And as the limo pulls away, we hear the opening chords of "It's
    All Over Now, Baby Blue."
    
    -Dick
    
110.1216More like "Tangled Up In (Carolina) Blue"!RHETT::KNORRInnocent Contest JudgeMon Mar 05 1990 15:065
    Let's leave the Minnesotian out of this, Dick!  ;^)
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
110.1217Would whoever write-locked this please send me mail.VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye.&quot;Wed Mar 07 1990 13:280
110.1218'twas me, I done itDEC25::MCFALLSpaced, without a traceWed Mar 07 1990 14:2016
	Truth be told, I write-locked this note. The majority of
public opinions I have seen indicated that people had had enough of it.
I should have identified myself sooner, as it caused Jeff to take
some unnecessary heat, and for that I apologize. 
	I joined in the note as judge more to keep an eye on things
than anything else. I also warned people about 3 weeks ago that this
was losing interest to the majority of noters, and this has proven true.
	There is nothing to stop you from starting an "Exorcism" Topic
if you so desire. Let note 110 stand on it's own merits, but I
think it's finished. I got no "pressure" from anyone to do it, but I felt
it was the right thing to do..

	Send me mail if you think differently,

	Jim M