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Created:Thu Dec 14 1989
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126.0. "What happened at Toledo?" by SHALOT::MEDVID (Sacrifice for a new nirvana) Wed Jan 24 1990 15:03

    Can someone fill me in on what recently went on at the University of
    Toledo?  I read a letter to the editor in Sports Illustrated about
    an article published a few issues ago.  However, the letter didn't say
    much about what actually went on.  The writer just lambasted the the
    Rockets' administration.
    
    Anyone know?
    
    Thanks.
    
    	--dan
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126.1Nice Guys finish last againASABET::KNIPSTEINFri Feb 02 1990 15:5012
    
    What happened, as was detailed in the story is a perfect example of all
    that is wrong with college athletics today.  Basically, a couple of 
    "big-time" college administrators went to work at a medium sized Div 1A
    university and decided to legitimatize the school by bringing it "Big-
    time" football.  This at the expense of a decent, hardworking coach who
    cared about the school, it's athletes and the area.
    
    If you want to send me your address I'd be glad to send you a copy of
    the article.
    
    	Steve
126.2Toledo and the rest of the MAC will never be greatSHALOT::MEDVIDYour own personal JesusTue Feb 13 1990 16:4443
    Thanks, Steve, for sending me the SI article.  Your summary in the
    previous reply was on the money.  For those of you interested in the
    details:
    
    Dan Simrell, head football coach at Toledo since 1982, was fired for
    "not winning enough."  His record at UT was 49-38-2.  The '89 season
    ended at 6-5, beating eventual MAC champs Ball State, winning four of
    their last five, and has 15 starters returning.  At the beginning of
    the year, they were picked to finish 6th in the conference; they ended
    tied for second.
    
    Before the season, AD Al Bohl (who was ass. AD at Ohio St for three
    years) "gave Simrell the ultimate bottom line:  Have a 7-4 record or be
    gone.  Had Bowling Green not passed for an 11-yard TD with 20 seconds
    left to beat Toledo 27-23, the Rockets would have been 7-4, won the MAC
    and played in the California Bowl."
    
    Instead, he was fired four days after the season.  Fans were in an
    uproar.  They made T-shirts and buttons in Simrell's favor, ran ads,
    and collected 22,500 signatures that were all ignored by UT president
    Frank Horton.  Horton was president at Oklahoma from 85-88.
    
    Here's the contradiction that really peeves me.  Bohl says, "He doesn't
    deserve to continue as coach, because his coaching was not good enough. 
    And I had the guts to make the right decision.  Our football team has
    to break out of the mind-set of accepting the average, and strive for
    excellence."  Then later in the article he says, "I'm not trying to be
    Ohio State or Michigan.  It's just we should be the benchmark for the
    MAC."
    
    Horse poop!  The MAC will never be better than average in football because
    if you're a better-than-average player in that part of the country these
    days, you go to Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, WVU, Pitt, etc. 
    Who wants to play football for Ball State, Bowling Green, Toledo, Ohio
    University?  Who?  Nobody, and from the looks of some of the teams and
    games, that's exactly who is and will continue to play for the MAC--a
    bunch of football nobodies.
    
    Am I out of line?  Does the MAC ever stand a chance of gaining national
    prominence?  
    
    	--dan'l
    
126.3Decent show. Kareem gets ***HOTSHT::SCHNEIDERWhen it hits, you feel okayTue Feb 13 1990 17:0027
Anyone see 21 Jump Street last night?  It's the first time I ever watched the
show, and that was because Kareem was going to be on.  ANyway, it told
the story of the hypothetical "best" college basketball team in the country,
with the "best" college coach.  Kareem's role was the new Athletic Director
and simultaneously these young cops, posing as a tutor and a wrestler
were making a sting operation for fixing of the hoops team's game.

The story was naive from the point of view of anyone who has been watching
what college athletics has become, but a decent showpiece for prime time
TV.  The basketball team fell into every trapping you've heard about: 
high-pressure recruiting, point-shaving, grade-fixing, cocaine, etc,
etc.

The worst was seeing how young kids, who idolized the players, thought it
was the greatest thing in the world that the star player, kicked off the team
for point-shaving by Kareem but allowed to continue his education, dropped
out of school and applied for the NBA hardship draft.  The kids thought it
great that he was going to make a million in the draft lottery.  At the same time
the player couldn't read.

One hopes there aren't schools who are guilty of all of this at once.  The
point of the show, though, was that the pressures on all concerned, from 
player to coach to teacher to AD are not going to change under the 
present system.  Few people will stand up and be honest when there's
so much money riding.

Dan
126.4CAM::WAYRegulators...Mount UP!Tue Feb 13 1990 17:1312
Gee Dan, for once you and I agree on something ;^)

21 Jump Street is a great show, which tackles a lot of issues, in the
drama scenario of a bunch of young undercover cops.

Last night's show was particularly good, especially in the portrayal of
some of the recruiting techniques, some of the coverups, and some of
the corruption that happens in college sport.

If you get a chance to catch it on the re-runs, please do so...

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126.5SANDS::CRITZGreg LeMond - Sportsman of the YearTue Feb 13 1990 19:016
    	I read the article in SI. What a crying shame.
    
    	And, too bad BG won the game against Toledo, even
    	though I graduated from BG.
    
    	Scott M.A., BGSU 1984