Conference 7.286::sports_90

    Nov. 27th - The big rematch on TNT!

    The Blazers are facing a big challenge tonight.  The Detroit Pistons
    are in town.  This is the Blazers first chance for some much needed
    revenge.
    
    Jerome Kersey and Cliff Robinson are questionable for tonight's
    game.  After seeing the fall Jerome took in the Laker game Tues.,
    I suprised he's even ALIVE!  I think that they will both see action
    tonight.
    
    I believe this will be a fairly low scoring game, around 115-112.
    Portland will win and go 4-0.
    
    Glen.

    replying to .1
    
    You seem to forget that Phoenix hasn't beaten Portland in Portland
    for something like 20 straight games.  Portland is VERY tough at
    home!  Jerome Kersey will have the game of his life with Chambers
    TRYING to keep up with him!
    
    Glen.

    Re: Kersey
    
    So that's why he only had 4 pts against LA!  He's on my FBA team.
    
    Mike

    Glen, you just mentioned revenge with Detroit.  Phoenix will execute
    theirs on the Blazers. 
    
    BTW - Phoenix plays 3 in Portland this year.  Blazers come to Phoenix
    twice.
    
    Selected Phoenix Suns' basketball game(s):
    NOV-27  at Portland            TNT  KUTP
    JAN-22  at Portland            KUTP
    FEB-22  at Portland
    MAR-13     Portland            KUTP
    APR-21     Portland            NBC

    hey Glen, here's one for ya:
    
    What do the LA Lakers, Denver Nuggets, New Jersey Nets, and Sacramento
    Kings all have in common?
    
    They're all WINLESS!  HA HA HA HA HA

    Yes that is why he only had 4.  He played only 10 min.
    What do you mean, he's on your FBA team?
    
    Glen.

    FBA = Fantasy Basketball Association (i.e., rotisserie league)

    re: .6
    
    That's a good one.  Here's another one:  What do the Clippers and
    the Pistons have in common?  They have both lost only 1 game!

    Glen, are you in Portland? Or from there?

    Yes I work in the Portland office in Customer Service.
    
    Glen.

    Oen last comment before the game tonight.  The Pistons haven't beat
    the Blazers in Portland during the regular season in 20 tries!!!
    
    After tonight it will be 21!
    
    Glen.

    Well, Well, Well, it seems that there is only 1 count 'em 1
    team in the whole NBA that is undefeated!  I wonder who it could
    be?  Maybeeeeeeee  PORTLAND!
    
    The Blazers had two impressive wins this weekend, a 113-101 (it
    wasn't even that close!) win over the Pistons and a real boot-stomp
    138-107 win over the Clippers.  Kevin Duckworth dominated both games.
    He is really looking a lot better this year.
    
    5-0 and still counting!
    
    Glen.

    Daly commented on how much Ainge helps this team after the Piston game.
    
    Mike

    Well, can the Blazers score 200 tonight?  The Denver Nuggets are
    in town.  I will let you all know the results.
    
    Glen.
    

    Re: -1
    
    Nope.  They don't have the firepower that Phoenix has ;-)
    
    Mike

    re: -1
    
    What do you mean they don't have the firepower?  Clyde, Terry Porter,
    Jerome Kersey, and Duckworth could all score 30 or more tonight!
    
    Also, the Portland Defense will be at it's usuall stingy self!
    
    Glen.

Re: -1

Like the firepower and defense displayed in Game 3 in last year's playoffs 
where Phoenix BOMBED the Blazers by 40 points.

Mike

    Mike,
         That was one of those freaks of nature.  By the way, who one
    that series anyway? ;-)
    
    Glen.

    Pardon my english on that last note.  It should read "won" instead
    of "one".  I don't know what I was thinking. 
    Glen.

>         That was one of those freaks of nature.  By the way, who one
>    that series anyway? ;-)
    
    The team with the least injuries ;-)
    
    Mike

                      > the team with the least injuries;-
    Tell your problems to the Spurs (last year in the playoffs) or the
    Lakers when Magic played center. Good teams find a way to win. Hornceck(sp)
    showed he could really play that series and if you look at his stats
    he compensated for KJ in his point guard contribution.

    Re: -1
    
    I don't have any problems.  Look up the meaning of ;-)

    You say that Phoenix had injuries?  They didn't know what injuries
    were!  In the San Antonio series, Portland lost Duckworth with a
    broken hand, Buck Williams with a broken eye socket, and Wayne Cooper
    with back spasms.  That's both centers and our best rebounder. 
    We still beat Mr. Robinson and his Spurs!
    
    Glen.

    The Blazers failed to break the Suns mark of 173, but they still put a
    lot of points on the board.  Phoenix is still right on their tails, and
    the LA is somewhere down the ladder.  Oh pardon me, that's the
    Clippers!  The Lakers are nowhere in sight! ;-)
    
    Mike

    Portland is now 6-0!
    
    Portland outscored the Denver Nuggets last night 155-129.  That
    was Denver's lowest output of the season.  The Portland defense
    did it again.  Cliff Robinson had 5 blocked shots.
    
    Portland had 8 people in double figures: 
    Drexler   39 pts. 12 assits 11 rebs.
    Ainge     20 pts.
    Williams  20 pts.
    Porter    19 pts. 14 assists 5 steals
    Robinson  15 pts. 5 blocks
    Duckworth 13 pts.
    Kersey    12 pts.
    Young     10 pts.
    
    Portland also set a team record for assists with 49.
    
    Glen.
    
    

    Ainge will prove to be a valuable asset to Portland, and probably the
    reason why they'll win all the marbles this season.  I've always liked
    Danny, the way he hustled and always gave it his all.....
    
    Hawk

    Trailblazers	155
    Player		Min    FG-A    FT-A   R  A  P  T
    J. Kersey		 27	5-8	2-4   4  6  5 12
    C. Williams		 33	7-8	6-7  12  2  2 20
    K. Duckworth	 21	6-16    1-2   6  2  2 13
    C. Drexler		 35    18-22	3-4  11 12  4 39
    T. Porter		 35	7-12    4-5   4 13  1 19
    D. Ainge		 27	7-16	5-5   3  5  2 20
    C. Robinson		 25	7-10	1-1   6  5  5 15
    D. Young		 20	3-6	2-2   2  3  1 10
    M. Bryant		 12	3-5	1-1   4  1  0  7
    A. Abdelnaby	  3	0-2	0-0   1  0  0  0
    D. Petrovic		  2     0-0     0-0   1  0  0  0
    Totals		240    53-105  25-31 54 49 22 155
    
    3-point goals -  Young 2-4, Porter 1-2, Ainge 1-4
    Team Rebounds -  8
    Blocked Shots -  8 (Robinson 5, Kersey 2, Young)
    Turnovers     - 22 (Porter 5, Drexler 4, Williams 4, Kersey 2, Ainge 2,
                       Young 2, Duckworth, Bryant, Abdelnaby)
    Steals	  - 11 (Porter 5, Young 3, Williams 2, Robinson)
    
    Nuggets		129
    Player		Min    FG-A    FT-A   R  A  P  T
    O. Woolridge	 33    10-17   10-12  8  1  1 30
    W. Davis		 32    10-17	0-0   2  4  3 21
    B. Rasmussen	 32	4-9	0-0   9  2  6  8
    C. Jackson		 27	9-16	2-2   1  8  1 20
    T. Lichti		 34	7-14	7-8   2  5  0 22
    C. Gaines		 21	4-8	2-2   1 12  2 10
    T. Dunn		 13	2-6	0-0   1  1  1  4
    D. Cook		 16	2-7	0-1   5  1  1  4
    J. Wolf		 16	2-4	0-0   4  0  4  4
    A. Johnson		  5	1-2	0-0   0  1  0  2
    M. Liberty		 11	2-4	0-0   2  0  6  4
    Totals		240    53-104  21-25 35 35 25 129
    
    3-point goals -  Davis 1-1, Lichti 1-2, Gaines 0-1
    Team Rebounds -  6
    Blocked Shots -  1 (Lichti)
    Turnovers     - 18 (Woolridge 4, Lichti 3, Rasmussen 2, Jackson 2,
                       Gaines 2, Davis, Dunn, Wolf, Johnson, Liberty)
    Steals	  - 13 (Rasmussen 3, Lichti 3, Woolridge 2, Dunn 2, Davis,
                       Jackson, Cook)
    
    Portland Trailblazers	43	38	35	39 - 155
    Denver Nuggets		26	33	36	34 - 129
    
    Att:12,884

And also, Hawk, before the Little Princess game along, Danny gave
the best scalp massages in the NBA....


'aw

    'Saw, clearly you have Danny mistaken for someone else.  I mean, how
    could he give even give a scalp massage, with all those fingers
    missing?
    
    Hawk

Sorry, Hawk, I'm just reminiscing back to the early or mid 80s.

Danny used to be the King of Slap_stick back then, before the Little
Princess made the term Scalp Massage come into vogue ......

HTH,
'Saw

    The Blazers have a tough game coming up tonight.  The Nicks are
    in town.  Duckworth will have to continue his dominating play inside
    to contain Ewing.  I think that the Blazers will win tonight, but
    it will be tough game because they just came off the Denver game.
    This will be complete opposite style of game and the Blazers will
    have to switch gears in order to win.
    
    My prediction:
    Portland      117
    New York      92
    
    Glen.

    The Blazers have an excellent chance of going 13-0 for November, and
    make life tough on Phoenix in the process.  The NBA schedule makers were 
    smiling on them this summer!
    
    They only had 3 road games scheduled this month, 2 have already been
    played.  The third is in Denver!  The Knicks (tonight) and Pistons have
    been the only tough home foes thus far.  
    
    The only ones that have a chance at handing them a loss are: Chicago
    (18th), Spurs (25th), and Phoenix (27th).  They should handle Golden 
    St. (23rd), Minnesota (29th).
    
    Mike

    Portland is now 7-0!  They beat the Nicks 141-125 last night. 8
    people in double figures.  The Blazers have scored 138,155,and 141
    in there last three games.  That's about 144 or so for an average
    this week, and still have Denver again on Saturday!
    
    Go Blazers!!!
    
    Glen.

    Hello all-
    
    Two more impressive wins for the Blazers over the weekend.  Sat.
    they beat the Nuggets 143-112 in Denver.  Sunday they beat the
    Bulls 125-112 in Portland.  Clyde Drexler has averaged 32 points
    a game in the last 4 or 5 games!  Portland has been shooting the
    ball very well also.  They have been consistantly shooting between
    62-67%.
    
    Next game Friday against the Golden State Warriors.
    
    Glen.
    

    They're red-hot, they're on fire, but it's a long season....i wish they
    could be seen more often in the east.  
    
    I guess Petrovic is upset about playing time...with Agine and Young
    coming off the bench, he can forget it....that kid is too hyper to ride
    the bench...
    
    Hey Mike, the Suns should have kept Gilliam - they'll regret that.
    
    ra

    Petrovic is complaining a bit about playing time, but he isn't going
    to be getting much playing time as long as the Blazers are doing
    so well.  Coach Adleman is going to leave things just the way they
    are as long as we're winning.
    
    By the way, the Blazers head office gave Petrovic a fine for
    complaining!  They don't want him rocking the boat I guess!
    
    Glen.

    Looks like they'll go 13-0 for November.  The Suns should gain some
    ground on them in December and January.  Cotton's teams typically start
    slow anyway.  This year's Suns are only 1 game better (5-3) than at
    this time last year (4-4).
    
    Re: Gilliam
    
    He was a wuss in Phoenix.  If he stayed in Phoenix, the Suns wouldn't
    have beaten LA or have gone to the conf. finals last year.  You need
    more than one basketball on the floor with Chambers, KJ, EJ, Gilliam, 
    and Hornacek on the floor.  Somebody has to rebound!
    
    Mike

    Drazen Petrovic made a statement to the press yesterday.  He said
    that he is sorry that he said he would go back home if he wasn't
    traded by Nov. 30th.  I guess Coach Adleman had a talk with him
    and told him that just because he's not getting a lot of minutes
    now, doesn't mean it'll be like that all year.  Drazen said that
    as long as he can contribute to the team in any way, he'll be happy.
    The Blazers then turned around and waived the fine they had given
    him.  One big happy family!!!
    
    Glen.
    
    P.S.   Clyde Drexler N.B.A. player of the week!!!

    Well, well, well.  The Blazers are now 11-0!  Their latest victims
    were the Golden State Warriors and the San Antonio Spurs.  As usual,
    these games were not even close.  In the Spurs game, the Blazers
    broke two team records, 49 points in the first period ( no they
    weren't playing Denver ) and 10 assists by Terry Porter in the first
    period also.  They had a 31 point lead after the 1st period, 49-18.
    The Blazers scoring really slowed down after that, though.  They
    ended up winning by 14, 117-103.
    
    Next game- Tuesday, against the Suns!
    
    Glen.

    The Suns game Tuesday will be televised here.  I can't wait to see this
    Blazer team!
    
    Mike

    Just out of Curiousity, what is the record for Opening Victories
    11 in a row seems pretty high, just curious of what the record is
    and who has it (One for a Die Hard B-Ball Fan).
    								Mike

    The record for opening victories in a row 1s 15 by Washington, 1948. 
    The Celtics have the next best at 14 in 1957.
    
    The Lakers hold the record for consecutive wins with 33, I believe, set
    in '74(?).  I remember my beloved Knicks team, the one with Frazier,
    Reed, DeBussere, etc., set the consecutive win record a year earlier
    with 18......
    
    HTH.
    
    Hawk

    Man oh Man do the Trailblazers look good.  I guess losing to the
    Pistons in the Finals has changed the team totally.  Looking forward to
    the TNT game tuesday!!
    
    Greg 

    No thanks!!!!!
    
    Sox fan....
    
    REK

    RE: -2
    
    The Blazers won the Championship in '77, not '78.
    
    Good luck to the Blazers tonight against Phoenix!
    
    Glen.

    Re: -1
    
    The Blazers are lucky enough, they don't need more ;-)
    
    Mike

    re: -1
    
    I think what you meant to say was that the Blazers are sooooo good
    that they don't need any luck. ;-)
    
    Glen.

    re: .43
    
    The Lakers set the record during the 1971-2 season. The Knicks won
    their 18 in a row during 1969-70.

    re- .47
    
    What I was referring to was in 1978, Portland won 10-11 in a row to
    start the season and finished below .500. In other words, don't count
    your chickens, it's a long season, etc.
    
    Chris

    Re: -1
    
    Was that because Walton was injured?  That could happen again if this
    team received a major injury.
    
    Mike

    re: 1978
    
    	The Blazers, apparently ready to defend their crown, were 50-10
    before they lost Walton to the ever-recurring foot injury and their
    off guard, Dave Twarzdik, also got injured.  They only won 9 games 
    the rest of the regular season and lost in the first round of the 
    playoffs.
    
        Portland's record is impressive thus far, but most of their games
    have been at home.  Outside of LA, they haven't played anybody of 
    substance on the road.  We'll see how they do once they have to hit
    the road. 
    		
    	Since Jimmy Clang(tm)as been perfecting those low-post moves,
    the LAKERS should be, ah hem, climaxing toward the top anytime now. ;-)
    
    
      						 glen j.
                                                                           

>    	Since Jimmy Clang(tm)as been perfecting those low-post moves,
>    the LAKERS should be, ah hem, climaxing toward the top anytime now. ;-)
    
    Given the play of both thus far, I'd say they're both impotent! ;-)

    The Lakers will win the PAcific Division title.

    ......after they start a successful rebulding program, much like the
    Celtics have.
    

    re: -2
    
    DREAM ON LITTLE BROOM-STICK COWGIRL!!
    
    

    The Blazers play the Timberwolves tonight in Portland.  Hopefully
    they'll run their NBA-leading record to a whoping 12-1.  Then 13-1
    on Saturday with a game against Seattle in Seattle.  Then 14-1 on
    Sunday with a game with the Jazz in Portland!
    
    Goooooooo Blazers!!!!!
    Glen.

    Wait until they start playing some good teams on the road.  The NBA's
    best will then be in Boston where it belongs!
    
    Mike

    As Mick said in his single days... "Don't forget the Motor City..."
    

    Never forget the 2x W.C.'s....

    Walt, the Celts and Pistons are tied for 2nd with 11-2 records. 
    Portland is 12-1
    
    Mike

    Portland beat the Timberwolves last night 107-92.  Drexler had 21
    and Porter had 20.  Next game, Sat. against Seattle.  Should be
    win #13!
    
    Portland was 12-1 in November!  It is true that they had alot of
    home games, but alot of those were against very good teams.  They
    will be on the road quite a bit in December, so we'll see how they
    are doing a month from now.  My prediction is that they will be
    still doing great!
    
    Glen.

    Apparently the Lakers are beginning to figure it out.  They've
    moved Perkins to starting forward and have A C Green coming off
    the bench ...... don't count that champeenship yet you Blazer
    fans.

    ditto with Phoenix.  Cotton finely has figured out some rotations that
    are getting the job done!
    
    Mike

Re. -1:

Yeah, Mike, I particularly like whatever rotation he used Saturday
night. :)

Laker_Ken

From: clarinews@clarinet.com (DENNIS ANSTINE, UPI Sports Writer)
Newsgroups: clari.sports.basketball
Subject: Blazers 130, Sonics 124 (3 OT)
Date: 2 Dec 90 06:35:25 GMT

	SEATTLE (UPI) -- Terry Porter's 38 points included the game-winning
basket Saturday night as the Portland Trail Blazers claimed a wild, 130-
124 triple-overtime victory over the Seattle SuperSonics.
	Porter tied the game at 122-122 with a 15-foot jumper and then put
Portland ahead 124-122 with 1:30 left in the game with another long jump
shot.
	Four free throws by Clyde Drexler and two by Jerome Kersey gave
Portland a 130-124 lead with 11.9 seconds left and Seattle finally
succumbed.
	Kersey added 24 points and 10 rebounds for the Blazers, now 12-2.
	The Sonics, 4-8, were led by Xavier McDaniel's 41 points on 18-of-36
field goal shooting. Threatt scored 19.
	The Sonics had 114-108 lead halfway through the second 5-minute
overtime period, but the Blazers came back on Kersey's four points and a
Buck Wiliams tip. 
	Seattle's Gary Payton made a driving layin for a 118-114 lead with 10
seconds to go before Danny Ainge cut it two points on two free throws
with 7.3 seconds to go.
	Ainge then stole McDaniel's inbound pass and hit Porter for a layin
with 3.6 seconds to go. Seattle's Michael Cage missed a shot at the
buzzer.
	Both the fourth quarter and first overtime period ended with emotions
running high between the two Northwest rivals.
	McDaniel's 20-foot baseline jumper had put the Sonics ahead 105-103
with 55 seconds left in the first overtime. The Sonics were in good
shape when Threatt made it 106-103 with two seconds to go after Kersey
was called for a technical following a shoving match with McDaniel.
	Porter caught the inbounds pass, had a shot from 3-point range
blocked back into his hands, shot again and made it. Referee Ron
Garretson said he shot it before the buzzer to the shock of most
watching.
	The Blazers, 12-2, had a chance to win in overtime when Derrick McKey
fouled Kersey at the buzzer and Seattle leading 95-94. Kersey's first
free throw was off the iron, but he made his second to extend the game.
	Seattle had gone ahead on Threatt's 5-foot jumper with 4.9 seconds
left in the game.
	The Sonics held a 14-point advantage going into the fourth quarter,
but the Trail Blazers rallied to grab an 89-88 lead with 1:40 left in
the game on Clyde Drexler's fast-break layin. Seattle's Michael Cage
made a 3-point play, but Porter pumped in a 3-point jumper and then
stole the ball from Gary Payton for a layin and a 94-91 Portland
advantage with 45.5 left in the game.
	But the Sonics came back on McDaniel's driving layin with 33.5 to go
and Threatt's short jumper after Drexler missed a long shot with 11
seconds remaining.
	The Sonics dominated the first half and led 53-39 lead at the break.
They led 77-63 going into the fourth quarter.

    Well, you Laker and Sun fans can keep on trying different rotations
    or whatever you think will help you win, but the fact is Portland
    is winning now and they don't have to change a thing!
    
    Portland won two more games last weekend.  Saturday they beat a
    determined Sonics team 130-124 in triple o.t.
    Sunday they beat the Jazz 101-97.  Now they go on the road for four
    games.  Tues. at Miami, Wed. at Orlando, Fri. at Indiana, and Sat.
    at Chicago.
    
    Glen.
    

    Re: -1
    
    looks like a 3-1 road trip.

    What do you mean 3-1?  How about 4-0.  Chicago has been winning
    a lot of games and it's about time for a loss.  Portland is just
    the team to do it too!  The Blazers can't afford to look past Miami,
    Orlando, or Indiana in the mean time, though.
    
    Glen.

    Chicago is tough at home!

    Glenn,
    
    Did they show the Seattle-Portland game on TV down there?  It was
    quite a game.  The Sonics won, but the refs blew two calls to hand
    it to the Blazers.  See my note 89.161 in the Sonics note for a
    recap.
    
    Pete

    re: -2
    Yes but the Blazers are undefeated on the road so far this year!
    Not only that, but the Blazers have won 9 in a row on the road going
    back to last year (regular season).
    
    re: -1
    Yes, the game was on our CBS station down here.  It was a great
    game!  I'll admit that the 3 pointer at the end of the first o.t.
    looked late to me, but I thought Porter was fouled on the play.
    I thought it was great that we came back from 16 down in the 4th!
    I just wish we would have done that against Phoenix too!  And by
    the way, you said the Blazers have lost 2 games, but they have lost
    only 1!  They are now 14-1.
    
    Glen.

    re .54
    
    Brutal Mike ..... utterly brutal ! :-)

    >I just wish we would have done that against Phoenix too!  And by
    >the way, you said the Blazers have lost 2 games, but they have lost
    >only 1!  They are now 14-1.
    
    I did?? Where??  Anyway, for the recap of the game, I meant note
    89.261, not .161.  
    
    The Blazers are a wonderfully balanced team this year.  And, they can
    serve as a model for the Sonics.  A few years ago, the Blazers had
    alot of team dissention and lack of chemistry.  I'm not sure what
    caused the players to put their egos aside and play as they were 
    capable of (Buck W. helped), but the Sonics could learn from them.
    They have too much talent to be 4-9 (1-9 since they started 3-0).
    
    Pete

    re: -1
    I agree with you that the Sonics have much more talent than their
    record shows.  What the Blazers did to help morale was to trade
    Kiki Vandewhatever (He and Kersey didn't get along too well) and
    dump Mike Schuler.  The players (especially Clyde) didn't like Schuler
    very much, so that helped too.  They then replaced him with Rick
    Adelman, whom the players knew very well and liked. (Adelman had
    been an assistant coach with the Blazers since the championship
    season of '77).
    
    I also think that Buck Williams has helped this team more than any
    thing else, though!  He has such a great attitude and gives it his
    all every game!
    
    Glen.
    
    P.S. The Blazers play in Miami tonight.  They should be 15-1 after
    tonight!

    WHEW! That was close!  
    
    Portland won last night in Miami 98-95.  Kersey did not score!
    
    15-1 that's great, Orlando tonight.
    
    Glen.

    ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!
    
    The Blazers beat the Magic 119-110.  Clyde had 27 points and 12
    rebs. to led the Blazers.  Six Blazers were in double figures.
    
    This was a good win because Detroit and Phoenix both lost last night
    Yea!
    
    Next game: Friday in Indiana.  I hope the team can stay fresh for
    the game on Sat. with the Bulls.  It will be their 6th game in 7
    days!
    
    Glen.

    ...but Boston won AGAIN!

    Portland has a chance at beating the Bulls on saturday, the bulls beat
    phoenix 2 nights ago and now have NY Knicks on friday and then
    portland.  They have a 6 games win streak right now and Im hoping they
    can go 8.....Bulls 117 Portland 104
    							Mike Air Brooks

    Can you picture this team if they had drafted Jordan instead of Bowie?
    
    Mike

    re: -2
    Portland has a 5 game win streak of their own, not to mention that
    they are 16-1!  They are also undefeated on the road this year (6-0).
    Portland traditionally plays Chicago tough and I certainly don't
    think it will be any different this time.  Portland has looked tired
    the last three games after going three overtimes with Seattle. 
    They haven't had any time to rest yet.  They have tonight off then
    play in Indianapolis on Friday, then Chicago on Sat.  Hopefully,
    the team will win easily on Friday so the starters can have a rest.
    The Bulls game on Sat. will be shown in Portland.  I can't wait
    for this one!  Clyde will show Jordan some REAL air!
    
    Glen.

    >...but Boston won AGAIN!
    
    Who cares about Boston?  Yeah, they'll make the playoffs, but they're
    not even close to finals material.
    
    Dan

>             -< I see Mike's drifting away from Phoenix recently >-
    
    You see what you want to see, despite reality.

    C'mon Mike admit it.  You've been talking up the Celtics a lot in here
    in recent weeks, and nary a peep on the SUns, a vast change from the
    last few years.
    
    Dan

    Dont get me wrong I like nothing better than to see a team out in
    the west ahead of the lakers, with the lakers on a 7 game win streak
    of there own Id hate to see them catch Portland,....But being a bulls
    fan I have to cheer for the men in red/black this saturday....MJ been
    getting alot of rest in the middle of the game and lately doesnt even
    have to play at the end....They had a list of top 10 players minute
    wise the other day and MJ wasnt on it...Thats a first.  This may even
    be a preview of the finals
    
    	Chicago Bulls VS Portlans Trailblazers	Bulls take it in 6 (Id love
    	it)
    						Michael AIR Brooks

    You know, you might have something there.  The Bulls and the Blazers
    were picked by many Sports magazines, including Sports Illustrated
    to be in the finals this season!  I do think, however, that they
    all picked Portland to win it all.  I think Portland has the best
    starting five in the whole N.B.A. and a damn good bench to go with
    it.  I'll bet a lot of teams would love to have a bench so deep
    that a guy like Drazen Petrovic is the 12th man!
    
    Glen.

>    C'mon Mike admit it.  You've been talking up the Celtics a lot in here
>    in recent weeks, and nary a peep on the SUns, a vast change from the
>    last few years.

    For one thing, the Celtics have given us something to talk about this
    year after a 2 year layoff.  If you could read 109.* or 9.* in CELTICS,
    you'll see that I've entered quite a bit on the Suns in this young 15
    game season thus far.  And 3 years ago, I was talking Celtics because 
    the '87 Drug Scandal Suns simply sucked!  

    Where were you when LA got romped in May and were sucking wind for most
    of November?  You need to worry about YOUR OWN allegiances.  There are
    no vast changes in this camp.  I give credit where its due, and the
    Suns don't deserve any right now.

    Mike

    -2, well at this point I would be happy to see the bulls make it past
    Detroit and get into the Finals with Portland....Its very discouraging
    to have the pistions knock you out twice....But If the Bulls make it
    that far they wont be stopped, Michael will score 40+ a game and thats
    just becase hell be hitting in the high 70% from the floor....If Pippen
    can come out of his coma and get back to where he was 2 years ago the
    Bulls will be Champions...
    	Still hope portland makes it there instead of the lakers.
    
    								Mike

    >Where were you when LA got romped in May and were sucking wind for most
    >of November?  You need to worry about YOUR OWN allegiances.  
    
    I never left the Laker's side, nor gave anyone reason to think I did. 
    If you know me, you know that.    
    
    Dan_the_consistent

>    I never left the Laker's side, nor gave anyone reason to think I did. 
>    If you know me, you know that.    
    
    You may not have left their side, but you were absent from all the
    ribbing and baiting in here!  To coin a phrase, "...and nary a peep on
    the Lakers, a vast change from the last few years."
    
    Mike

    Well the Trailblazers are still red hot, they beat my trust bulls on
    saturday, a test in which the bulls flunked.....The only good thing
    that may of come from this (for the bulls) is a few lessons.  Hopefully
    they learned something from this loss....There still only 1 1/2 behind
    Detroit and have something like 10 home games left in
    december...Looking forward to meeting up  with you blazers in the end..
    
    							Michael Air Brooks
    

    The Blazers are HOT!  They beat the Bulls for the second time this
    year 109-101.  Clyde had 29 points and Terry Porter had about 26
    or so.  Jordan was his usual awesome self, but the rest of the Bulls
    did practically nothing.  Portland now has tied the second best
    record with one loss in NBA history!  The record is 23-1 held by
    Washington in the '40's or '50's.  Portland has a great chance of
    beating that record.  I tell you, I am really impressed with this
    team!  I really believe that they can beat anyone anywhere and I
    think the team knows it too.  They went 4-0 on this road trip. 
    I know they didn't play a lot of tough teams, but any team is tough
    when your playing 4 games in five nights on the road.
    
    Next game: Tues. at home vs. Indiana
    
    Glen.

    The Blazers tore yet another team apart last night.  The Indiana
    Pacers got creamed by Portland 122-96.  Kevin Duckworth led the
    Blazers with 21 points and Clyde had 20 with 9 rebs.  Last nights
    game was a perfect example of the versatility of this team.  This
    team is great because Clyde doesn't need to be the leading scorer
    every night for the team to win.  In fact, almost every night someone
    else leads the team in scoring.  The the mark of a truly great team!
    
    Next game: Thurs. @ Sacramento
    
    Glen
    

    What happened to all you non-Blazer fans who kept saying "wait untill
    December, then we'll see how the Blazers are doing"?  Well, it's
    half way through December and the Blazers are hotter than ever!
    I suppose you are all going to start saying " wait untill January,
    blah blah blah...".  When are you going to wake up and see that
    the Blazers are the BEST team in the NBA!
    
    Glen.
    

    Ok then, wait until the end of December, then we'll see how the Blazers
    are doing.......
    
    HTH.  :-)
    
    Hawk
    

    I think the Lakers will take apart the Blazers when next they play. 
    The Lakers team has made great strides since game 2 of the season when
    Portland took them in overtime, and I'll bet the Blazers have been
    looking over their shoulders as the Lakers started reeling off
    victories.
    
    Dan

    re: -2
    The Blazers will NOT lose to the Lakers next time they play.  It
    will be in Portland and the Lakers don't stand a chance!  They play
    in early January, and the Blazers should be about 28-1 or so ;^).
    
    re: -1
    
    I think the Blazers aren't looking over their shoulders at all.
    As they keep saying, "We're just playing one game at a time, and
    we expect to win every time we play."  They know they can beat anyone
    at anytime anywhere!  If I were on any other team in the NBA, I
    would be scared to death to play the Blazers!
    
    Glen.

The Trailblazers are definitely the best team in basketball.  They are 
just like a steamroller right now and don't fear anyone.  Rightfully so.

Can they keep it up to the championship is the $64 question.  Upsets in the
playoffs do happen because teams assume that pummeling another team in the
regular season means something in May.  Means diddly other than home court
advantage.

Teams like the "declining" Lakers are great choices to upset the "clearly"
superior Blazers...

			Bob Cohen

    I guess Phoenix will just have to play them again soon since nobody
    else can beat them.  ;-)
    
    Let them peak now, they will get paybacks in May.  Probably go back to
    choking in the opening round like they do for most of the '80s.
    
    Mike

The Frailblazers are awesome right now, and winning breeds a winning
attitude, which breeds more winning. If they're lucky enough to escape
injuries, they could easily go all the way.

Mike JN

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>The Frailblazers are awesome right now, and winning breeds a winning
>attitude, which breeds more winning. If they're lucky enough to escape
>injuries, they could easily go all the way.

>Mike JN

Mike does have a good point here.... Just look at James Worthy.. He has
been on a winner and look how he breeds!!! :-}

REK

    So how did the Blazers do last night? ;-)  Suns won their 4th in a row
    and are only 6 games back.
    
    BTW - Glen, you might want to consider starting a Blazer note in the
    AIADM::BOSTON_CELTICS conference.  All the best basketball minds meet
    there, plus we still want to hear from you when SPORTS goes away.
    
    Mike

As a matter of fact, someone in the Celtics notesfile said the Kings beat the
TrailBlazers last night!!!! BIGGG upset if it's true.    No Comments???? 
Have people jumped off the Trailblazers bandwagon that quickly???  8^)

			Bob Cohen

    yup it's true!  That's why I put that reply in ;-)
    
    Mike

    First of all, yes it's true- David beat Goliath last night.
    
    The Blazers had a 19 point lead after the 1st period.  Dick Motta
    then got his 2nd tecnical and got tossed from the game.  That was
    the best thing that could possibly happen to the Kings!  The crowd
    really got into the game after that and the Kings got amazingly
    aggressive!  The Blazers shot 63% in the 1st period, then dropped
    to something like 27% in the 2nd, 33% inthe 3rd, and 31% in the
    4th.  
    
    I still can't believe it happened! Portland 88 Sacramento 100.
    
    Second of all- I did not nor will I ever jump off the Blazer bandwagon,
    it's just that I wasn't in the office until now.
    
    Glen.
    
    P.S. I will open a TrailBlazer note in the Boston_Celtics notefile!

    Portland blew a 19 point lead to lose by 13 to the mighty Sacexcremento
    Kings.

    			Early Christmas present

    Any Team that goes 19-1 has to be a very talented team, but you
    cannot affoard to give up any gifts in the NBA.  They still have
    quite a lead but this definatly goes in the Should have won column.
    I would hate to see a close race at the end and have this one in
    the L column.  I hope this builds them as a team.  They have what
    looks like a fairly easy schedule in December and should win at
    least 8 or the next 10....(maybe more).
    	Rest of Decembers Schedule
    Dec-14            Dallas       at Portland
    Dec-16            Orlando      at Portland
    Dec-18            Golden State at Portland
    Dec-20            Portland     at Golden State
    Dec-21            Portland     at LA Clippers
    Dec-23            Denver       at Portland
    Dec-26            Portland     at New York
    Dec-27            Portland     at Charlotte
    Dec-29            Portland     at Cleveland
    Dec-30            Portland     at Milwaukee

    I agree that Portland should win 8 of the nexted 10, and could easily
    win all 10.  Geez, what a cupcake schedule!  When will the be playing
    some real comp?
    
    Hawk

    January has some tough games (not many)
    Lakers in portland, portland at houston, at dallas, at detroit, at
    utah and they have milwaukee, phoenix and (sacramento) at home....
    
    A few gimmis to but Jan will be a rough month, they still should go
    at least 9-5 for jan, they could easily stay over .800 ball, unless
    they have some major injuries (hope not) Hopefully Porland, Phoenix,
    utah and San AN will all have good seasons, love to see Lakers with
    no Homecourt advantages through the playoffs....
    							Bulls Fan at Heart

    re: -2
    
    What do you mean, "When will they play some real comp.".  What do
    you call Detroit (Portland won), Golden State (Portland won), Chicago
    2 times (Portland won both), San Antonio (Portland won), Lakers
    (Portland won), and Phoenix (Portland lost).  Not only that, many
    people are saying that Portland is peaking too early, but they haven't
    even began to peak yet.  Last night's game is proof of that.  There
    are also a few other games this year when the Blazers didn't play
    well at all and still won.  That is a sign of a great team!
    
    Glen.
    
    p.s. What did I tell you guys.  You're already saying, "Wait untill
    January...." ;^)

>   When will they play some real comp.?
    
    Here ya go:
    
    Selected Phoenix Suns' basketball game(s):
    NOV-27  at Portland            TNT  KUTP
    JAN-22  at Portland            KUTP
    FEB-22  at Portland
    MAR-13     Portland            KUTP
    APR-21     Portland            NBC
    
    Mike

    Mike, you forgot these
    
    JAN-26  Sacremento
    FEB-6   at Sacremento
    APR-19  Sacremento
    
    The Wizard

    re:-1
    
    You know, if I were the Kings I would want to play the Blazers every
    night.  The first time they played back in game 2 of the season
    in Sacexcremento the Blazers only won by two in OT!  Then they beat
    us last night!  They seem to really get up for the Blazers.
    
    re:-2
    
    That's at least 5 more wins for this season! ;^)
    
    Glen.

    I couldn't believe the Kings came from 16 points down to win by 11!
    
    Mike

    I'm new to this VAXnotes so bare with me. My name is Ray in Portland
    and I'm sure glad Glen started this file. The Blazer's are the only
    team we have!
    
    What a start! I'm sorry the fans of hustle do not get to see Jerome
    play as much as we get to see him. The man plays with alot of heart.
    There is a three or four story picture of "Mercy" on a building
    downtown put up by, who else, NIKE. His intensity shows!
    
    Clyde is great but I worry about his "picking his spot" rather then
    playing all out. He can also try to do to much on offense and that
    effects the others.
    
    Terry Porter should be playing at the All-Star game. He has been the
     "go to man" and he wants it! I have a feeling that Clyde will be
    the only Blazer(besides Rick Adelman) on the West team. There are
    to many good players but Rick might get one more in.
    
    Kevin Duckworth is a better player from last year. His rebounds
    are up because he is more agressive. Last year I would scream at
    him to go after it instead of him waiting for the ball to bounce
    his way. The center on this team needs to be a scorer and "Duck" is
    that. 
    
    Buck Williams helped focus this team last year to care about the
    team, not the stats or the money. Those things will come as they
    did when Paul Allen gave Clyde,Buck then Jerome new contracts.
    
    Speaking of the owner, we were told that a new arena was in the
    working but nothing yet! The Memorial Collisum will be the smallest
    in the league once the Jazz finish theirs. 
    
    The bench has good days and bad days (the Kings can tell you) but
    three players stick out. Danny Ainge from Eugene is what we needed
    and Cliff Robinson has improved his patience on offense. His defense
    at all three front line positions are good (remember the Robinson
    duel last year when both of our centers missed six games). Mark
    Byrant has also gotten better at the offense end and is a "BULL"
    under the boards. 
    
    Danny Young,Wayne Cooper and Alaa (?) know their roles. "Petro"
    is another story. I think we should have kept Shawn McDaniel instead
    but Petro's contract might have been guarnteed.
    
    Rick Adelman is laid back but with a will to do his best and the
    players respect him for that. Rick was a feisty player back in the
    early 70's and knew what his role was. Geoff Petrie played with
    Rick and is head of operations for the Blazers(VP or something).
    One big happy family.
    
    The big question, can this winning continue at this pace? To para-
    phase Buck after the game in Indiana, "we are not machine's".
    They know their weaknesses and their strenghs and as long as Rick
    has them playing to their game, no one can match their total team
    effort. I agree that it's been fairly easy up to now but the road
    is calling and there are two games with Golden State this week.
    
    The Suns are our one true test but even with the X-man I will pick
    my Blazers to win the Pacific. The Lakers are old and not in a grove
    yet. It just might be to late.
    
    Sorry about the length, May I come aboard?
    
    R.W.
    
    
    

    > May I come aboard?
    
    Heck, bring your family and friends too!  It's been very quiet in
    SPORTS the last week or so.......
    
    Hawk

    Hey, knock it off you doomsayer! Do you mean just SPORTS?
    
    Hawk, are you located in the New England area?
    
    R.W.
    

>    Terry Porter should be playing at the All-Star game. He has been the
    
    I agree but he's a victim of the numbers game in the Western
    Conference.  With KJ, Magic, and Stockton also in the West, it will be
    tough for him.  All the best point men in the NBA are in the West!
    
    I know, to make room for Porter, let's make LA trade Magic to Boston
    for Ed Pinckney and Michael Smith ;-)
    
    Mike

    Yes, I'm in New England, a.k.a. the Northeast Corridor Circle Jerk!
    
    What I meant about "bye bye soon" is that OURGNG will soon no longer be
    running ::SPORTS.  If no one can find a new "home" for ::SPORTS, we may
    all have to split up into the various other "homer" sports conferences. 
    :-)  Actually, I've been dabbling in the Celtics notesfile, and it's
    not as bad (homerisms, blind loyalty) as I was led to believe.  Or
    maybe I haven't dabbled long enough yet......  :-)
    
    Hawk

>    :-)  Actually, I've been dabbling in the Celtics notesfile, and it's
>    not as bad (homerisms, blind loyalty) as I was led to believe.  Or
    
    It is the best sports conference on the net!  There's a "melting pot" in
    there now so everyone stays honest. ;-)
    
    Mike

    And when they get out of line, I come in to restore reality !

    Thanks for the info Hawk, I thought your location would help me
    understand where you getting your info. 
    
    R.W.                                  

 Well Doc, I guess the recent play then has your keyboard in write-lock!!

 ;^)

 mike

    Hawk,
    
    RE: .122 
    
    I should have wrote "Hey, knock it off you doomsayer :-).
    
    Please accept my apology,
    
    R.W.

    Doc, take a peek at the top of the Atlantic Division.  That's reality!

    
    	No, that's just a mirage Mike.   		
    
    						 glen j. 
    

>                      -< Must be that desert heat.  :-) >-
>    	No, that's just a mirage Mike.   		
    
    deserts and mirages don't exist in New England you twit! ;-)
    
    Mike

    Blazers 122, Warriors 94
    
    1st quarter 35 to 9, lowest points in club history scored by a
    opponent in the 1st quarter. Nellie tried to slow it down (like
    the Kings) and it backfired.
    
    Typical Jerome Kersey line, 18 points, 7 boards, 5 assists, 4 steals,
    3 block shots
    
    Clyde had 8 offensive boards out of 9 total.
    
    Blazer One flies out of the snow today heading for wet Oakland to
    take on the Warrior's on Thursday. Six out of the next seven are
    away from the Coliseum.
    
    Happy Holidays,
    
    R.W.  

>    Blazer One flies out of the snow today heading for wet Oakland to
>    take on the Warrior's on Thursday. Six out of the next seven are
>    away from the Coliseum.
    
    Great!  Let's hope they play some good teams for a change ;-)
    
    Mike

    Why does everyone want to knock off the one on top :-) ?
    The Blazers meet : Warriors  on 12-20, away
                       Clippers  on 12-21, away
                       Nuggets   on 12-23, home
                       Knicks    on 12-26, away
                       Hornets   on 12-27, away
                       Cavaliers on 12-29, away
                       Bucks     on 12-30 ,away
    
    Doesn't look real tough, does it? It is seven games in eleven nights.
    Everyone is up to playing the Blazers so I expect to see the best
    from these teams. Even if they win four out of the next seven, that's
    fourteen and four in December and twelve games were on the road.
    They then get four days off to wait (is that good?) for the Lakers
    to come to town the 1-3-91.
     
    I am starting to look at the schedule and wondering were a letdown
    would happen. Three more long road trips are still on the schedule
    (4,5,6 games) but lets see what happens tomorrow night.
    
    Go "No Respect" Blazers :-)
    
    R.W.
    
           
                     

    For everyone's information, there is a TrailBlazer topic in the
    Celtics notefile.  If you would like to add that file, it is
    AIADM::Boston_Celtics.  See you there!
    
    Go Blazers.
    Glen.

    5 of the next 7 teams that portland play are well below .500, they
    should take at least 5 and I expect theyll take 6...That means a
    28-3 record (Sounds good to me)  They have a 6 game lead over Phoenix
    who is very hot right now and a 7 game lead over lakers, after the
    lakers dropped one to CLEVLAND !!!!!....  Like to see portland
    stretch there lead out to 8-10 games over the next 2 weeks.....
    
    		Bulls Fan But enjoy portland (expecially over the lakers)
    								Mike

Didn't see any mention of this here yet.  Portland lost last night to Golden
State, 125-118.  Kevin Duckworth fouled out after only 28 minutes.  Drexler had
37 and Porter 22 but it wasn't enough to overcome superb games by Hardaway (36
points and 15 assists, which means he was directly or indirectly responsible
for 30 of GS's 44 baskets), Mullin, and Richmond.

Here's the box...


PORTLAND (118) AT GOLDEN STATE (125)

PORTLAND
                                               REBOUNDS
PLAYER           POS  MIN  FGM-FGA  FTM-FTA  OFF-DEF-TOT  AST  PF  ST  TO  PTS
======           ===  ===  =======  =======  ===========  ===  ==  ==  ==  ===

KERSEY            F    30    3-12     4-4      4   4   8    3   5   0   2   10
WILLIAMS          F    35    6-8      1-3      7   9  16    2   2   0   1   13
DUCKWORTH         C    28    8-14     1-2      2   2   4    0   6   0   3   17
DREXLER           G    43   11-23    12-15     1   1   2    5   4   1   4   37
PORTER            G    39    9-16     2-3      2   1   3    8   3   3   5   22
AINGE                  19    3-7      1-1      0   0   0    5   5   1   1    9
ROBINSON               23    3-11     0-0      2   6   8    3   3   1   2    6
YOUNG                  10    0-4      0-0      2   1   3    2   0   0   0    0
COOPER                  6    0-3      0-0      2   1   3    0   0   1   0    0
BRYANT                  7    2-2      0-0      1   2   3    1   3   1   0    4

TOTALS                240   45-100   21-28    23  27  50   29  31   8  18  118
                            (.450)   (.750)  TEAM REBS: 9

GOLDEN STATE
                                               REBOUNDS
PLAYER           POS  MIN  FGM-FGA  FTM-FTA  OFF-DEF-TOT  AST  PF  ST  TO  PTS
======           ===  ===  =======  =======  ===========  ===  ==  ==  ==  ===

HILL              F    27    3-9      1-1      5   8  13    0   5   1   4    7
MULLIN            F    45    9-18     7-7      0   4   4    3   4   1   4   25
JOHNSON           C    10    3-3      2-2      0   1   1    0   1   0   2    8
HARDAWAY          G    43   15-22     3-3      2   1   3   15   3   3   2   36
RICHMOND          G    40    8-20     8-10     1   7   8    1   5   1   1   24
LISTER                 24    3-5      4-6      3   7  10    0   4   0   2   10
TOLBERT                23    2-4      3-4      0   2   2    0   3   0   0    8
MARCIULIONIS           15    1-4      3-4      1   1   2    1   2   0   3    5
HIGGINS                11    0-1      2-2      0   0   0    0   0   0   1    2
PRITCHARD               2    0-1      0-0      0   0   0    0   0   0   0    0

TOTALS                240   44-87    33-39    12  31  43   20  27   6  19  125
                            (.506)   (.846)  TEAM REBS: 9

   PORTLAND           25   29   36   28  -  118
   GOLDEN STATE       28   34   33   30  -  125

BLOCKED SHOTS: GSW - HILL, MULLIN, LISTER. 
3-PT. FIELD GOALS: POR 7-13 (.538), DREXLER 3-4, PORTER 2-4,
AINGE 2-5. GSW 4-11 (.364), MULLIN 0-2, HARDAWAY 3-5, RICHMOND 0-1,
TOLBERT 1-1, HIGGINS 0-1, PRITCHARD 0-1.
TECHNICALS: GSW -- MULLIN, KERSEY. POR -- DUCKWORTH.
OFFICIALS: D GARRETSON, COSTABILE, WILLARD.
A - 15,025. 

    Yes, the Blazers lost last night.  Duckworth fouled out with only
    about a minute or so to go in the game.  Drexler had another great
    game and lead all scorers with 37.  Buck Williams lead all rebounders
    with 16.  That obviously was not quite enough to stop the Warriors
    tonight.  The Warriors were a totally different team from just 48
    hours before when the Blazers creamed them.  They were lighting
    it up from the outside, especially Hardeway.  He ended up with a
    big 36 points.  Portland now stands 22-3 with the schedule looking
    like this for the next three games.  Tonight at Clippers,  Sunday
    at home vs. the Nuggets and Wed. at the Nicks.
    
    I hope they can get back on the winning track tonight against the
    Slippers ;^) .
    
    Glen.

Sorry for passing on the misinformation about Duckworth's numbers.  I guess
people don't figure they really need a center against Golden State.

j.

    The game was on the tube and the execution down the stretch was
    worse then during the rest of the game. Drexler cannot seem to
    understand that he is not a point guard and Tim H. stole the ball.
    That was a possible four point swing with one minute to go. A great
    play by Tim and stupid of Clyde. 
    
    Duckworth was hammered across the face by Lister and a fight almost
    errupted. The ref's ( Darrel G. and two rookies ) failed to call
    it a fragrant foul. On the other end Kevin didn't control his 
    emotions and pulled Lister from behind and WAS called for a flagrant
    foul. Lister then wanted to fight, just showing the lack of respect
    that was given to the ref's. Lister's foul was obviously more
    vicious. He went right for Kevin's head. That could have been a
    8 point swing.
    
    Kevin's offense all night with great, he kept Portland in the game
    while everyon else was missing. The team sometimes fails to get the
    ball to Kevin when he is open under the basket. I guess the Terry
    and Clyde feel that Kevin should only get the ball on the pick and
    roll or on post up plays.
    
    The lack of execution during parts of the game cost the Blazers
    a victory.
    
    R.W.