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Title:OURGNG::SPORTS - Digital's daily tabloid
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Created:Thu Dec 14 1989
Last Modified:Fri Dec 17 1993
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224.0. "The *FOURTH* Annual Kiner's Korner Note" by SHALOT::HUNT (A single ping please, Vasily.) Thu Apr 26 1990 18:53

                 * * *   A n n o u n c i n g   * * *
    
    What I'm sure you've all been waiting for.   It's that perennial
    favorite, the *FOURTH* Annual Kiner's Korner Note.   This note is
    dedicated to that Master Of Malaprops, the one, the only Ralph
    Kiner, play-by-play announcer for the New York Mets.
    
    A little background ...
    
    One of my favorite baseball writers is Jayson Stark of "The
    Philadelphia Inquirer".  Every Tuesday during baseball season,
    Stark publishes a full-page article in the sports section entitled
    "Week In Review".   He almost always focuses on the truly amazing
    and bizarre things that go on during an otherwise routine week of
    major league baseball.
    
    And one of his weekly spotlights is on on our buddy Ralph Kiner. 
    Fans from around Philly contact Stark with Kiner's latest
    on-the-air gems  and he prints the best of them.   Things like ...
    
    Ralph: "All of Bedrosian's saves have come in relief appearances."
    
    I fulfilled a dream of mine last summer when Stark printed one
    that I called in to him.  Ralph mentioned that the slimmer and
    trimmer Tommy Lasorda was "just a shodow of himself."
    
    Anyway, I thought that this year might be a problem.  You see,
    I've moved to Charlotte as many of you might know and I no longer
    get The Inky.  But not to worry ...  My father, the only man I
    know truly worthy of the term "hero", is just as big a Stark fan
    as I am and he's offered to clip the articles and send them on
    down Tobacco Road to me.
    
    So, fear not, Kiner fans.  There's an envelope on its way as we
    speak with the first two weeks worth of Stark articles and his
    first 1990 Kinerisms.  As soon as I get 'em, I'll post 'em here.
    
    I cain't wait ...
    
    Bob Hunt
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224.1QUASER::JOHNSTONWonFarfugIsKnotEnuf! WhoIsTooBlam?!Thu Apr 26 1990 19:28151
   	When I saw this note, I remembered that last year I had extracted
   a note from the old Kiner's Korner that someone (I think it might have
   been Jeff Needle) had put in. They were similar to Kinerisms, but from
   a different guy. I remembered that some of them had me roaring, so I
   thought I'd stick `em in again.
   

                      ENGLISH DOESN'T GET TO FIRST BASE.

        by Bill Doyle, of the Worcester Telegram & Gazette, Thursday,
          May 25, 1989.  (Reprinted, of course, without permission)

   He's Baseball's Mr. Malaprop.  He misuses more words than Ralph Kiner,
   Ned Martin, Bob Montgomery, and Phil Rizzuto put together, if that's
   possible. 

   He's Jerry Coleman, television and radio broadcaster for the San Diego 
   Padres.  Not since Casey Stengel has the game heard anything quite like 
   him.

   Sit back and enjoy a chuckle or two at some of the crazy things 
   Coleman has said on the air.  This list was compiled by a longtime 
   Padres' fan.

   Rich Folkers is throwing up in the bullpen.

   Johnny Grubb slides into second with a stand-up double.

   If ever a grounder had "F" written on it, that grounder did.

   It's off the leg and into left field of Doug Rader.

   Thomas is racing for it, but McCovey is there and can't get his glove
   to it.  That play shows the inexperience, not on Thomas'  part, but on
   the part of Willie McC... well,not on McCovey's part either.

   Grubb goes back, back... he's under the warning track, and he makes the
   play.

   They throw Winfield out at second, but he's safe.

   The first pitch to Tucker Ashford is grounded into left field.  No,
   wait a minute.  It's ball one, low & outside.

   Jesus Alou is in the ondeck circus.

   Mike Caldwell, the Padres right-handed southpaw, will pitch for San
   Diego tonight.

   The ex-left-hander Dave Roberts will be going for Houston tonight.

   You can't argue with umpires like Leo Durocher.

   Well, it looks like the all-star balloting is about over, especially 
   in the National and American leagues.

   The Cards lead the Dodgers, 4-2, after one inning and that one hasn't 
   even started.

   The final score after eight innings is Giants 3, Padres 2.

   There is a paid crowd of 11,567 here to see the Pirates & the Bucs.

   The Padres, after winning the 1st game of the doubleheader, are ahead 
   here in the top of the fifth, 4-0, and are hoping for a split.

   At the end of 6 innings of play, it's Montreal 5, the Expos 3.

   Tony Taylor was one of the 1st acquisitions that the Phillies made 
   when they reconstructed their team.  They acquired him from 
   Philadelphia.

   I sure hope you're staying alive for the upcoming Dodger series.

   National League umpires wear inside check protesters.

   The Phillies beat the Cubs today in a doubleheader.  That puts another 
   keg in the Cubs' coffin.

   Reggie Smith of the Dodgers and Garry Matthews of the homers hit 
   Braves in that game.

   Gaylord Perry and Willie McCovey should know each other like a book.  
   They've been ex-teammates for years now.

   Sanguillen is totally unpredictable to pitch to because he is so 
   unpredictable.

   Ron Guidry is not very big, maybe 140 pounds, but he has an arm like a 
   lion.

   The way he's swinging the bat, he won't get a hit until the 20th 
   century.

   For San Francisco, Marc Hill hit a home run and Bill Madlock hit a 
   couple of pears.

   There's 2 heads to every coin.  

   Stay tuned for today's spring training opener against the Angels.  
   This has been the Padres' post-game show.

   Billy Almon has all of his in-laws and out-laws here this afternoon.

   On the mound is Randy Jones, the left-hander with the Karl Marx 
   hairdo.

   If Rose's streak was still intact, with that single to left, the fans 
   would be throwing babies out of the upper deck.

   That's the 4th extra-base hit for the Padres - 2 doubles & a triple.

   Montreal leads Atlanta by three, 5-1.

   Last night's homer was Willie Stargell's 399th career home run, 
   leaving him one shy of 500.  

   Larry Moffet is 6-3, 190.  Last year he was 6-6.

   That rbi gives Winfield 49, just one short of the century mark.

   That's Hendrick's 19th home run, one more and he hits double figures.

   Hector Torrez, how can you communicate with Enzo Hernandez when he 
   speaks Spanish and you speak Mexican?

   From the way Denny's shaking his head, he's either got an injured 
   shoulder or a gnat is in his eye.

   Ozzie makes a leaping diving stop, shovels to Fernando and everybody 
   drops everything.

   There is someone warming up in the Giants' bullpen, but he's obscured 
   by his number.

   Turner pulls into second with a sub-blown double.

   Edwards missed getting Stearns at 3rd base by an eyeball.

   All the Padres need is a fly ball in the air.

   He hits a looping line drive.

   Davis fouls out to 3rd in fair territory.

   There's a shot up the alley.  Oh, it's just foul.

   The new Haitian baseball can't weigh more than four ounces or less 
   than five.

   Houston has its largest crowd of the night here this evening.
224.3Great power hitterSHALOT::HUNTA single ping please, Vasily.Fri Apr 27 1990 15:366
    Ralph was a monster home run hitter for the Pirates.   I can
    recall many comparisons to Kiner's dinger records as Mike Schmidt
    piled them up.
    
    Bob Hunt
                                                                 
224.4Only HR leader teammates ever?WNDMLL::SCHNEIDEROh+Fri Apr 27 1990 18:3021
    >Did you know that Ralph hit HRs at a faster per AB clip than any
    >other player except Babe?   This could be wrong, but I believe
    >Ruth hit one dinger every 9.7 ABs or whatever and that Ralph did
    >so about once per 10.2 or so. 
    
    I think Babe's numbers were about 12.8, and Frank was around 15.x.
    Kingman might have snuck in there ahead of him.  While Babe had the
    short porch in rightfield of Yankee Stadium to take advantage of,
    Kiner in Forbes Field was positively shameful.  Not only was it a short
    way to the fence, but the Pirates actually built more seats in front to
    make it even shorter for the time Kiner was there.  When he left, they
    removed the seats.
    
    >Phil [Rizzuto]'s a_awful announcer and a_unfortunate person, now
    >ain't he? 
    
    No.  He's a funny announcer and a wonderful person, and should be in
    the Hall of Fame.
    
    Dan
    
224.5The first two, as promised ...SHALOT::HUNTA single ping please, Vasily.Fri Apr 27 1990 23:5061
    And just what did we have waiting for us in our mailbox this fine
    afternoon ???
    
    A letter from home.  Aww, how nice.  And what was inside ???  A
    couple of diaper coupons, a little advice from mom to keep my gums
    clean, and two, count 'em, two eagerly anticipated newspaper
    clippings.
    
    And so, my friends, here's to the season.  I bring you the first
    two of hopefully many "Kinerisms Of The Week".
                                                     
    
    
                       "Kinerism Of The Week"
    
            by Jayson Stark, "The Philadelphia Inquirer"
    
               17-Apr-1990, reprinted with permission
    
    Well, if Week In Review is back, you know who else is back.  It's
    the greatest baseball broadcaster of our time, of course -- Ralph
    Kiner.
    
    Our season-opening Kinerism was overheard by Kiner fan Michael L.
    Kahn of Meadowbrook at a Mets-Dodgers spring training game.
    
    "Juan Samuel is having a great spring," Kiner told him.  "At least
    in this game."
    
    Stay tuned for more wonderous Kinerisms in the days and weeks
    ahead.  We can hardly wait.
    
    
    
                       "Kinerism Of The Week"
    
            by Jayson Stark, "The Philadelphia Inquirer"
    
               24-Apr-1990, reprinted with permission
    
    This week's all-time classic from Week In Review's No. 1
    broadcasting hero, Ralph Kiner, was overheard by Kiner fans Pat
    Hannigan of Gibbsboro, N.J., Edward Garrigan-Nass of Philadelphia
    and Pat McCann of West Chester.
    
    It came tumbling out as last Thursday's Mets-Cubs game reeled past
    midnight and into the early-morning hours.  The cameras picked up
    a shot of Mets catcher Mackey Sasser in the dugout.  He had
    just returned from his father's funeral and had arrived at the
    stadium in the 11th inning offering to pinch-hit.
    
    Our man Ralph was attempting to relate this news.   But,
    shockingly, it came out slightly twisted.
    
    "If Mackey Sasser plays tonight," he said, "he will play in a game
    tonight that he arrived for tomorrow."
    
    And unless you were born yesterday, you may even understand that.
    
    
    Bob Hunt
224.6Some more treats ...SHALOT::HUNTA single ping please, Vasily.Sat Apr 28 1990 00:31125
    And here are two more gems from Stark's first two articles. 
    Neither of these have anything to do with Ralph Kiner but they are
    hilarious, nonetheless.
    
    From 17-Apr-1990 ...
    
                       "Astronaut Of The Week"
    
    As best we can tell, there is some kind of city ordinance up there
    in the cosmopolitan town of Montreal that goes something like this:
    
    "Local baseball team is hereby required to carry at least one
    pitcher who can be considered legally insane."
    
    For three years, the Expos had no trouble living with this unique
    piece of legislation.  That's because they had certifiable
    loony tune Pascual Perez on board.
    
    But then Perez bailed out and signed with the Yankees over the
    winter.  Panic reigned in the Expos' offices.   And then they
    remembered:  Oil Can Boyd was out there on the streets looking for
    work.
    
    So they signed him right up.  And after his Expos debut Wednesday,
    they're grateful they did.
    
    One reason was that he pitched great.  He beat the Cardinals to
    earn his team's first win of the season.  He went six innings.  He
    gave up only four hits. But that's not the significant stuff.
    
    His most significant feat was that he established early on that
    he's in a universe all his own -- not that there was ever any
    doubt.  And he did that with such uniquely Can-esque quotations as
    this one:
    
    "The most important thing for me," he said, "is to go out there
    and *harmonate*."
    
    Now it occurred to us that *harmonate* - while it is indeed a
    spectacular word -- is tough enough to translate into English. 
    But some of these Montreal writers faced an even bigger challenge 
    They had to try and translate it into French.
    
    So we asked Serge Touchette of the "Journal de Montreal" how he
    translated it in his paper.  Touchette said this word caused him
    big problems.  It caused him such big problems, in fact, that he
    couldn't even figure out a way to use it.
    
    "The other French writers -- they didn't use it, either,"
    Touchette said.   "We didn't know what to do with it."
    
    Well, we asked, if he *had* translated it, how would he have done
    it.
    
    "That's a good question," Touchette said.  "What's the closest
    English word to 'harmonate'?  I don't even know what it would be."
    
    Neither do we, for that matter.  Just be glad the Can is a
    pitcher, not our ambassador to the United Nations.
    
                                 ***
    
    And from the 24-Apr-1990 article ...
    
                        "Excuse Of The Week"
    
    You've heard of the hidden-ball trick, but how about the
    hidden-scoreboard trick?  San Diego's Joe Carter called on that
    one last Tuesday.  He came up in the sixth inning in Cincinnati
    with the bases loaded and two out, and flied out to end the
    inning.  But afterward, he said he actually had been trying to hit
    a fly ball because he had thought there was only one out.   So why
    hadn't he checked the scoreboard first?   Couldn't find it.  "In
    the American League," he said, "I knew where all the scoreboards
    were."  Possibly the greatest excuse of all ti
    
                                 ***
    
    And one last one in honor of the bodacious crew of OURGNG::SPORTS
    noters who witnessed the Patriots Day Massacre ...
    
                       "Marathon Of The Week"
    
    You road-runners probably thought the big battle at the Boston
    Marathon last week was between Gelindo Bordin and Juma Ikangaa. 
    Not really.
    
    The big battle was a test of which would happen faster -- Bordin
    running 26 miles or the Boston Red Sox pitching staff getting 27
    outs.
    
    And it turned out to be no contest.  Bordin's time: 2:08.  Time of
    game at Fenway Park that day: 3:14.  And what a time it was.
    
    The Red Sox lost a heartbreaker to the Brewers, 18-0, that day. 
    It was the worst shutout loss by the Red Sox in 35 years.  It
    marked the first time an American League team had lost a game by
    18 runs in 10 years (when -- yep -- the Red Sox lost one, 20-2, to
    the Angels).  And it was a game that had some very strange aspects
    to it.
    
    Such as the Brewers scoring 18 runs without either hitting a home
    run or even hitting a ball off The Wall.  Such as the Brewers
    scoring more runs in one game than they'd scored all season before
    that (16).  Such as the Brewers tying a team record with nine
    doubles - but having only four players split up the nine doubles.
    
    When the day began, their team batting average was .258.  When it
    ended, they were up to .303.
    
    But more remarkable than any of that is the fact that the Red Sox
    started the game at 11 a.m. so they could end it in time for
    people to watch the finish of the Boston Marathon -- and they
    still didn't make it.  Bordin was through 12 minutes before they
    were.
    
    "It's amazing to me," said Brewers manager Tom Trebelhorn, "that a
    guy can run 26 miles faster than we can play a baseball game."
    
    Well, if it's any consolation, at least they could play faster
    than a *woman* could run 26 miles.  They nipped the winner of the
    women's race, Rosa Mota, by five minutes.
    
                                 ***
    Bob Hunt
224.7BOSOX::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Tue May 01 1990 08:5310
       
        Just got to read these, and I'm still laughing. 
    
    I don't which is funnier, The Can and his "harmonate", or The Schneid's
    comment on how Rizzuto should be in the HOF!  :*)

    Is that the announcer's HOF Dan?  
    
    Lee
224.87983::RIEUStanley, won't you please come home!Tue May 01 1990 10:222
       It's obviously the Shylock HOF lEe.
                                         Denny  
224.9I never saw Rizzuto play, but...STAR::YANKOWSKASNow is the month of Maying...Tue May 01 1990 10:286
    Frankly I don't care for Rizzuto as announcer, but you have to wonder
    if the HOF argument has some merit when a Ted Williams storms out of a
    Veterans Committee meeting because of their failure to elect Rizzuto.
    
    
    py
224.10BOSOX::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Fri May 04 1990 14:005
    Well, Paul, if Teddy Ballgame thinks he should be elected, that's
    his business.  And, since he's far more knowledgable than I about
    that era, I'll defer to him.
    
    Lee
224.11BOSOX::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Fri May 04 1990 14:0617
    Not a Kinerism, but a Canism.
    
    Oil Can Boyd was being interviewed, and make some comment whereby
    he "just wanted to go out to the mound and harmonate."
    
    Now, this really threw the French writers for a loss.  They couldn't
    figure out what he said, or what it meant.  Since no American writers
    could satisfactorily explain it, cause THEY didn't know what he
    said, this portion of the interview was left out of the reports.
    
    I sure do wish someone would come up with a special show on NESN,
    or ESPN, where they would just have a roundtable discussion between
    Yogi, Mickey Rivers, Oil Can, and Kiner.  The ideal moderator would
    have been Casey hisself, or Ole Diz.  But we could settle for a
    typed report from the Dinz.  :*)
    
    Lee
224.12Quelle ???SHALOT::HUNTA single ping please, Vasily.Fri May 04 1990 14:1414
    Lee,
    
    See .6 for Jayson Stark's treatment of the Can's "harmonate"
    quote.
    
    I can just see the French sportswriters struggling with that one.
    
    Qu'est-ce que c'est que ca ???  Je ne sais quoi.  Excusez-moi,
    s'il vous plait, Monsieur Can, mais quelle est ce bon mot
    "harmonate" ???
     
    Too funny.
    
    Bob Hunt
224.13A Nightmare on Sport Channel!CAM::WAYThere's no winners...only survivorsFri May 04 1990 16:4234
HI EVERYWON TONITE WE ARE HAVING THE FIRST OF A WEAKLY SEREES
THE RALPH CASO SPROTS ROUNDTABEL TO DISCUS SPORT AND OUR FIRST
GUEST IS OYL CAN BOID.   OIL CAIN RECENDLY WAS KWOTED IN THE
NESWPAPER AS TRYINNG TO HORMONATE ON THE NOUND.  THE FRENCHS 
SPORTWRIDERS DID NO NO HOW TO TANSLATE THIS INTO FRNCYH AND
MABEE WE CAN AKS OL CAN WAHT HE MENT

OIL CANN WAHT DID U MEAN?

wel' Raf, I was meanin that I was wontin' to hahmonate yo know,
like get out there an' be one wif da ball you know and like all
them french people was wontin to figer out what I was sayin' an 
all...

SO THEN YOU AR NO TOO BLAM OIL CAN MABEE YOU CUD TELL US ABOUT
ROGER CLEMSON WHEN EWE PITCHD WIT HIM MABEE HE WAS BETER THAN
SWINDELLA ND MYABE IRF YOU WANT MEN YOU DONT WANT ME RIGHT OIL
CAN?!!!

blam man?  what blam man?  I'm harmonatin'....

OIIL CAN CAN YOU KNOWK CHAINSAW ON HIT BUT I BET YOU CAN CAN
BUT HE THINGS YOU OUR A GILRLY-,MON PEETCHER OIL CAN AND
HIS CLEMSON IS THE BETS BECAUS HE HAS TOW CY YOUNGS AND TWNTY
K HOF AND YOU DONT' HAVE ANY OF THAT BY THE WAY OILDD CAN
CAN YOU TAKE OFF THAT CHINA ON YOUR NECK CAUSE MABEE I CAN
NOT SEE YOU WIT THAT CHAIN ON YOR NECK AMD YOU ARE TOO BLAMA
BEAUZE ROGER CLMEONS IS BETER THAN YOU...

what you tawkin' raf?

YOU AR TOO BLAM NO WON MAN.....

TANK YOU OIL CAN FOR BEING HEAR TONITE ON RCASO SPEAKINGG FO SPROTS!!!!!
224.14MCIS1::DHAMELMOON is not a verbFri May 04 1990 17:105
    
    DONTT BLAM TEH CAN HE ISS GOOD PICHER AND YOU SHULD NOT SAY ANYTHIN
    BAD CUZ HE MITE KNOK U ON YOUR CANN AND YOU SHULD NOT BLAM HIM CUZ
    THIS IS THE KINER GENTLER NOTE ANYWAYZ!!!!
    
224.15DECXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Fri Jun 22 1990 14:365
    Bob Hunt, what's happening with Kiner?  Has he been muzzled? 
    
    How about some quotes?
    
    Lee
224.16On their way in ...SHALOT::HUNTSend lawyers, guns, and money ...Fri Jun 22 1990 15:118
    Funny you should ask ...
    
    I just got a letter from my dad the other day.  Fresh batches of
    "Kinerisms".  I'll type 'em in tonight.
    
    Hang in there ...
    
    Bob Hunt
224.17Two more ...SHALOT::HUNTSend lawyers, guns, and money ...Sat Jun 23 1990 03:1328
                           "Kinerisms Of The Week"
    
                 by Jayson Stark, "The Philadelphia Inquirer"
    
                    1-May-1990, reprinted with permission
    
    And now -- two more explosions of eloquence from our favorite
    broadcaster, Ralph Kiner.
    
    First comes a line overheard Friday by Kiner fan Joe Buckley of Fox
    Chase.  Kiner had just finished relating the tale of how Houston's
    Glenn Davis had befriended unrelated pitcher Storm Davis as a kid. 
    Which was fine.  But then he tried to take this story one step further.
    
    "And Glenn Davis," he went on, "was raised by Mr. and Mrs. Storm Davis'
    father."
    
    The next night, Dr. Jay Berke of Glenside heard Kiner unleash yet
    another classic as he and partner Tim McCarver wre kicking around the
    uncertain severity of Billy Doran's knee sprain.
    
    "Think of the gamut the word *sprain* encompasses," McCarver observed.
    
    "Yeah," Kiner replied.  "There's the Sprain Parkway in New York."
    
    Right.  Then there's the sprained tongue in the broadcast booth.
    
    Bob Hunt
224.18Was it two or not ???SHALOT::HUNTSend lawyers, guns, and money ...Sat Jun 23 1990 03:2020
                            "Kinerism Of The Week"
    
                 by Jayson Stark, "The Philadelphia Inquirer"
    
                  15-May-1990, reprinted with permission
    
    This week's great moment in Ralph Kiner-watching comes from Saturday's
    edition of the SCTV of baseball highlights shows, *Kiner's Korner*.
    
    As he was narrating postgame highlights, Ralph arrived at a play on
    which Howard Johnson drove in a run with a fielder's-choice ground
    ball.  But, in a major upset, that wasn't quite the way he described
    it.
    
    "Howard Johnson grounded into a double play," he said.  "But it wasn't
    a double play."
    
    Can't get a much more vivid description than that, can you ???
    
    Bob Hunt
224.19Power showSHALOT::HUNTSend lawyers, guns, and money ...Sat Jun 23 1990 03:3734
                            "Kinerism Of The Week"
    
                 by Jayson Stark, "The Philadelphia Inquirer"
    
                    5-Jun-1990, reprinted with permission
    
    The true test of the genius of our man, Ralph Kiner, is that even a
    simple run through the scoreboard can result in total chaos.
    
    On Sunday's edition of the alwasy uproarious Kiner's Korner, Ralph was
    zipping through the scores until he arrived at the Boston-Cleveland
    game.  What he attempted to do with this tilt was to note that John
    Farrell was the starting pitcher for the Indians, that Steve Olin and
    Cecilio Guante relieved him and that Dwight Evans and Wade Boggs
    homered.
    
    Sounds simple enough.  But somehow, it went through Kiner's Kuisinart
    and came out like this:
    
    "Farrell started for Cleveland.  Olin a home run.  Guante a home run in
    the fifth.  And also Evans a home run -- that in the fifth.  Boggs also
    a home run."
    
    Now had all this been true, it not only would have been the biggest
    story of the show, it would have been the biggest story of the year. 
    After all, there hasn't been a home run hit by an American League
    pitcher since 1972.  (Roric Harrison hit the last one.)  But here was
    Kiner's Korner reporting that two relief pitchers had homered in the
    same game.
    
    Alas, it was just another Kinerism.  But we're grateful for it all the
    same.
    
    Bob Hunt
224.20RalphieBoyCNTROL::CHILDSReckless Driving on Dirty BackroadsMon Jun 25 1990 09:024
 The Sprain Parkway  what a beauty.......thanks Bob way to start the day...

mike
224.21RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOANother beauty of a day in Seattle...Mon Jun 25 1990 12:594
    Actually, *there is* a Sprain Brook Parkway in New York.  Goes from
    Westchester Co. into the Bronx....
    
    JD
224.229385::CRITZWho'll win the TdF in 1990?Mon Jun 25 1990 14:016
    	RE: 224.21
    
    	I just arrived back from vacation in Ohio yesterday. While
    	in New York, I saw a sign for the Sprain Brook Parkway, so....
    
    	Scott
224.24QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Thu Sep 27 1990 16:167
   Where's Bob Hunt?
   Or should that be Where's  Bob Hunt Hunt?

   Anyway.... Just dawned on me that we hadn't had hardly any Kinerisms
   this year. What happened?

   Mike JN
224.25DECXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Thu Sep 27 1990 16:205
    Yeah, Mike.  Good point.  Calling Bob Hunt, Calling Bob Hunt.
    
    Come in, Bob Hunt.  Over
    
    Lee
224.26On the road againSHALOT::HUNTWyld Stallyns RulesThu Sep 27 1990 16:574
    After I get back to Charlotte from this assignment in San Diego, I'll
    enter the ones that my dad has sent me.
    
    Bob Hunt
224.27The Unofficial Dumb Things Your Girlfriend Says NoteSHALOT::MEDVIDFri Sep 28 1990 14:4344
    Until then, allow me to entertain you with the unofficial Linda
    Martinez (my girlfriend) quotes of the past month.  Bob Hunt has had
    the pleasure of meeting Linda and can vouch for her Kineristic
    vernacular.  (Disclaimer: Linda is not an airhead.  She just doesn't
    think before she talks, quite like Ralph Kiner.)  Here goes:
    
    We are attending a Charlotte Knights baseball game at which they are
    giving away a car.  During the 7th inning, they drive the car out onto
    the field.  It's all shiney, the headlights are on, and the hazard
    lights are flashing.  She says: "Oh, how cute...
    
    
    
    
    How do they get the little lights to flash like that?"
    
    
    
    I am watching the weather channel last week to see what the weather was
    like in France.  The international weather comes on at 41 minutes after
    the hour.  We've already sat through 20-some minutes of the local
    forecast and I can tell Linda is getting quite bored with all this.  At
    11:38 she turns to me in a huff and says, "Can we watch something else
    please?"  "But dear, there are only three minutes to go."  "No there's
    not...
    
    
    
    
    it's 22 minutes 'til!!!"
    
    
    
    And my all time favorite:
    
    I am watching the Baylor/Nebraska game.  Linda comes in and sits down
    and says, "Who's playing?"  "Baylor and Nebraska"  She watches some and
    begins to look confused (which happens quite often).  "What's Baylor's
    nickname?" she asks.  "The Bears."
    
    
    
    
    "Then why do they have N's on their helmets?"
224.28A classicSHALOT::HUNTWyld Stallyns RulesFri Sep 28 1990 14:5528
    Linda is a doll.  Very, very funny girl.  You better not let her see
    this, Dan'l.
    
    I'll add mine.  It's an oldie but a goodie.  The veterans from this
    conference will recognize it from a few years back.
    
    A couple of years ago, the Bears were playing the Niners on Monday
    Night Football.  I'm watching it and Cindy, my wife, was sitting at the
    dining room table reading a book or painting or whatever.  She wasn't
    paying any attention to the game.
    
    So the Bears run a play against the Niners D and Gifford does the
    play-by-play ...
    
    "McMahon pitches to Anderson.  Anderson sweeps around end and is tackled
    at the 35 by Keena Turner.
    
    Cindy puts the book down and looks up with a real puzzled look on her
    face.  
    
    And then she said: "What the hell is *SHE* doing there ???"
    
    I just about died.  The tears were rolling off my cheeks.  Just the
    mere thought of Tina Turner, the ultimate Acid Queen, in six-inch heels
    and leather skirt playing outside LB for the Niners was enough to send
    me off the giggle fits all over again.
    
    Bob Hunt
224.29QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Fri Sep 28 1990 16:2713
   Big Suze will watch PART of a game.... sometimes... if it's the Donks,
   the Bears, or Notre Dame. She will watch a Cubs game in it's entirety.
   She will watch PART of a World Series Game. She will not watch any
   other sport.

   She always wanders by to check on who is playing, though, if I'm
   watching a game.

   So I always tell her stuff like: It's Miami against the Dolphins. Or
   Cincinatti and the Bengals.
   She nods and goes her merry way.

   Mike JN
224.30shoot the photographer!COGITO::HILLFri Sep 28 1990 16:409
    My wife and I went to a Red Sox - Twins game this year, and Pat, who
    thinks baseball is "boring" got the biggest kick out of the centerfield
    scoreboard mug shots of the players. The Twins photos particularly were
    less than flattering (except for Kirby Puckett), and she thought they
    looked like "a gang of bikers". She referred to Greg Gagne as
    "Gangreen". True, it was a *horrible* mug shot. WHo takes those photos,
    anyway?
    
    Tom 
224.31MCIS1::DHAMELThumb screws; The rack; Red SoxFri Sep 28 1990 17:4616
    
    [No sh*t, Sherlock Dept.]
    
    A friend of mine took his wife one time to see the Harlem
    Globetrotters, and as they bounded onto the floor she whispered,
    "Michael...look...they're all *black* guys..."
    
    Another buddy was driving with his wife over Rte 2, Mass, when they
    crossed over the Connecticut river on the French King Bridge, which
    offers a nice view of the river far below.  She looked out and noted,
    "Gee, that must be a really *old* river..."
    
         [No, airhead, they just put it in last week....]
    
    Dickster
    
224.32Ralph Kiner must've been proud if he was listening ...RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed Oct 10 1990 16:529
    Anybody catch Jack Buck's "Kinerism" last night?  In the last third of
    the game he came up with this gem:
    
    "Cincinnati has outhit the Reds 6 to 5."
    
    Guess that means Cinci had 11 hits.  Wonder how many Pittsburgh had?
    
    
    - ACC Chris
224.33Glad he's not my dad...yes, I'm sureSHALOT::MEDVIDmy apple tree, my brightnessWed Oct 10 1990 19:017
    Nothing was as Kineristic as Bobby Vinton's national anthem.  But as
    Jack Buck said: "When you're Polish and live in Pittsburgh, you can do
    anything you want with the words."
    
    	--dan'l (whos mom dated Bobby Vinton until he tried to feel
    		 her up; then, as she puts it, she knocked the
    		 living shit out of him)
224.34PRAVDA::JACKSONYou run your mouth, I'll run my business brotherThu Oct 11 1990 08:1310
RE: .33


I talked to my mother last night (in Pittsburgh) and she said that the 
"when you're polish...." comment has caused quite a stir there.  It's been
taken as yet another "dumb polish" joke, which isn't appreciated by
Pittsburgh's large Polish population.


-bill
224.35A compliment turned into a controversySHALOT::MEDVIDmy apple tree, my brightnessThu Oct 11 1990 09:0516
    My first reaction was also that Buck had made a Polish/Pittsburgh joke. 
    Then I figured out what he was TRYING to say.
    
    What he said (to the best of my memory): "I guess when you're Polish
    and you live in Pittsburgh, you can do anything you want with the
    words."
    
    What he should have said: "I guess when you're Polish and live in
    Pittsburgh, you're allowed to do anything you want with the words."
    
    Even that, though, might be taken the wrong way by the Polish
    Pittsburghers who are obviously taking what was meant to be a
    compliment and turning it into a controversey.  Buck was complimenting
    the crowd for not booing Vinton back to Canonsburg.
    
    	--dan'l
224.36What happened with the Anthem? I missed it ...RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueThu Oct 11 1990 09:501
    
224.37Loosen UP, get a life!CAM::WAYBeaten like a redheaded stepchild...Thu Oct 11 1990 11:0023
Bottom line, people take themselves too damn seriously.

This country is the greatest melting pot in the world.  People all
too often lose sight of the fact that we're all Americans.  They
all get too thin skinned, and perceive every little remark which
contains an ethnic descriptor in it as being derogatory.

I'm Scottish, and I can't tell you the amount of times that I've
heard people say that so and so is as tight as a Scotsman.  I've
always gotten a kick out of that, and my dad and I always laugh
at those characterizations, and some of the Scottish/stingy jokes
we've heard over the years.

I mean get real.  Jack Buck, on National TV is going to be dumb
enough to put down an entire ethnic group...Right!

People should worry more about the lack of brain cells that they have
which causes them to see things so stupidly....

Arghhh,

Sorry about the flame,
'Saw
224.38Hope this helps ;-)RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOR Joe Morgan & Jerry Burns brothers??Thu Oct 11 1990 11:3416
    Bobby forgot the words, ACCrisp, he sang something like this:
    
    Oh say can you see
    By the light of your juppa dodda
    What so proudly we hailed
    by the the keilbasas last cleaning
    And the pope in the air
    What did warsaw see???
    Was surely a sight for a polka yes indeed
    Oh say does that pieroge still
    stand on the land of the sausage 
    And the Home of the Pope!!
    
    
    JD
    and the Home of the 
224.39Polish jokes not funny. (Scottish ones okay though) ;^)RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueThu Oct 11 1990 11:4611
    Not sure I cain agree with ya 1Way.  I've heard (historians, feel free
    to correct me) that Polish jokes originated in WWII.  Thanks to German
    occupation the Poles were forced to eat garbage, etc. just to stay
    alive.  Conditions were truly horrid, especially for Polish Jews.  
    Apparently the Nazi's used to make jokes about this.  
    
    Every time I hear a Polish joke now I think about this and it suddenly
    becomes alot less funny.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
224.40The Polish PrinceSHALOT::MEDVIDmy apple tree, my brightnessThu Oct 11 1990 12:1428
    JD, I'm on the floor laughing.  I'm going to print that out and show my
    dad (who's Ukrainian, but all us hunkies eat the same food).
    
    To correct JD on a couple points, though, for Chris and anyone else who
    missed a fine rendition of the anthem:
    
    Bobby sang the first four lines correctly, but I think the echo in
    Three Rivers got him ahead of the organist.  While trying to recover,
    he wasn't concentrating on the words.  The 5th line came out, "Whose
    light stars and bright stripes."  From then on it was a fiasco,
    culminating in his reducing the last three lines into two, "Oh say does
    that banner yet wave over land\and the home of the brave."
    
    Guess my mother just hit him too hard that night as teenagers.
    
    RE: ethnic jokes
    
    The way I heard it explained is that ethnic jokes in the U.S. are a
    result of immigration.  The most populous immigrators at the time are
    the brunt of the majority of the jokes.  Right now, Hindu and Hispanic
    jokes are springing up in large quantities.
    
    Of course, in Pittsburgh, you can tell any ethnic joke you want to
    anyone.  Seems funny that the Pittsburgh family would be so offended. 
    My bet is that it's one or two higher ups who've decided to make an
    issue.  I'm sure the majority is laughing...even if it wasn't a joke.
    
    	--dan'l
224.41Bobby wouldn't have muffed "Una paloma blanca"DELNI::G_WAUGAMANThu Oct 11 1990 12:4412
    
    I busted out laughing but understood exactly what Buck was trying to
    say.  As Dan'l indicated in the title of his previous response, Vinton
    plays up the ethnic heritage thing to the max ("The Polish Prince").
    If it had just been some Joe with a Polish name, that would have been a
    different story.
    
    I agree that in Pittsburgh ethnic jokes, most self-inflicted, are very
    common.  I'm sure 99.9+% of the people got a kick out of it...
    
    glenn

224.42CSC32::J_HERNANDEZI came, I saw, I freaked outThu Oct 11 1990 12:582
     Yeh but did Bobby do as good a job as Leslie Neilson in "Police
    Squad"?
224.43Special feature tonight- Zamfir joins Bobby w/your favorite Polkas!SASE::SZABOThu Oct 11 1990 13:128
    >.....Vinton plays up the (Polish) ethnic heritage thing to the max......
    
    I'll say he does.  Everytime I see an ad for a Polish festival, there's
    Bobby's smilin' puss right in the middle of it!  He must make a living
    going from 1 festival to another, in between K-tel Polka commercials
    that is......  :-)
    
    Hawk
224.44CAM::WAYBeaten like a redheaded stepchild...Thu Oct 11 1990 13:4312
I wasn't saying the Polish jokes are okay.  I don't think ethnic
jokes which are designed to hurt people's feelings are okay.

I was saying that just because someone includes the word polish,
scottish,whatever in a statement about someone, doesn't mean it's
derogatory, and shouldn't be taken as such.....

I don't mind Scottish jokes because they are seemingly always in
the spirit of fun, and a lot of time it's the Scots making fun
of themselves....at least that's been my experience...

'saw
224.45MCIS1::DHAMELPartying and OctoberfesteringThu Oct 11 1990 15:459
    
    >    The way I heard it explained is that ethnic jokes in the U.S. are a
    >result of immigration.  The most populous immigrators at the time are
    >the brunt of the majority of the jokes.
    
     So *that's* why I've never heard any American Indian jokes!
    
    Dickster, a fraction Native American.
    
224.46Seneca bloodSHALOT::MEDVIDmy apple tree, my brightnessThu Oct 11 1990 15:567
    Dickster, 
    
    I'm 1/16 Native American.  Someone once told me that a person's heart
    comprises 1/16 of his body.  If that's true, I think I know where all
    my Indian is.
    
    	--dan'l
224.47MCIS1::DHAMELPartying and OctoberfesteringThu Oct 11 1990 16:226
    
    We must be experiencing "Indian Summer" around here.  The weatherman
    said there'd be Apache Fog for the next couple of days.
    
    Cowabunga.
    
224.48MCIS1::DHAMELPartying and OctoberfesteringThu Oct 11 1990 16:256
    
    Your heart, Dan'l?  I thought it was in the loins.  Hmmm..must have
    more Native American in me than I thought. ;^0
    
    Dickster
    
224.49FRSBEE::BROOKSStraight - no chaser ...Thu Oct 11 1990 17:321
    I'm howling !!!!!!!! :-)
224.50Real men don't use fractionsSHALOT::MEDVIDmy apple tree, my brightnessThu Oct 11 1990 17:325
    Your loins are only 1/16 of your body, Dickster?  So sorry to hear
    that.  With a nickname like yours, I'd have expected more. ;-}
    
    	--dan'l
    
224.51.49 is howling at .50SHALOT::MEDVIDmy apple tree, my brightnessThu Oct 11 1990 17:399
    Note .49 should be note .50.
    
    I had originally written my reply without the question mark.  It read:
    
    "Your loins are only 1/16 of your body, Dickster."  This is a
    statement, not a question and I didn't want anyone to think I had
    proof!
    
    	--dan'l
224.52CSC32::J_HERNANDEZI came, I saw, I freaked outThu Oct 11 1990 19:032
    .52 also howling at .50. 8^)