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Conference 7.286::sports_90

Title:OURGNG::SPORTS - Digital's daily tabloid
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Created:Thu Dec 14 1989
Last Modified:Fri Dec 17 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:438
Total number of notes:50420

310.0. "Michael Jordan - The World's Greatest Athlete" by CRUISE::JBONIN (John Bonin, U.S. Data Warehouse DBA) Thu Jul 26 1990 11:07

    Michael Jordan has to be the greatest athlete in the world, I've
    never seen anyone with such talents. Everyone knows he rules in
    hoops, but these past few weeks watching the tube, I've been
    amazed at what I saw. Forget the Bo's, Michael knows!
    
    A couple of weeks ago the celebrity golf tourney showed me that
    Michael knows golf. Did anyone catch the hole in one from the sand 
    trap?!
    
    Last night I saw an even more amazing feat. He was practicing with
    the White Sox or some other team, and caught some pretty amazing
    catches. The he got up to the plate and hit not one, but two homers!!
    And he has a smooth Strawman-style swing!
    
    Seeing how high he can jump, I'd have to bet he would have a field
    day at a track event.
    
    
    Did anyone else catch Michael hitting them out of the park, and if
    I'm right it was one of the parks where home runs don't come easy.
    
    John
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310.1Greatest indeed.SHALOT::MEDVIDmuscle and hateThu Jul 26 1990 11:198
    He was with the White Sox at Comiskey.  Easy or not, he just missed the
    upper deck on his second homer.
    
    The pitcher was pitching much slower than normal, however (I'd guess
    around 70 MPH).  I would guess that this makes it easier to make
    contact, but harder to crank out of the park.  More proof of his power?
    
    	--dan'l
310.2All hail, MichaelSHALOT::HUNTWyld Stallyns RulesThu Jul 26 1990 11:253
Michael Jordan is God.

Bob Hunt
310.3Great example to kids, tooRONALD::VENDERThu Jul 26 1990 11:3412
    Jordan is an incredible athlete.  Despite the fact that he gets razzed
    on in here as a whiner to his teammates,  the man is also a class act.
    He is probably the top visible sportstar of younger kids from
    professional sports, today (that I can recall).  He is highly
    visible as one of the greatest athletes in the sport as well as being
    gifted in many other areas, yet he has never acted arrogant off the
    court about his abillities(not to my recollection at least).  Unlike
    many other athletes(i.e. Thomas) he hasn't stooped and taken swipes at
    others to boost his ego.  Jordan, in my opinion, presents a very good
    ,and clean role model for younger kids today.
    
    Tom
310.4Ramblings Comparing Michael and BoLUDWIG::BARBIERILord take my heart, for I cannot give it.Thu Jul 26 1990 11:5131
      It's interesting to compare Bo Jackson and Michael Jordan.
      The biggest difference I see is the sheer difference in
      mass.
    
      When I think of great athletes, I tend to think in terms of
      1: agility, coordination.  No doubt, I would give the nod to
      Michael in those areas.  And 2: pure physical ability I wonder
      who's faster.  Probably Bo.  But, then vertical leap is mainly a
      purely physical ability (like speed).  Michael's gotta be able
      to jump higher!
    
      And going back to the agility, coordination type things, Danny
      Ainge who played baseball said that the hardest thing he ever
      tried to do is hit a baseball.  And there's Bo doing it up in
      the big leagues.  So here's a guy with tremendous speed and 
      size excelling in something primarily agility.
    
      So they both seem to have the pure physical ability coupled with
      that agility.  I would pick Michael Jordan though as the better
      athlete.
    
      One sport that I think one sees great athletes (at least in terms
      of coordination) is tennis.  While being nowhere (compared to
      the likes of Bo or Michael) is the jumping ability or speed, I
      think coordination-wise John Mcenroe was just awesome.  His net
      gane was incredible (the hand eye coordination, the agility).
    
      Would that have been something to see a guy like Michael Jordan
      whose professional craft was tennis.  Of course we'd have missed
      his basketball.
                                     
310.5PARVAX::WARDLEImpeach Jim Florio...NOW!Thu Jul 26 1990 12:313
    I usually think of /Don when I think of great athletes.
    
    JoJ
310.6CAM::WAYShot down, in a blaze of gloryThu Jul 26 1990 13:0427
I guess I still maintain that it's extremely difficult to look
at two athletes from different sports and say with finality which
one is better.

Since the range of sports are so completely different, it's very
difficult to say "so and so is the worlds greatest athlete".

Bo certainly is talented and coordinated and very versatile.
Michael Jordon, when he plays, reminds me of a mountain stream,
because he's so very fluid.

Different people who excel at their chosen sport do so because their
skills are apt for that sport.  I could never be a sprinter because
I'm not fast.  I couldn't play defensive line because I don't have
the mass.

To compare two individuals and try to find a best is kind of a waste
of time.

I admire Jack Nicklaus as one of the greatest golfers of all time.
The coordination involved in the game of golf is very involved.
I admire Michael Jordon as a basketball player, and Bill Rogers as
a marathon runner, and Ted Williams as a great hitter, but I can't
sit back and say unequivocably one is better than the other....

JMHO,
'Saw
310.7SASE::SZABOGot nothing but hell to pay.Thu Jul 26 1990 13:132
    Ever see how much /Don sweats after a /Workout?  Clearly a_athalete!
    
310.8UPWARD::HEISERnobody's fault but mineThu Jul 26 1990 14:003
    Jordan isn't a whiner, Magic Johnson is!
    
    Was his tongue hanging out when he cranked the second one? ;-)
310.9FSHQA2::JRODOPOULOSSteak n' Potatoes ManThu Jul 26 1990 14:313
    Although I agree that Jordan is an excellent athlete, what about Daley
    (sp) Thompson of the UK ?  He has one the decathlon for several years
    and is considered the best in the world.  
310.10RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOEraserhead LIVES!!!Thu Jul 26 1990 14:3412
    re .0
    
    Jordan is a great athlete, but just because he can jump high doensn't
    mean he'd have a field day at a track meet.   I'd guess Micheal
    can high jump and long jump at best as good as a good high schooler.
    
    re .9
    
    Daley Thompson was the best decathlete in the world.  He  no longer
    is, but Daley was truley one of the greatest ever.
    
    JD
310.11"Cheekey Daley" is one in a millionCOGITO::HILLThu Jul 26 1990 14:5620
    Yeah, I got a kick out of Daley Thompson and the English "gutter press"
    Thompson would say sarcastic/humourous/joking things, and the eejits
    would take him seriously. 
    
    He got into a little hot water withthe stuffed shirts at the '84
    Olympics. I think one of the "journalists" asked him if he planned to 
    settle down with a young lady after the olympics and what princess Anne
    (of the British equestrian team) had said to him before a race.
    Thompson replied, "Well, you've just mentioned the lady, and what she
    said was, 'I hope our children will be white'"
    
    In the '88 Olympics, he broke his pole on the pole vault, so he was
    disqualified from the decathalon. an interviewer approached him with
    the ususal "Gee, tough break out there...." Daley said, "well, not
    really, since now I can go on holiday to Disneyland" 
    
    I died laughing. so many athletes today are too stiff to even *think*
    of something clever to say
    
    Tom
310.12DECWET::CROUCHGrand marshall of the dork paradeThu Jul 26 1990 16:2011
    re: .0
    
    >A couple of weeks ago the celebrity golf tourney showed me that
    >Michael knows golf. Did anyone catch the hole in one from the sand
    >trap?
    
    How do you get a hole-in-one from a sand trap?  I've played alot of
    golf, but have never teed off in a sand trap.  Or, do you mean he
    hit one in from the trap?  That's not a hole-in-one.
    
    Pete
310.1315436::LEFEBVREFScottKey,SmokeyRobinson,RBarrThu Jul 26 1990 16:283
    Don't obfuscate with facks.
    
    Mark.
310.14SASE::SZABOGot nothing but hell to pay.Thu Jul 26 1990 16:373
    And remember to wax eloquent.
    
    Hawkspeare.
310.15CRUISE::JBONINJohn Bonin, U.S. Data Warehouse DBAThu Jul 26 1990 17:2110
    RE: .12
    
    C'mon, you know what I meant! :-)
    
    I should have said a 1-holer from the sand trap, ah never mind.
    
    Anyway when he did it, I said to myself, now only MJ could do that!
    
    
    John
310.16QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Thu Jul 26 1990 17:525
   Good note, Bob. As usual.
   

   Somebody had to say it.
   Mike JN
310.17CAM::WAYShot down, in a blaze of gloryThu Jul 26 1990 18:0913
re .15:


Bob Tway did it to win the PGA two years ago, beating a dumbstruck
Greg Norman.

The headlines in our paper said "Tway Holes Out to Win PGA".
One of the guys at work here, doctored the headline so it said
"Way Holes Out to Win PGA".

It was kind of fun imagining, ya know....

'Saw
310.18PNO::HEISERnobody's fault but mineThu Jul 26 1990 18:251
    Hey 'Saw, do you have a brother named Milky?
310.19DECWET::CROUCHGrand marshall of the dork paradeThu Jul 26 1990 18:527
    Yeah, John, I knew what you meant.  I'm just in an anal-retentive
    mood today. 8^).
    
    John Bonin, huh?  Didn't you choke to death on your own vomit a few
    years back?  You must be proud of your son, Jason and his new band!
    
    Pete
310.20CAM::WAYShot down, in a blaze of gloryFri Jul 27 1990 10:5414
re Heiser...

Gawd, that's the oldest one in the book 8^)

Actually, while the name is fairly rare here in the States, I've heard
from relatives and others that in some towns in England, there are more
Ways in the phone book than Smiths.

My brother's name is Tim.  He's named after our maternal grandfather,
and I'm named after our paternal grandfather...

HTH,
'Saw

310.21'Saw, I thought your brother's name is Jimmy? :-) SASE::SZABOGot nothing but hell to pay.Fri Jul 27 1990 11:011
    
310.22CAM::WAYShot down, in a blaze of gloryFri Jul 27 1990 11:301
That's my other brother Jimmy 8^)
310.23CSC32::J_HERNANDEZSMASH THE PUMPKIN!!! (tm)Fri Jul 27 1990 11:532
    Didn't I hear that your sister's nickname was "No". 
                                         
310.24Naw, her real name is "Every"! ;^)CSTEAM::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Fri Jul 27 1990 12:091
    
310.25CAM::WAYShot down, in a blaze of gloryFri Jul 27 1990 12:111
Nope, don't have a sister.
310.26MCIS1::DHAMELBeat the heat: Note nakedFri Jul 27 1990 12:5411
    
    >    John Bonin, huh?  Didn't you choke to death on your own vomit a few
  
    Not exactly.  It was someone else's vomit.
    
    Now, this came from some Rob Reiner movie about a mythical heavy
    metal band, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was.
    Can somebody sate my curiosity?
    
    Dickster
    
310.27VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!"Fri Jul 27 1990 12:559
>>    Now, this came from some Rob Reiner movie about a mythical heavy
>>    metal band, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was.
>>    Can somebody sate my curiosity?

It's from "This is Spinal Tap".  With the recent demise of the latest Grateful
Dead's keyboardist, I have been thinking about that movie and the correlation
between Spinal Tap drummers and Grateful Dead keyboardists ;-).

j.
310.28One of the funniest movies of all time.SHALOT::MEDVIDmuscle and hateFri Jul 27 1990 13:038
    "Well, we weren't sure it was his own vomit.  You can't dust vomit,
    y'know."
    
    And they're other drummer "died in a bizare gardening accident."
    
    Classic.
    
    	--dan'l
310.29CSC32::J_HERNANDEZSMASH THE PUMPKIN!!! (tm)Fri Jul 27 1990 14:131
    I roll every time I hear "Big Bottoms".
310.30Yawkey WayPNO::HEISERnobody's fault but mineFri Jul 27 1990 15:291
    
310.31CRUISE::JBONINJohn Bonin, U.S. Data Warehouse DBAFri Jul 27 1990 15:3515
    RE: .19
    
    Anal-retentive, huh? Tried ExLax? :-)
    
    Yeah, I've been dead for about 10 years now. I don't get
    anal-retentive, the wind passes right through me! :-)
    
    
    re: .26
    
    Someone else's? Not unless I had a lip-lock on Linda Blair
    
    
    Johyn
    
310.32PNO::HEISERwhen the wild winds blowMon Jul 30 1990 20:2143
Newsgroups: clari.sports.baseball,clari.sports.basketball
Subject: Jordan homers in BP display

	CHICAGO (UPI) -- Michael Jordan can do everything.
	The Chicago Bulls superstar Wednesday fulfilled a childhood dream
by taking batting practice at Comiskey Park before the Chicago White
Sox-Cleveland Indians game.
	During the five-minute session, Jordan hit two home runs, launching
a pitch into the first row of the lower deck in left field and hitting
another off the upper facade in left.
	``This is something I dreamed about as a kid,'' Jordan said of his
youthful aspirations to play major league baseball. ``I kind of lost
that dream when I started playing basketball. This renewed some of those
dreams.''
	White Sox coach Dave LaRoche was on the mound, the Chicago players
lined the outer edge of the infield, and the back of the batting cage
was surrounded by television cameras from around the country. When
Jordan swings, people take pictures.
	``It didn't take me long. After a few swings, I started making good
contact,''  said Jordan, a right-hander who pulled most of his hits to
left field.
	He didn't miss many, which didn't surprise Bulls and White Sox
owner Jerry Reinsdorf who arranged for Jordan's dream to come true.
	``I don't think there's anything he can't do,'' Reinsdorf said.
``I've seen him bowl. He threw two strikes and a spare between his
legs.''
	The pre-BP hype centered on the appearance of No. 23, which is both
Jordan's and White Sox third baseman Robin Ventura's number.
	``I stole the number,'' Ventura jokingly said.
	Can he dunk like Jordan?
	``From a trampoline maybe,'' Ventura said.
	White Sox Manager Jeff Torborg gave Jordan a few pointers in the
ballclub's indoor batting cage before the Bulls' $25 million man walked
onto the field, blowing bubblegum bubbles.
	``I told him exactly what Walter (Hrniak, hitting coach) wanted to
hear -- keep your head down,'' Torborg said.
	A pitcher in high school, Jordan also threw strikes in the White
Sox bullpen before his hitting display and impressed several of the
players with his side arm delivery.
	``When he threw sidearm, he threw real well,'' White Sox pitcher
Jack McDowell said. ``He threw five balls for balls, then started
throwing strikes. That's hard for us to do.''
	Jordan may be calling the Chicago Bears soon.
310.33Guess what his summer job wasRAVEN1::REILLYSNAKEMANMon Oct 08 1990 03:399
    I was in the 8th grade at Laney high school when Michael Jordan was a
    senior.  He used to hustle out-of-towners at a local park in           
    Wilmington NC. He would get them to bet on one-on-one games as in the  
    best 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 5 ,drop a few games, then school them.      
    It was truly classic.
    
    
                                                  Nate