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Conference 7.286::sports_90

Title:OURGNG::SPORTS - Digital's daily tabloid
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Moderator:VAXWRK::NEEDLE
Created:Thu Dec 14 1989
Last Modified:Fri Dec 17 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:438
Total number of notes:50420

94.0. "New York Mets Note" by SOJU::FRANCUS (Mets in '90) Wed Dec 27 1989 19:18

    Once again this is the NY Mets note, arrogant, cocky, and a who gives a
    hoot attitude. In the tradition of the every other year division
    championship (when Gooden is around all year) we again expect to see
    many converts to our way of thinking come September 1990.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
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94.1REFINE::ASHEWalt's Wackos: 1989 FFL champions!Wed Dec 27 1989 20:051
    Which pitcher's on the block and who's gonna be the catcher?
94.2COBRA::DINSMOREMcfall=francessa , true sport wizardsThu Dec 28 1989 09:2217
    
    talk on WFAN yesterday  afternoon  of a mets-yanks  possible deal
    
    
    jusr rumour  mind you   darling and a another play to yanks for
    kelly... if the other player is have decent  [naw, marshall wont
    due]  this would be a good deal for both.. would hate to see  kelly
    
    go..[ mets would love him] but darling can pitch...
    
    
    any comments?
    
    
    Dinz
    
94.3Signed -MikeSHANE::PACIELLOThu Dec 28 1989 09:548
    Darling is a decent starter, I'm not sure that he has the
    capabilities to be an "ace", but he'd be a good addition to the
    staff. The second player in this deal makes the difference...
    Think the Met's would toss in Dave Magaden? He'd be a very good
    3rd base prospect....not to mention the guy can hit....I'd
    do that deal...
    
    -Miie
94.5SOJU::FRANCUSMets in '90Thu Dec 28 1989 13:206
    What were Kelly's stats?? What position? Sorry I don't really follow
    the Yankees, but I have heard good things bout Kelly, but what
    are his vital statisitics.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
94.6AJCVAX::COTEAlThu Dec 28 1989 13:233
Plays center field. Tends to dive at low liners and have them bounce off
his haid.
94.7STAR::YANKOWSKASFFL A rules!Thu Dec 28 1989 13:259
    re .5:
    
    Roberto Kelly's numbers last year: .302, 9 HR, 48 RBI, 35 SB.  He's
    also very good defensively.  Kelly would be an excellent addition to
    the Mets, although my gut reaction is that the Yankees would be very
    reluctant to part with him.
    
    
    py
94.8even upSOJU::FRANCUSMets in '90Thu Dec 28 1989 13:2614
    Darling would be the pitcher most likely to go. Ojeda is older so there
    won't be as much interest in him.
    
    Darling has always had a knock against him. But his record speaks for
    itself. I happen to be a big Gooden fan; given a random game I would
    rather see Gooden start than Darling. Given a one game situation I'm
    not so sure. Darling blew it in game 7 of th 1988 NLCS (actually it was
    more the Mets infield that blew it) but he really pitched incredibly
    well in the '86 playoffs.
    
    Why not Darling for Kelly even up????
    
    The Crazy Met
    
94.9SHANE::PACIELLOThu Dec 28 1989 13:2624
    Roberto Kelly's stats from last season:
    
    
    BA: .302
    SLG: .417
    OB: .369
    Gms: 137
    AB: 441
    Run: 65
    Hits: 133
    TB: 184
    2b: 18
    3b: 3
    Hr: 9
    RBI: 48
    BB: 89
    SO: 44
    SB: 35
    CS: 12
    Errs: 6
    
    
    -Mike
    
94.10SOJU::FRANCUSMets in '90Thu Dec 28 1989 13:335
    thanks all. Yeah I Kelly would be a nice addition, but even up for
    Darling sounds a lot more reasonable than adding Magadan in.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
94.11~/~AUSTIN::MACNEALBig MacThu Dec 28 1989 15:271
    Isn't Kelly the "New and Improved Next Mickey Mantle"?
94.12No WayRUTLND::KUPTONTrade Somebody For A Pitcher..Please!!Thu Dec 28 1989 16:009
    Kelly for Darling would be foolish. Like Burks for Darling or fill in
    your favorite young OF for Darling.
    
    Add Mike Marshall and you still need to add something......
    
    After the late season performance by Roberto, the Yanks wouldn't let
    him go for less than Cone. (IMO, of course)
    
    Ken
94.13SHANE::PACIELLOThu Dec 28 1989 16:027
    Kelly is an all-around player, but nothing close to Mantle. Still he's
    young and just starting to reach his potential...Darling is a vet
    and established...I'm sure there'd be other players involved in this
    deal...Magaden just seemed like someone the Yankess would look for...
    Perhaps Teufel?
    
    -mike
94.14and wasn't Magadan supposed to be the next Boggs?STAR::YANKOWSKASFFL A rules!Thu Dec 28 1989 16:117
    re .11:
    
    The "next Mickey Mantle" was Jay Buhner, who went to Seattle in the Ken
    Phelps trade.
    
    
    py
94.15Perhaps Carter for CFPTOVAX::SCHRAMMFri Dec 29 1989 10:186
    
    
    maybe the Mets can pick up Gary Carter for centerfield. I figure the
    guy would like to play where he threw the ball all the time  .....
    
    :,)    .........  
94.16SOJU::FRANCUSMets in '90Fri Dec 29 1989 11:277
    re: -1
    
    Unfortunately over the last 2 years that statement was right too many
    times :-(
    
    The Crazy Met
    
94.17even up hasn't a shotHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERI flushed MrT!Fri Dec 29 1989 15:1616
>    Why not Darling for Kelly even up????

Wouldn't touch it.  Not that I don't want Darling on my staff.
I do.  But I won't give up Kelly right now.  Kelly is a young
emerging ballplayer who fills a huge gap - there is no one
I want playing CF on the Yankee roster right now other
than Roberto.  Darling has had his career abruptly level
off, and whether he can improve from here is questionable.

If the Mets feel they need a CF, I'd move McReynolds there.
Then the Yanks can trade Hall+ for Darling and the Mets
can put Hall in left where he doesn't do too much damage.
Mets fans probably won't like that one (depending on the
plus) but I am very disinterested in trading away Kelly.

Dan
94.18I agree with DanSHANE::PACIELLOFri Dec 29 1989 15:568
Wholeheartedly...I just can't see the Yanks giving up Kelly for Darling...As
good as Darling is, he's heading over the other side of the hill...Kelly is
just working his way up it...

This deal is a no go....


-Mike
94.19conference movedACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '90Fri Jan 12 1990 13:234
    NYMETS conference has moved to acesmk::nymets
    
    The Crazy Met
    
94.20Darryl, this BUD's for you.....POCUS::SALTALAMACCHSat Feb 03 1990 18:288
    Darryl Strawberry has checked into the Smithers Institute for
    alcoholism.  
    
    I hate the Mets!
    
    Redmen (Yankee) Phil
                 
    
94.21Just waiting for the moment..CORREO::REYES_JThu Aug 02 1990 00:088
    I think my man Darryl has well gotten the monkey of his back. Don't
    you? 
    
    P.S. What a race between Mets and Pirates HUH!!
    
    LETS GO METS!!!			
    				JR
    
94.22The Mets fans are right hereAUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Thu Aug 02 1990 13:2324
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    Where are all the Mets fans..
    
    JR..
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                           -< Pulling for the Mets. >-
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    The Mets are still in it.. I know it's tence but they are still in it..
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CSC32::GL_JOHNSON "Mo' Better Blues"                  6 lines   1-AUG-1990 21:26
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    Yo dude,
    
    	Like, check out ACESMK::NYMETS.  
    
              					 glen j.
    
94.23please use REPLY instead of WRITE to address a topciAUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Thu Aug 02 1990 15:3411
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    Hey Note 317>>>
    
    Up here in First place where we belong!!! Awesome comeback last night!
    
    
    
94.24COBRA::DINSMOREwhats your claim to fame.?Thu Aug 02 1990 15:364
    WHATS A TOPCI  MAC?
    
    :))  NOTICE  THE SMILIES
    
94.25Chill out..Bro..PULPO::REYES_JThu Aug 02 1990 21:143
    Thanks for the info..
    
    			J.R.
94.26SHALOT::HUNTWyld Stallyns RulesFri Aug 03 1990 13:206
94.27AUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Wed Oct 03 1990 12:467
    Darryl Strawberry has said that he won't name names, but alot of guys
    on this year's Mets team need to grow up.  He sees no reason why the
    Mets didn't win the division this year.  He said that as far as next
    year goes, money isn't that big of a motivation.  He said that no
    matter how much NY offers him, unless they get a good leadoff hitter
    (seems he would like to team up with Vince Coleman), he's history. 
    Word is that he'll only play in Dodger or Met blue.
94.28FRSBEE::BROOKSTwo snaps, a twist, and a kiss!Wed Oct 03 1990 14:3910
    People may not like the source, but the Strawman is right. The Mets had
    two decent leadoff hitters, couldn't make up their mind, so they traded
    both of them ... real smart. You better believe that Vince Coleman will
    insure a few more fastballs for Darryl and Co. 
    
    As for moving, it might be the right move. I'm really worrried that his
    good friend Eric Davis didn't, and between that green cement in
    Riverfront, and Marge Schott (ugh), he'll never really reach his max.
    
    And for some reason, I think that the Mets management is in a slump.
94.29Pity Party. Ready? 1...2...3 - Awwwwwwwwwwwwww.SHALOT::MEDVIDThu Oct 04 1990 07:0511
    Before um...what's his name...oh yeah, it says so on the side of his
    head...before Strawberry claims those around him should grow up, he
    ought to look in the mirror, read the papers and watch the sports news
    and notice what a big baby he is himself.
    
    Surprises me that he won't name names.  In the past, he's thrown
    punches at his teammates and then huffed off in a tantrum.
    
    Poor, poor Darryl.  LA deserves him.
    
    	--dan'l
94.30Bonds will be MVP; Drabek will win Cy Young.CSC32::GL_JOHNSONHomie D. Clown!Thu Oct 04 1990 17:4119
    
    	Congrats to the Bucs on their first division title since the 'We
    Are Family' days of '79.  Most everyone expected them to finish behind
    the METS, but they came through.  Since they beat us, I'll be pulling
    for them to beat the DReds.  
    
    	In re to Straw, if I were him, I'd let my bat do the talking. 
    He is the one batter that most opposing managers and pitchers do NOT
    want to beat them and you would probably love to have him in the lineup
    with Bonds and Bonilla dan'l.  Without him, what will the NY press
    do to generate controversy?  NY's choice is to either sign him and
    keep those 30+ hr's and 100+ ribbys, or let him go and also lose 
    McReynolds, since he's also a free agent.  Granted he's had problems
    in the past, but he's admitted to having a problem with alcohol and 
    sought treatment.  That is conveinently forgotten when it comes to
    Straw.  I'd like him to stay in NY, controversy and all.  The METS
    wouldn't be nowhere near the same team without him.
    
    						 glen j.
94.31No room for the unwantedSHALOT::MEDVIDFri Oct 05 1990 07:375
    I don't think the Pirate lockerroom is big enough for both Bonds' and
    Strawberry's egoes.  We've got the outfield we neeed to do the job.  No
    room for Straw's attitude.
    
    	--dan'l
94.32CSC32::J_HERNANDEZDahlingItsBettaDownWhereItsWettaFri Oct 05 1990 11:301
    Straw will be wearing Dodger blue nexted year.
94.33Help!!!CORREO::REYES_JWed Dec 05 1990 23:438
    Hi there,
    
    		I had nymets conference but now it has moved. I tried to
    mod entry but got a error "acp file failed". Can anyone help me get
    back the nymets note.
    			Thanks in advance
    
    					July
94.34GOLF::KINGRMy mind is a terrible thing to use...Thu Dec 06 1990 01:454
      Try ACESMK::METS
    
    
    REK