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Created:Thu Dec 14 1989
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367.0. "University of South Carolina Gamecocks" by RAVEN1::M_PHILLIPS (Flirting With Disaster) Mon Sep 24 1990 04:40

    It was reported this weekend that the New Orleans Tribune will announce
    that the SEC will in fact expand to 12 teams and that The University of
    South Carolina will recieve the invitation to be the 12th team in the
    SEC!! This was reported to be coming out in monday mornings newspaper!!
     I think this will be great, if indeed this does happen!! I know we will
    be getting our butts kicked some, but I also think we will hold our own
    in that conference pretty well!!!
    
    This will also be a place to write your feelings on the Gamecocks,
    since we were ran out of the ACC conference and now we were ran out of the
    ACC note.:-) 
    
    True the Cocks did want the ACC,but they went with Fla. St.!! No hard
    feelings here!! SEC will be much more competive for us, in the ACC the
    worst we could have ever finished would have been 3rd or 4th!!:-)
    
    Here is the schedule the Cocks and the scores I have to date on the
    Gamecocks.
                     University of South Carolina
                       1990 Football Schedule 
                    
                       USC vs DUKE @Home   Win, can't remember the score
                       USC vs UNC  @home   USC 27  UNC 5
                       USC vs Virginia Tech USC 35 Virginia Tech 24
                       USC vs G.A.Tech
                       USC vs East Carolina @Home
                       USC vs Citadel @Home
                       USC vs N.C.State
                       USC vs Fla.State @Home
                       USC vs S.Illinois @Home
                       USC vs Clemson
                       USC vs W.Virginia @Home
    If we get by G.A.Tech and I believe we will, then we have a good shot
    at a good bowl. The only team I see beating us will be Fla. St.!! I
    hope.
     Saturday was a tough game for the Cocks and we were lucky to get out
    of there with a win. Anyway I'm glad we won nomatter how we did it.
     All comments welcome!!! Pro and Con!!
    
    GO GAMECOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                     M.J.
    
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367.1RAVEN1::D_SMITHMon Sep 24 1990 14:0710
    
    The first couple of years will be tough for USC.It will be a big
    adjustment going from playing so-so ACC teams and playing in the best
    conference in the country.Clemson will not be so tough a game for the
    Gamecocks after going through the SEC schedule.
    
    
                              Good Luck,
                                Dave (Tennessee Vol fan)
    
367.2football, I supposeHBAHBA::HAASsame as talking to youMon Sep 24 1990 14:5811
I suppose you're referring to football about the so-so ACC teams. We're
not in a Big1x/BigEast/ACC basketball argument. If so, I agree as does
Miami. Supposedly they're off to join some new and improved Big East
alignment so they can play football and basketball against Syracuse,
Boston College and anyone else they can find that can field a football
team, I guess.

Georgraphically and in terms of athletics, South Carolina should fit in
well with the SEC. Good Luck, 'Cocks.

TTom
367.3football onlyRAVEN1::D_SMITHMon Sep 24 1990 15:0614
367.4How the Gamecocks got their name....CAM::WAYPez...Cherry flavored Pez..definitelyMon Sep 24 1990 15:2017
From a blurb in Matt Godek's Rugby and Soccer Supply catalog, describing
the University of South Carolina Rugby jersey:

	An account of an early American football game said
	that the South Carolina team "fought like game cocks."
	In 1903, one morning paper, the State, shortened the name
	to one word, and the South Carolina teams have been
	"Gamecocks" ever since.  The University of South Carolina
	Rugby clbu has adopted the Eagle pattern jersey in white
	with black and garnet, but with the Fighting Gamecock,
	known for its courage and spirit in battle, embroidered
	on the chest....


If anyone would like one, you can get it from Godek's for $42.00.

'Saw
367.5Eat a Cock!RAVEN1::B_ADAMSThe time has come!Mon Sep 24 1990 16:3011
    
    	Cocks? In the SEC? HA! What a joke! They will definetly get their
    COCKS wipped!
    
    	Should do them good as Dave has said. In a few years,they might be
    able to hold their own against the big boys in the SEC. Till then,
    Cocks will have 3 more new head coaches, and 2 more probations!
    
    	As for this season, Cocks will lose to State, Clemson, Fla St.
    
    B.A.
367.6B.A. You crack me up!!!RAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterTue Sep 25 1990 02:574
    B.A. be for real we have had states # for the last few years!!! Fla.St.
    I will agree with, but that will be a close game and may be an upset in
    the works!!!!!!!! Clem SUCKS!!!!!!!
                                                         M.J.
367.7SEC adds University of South CarolinaRAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterWed Sep 26 1990 02:358
    The SEC has in fact added USC to be the 12th team member!!! This was
    announced tonight at around 7:30pm.
    I personally feel that this will benefit USC in every sport!! And help
    a great deal in recruiting!! I know it will be like death row also, but
    I think this will only improve an already great football team!!
    
    Watch out SEC, The Cocks are on their way!!!!!!
                                                          M.J.
367.8Volunteers 10-0-2 (hopefully)RAVEN1::D_SMITHMon Oct 01 1990 10:1123
    
    During the UT/Auburn game they posted the likely split in the SEC.The
    SEC is going to have two divisions and have the winners of each
    division play for the sec championship.Here is how they were listed
    Saturday.
    
                    Alabama       |      Arkansas
                    Auburn        |      Florida
                    Kentucky      |      Georgia
                   Tennessee      |      LSU
                 South Carolina   |      Mississippi
                   Vanderbilt     |      Miss. St.
                 -----------------------------------
                    
    South Carolina could have it rough having to play Tennessee,Auburn,and
    Alabama every year,but Vanderbilt and Kentucky should help them out in
    the win column.Will enjoy going to Columbia to see the Vols play the
    Gamecocks even though its a couple of years away.
    
    
    Getting ready for Florida Gators,
    Dave              
                                   
367.9bum dealHBAHBA::HAASsame as talking to youMon Oct 01 1990 11:128
>                    Alabama       |
>                    Auburn        |
>                   Tennessee      |

I'd demand a recount. Georgia and LSU are in decline. Florida is going on
probation. This is really skewed in terms of football at least.

TTom
367.10RAVEN1::D_SMITHMon Oct 01 1990 11:4114
367.11GO COCKSRAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterTue Oct 02 1990 01:374
    Thats almost like "DEATH ROW" for the Cocks, but hopefully by the time
    we play those guys our recruiting will have payed off!!!!
    
                                                     M.J.
367.12Tech whips USCRAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterWed Oct 03 1990 07:2513
    Well, now that I'm over our loss, I can say we got our a** KICKED!!!
    The only thing I really hate about it, is that now G.A. Tech is all
    banged up and won't be the same team when they play Maryland and
    Clemson and V.A.  I hope they get to full strength when they play V.A.
    and Clemson,cause they are a tough team and has potential to upset some
    good teams.
    
    Final score G.A. Tech 27    USC 6  :-(:-(:-(:-0 
    
    Well, "Wait till next year" :-):-)Ha!
    
       WE WILL BE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                             M.J.
367.13more info?HBAHBA::HAASsame as talking to youWed Oct 03 1990 08:228
M.J.

Couldja please elaborate on Ga Tech injuries.

You're right about the game: one-sided. Very disappointed in Fuller. He
looks scared back there.

TTom
367.14Q/BRAVEN1::B_ADAMSI want my Dish!Wed Oct 03 1990 15:455
367.15InjuriesRAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterThu Oct 04 1990 01:1723
    Q.B. Shawn Jones hurt his foot and will be out this week for sure and
    questionable for the following week.
    Both tailbacks were hurt, nothing serious...pulled and strained leg
    muscles. Listed as questionable for this week.
    One of the off. line men( Dodd said his best linemen) I can't remember
    his name, has bruised ribs and also questionable for this week.
    
    I don't think Fuller was scared, he just wasn't ready for their strong
    defense and did panic some and try to force the ball. He(Fuller) said
    that one ball got hung in the wind at the end zone and on the other two
    he said was poor judgement!! Woods said he felt the loss did them good
    and showed them what a strong defense will do to you, and they should
    be ready for the remaining games. We'll see!!
    
    Dodd said that the turnovers were the deciding factor and that he was
    glad that things fell Techs way and that the next game could be the
    other way around and Tech be the loser. He said Carolina was a much
    better team than they showed sat. night. IMO.....He's just being
    nice:-):-)!!
    
    I feel Carolina will get back on track and get back in the top 25, I
    hope!!
                                                                M.J.
367.16a different game, nowHBAHBA::HAASsame as talking to youThu Oct 04 1990 10:037
Jones being out for the Maryland game doesn't help Ga Tech's cause.

I was impressed with Tech's defense and the 'Cocks stayed in the game for
a while but just like State, they folded in the 2nd half against the
constant pressure of the Tech Defense.

TTom
367.17Dodd was alltime Great!CGVAX2::REEVEThu Oct 04 1990 17:028
    re .15
    
    Thanks for bringing back some great memories by quoting Bobby Dodd.
    I wish he was still the coach at Tech, but unfortunately for us, he
    retired in 1966 and died a couple of years ago.  Bobby Ross is the
    coach now.
    
    Chris
367.18MAN....That was A "BIG OOPS" Sorry!!!RAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterFri Oct 05 1990 02:4610
    I noticed that after I had already sent it. Sorry!!!
    
    Like I said, the defense of USC was the only bright spot and that wasn't
    too much of a shine, but considering the amount of time those guys were
    out there, I think they did a great job by holding Tech to only 27pts.
    
    Well, on to a couple of "EASY" wins, I HOPE!!!! I'm not putting them in
    the "W" column yet!!!!!!!:-)
    
                                                             M.J.
367.19USC whips E. CarolinaRAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterTue Oct 16 1990 03:3117
    USC rolls this past weekend against a "weak" East Carolina team, final
    score USC 37 E.Carolina 7.
    USC looked really good, but it's hard to say sense they played a beaten
    team, but hey, they still looked good. Alot of mistakes in the kicking
    department, which they better get fixed before Fla St. comes to town.
    
    We have a freshman standout by the name of Rob Deboer from Omaha, Neb.
    He is an excellent back. Seems that N.D., Nebraska, Colorado all
    recruited this guy and let him go!!! He wanted to play both Baseball
    and Football and only USC was the only one willing to let him do that.
    We down here are glad to have him. He will only add to an already great
    Baseball team(He is hitting .526) and plays catcher, I believe. He sure
    as heck helps out our Football team and I hope they use him alot more
    than they have been. He didn't even play against G.A. Tech, not that it
    would have made a difference, but you never know!!!
    
                                                    M.J." GO COCKS"
367.20RAVEN1::B_ADAMSIt's that time again!Tue Oct 16 1990 15:228
367.21Waiting on N.C. StateRAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterWed Oct 17 1990 01:305
    B.A. suck a BIG one. I will enjoy it alot when I put in the USC vs N.C.
    State score in here. I'm sure State will do their ususal and score......
    ....................0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) :-)
    
                                                            M.J.            
367.22RAVEN1::B_ADAMSRocky Horror is on his way!Wed Oct 17 1990 15:527
    re-1,
    	
    	Dreeeeammm  Dream, dream, dream, dreeeaammm! Remember that song!
    	
    	wake up! You're having a night-mare!
    
    B.A.
367.23Bulldogs cream Cocks34223::HUNTNo. 1 Ranked Virginia CavaliersSun Oct 21 1990 13:197
    The Citadel 38, South Carolina 35
    
    The Cocks' nightmares have only just begun.
    
    In-state rivalries are not for the faint of heart.
    
    Bob Hunt
367.24CREAM is putting it TOO nicely!!!!!33864::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterMon Oct 22 1990 03:1218
    There is not much to say on this one!!! USC just got WHIPPED and thats
    all there was to it. Taking nothing away from Citadel, but they wanted
    this game. They had nothing to lose and everything to gain if they beat
    Carolina and they did, just plain whipped them and dominated the Cocks.
    
    I sure feel sorry for Carolina this week during practice!!! Woods even
    pubicily apologized for this loss to the fans on the news and said this
    was the worst loss of his career. I couldn't believe it, it just had me
    in awe and I didn't know what to think.
    
    I hope they get their act together and win the rest which is doubtful
    at this point and the only way I see them getting a bowl bid is by
    winning the remainder of their games and I hoping for one HELL of a
    miracle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) :-)
    
    B.A., I'm not worried about State at all, I'm sure they will CHOKE!!!
    :-) :-) :-)
                                                       M.J.
367.2533864::B_ADAMSRocky Horror is on his way!Mon Oct 22 1990 14:0110
367.26University South Carolina 42 N.C. State 17RAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterFri Oct 26 1990 06:206
    I look for USC to whip up on State this weekend after that humilating
    lost to Citadel. They let everyone down and I think they feel they will
    have something to prove to get the fans back in good standing. Even
    thru the lost the Cocks will sell out Carter-Finley, such great fans!!
    
                                                  M.J.
367.27RAVEN1::B_ADAMSCould this be the year?Fri Oct 26 1990 15:479
367.28"POUROUS" Carolina Defense!!!!RAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterMon Oct 29 1990 04:1610
    B.A., we brought alot more than 2000 people!!!!!! 
    
    Anyway, go ahead, you have bragging rights on this one!!!! Another POOR
    showing of our defense, Offense looked great!!!!But, again we couldn't
    stop kick returns and just couldn't stop them....PERIOD!!!! And Fla.
    St. is coming to town saturday..........OH MY GOD.....Please Help us!!
    Not another 59 - 0!!!Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-)
    
    Later!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                 M.J.
367.29Ha!RAVEN1::B_ADAMSCould this be the year?Mon Oct 29 1990 15:288
367.30Have no fear, Sparky's here!!!!!! :-)33864::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterTue Oct 30 1990 02:2012
    I'm still pulling for them!!!!!!!! Fla. St. Has not impressed me that
    much this year and against LSU they didn't look all thatimpressive.IMO!!
    If the Cocks can get their "D" in order, they will have an outside
    chance at Fla. St.  Dingle has been a let down so far...9 carries for
    38 yds, Hell I probaly could do that!! They need to give Deboer the
    ball more I feel. Anyway, We will see this saturday!!!!!
    
    I say........ U.S.C. 38  Fla. St. 27
    
    Boy, I'm hoping BIG!!!!!!!!! :-) :-)
    
                                                     M.J.
367.31RAVEN1::B_ADAMSCould this be the year?Tue Oct 30 1990 16:4911
    re-1,
    
    	Yo! Hello! Wake up out there! You've got to be kidding! Are you
    serious or just stupid?
    
    I know the answer to that one!  :*)
    
    See ya Sat.
    
    B.A.
    
367.32Cocks take a licking and......????????!!!!!!!!33864::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterThu Nov 08 1990 06:4914
    Another disappointing loss, at the hands of a more worthy team makes it
    alittle easier to swallow. We had two interceptions dropped, one would
    have went for a td, but somehow he dropped it. Not that it would have
    changed anything, but I'm sure it would have helped. The USC defense
    again played most of the game. The offense was three downs and punt all
    day.
    
    We have S. Ill. coming to town this saturday, can't say its a sure win
    cause its not. Should be, but its not. I hope they can punish this team
    and get all its frustration out on them and get some confidence built
    up before we travel into tiger town. We will just have to wait and see.
    
    Later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                           M.J. 
367.3333864::B_ADAMSCould this be the year?Thu Nov 08 1990 16:237
367.34USC 38 S.Illi 14 33864::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterFri Nov 09 1990 05:124
    Since you said that B.A., we should win and win BIG!!!! Thanks!!!!
    
    
                                                  M.J.
367.35Cocks Win... WOW33864::RJONESMon Nov 12 1990 06:4511
    Mike, Tell me how it feels to win. Way to go.
    
    Don't worry about B.A. It's easy to take cheap shots at good programs
    when your neither your favorite team or driver is worth a flip. 
    
    B.A. did State beat Duke Saturday ?  They don't show State scores
    untill after they run the Ivy league and Big Sky scores, and I can't
    stay up that late.
    
    Go VOLS...
    Rich
367.36I'm still in the clouds!! Where is Lonnie Mote??33864::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterMon Nov 12 1990 07:409
    Yea, I was so excited I forgot about putting it in here. Now, were off
    to Clemsuck to kick some as*!!!!!!!!! If our "D" can hold clemson,
    Carolina will kill them. Clemsuck has a weak pass defense and we can
    pick them alive, if Fuller will just hit the open man. We will all see
    in a few days!!
    
    Early predicition................USC 37  Clemsuck 24
    
                                                         M.J.
367.37RAVEN1::B_ADAMSCould this be the year?Mon Nov 12 1990 15:5817
367.38'O Lord here comes "PACK" fever!!!RAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterTue Nov 13 1990 02:2814
    State beat the Cocks, Hell so did the Citadel!!!!! If our "d" would
    learn to stop teams like they did early in the year we would have been
    ok, but "if" is a big word.
    
    Right now B.A., we would be happy with beating a high school team. We
    will take it anyway we can get it!!!!!
    
    State going to a bowl is crazy!!!!! I can't see it!!! But with Sheridan
    they are capable of beating anybody, YEA, I said ANYbody!!!!
    
    USC is going to change they're schedule and add Wofford, Kentucky, and
    Citadel again for a rematch!!!! :-)
    
                                                M.J.
367.39Romp!RAVEN1::B_ADAMSIt's about time!Tue Nov 13 1990 16:497
367.40Not a chance, B.A.RAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterWed Nov 14 1990 02:293
    I guess we will just have to wait and see!!! I still go with my score
    that I said earlier.
                                                     M.J.
367.41Carolina in Independence Bowl????????RAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterThu Nov 15 1990 06:1611
    USC is high on a list of teams being considered for the Dec 15,
    Independence Bowl in Shreveport, La. Even if they lose to Clemsuck they
    could still be giving a chance to play there if some other things
    happen. I would like to see this, maybe we could win this one. Baylor
    is going to be one entry and if LSU doesn't win both of it's remaining
    games USC would be the preferred team even if they lose one of their
    last two.
    
    Well, maybe we get a bowl after all!!!!! Here's hoping!!!!
    
                                                         M.J. (Go Cocks)
367.42Cocks 0-? in bowlsRAVEN1::RJONESThu Nov 15 1990 06:439
    Mike, Do you really want to go to a bowl ???
    
    What if they just sent you all the money cause you know you can't win
    one. I'll bet B.A. will even agree with me one this one.
    
    Congrats to you and Dale... With Mark in a Davey Ford that all but
    wraps up the championship.
    
    Rich
367.43RAVEN1::B_ADAMSIt's about time!Thu Nov 15 1990 17:167
367.44I think, I think.......we can win this one!!!:-)RAVEN1::M_PHILLIPSFlirting With DisasterFri Nov 16 1990 02:4322
    Hey, This is the year!!!! We finally win a bowl and hopefully I will be
    there if we do happen to go. Hell, if State can go to a bowl, then we
    can. You know the saying, keep trying to you get it right!!! Lord knows
    we have had the chances. Maybe he will help us this year, seeing how we
    are "Drug Free" now!!! Just say NO!!!!!:-) :-)
    
    It was reported today that LSU would not got to this bowl even if they
    won their last two. The Independence said that USC would be the other
    team even with a lost to Clemsuck(We will beat them) as long as we beat
    WVA. If USC losses to Clemsuck then the winner of USC and WVA on
    turkey night would go to the Independence Bowl. If USC beats Clemsuck
    then they will go nomatter what happens on turkey night. Remember USC
    would not let it's team go last year due to exams being the same week
    and the Leaders of USC got alot of upset letters on that move and I
    feel that was one reason USC got whipped by Clemsuck so bad(45-0). The
    players wanted to go, but the university said no and from what I hear
    most of the players said, F*ck it, it don't matter how we do against
    Clemsuck so why even try. This year USC has said they would accept the
    bid if it was extended. We got to pray, just to make it today!! :-)
    
    Here's hoping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                       M.J.
367.45Oldie but a goodieSHALOT::HUNTShoeless Joe Belongs In CooperstownFri Nov 16 1990 11:509
 An old joke reprinted in yesterday's Charlotte Observer ...
 
 Why do the Gamecocks eat their cereal in plates ???
 
 	o	Because if they were in a bowl, they'd lose it.
 
 Tee-hee ...
 
 Bob Hunt
367.46South Carolina should reach the Top 20 this week.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueMon Dec 10 1990 18:0527
    TTom made an anti-Carolina comment a few days ago that hit me with a
    cold dose of reality yesterday while digesting the sports
    section.  (Given the sheer volume of anti-Carolina comments made by
    TTom, more specifics are obviously necessary at this point.  :^( )
    
    Anyways the thought was that UNC fans, in their snobbery and
    self-righteousness, are only concerned about the team in baby blue,
    practically ignoring the competition.  Now in defense of this I could
    easily point to his own hypocrisy, which concludes that everytime
    Carolina loses it's a "choke", regardless of the competition, but this
    time I won't do that.  Simply, I agree.
    
    UNC suffered a horrible beating at the hands of South Carolina a week
    or so ago.  I classified the 2nd half as the worst performance ever by
    a Carolina squad, at least in my tenure as a fan.  And yet I read where
    the Cocks laid a horrible beating on the Temple Owls, a Top 25 squad!
    
    So, congrats USC, and accept my apology for a very un-Dean like failure
    to congratulate the opposition for what had to be an incredible win. 
    (Special congrats to ass't USC coach Jimmy Black, engineer of our 1982
    Title.)
    
    Sincerely,
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
367.47congrats on the congratsHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughMon Dec 10 1990 19:055
Chris,

Dean doesn't always choke. At least not during the regular season.

TTom