Conference 7.286::sports_90

       Don't forget Steve, Magic missed a game about a month ago. Musta
    thrown off the teams 'chemistry' right Dan?
                                              Denny

    Go Sun's.
    It's close to the end for LA.
    
    
    Mr Mike

    To tell ya guys the truth, there is a Lakers conference.  I haven't
    been in it this year, but I was last year, and it had a good showing.
    The LAKERS aren't my favorite team, but I do like them better than
    a lot of teams, and I'm glad there isn't a Lakers note.  Why?  Because
    Laker Haters outnumber Laker likers about 50-1.  
    
    

    the Suns ain't won yet. We'll get 'em back. Don't undersell the MAgic
    man. 
    
    It ain't over.

    You'd think the Celtwit fans would have learned from that stooopid
    note in the CELTICS conference.
    
    It was started with the Fungus up 2-0 on NY, and the discussion
    was about their next opponent in the playoffs.            
    
    HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!
    
    Well, just like in 1970, the Lakers will sweep the Suns.
    
    But will Mikey be able to take the trauma ?
    
    Doc

    
    Couldn't have happened to a nicer team with all their bandwagon
    fans... the only question now is, where will the fans jump to 
    next...  DrM is running out of teams...

>    Well, just like in 1970, the Lakers will sweep the Suns.
    
    Cain't sweep them if they already lost 3 games.
    
    	--dan'l
    

>  <<< Note 237.5 by EARRTH::BROOKS "If I were you,I'd take precautions..." >>>
>    HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!
>    Well, just like in 1970, the Lakers will sweep the Suns.
>    But will Mikey be able to take the trauma ?
    
    Doc, the '70 Lakers was one of the best teams ever!  They also had an
    inside game that the '90 version doesn't have.  Chamberline, Baylor,
    and Jerry West, c'mon Doc and have a clue.  Phoenix was a 2 year old
    franchise back then with Hawkins their only star.  I'm sure the '90
    Lakers would be scared if the Heat had them down 3-1.
    
    Mike

    

    Let it be known that I didn't start this note.  This is an unauthorized
    version.  
    
    In my eyes, the Suns still have 1 more to win.  Then, and only then,
    will the series be over.
    
    Mike

    Ya'know, I take winning in good spirits and I take losing in good
    spirits (I get depressed over it but survive).  I expect a little give
    and take in the witty repartee that goes on in here and elsewhere.
    
    But I don't know why, with the Lakers currently slumping, that my
    loyalty as a fan has to be questioned.
    
    Dan

    Mike,
    
    Don't worry, the note was started by a Celtics fan.  The Celts have
    been playing golf for a week + now.
    
    JD

    Sure, I started this note.  Just returning some of the good natured
    ribbing we Celtics fans have had to endure over the past 2 years.
    
    Does Smiley's (tm) line of clothing include $29.95 bile colored crying 
    towels?  If not, he should.  He'd have quite a few sales in this
    notes conference alone.
    
    					Steve

Yeah, things sure look grim for the purple and gold right now.  But 
it sure seems like every time the Lakers have lost during the past 
10 years, the so-called experts have predicted that the loss meant
that their era had come to an end.  I wouldn't be so quick to write
this team off for next year or the year after.  Tell the truth --
how many of you ABTLers who are all set to write the epitaph on the
Lakers tombstone were making the same pronouncements after the '86
loss to Houston?

Laker_Ken

>> I wouldn't be so quick to write
>> this team off for next year or the year after.
    
    
    Don't write them off for THIS year. Phoenix needs to  win one more
    game. If Mikey Heiser can see it, then why can't the rest of you LAker
    fans. IT AIN"T OVER!!

    DO NOTE COUNT OUT THE LAKERS!!!!!!!
    
    Repeat the above sentence ten times - more if necessary.
    
    Pat Riley, as much as I can't stand his show-biz style, is an
    outstanding coach who finds ways to win.  Magic Johnson is a
    proven winner of long standing who also finds ways to win, even
    when his back is to the wall.
    
    Now, if wither of them can wake up Jimmy Clang and Byron Scott,
    the Lakers will still pull the series out.
    
    NAZZ

    Much as I would like to see Phoenix pull off the upset, I'm hardly 
    ready to write the Lakers off yet.
    
    If Phoenix doesn't get the job done in Game 5 or Game 6, a Game 7 win
    at the Forum is a tall order...
    
    
    py

Damn you, Nazz.  You started the Lakers' problems with that silly
sweep prediction you made over in the Celts' conference.  Now you're
trying to put the final nail in the coffin with this note of caution.
Just how much is Heiser paying you?  Whatever it is, I'll take up a 
collection in the Lakers conference and double it if you'll promise
to change your tone and start bad-mouthing the Lakers. :)

Laker_Ken

>    Don't write them off for THIS year. Phoenix needs to  win one more
>    game. If Mikey Heiser can see it, then why can't the rest of you LAker
>    fans. IT AIN"T OVER!!
    
    Game 5 should be very interesting.  LA, being the professionals that
    they are, is expected to bounce back and have a big game.  They looked
    awfully downtrodden after yesterday.  The whole world knows Magic will
    show up, AC will probably play well too.  Will the rest?  Meanwhile, the 
    young Suns are pumped, focused, and full of confidence now.  
    
    According to the interviews, the Suns have felt they could compete with
    LA along.  Now they've proven it!  A lot of credit has been given to 
    Kurt "Rambo" Rambis for keeping the youngsters focused and hungry, plus 
    he knows the opponents.
    
    Mike

    Keep up the good work NAZZ!!
    
    I've said it before, I'll say it again, "Suns won't win a Game 7 in the
    Forum!"  They MUST do it in 5 or 6.
    
    Mike

>         <<< Note 237.15 by LEAF::NAZZARO "We're the Dead Beat Club" >>>
>                        -< riley and Magic are winners >-
                                            *** Whinners ***
 >   DO NOTE COUNT OUT THE LAKERS!!!!!!!
    
  
Yes the Note count will go up before the series is over!!!!

>    < Note 237.11 by RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO "goodfood,gooddrink,broads,Bruins" >
>
>
>    Mike,
>    
>    Don't worry, the note was started by a Celtics fan.  The Celts have
>    been playing golf for a week + now.
>    
>    JD

    And so have the Rangers.
    
    Mark.

    Laker_Ken ... Nazz is just jealous of Pat because they use the same
    hair oil, but Riley gets good results, while Nazz winds up looking
    like Whitehair ... :-)

    re Mark,
    
    I know that.   They've been doing that for 50+ years.  I didn't,
    however start a "Capitals slide into oblivion..." note after they
    were down 3-0 to the Bruins.
    
    JD

personally I think that ACCaught should have a contest to determine what team
Doc will pick as his favorite team for the rest of the NBA playoffs.

"His" Rockets got toasted in the 1st round
"his" Lakers are now toast...


My guess is that the Bulls with "his" man Michael will be his next favorite team


Any other guesses out there ?


Metz

    
    re: -1
    
    Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Portland, Phoenix or San Antonio.
    
    Definitely one of those teams... my guess is he'll change his mind
    again after the NBA finals are over.

    The Suns did it!!!! What a game.  I am so sleepy this morning after
    staying up last night to watch the game, but it was worth seeing
    Magic whine and cry and finally lose.
    
    It was hard to see the Celtics eliminated from the playoffs, but
    this sure makes up for it.  This is the beginning of the end for
    the Zoners/Fakers/Jokers a.k.a LA Lakers.
    
    The Fall of The Magic Empire is near

Ah, the good Doctor is vaning like a compass in a roomful of magnets.

I believe his "Team de Jour(tm)" is Chicago, due to the way he signed
a recent reply somewhat like this:

		Doc Anti-Laker "AIR"....

So my guess would be Chicago....

'Saw

    >This is the beginning of the end for
    >the Zoners/Fakers/Jokers a.k.a LA Lakers.
     
    Seems to me I've heard this before.  Could it have been 1986?
    
    Dan

    Why are you guys so tired?  The game was over at 10pm!
    
    Mike

>Ah, the good Doctor is vaning like a compass in a roomful of magnets.

Never heard it put so weel Saw.....

Thanks...8^)

    
    RE:.22
    
    Crow in a lightly sauteed BarBQ sauce. DrM can even not gag on his
    own foot which is constantly in mouth.
    
    This Crow is for you,Doc !
    
    Edwin

    
    While I'm eating, I'll say grace :
    
    Dear Lord, please make the Suns fans answer one question while I
    eat this micro-crow ....
    
    
    How many championships have the Suns won !
    
    Thank you and amen .
    
    :-)
    
    DrM

>    How many championships have the Suns won !
    
    As many as Houston!  Ooops, sorry wrong team, right?  Wait a few weeks
    and then make your judgement.  They've already done more than most
    thought they would.   If they can beat LA, they should be able to beat
    anyone.  Lets see how focused they are now.
    
    BTW - Kevin Loughery(sp? ex-Atlanta/Chicago coach) was the only media
          person I know of that picked the Suns over LA from the start.

    The Suns have won as many championships as most teams in the NBA.

    RE: Ed the Vane
    
    I thing the Laker lost has put you in a state of total confusion.
    Look at any of the notes, intros, etc. I am a Celtics Fan to the
    end.
    
    I also applaud good team play. I even write a hats off to
    Mychal Thompson on instituting the "Big Man" camp which Kevin McHale
    continued at Minnesota and with the C's.
    
    DrM-the name must be because you are ALWAYS	in the dark.
    
    Edwin

    re < Note 237.33 by EARRTH::BROOKS "Never trust a Brooklyn Queen ..." >

    >    How many championships have the Suns won !
    
    >    Thank you and amen .
     
    I agree, Doc. And fans of the Celtics, Yankees and Canadians can
    proudly ax the same question.
    
    Rich
    

    I'll take my bird wif cactus sauce and a Scorpion Bowl to wash it down
    wif.
    
    Yo Mikey, how could you do dis, now I gotta get a new shirt made up.

Why does everytime someone confronts someone on a Laker/Celtic series
loss they reply with how many championships has your team won.  Ancient
history pal, that was then, this is now.  I am a true Celtic fan, but
just because the Lakers lost Im not going to throw a party.  Bottom
line the Celtics and Lakers are getting old.  They are starting to hit
or are at the twightlight of there careers.  The lakers still are no
where near the ages of some of the Celtics.  The Celtics will be
back as long as Red is not dead.
    
    
Greg                              

    Greg, to answer your question, it's a long-distance variation of
    an old game called "nut-busting".  You bust mine, I bust yours.
    
    The only question to it all is who will be first to bust someone's.
    After the first shot, it's "Fire For Effect" time.  :*)
    
    Lee

>>Bottom line the Celtics and Lakers are getting old.

Actually, the real bottom line is that alot of other teams are getting quite
good.  The move toward parity has been quite strong over the past 5 years and
the results are just now being seen.  Next year, any of 10 teams could
legitimately challenge for the championship given some minor adjustments in the
off season.  The Lakers would be near the bottom of that list and the Celtics
probably wouldn't make it.

I've found this year in the NBA one of the most enjoyable that I can remember. 
There have been some superb contests.

j.

    Jeff,
    
    You hit it on the head.  The NBA seems to be heading for a 'wild'
    decade.  In the 60's, it was Boston vs. LA, with a smattering of
    Philly.  In the 70's, it was a crap shoot, with Boston, La, the
    Knicks, Washington, Golden State, Seattle, Portland all winniing
    titles.  In the 80's, it was back to LA vs. Boston with a smattering
    of Philly early and Detriot late.  Now the 90's are coming in, and
    I envision a decade more in line with the 70's then the 60's or
    80's.
    
    A lot of teams are one player away.  For example, put a real scoring
    treat at forward on the knicks, a shooting guard on Utah, a good
    6th man on the Sixers, etc., and you have real contendahs.
    
    JD

 Yeah from a standpoint of parity you guys are right and there have been
 some spectacular contests but more enjoyable? Not for me the refs let too 
 much BS go on and protect the superstars to no end. I get sick sometimes
 when I see a rookie make a great play on a vet only to hear the whistle
 and then the commentator tell us how he has to pay his dues. The game
 has become more of defensive struggle, it's too bad that the better defense
 is a product of more teams playing somwe type of zone and the clutching and
 grapping that is allowed.

 traveling, palming moving picks all to help the spectacular move for the
 fans' enjoyment? Not mine.........

 mike

    I hate to say it, but I'm starting to agree with you Mike. I think
    the announcers had better develop the filberts to say "That call
    stunk !" Rather than, he's a rookie, he'll the call in a year. What
    makes the call any less worse in a year ?
    
    Example : Philly/Bulls, Game 5 ... JOrdan got a rebound, and Bob
    Thornton was really on him, and stayed tight as Jordan dribbled
    away from the basket. The ref called a foul. Fine, a good call.
    Well, Jordan felt like a primma-donna, and threw a nasty forearm
    at Thornton after the whistle. Who does the ref admonish ? Thornton.
    
    I wanted to gag ...

    Yeah, good point, Mike.  I absolutely HATE to see the travelling
    and palming that goes on.  These are BASIC requirements of the game,
    yet they are continually violated.  And, the clutching and grabbing
    doesn't add to the beauty of the game.
    
    When Michael puts on his moves, it should be his moves against the
    defenders moves, not some of the crap that is allowed.  Same thing
    underneath.  It's cheating, nothing less.  Because the refs allow
    it doesn't make it right.  
    
    It's always bothered me in sports, particularly at the pro level,
    that rules are on the books, but not enforced enough.  Either eliminate
    the rules, or enforce them, period.  After all, the pros are supposed
    to be the players who are at the pinnacle of the talent during that
    time period.  What kind of lesson does this impart on kids who are
    learning the game?  Cheating is okay as long as you don't get caught?
    While that may be acceptable in today's society, it's still wrong.

    Lee

I see the following move all the time and I'm wondering if it is legal or not..

Pat Ewing does it all the time as do a lot of forwards....

example...

Ewing gets the ball at the low post....turns, ducks down low and drives his 
shoulder into the defender who is standing there immobile....after bumping( his 
bump would put me in the 3rd row) he goes up for the shot....

Is it Legal to initiate contact like that or is it just another unwritten rule
in the NBA ?


Metz

Metz, that's the unwritten Moses Malone rule. ;^) It's on the book it
should be called but rarely if ever is. If it was Moses, Karl Malone
Pat Ewing, Bird and about 75% of the rest of the players in the league
would need a 10 foul limit to stay in the game.....

;^)

mike

    You got that right Hawk.  Except I don't call it the Moses rule.
     I call it teh Larry God Bird rule ;-)
    
    Another thing that kills me is traveling - but not the Jordan variety
    on the break, but the inside traveling.  For instance, in the
    Sixers-Bulls series, the announcers were gushing over Ed Nealy,
    but EVERYTIME he got the ball low he traveled - why?  Because he
    pivoted off BOTH feet.  Every basket he made he pivoted right foot
    first, then pivoted left foot, shuffling all the time.  
    
    JD

    
    Nealy got that move from Parish.

    >the announcers were gushing over Ed Nealy,
    >but EVERYTIME he got the ball low he traveled - why?  Because he
    >pivoted off BOTH feet.  Every basket he made he pivoted right foot
    >first, then pivoted left foot, shuffling all the time.  
     
    JD, the rule that states that the player is allowed to change pivot
    feet in the low post rule is known as the Kevin McHale Rule.
    
    Dan

>      Thank god the Denver Broncos are around to show these kids that
>    integrity in professional sports is indeed a straight and narrow path.
    
    
 hahahahahahahaha(tm) I just blew my Burger&Buds!!!  ;^)))))))))))))))    

    Magic and Bird are not dead yet, but the Magic and Bird "Era" is !!!
    
    			LONG LIVE THE KINGS !!!
    
    
    It was a great decade of basketball (80's),
    
    Marty

    From the West Coast rumor mill courtesy of Ted Greene:
    
    1.  Byron Scott is on the trading block.
    
    2.  Lakers are talking to Dallas regarding a deal involving Orlando
        Woolridge.
    
    no other details given.
    
    Mike

Thanks, Mike.  Keep those rumors coming.

Laker_Ken

    Anything come of that Scott and Green deal to NJ?  What did they want?
    The #1 I guess?  Were they throwing in their #1?

    Reg Note 60. Seems there was a offer of Green and Scott to NJ for their
    number 1 in the up comeing draft. Heard that NJ turned down the offer.
    There was no reason given.
    
    
    Mr Mike
    
    

    Why the HELL is Dallas talking to the Lakers for ?  What can Orlando
    provide them ?  the only reason he did so good in LA is because
    he was not considered a scoring threat therefore did not get defenced
    as closely as Magic, Worthy, or Scott.
    
    Orlando is not the missing part needed for the title.  What Dallas
    needs is McHale not Orlando. 

Perhaps Orlando can score better drugs for Tarpley?

    I am going to miss Pat Reily, Then again I am over it. 
    
    

    
    Riley:  good rep, knowledgeable, well-respected.
    
    Now if the Celtics could only land him, with a clause in his contract
    that he wash the vaseline out of his hair before moving to the east
    coast.
    
    Dickster
    

Nah, Dickster, he'd make the Celtics a proven winner again...probably
ruffle some feathers doing it, but I'd bet he could.

Instead we get Chris Ford, of the good ol boy network....  It's gonna
be a_interesting season.....

'Saw

    A coach can't make the tired old legs of Bird, Parish, McHale, DJ,
    and Paxson run any faster.  It's gonna be a while before this team
    gets back on top, no matter who the coach is.
    
    					Steve

    Is Magic Johnson's Napa Valley Charity Whine Festival (tm) 
    going to be televised?  

Yes, it's going to be televised in every civilized part of the country.
I believe Phoenix will show its regularly scheduled Bowling for Gila
Monsters.  :)

Laker_Ken

>                      -< You might be out of luck, Mike >-
    
    depends on your point of view ;-)  
    
    Mike

    
    From reports in the Detroit newspapers Magic Johnson is moving back
    to East Lansing.  He wants to establish residency and run for a
    position on the Michigan State University board.
    
    This has come under fire from a lot of people in the press that he
    is not qualified.  The press was wondering how he can fulfill his
    obligation to the university board during basketball season.
    
    The Gov. (who is a MSU alum) is fully behind his decision and is looking
    to capitalize on some photo opportunities.  By the way the Gov. is in a
    tight race for re-election.
    
    

    Too bad that Magic has to resort to riding on the popularity of his
    basketball career in starting on his post-basketball career.  Any other
    ordinary Joe wouldn't get past the door and his picture with the gov.
    
    Man, if that just doesn't make you hate him even more......  :-)
    
    Hawk

Magic is well on his way to his post-basketball career and has been for
quite awhile. He is completely set financially and has bought into a
number of businesses, including recently a very large deal with Pepsi.

However, his success may inspire just a much hatred, I guess.

TTom

    Just when we were starting to have fun, the Lakers get Sacramento as
    their next opponent ;-(
    
    All good things must come to an end.
    
    Mike

    The Lakers' 1-4 start is their worst since 1978!  Must be pure
    coincidence that 1978 was pre-Magic.  The road gets tougher:
    at Houston (tonight), at Dallas (tomorrow).  They should come back 2-5
    to face Golden St. on Sunday and will visit Denver on Monday.
    
    Mike

    Nice game from James Worthy (24 pts in 29 minutes) to lead the Lakers
    over the Rockets.  
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    Not so nice that he got arrested for soliciting, tho.
    
    Lee

>    Nice game from James Worthy (24 pts in 29 minutes) to lead the Lakers
>    over the Rockets.  

        He took 23 shots and only made 10.   Is that such a great game?
	Bird got roasted last year for that type of shooting performance.
	

    
    He could've scored more but he was too busy trying to score!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Steve 8^)

From: clarinews@clarinet.com (RICHARD LUNA, UPI Sports Writer)
Newsgroups: clari.sports.basketball
Subject: Worthy arrested for soliciting sex

	HOUSTON (UPI) -- Los Angeles Lakers All-Star forward and leading
scorer James Worthy was arrested Thursday on charges of solicitation of
prostitution, Houston police said.
	Worthy, in Houston with the Lakers to play the Rockets, allegedly
called an escort service at about 3:45 p.m. Thursday from his hotel
room. The escort service, however, was linked to the Houston Police
Department.
	Worthy posted bond and was released, but did not arrive at The Summit
in time to start against the Rockets. Sam Perkins started in place of
Worthy at forward.
	Worthy arrived at The Summit early in the second quarter under police
escort. A Rockets spokeman ordered police to remove all media from the
area.
	Worthy changed into his uniform and was greeted by loud cheers when
he entered the arena. He then entered the game with 9:41 left in the
first half and again was greeted by cheers.
	Worthy did not leave the game after that and finished with 24 points.
He was instrumental in Los Angeles pulling out a 108-103 overtime win
over the Rockets.
	``This is a tough night,'' Worthy said after the game. ``I didn't
want to run away from the situation. Other than the death of a close
friend, this is the toughest situation I've had to play in. I tried to
do the best I could. I knew I had to focus.''
	Worthy would not talk about his arrest.
	Los Angeles Coach Mike Dunleavy said Worthy came to the bench and
said, ``I'm ready to play, Coach.''
	``I figured he was better off on the floor than on the bench,''
Dunleavy said. ``He wanted to (play) and I think that says a lot about
him.''
	Worthy allegedly called the escort service requested two women, and
two female undercover officers went to the hotel where Worthy allegedly
asked them to participate in sexual acts, said police spokesman Dan
Turner.
	``He has shown a lot of remorse,'' Turner said after Worthy had been
arrested.
	Worthy was charged with solicitation of prostitution, a Class B
misdemeanor. If convicted, Worthy would face fines up to $1,000 and/or
six months in jail.
	``James Worthy has been a model citizen with the Los Angeles Lakers
throughout his career and until I talk to him I cannot make much of a
comment,'' Dunleavy said before the game. ``Until then James Worthy has
been a class act and we will stand behind him. My main concern for is
for James Worthy and his mental state.''
	At halftime, Lakers spokesman John Black said, ``We support James
Worthy 100 percent. He has represented the Lakers organization well. I
know I speak for all Lakers management.''
	Worthy, who had started all five previous Lakers games this season,
was leading the team in scoring, averaging 26.6 points a game.

    What kills me is this "he's shown a lot of remorse".  Heck, I'd show a
    lot of remorse after I'd been caught/busted too.  The trick is, to
    think about all this remorse before you do anything you might have to
    show a lot of remorse for later......
    
    Hawk

    He always was a lousy passer!

    Mrs. Worthy wired a gift to James in his Dallas hotel room today.  It
    was a doll dressed as a Nun, and the note inside said,
    
    "Hope you like it, because this is what you'll be getting from now on!"
    
    Mike

From: clarinews@clarinet.com (RICHARD LUNA, UPI Sports Writer)
Newsgroups: clari.sports.basketball
Subject: Worthy faces arraignment on prostitution charge

	HOUSTON (UPI) -- James Worthy, the Los Angeles Lakers' All-Star
forward, is to be arraigned Tuesday on charges of soliciting sex from
two female undercover police officers.
	Worthy, 29, will be arraigned before Harris County Court-at-Law Judge
Jimmy Duncan on two charges of solicitation of prostitution. If
convicted of the Class B misdemeanor, Worthy could face fines up to $1,
000 and/or six months in jail on each charge.
	Worthy, the Lakers' leading scorer, was arrested Thursday afternoon
after he allegedly called an escort service from his hotel room and
requested two women. Police said phone calls to the escort service were
being monitored by the vice squad.
	Two female undercover officers went to the hotel where Worthy
allegedly offered to pay both of them for sex, said police spokesman Dan
Turner.
	The charges state that Worthy did ``in a public place knowingly
solicit (the undercover officers) to engage with the defendant in sexual
conduct, namely, deviant sexual intercourse, for hire.''
	Turner would not elaborate on any details of the undercover operation
and had ``no idea'' how much money Worthy allegedly offered the two
officers.
	Worthy, a native of Gastonia, N.C., posted $1,000 bond and was
released, but did not arrive at The Summit in time to start against the
Rockets. The club's leading scorer entered the game with 9:41 left in
the first half and played the remainder of the contest, finishing with
24 points and helping the Lakers to a 108-103 overtime victory.
	``I never thought of not playing,'' Worthy said after the game. ``The
best place for me was out on the court, but it was tough. It wasn't a
pretty situation.
	``This is a tough night. I didn't want to run away from the
situation. Other than the death of a close friend, this is the toughest
situation I've had to play in. I tried to do the best I could. I knew I
had to focus.''
	The arrest stunned the Lakers coaches and players. Coach Mike
Dunleavy described Worthy, the father of an 8-month-old daughter and the
son of a minister, as a ``model person.''
	``We do not know what happened,'' Dunleavy said. ``What we do know,
though, is that James has always been a model person and someone who has
brought great pride to the Lakers in everything he has done.
	``Whatever the case is, James has been a class act and his teammates
and I will stand behind him.''
	Teammate Mychal Thompson said he was ``very surprised. I hope it was
a misunderstanding.''
	Worthy has been active in various causes. He taped a television
commercial urging people to abstain from driving drunk. His wife,
Angela, was one of the songwriters on the Lakers' ``Just Say No'' anti-
drug rap song, which was recorded and put on video in 1987.
	During college at North Carolina, he spent his summer breaks working
with the aged and mentally retarded.
	On the court, the seven-time All-Star has been instrumental in the
Lakers winning three league championships since he was the first pick in
the 1982 draft. He was the Most Valuable Player of the 1988 NBA Finals.
	Dunleavy said Worthy came to the bench after arriving at The Summit
and said, ``I'm ready to play, coach.''
	``I figured he was better off on the floor than on the bench,''
Dunleavy said. ``He wanted to (play) and I think that says a lot about
him.''
	Worthy, who had started all five previous games this season, is
averaging 26.6 points a game.

    Mike, I know you like gloating over Laker misfortunes, but did you
    really have to post the same note twice ???
    
    The person I really feel for is Mrs Worthy - she has to be humilated.
    I'd want to hang him if I was her ...

    Re: -1
    
    Sorry for deleting the dates of the postings.  They're not the same
    articles.
    
    Mike

    Hey Dock, Mike's trashing of the Lakers doesn't even come close to all
    those Gooney Bird, brokenrecord.com notes of yours in the past......
    
    Just a friendly reminder!  :-)
    
    Hawk

    This gives new meaning to the phrase "Worthy is the Laker's leading
    scorer".  Two women for lunch, what kind of diet is that ?
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.

Maybe he had advanced copies of USA Today... 

      Sport page of USA TODAY 11-20-90
        
     SEX IS OK: A little pregame workout before the big
     game can help an athlete, provided he or she doesn't
     overdo it, says Susan Butt, a University of British
     Columbia psychology professor. Butt, Canada's No.1 
     female tennis player in the 60's, says sex is a form
     of exercise and "depending on the athlete's personality
     and physical makeup, sex within reason might enhance
     performance."  

    

    Worthy has pleaded not guilty, yet has told the press that he is very
    sorry for what he has done.  Figure that one out.
    
    Sex and sports:  I recall an article that looked into this a bit.  It
    was pointed out that the Minn. Vikings players were kept away from
    their wives the night before the Super Bowl.  As everyone knows, they
    were 0-4.

Mac, if he pleaded quilty it would all be over and done with. By not pleading
guilty he probably has a case he can win due to entrapment tatics uses by the
police...

mike

    The National reported today that Worthy was linked (kindasorta) to an
    escort service in Portland last year.
    
    I guess those lumberjacks have something besides sheep and grizzlies to
    keep them company.
    
    Doc

    Lumberjacks?  What is that supposed to mean?  Have you ever even
    been to Portland?
         I heard that story too.  It was on the local news here last
    night.  They said he called a local escort service from his room
    at the Mariot (yes we have a Mariot in Portland ;-) ) on Feb. 6th
    last year.  That was when the Lakers were in town to play the Blazers.
    Looks like James has a different way than most for getting "up"
    for games!
    
    Glen.

    
    
    	"Legally", Worthy might be found not guilty because of entrapment,
    but IMO the damage has been done.  In the minds of many, no matter
    if he was entrapped or not, he still called the escort service and
    offered money for sexual services.  
    
    	The means by which they "caught" him might be in question, but
    Worthy aint denying that he called and offered to pay.  
    
    	So, although he will be found innocent because of entrapment,
    he will still be seen as morally guilty by a vast amount of the
    public.  The damage done to one's image and credibility is awfully
    hard to reverse in these situations.
    
    							bill..g.
    

    re -3
    
    Doc, be careful, you got all the tree-huggers in Oregon all urinated
    off by saying there's nothing but lumberjacks there.  Remember there
    are also lumberjanes.  Valuing diff. kind of stuff that you should be
    aware of.
    
    Bruce

    re .98
    
    Please put may " :-)"s on note .97
    
    re .100
    
    Too funny Bruce ... if you'd like a grizzly bear-alternative joke, send
    me mail offline ....

    Thanks to back-to-back games with Denver, LA is now at .500!
    
    Mike

And thanks to last night's 97-80 thrashing of the Spurs, they are
now 7-5, and just a half-game behind Phoenix.  See ya Saturday
night, Sundudes.

Laker_Ken

    HA HA HA

    re: -1
    Ha Ha Ha yourself!  I too think that the Lakers will beat Phoenix
    Saturday!  I think Phoenix will have a let-down after the game with
    the Blazers.
    
    Glen.

    	
    	.104 sure sounds like nervous laughter to me.  :-)
    
    						 glen j.
    

    Hey GL, how ya doin'?  Been to the Port Authority lately?  :-)
    
    Hawk

    Re: Phoenix let down
    
    Well they beat Seattle last night by 18 points.
    
    Mike

They musta been looking ahead to the Lakers ;-)

TTom

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MTHOOD::JOYNERGL "The Portland Kid"                   6 lines  29-NOV-1990 18:01
                                -< Go Lakers! >-
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>    re: -1
>    Ha Ha Ha yourself!  I too think that the Lakers will beat Phoenix
>    Saturday!  I think Phoenix will have a let-down after the game with
>    the Blazers.
    
>    Glen.
    
    Is this an indication of how far the Lakers have fallen?  Do the fans
    have to hope that their opponents have a let down for them to win.
    
    Sad days for Lakers fans, indeed.
    
    Bruce

    re: .110/Bruce                                           
    
    	Far be it from me to speak for him, but I believe Mr. Glen Joyner
    is a Blazers fan, not a LAKER fan.
    
    	From the looks of it, the LAKERS are finally adjusting to Dunleavy's 
    system and taking care of business.  Either that or Dunleavy has 
    taken heed from the faithful and rid himself of that Eastern Conf. 
    brute-ball mentality. :-)
                                                               
    	I anticipate a good game from both teams, with a score similiar
    to the 112-111(something like that) clash earlier in LA.  
    
    
    						 glen j.

Bad news for all you Laker-haters:  They're baaaaaaaaacccccckkkkkk!
Magic had another triple-double and Byron Scott poured in 32 points
on 13 for 15 shooting as the Lakers thrashed the sons in Phoenix,
108-98, Saturday night.

Laker_Ken

    Yo Mikey, how'd the Suns do this weekend? I think the Suns got schooled 
    bigtime. 

    
    	Nah, that couldn't have been Phoenix playing against the LAKERS	
    Debil.  Everyone knows that LA can't beat a good team on the road.
    
    	Then again, maybe it was Phoenix! :-)
    
    						 glen j.
    

    Yo Mike "Chick Hearn" Childs, yer right, everyone does get lucky, and
    when the Suns beat L.A. by 1, that was lucky for the Suns. 

>    Yo Mike "Chick Hearn" Childs, yer right, everyone does get lucky, and
>    when the Suns beat L.A. by 1, that was lucky for the Suns. 
    
    The Suns were really lucky that Jimmy Clang can't shoot free throws
    under pressure!
    
    Mike

>   The Suns were really lucky that Jimmy Clang can't shoot free throws
>   under pressure!
    
    	Maybe that's cause he needs an escort! :-)
    
    						 glen j.

 Wow there Jess, that's hitting below the belt. I'm nowhere near as bias
 as Chick Hearns....I much more like Johnny Most. A real objective analyist..

 mike

 >Wow there Jess, that's hitting below the belt. I'm nowhere near as bias
 >as Chick Hearns....I much more like Johnny Most. A real objective analyist..
    
    Good one...|^)
    
    
    So did anyone see the hurt'in L.A. put on Detriot (tm)? A_awesome win.

   <<< Note 237.121 by CNTROL::CHILDS "U can be happy, if U have mind too" >>>


 Unfortunately I fell asleep in the second quarter what was the final? Did
 Worthy continue to abuse Rodman all night long? James's quickness allowed
 him to neutralize alot of the clutching and grapping that Rodman gets away
 with.

 Yes Walt, I know many many others besides Dennis clutch and grap on defense
 as well. Except of course the Celtics who play it straight by the books...

 ;^)

 mike

The final was 114-90.  Worthy finished with 23 points.  Detroit
didn't look right last night.  Their guards all had bad nights,
Rodman seemed invisible, and their defense never clamped down.
Magic abused Little Joe all night long in the low post.

Typical Piston goonery towards the end though.  Some things you 
can always count on.

Laker_Ken

 >Unfortunately I fell asleep in the second quarter what was the final? Did
 >Worthy continue to abuse Rodman all night long? James's quickness allowed
 >him to neutralize alot of the clutching and grapping that Rodman gets away
 >with.
    
    I taped it for you Mike, figuring you'd fall asleep but wanted to see
    the whole thing.  It got ugly near the end as the Lakers opened a 30+
    point lead and Laimbeer and Aguirre both required T's for standard
    Piston play.  I think that's three incidents in three games for the
    Good (but misunderstood) Boys from Detroit.
    
    Worthy got off on Rodman early and often, but most of the second and
    third quarters it was mostly Magic posting up and making things happen. 
    It's been a long time since Rodman has gotten the better part of Worthy
    in that matchup.  I think James has successfully adjusted to the
    clutch, grab and snap the neck like you got hit by a brontosaurus tail
    whip that Rodman has down.  They just don't play each other enough to
    show it in full, but in my memory Worthy has consistently gotten the
    better of the matchup since the middle of the '88 finals.
    
    Nothing's settled yet between the two teams, and the next one should be
    February in Detroit.  Last year, the Lakers lost the home game in
    December in OT (they should've won in regulation) and whipped the
    Pistons at the Palace later on.
    
    Dan

    Rodman isn't the same since his ankle is worse than anyone is admitting
    to.  I turned it off during the 3rd quarter after flipping back and
    forth between that, Bill & Ted on Showtime, and Whitney Houston on
    Arsenio and listening to the Sox justifying picking up Matt Young.
    They looked flat.  Not much else to say.  The Lakers outplayed them.
    
    -Walt

    What color is the sky in Dan's world?

 Walt, I agree with you I think Dennis should consider surgery even if it
 means he's out for the year. It might add a few years on to the end of
 his career if he takes care of it now...

 Mike do really have to ask??

 ;^)

    Re: The Heiser Technique: the big lie
    
    Okay Dano, there are 128 replies in here and only 4 (3 wasted on
    supporting your loyalty, 1 on the Lakers, none for eating your crow and
    congratulating Phoenix) are yours.  There's a big gap in here from you 
    while the Lakers were being totally humiliated by me and others.
    
    In contrast, even a wagon jumper like Doc has 7 (only 2 deal with
    Phoenix, one is even a backhanded compliment, the rest are avoidance) 
    replies in here!  You should be ashamed!
    
    Mike

    >Okay Dano, there are 128 replies in here and only 4 ... are yours.
    
    So?  This isn't the only note where the Lakers are discussed nor am I
    obligated to respond to every stupid note I see.  My continued
    commitment to the Lakers is just as self-evident as was your recent
    wagon jumping from ardent Suns supporter to a renewal of your Celtics
    fanhood.
    
    Dan
    

>              -< Sadly, some people regard quantity over quality >-
    
    good one, I'm rolling ;-)

>    So?  This isn't the only note where the Lakers are discussed nor am I
    
    Nothing in 109.* either.

    re .130
    
    Score one for Dan ....
    
    Besides Mike, the name of this topic is the "Lakers Going-Away" note.
    
    Hell, I don't expect the Lakers to go anywhere, except back to the
    Finals to kick some butt.
    
    Why reply to irrelevant topics right ?

>    Why reply to irrelevant topics right ?
    
    So according to Dr. M Logic, you must be a Cleveland Browns fan.  After
    all, you spend 50% of your time in that topic.
    
>    Hell, I don't expect the Lakers to go anywhere, except back to the
>    Finals to kick some butt.
    
    The shallowness of your NBA knowledge has already been revealed. 
    Comments like the above only confirm it.
    
    Mike