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Created:Thu Dec 14 1989
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105.0. "OFFICIAL 1990 BROWNS at BRONCOS BASH'N'BARK NOTE" by DEC25::MCFALL (I'm Doomed, now Bo knows Diddely too!) Mon Jan 08 1990 03:44


	This is the Official 1990 Browns at Broncos AFC Championship
Bash and Bark Note.  THIS is the place to take each other to task. I only
ask that you keep it clean and avoid personal attacks on other noters.

	Have at it, and all others not interested, you know what to do :^)

	Jim M
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105.1Will get them next year!!!CSOA1::SCHRAMMBorn Free!....My Dad was a Doctor.Mon Jan 08 1990 09:3213
    hats off to the Broncos...... The winning drive at the end was
    impressive.
    
    This Steeler team reminds me of the '72 Steelers. a young team with
    promosing athletes who love to hit. I have a feeling we will be
    hearing from the Steelrs for a few more years. They need help
    on the pass rush, though.
    
    
    good game.... wrong team won :^)
    
    p.s. I hope Hoge can run like that next year!!!!
    
105.2SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAINMon Jan 08 1990 09:574
       3 of 4 games over the weekend were GREAT! I hope the Donks-Browns
    game is as good as their last 2 plyoff meetings, but with the trouble
    the Donks had yesterday I'd say they're dog food.
                                            Denny
105.3CSOA1::SCHRAMMBorn Free!....My Dad was a Doctor.Mon Jan 08 1990 10:027
    
    
    re Denny
    
    I dont think it was as much as the Broncos had troubles yesterday...
    I think the Steelers played one heck of a game. I do not think the
    Broncos are dog food.
105.4SNDCSL::HAUSRATHWho,Stones in '89. Zep in '90Mon Jan 08 1990 11:538
    
    The thing that saved the Broncos was the scrambling of Elway.  I didn't 
    look at the stats for the game, however, I assume he was the leading 
    rusher for his team.  I hope Bud takes this into account, and comes up
    with some way to keep him contained.  
    
    /Jeff
    
105.5MILKWY::CHARRONI'm a human TripodMon Jan 08 1990 13:0012
    
    
    the ONLY thing that saved the Broncos was, as is usual, Mile High
    Stadium. The Steelers thumped the Broncoids for three straight 
    quarters, unfortunately, they ran out of steam down the stretch in
    the fourth. Take the Broncos out of Mile High, and you've got a
    POOR football team.
    
    I think the same fate awaits the Browns. 
    
    Brian.
    
105.6Browns : Death by Elway-gulation .... :-)EARRTH::BROOKSCap's engaged - I pity the lady ...Mon Jan 08 1990 13:0217
    Sorry Jeff, but 'ole Bud's way of keeping Kelly 'contained' in the
    fourth quarter almost cost him the game. In fact it should have.
    The Clowns were ready to pull another patented gag job, but Ronnie
    Harmon (a Cleveland native, I'll bet) saved them. It also would
    have been nice if Scott Norwood could learn to kick in a toxic waste
    sandpile.
    
    Mind you, I don't think much of the Donks, but the ghost of choke
    jobs past will do in the Clowns.
    
    In any case, it's for the best ...
    
    
    
    Who in their right mind wants San Francisco (or LA) ?
    
    DrM
105.7I hope it's ok to JN in this noteQUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceMon Jan 08 1990 13:0621
    re:-.1
    
     Get outta town.....  Bobby played a good game and was close
    to 100 yards....  Elway didn't even come close.  InFACK(tm)
    I would bet he only ran 3 or 4 times. 
    
    Re:  All CLOWNS FANS 
    
     I bet you boys were really routin for the Squealers yesterday.
    AHHHHHH   the Broncos are gonna whip the tar outts you bums from
    Clevescum AAAHHHHHH   !!!  The Clowns are a bunch of no talent
    over-rated bums.  And on top of that, Bernnie wears a dress. Hey,
    I hear that he has picked ouit a strapless evening gown for nexted
    weeks thrashing by the Broncos.  The Clowns don't stand a chance
    in Denver.  I hope the Denver fans remember the treatment the Broncos
    received last time they were in the nuclear waste dump the folks
    from clevescum call a stadium.  The Clowns and all their fans
    are bums........  the AFC would be shamed to send such low life
    CLOWNS to the SB...........  The Clowns SIP!
    
    Big Game
105.8AXIS::ROBICHAUDGo 49ers!Mon Jan 08 1990 13:111
    	Broncos vs. Browns  :=  The who gets killed by the 49ers bowl
105.9This is the Year of the Bronco !QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceMon Jan 08 1990 13:206
     The Broncos will win the SB this year.......  Take it
    to the Bank !!!
    
    Big Game
    
    GO BRONCOS !!!!
105.10new orleans <> mile highLEVERS::STROUTknocking on heaven's door...Mon Jan 08 1990 13:267
    	
    	If the Broncs make it to the SB they will continue their ever
    so famous/typical pattern of losing horribly and disgracing the
    fans.  The NFC is unstoppable.  The Rams/Niners will take the AFC
    *champs* to hell and back.  :)
    
    sean
105.113rd time's the charm!!!COMET::RYBICKIDawgs 2, Donks 0Mon Jan 08 1990 13:481
    
105.12VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye.&quot;Mon Jan 08 1990 14:036
Guys, you're doing this all wrong.  This is a note for junk notes.  Get this
serious stuff out of here.

8^).

j.
105.13Browns ... Yay/Donks ... NayAKOV13::GYOUNGNOPERSONAL_NAMEMon Jan 08 1990 14:2613
    I'm very sad that the Donks have another shot at representing the
    AFC in the SuperBowl ..... they've been blown away twice in the
    past few years.
    
    Go you Brownies ...... let's have some new blood representing the
    AFC !!!
    
    Oh ya .... I bet that the T.V. execs are rooting for the Brownies
    too ..... my guess is that if the Donks represent the AFC, the
    viewership will drop off from last year.
    
    
    Greg
105.14CNTROL::HENRIKSONBe excellent to each otherMon Jan 08 1990 14:368

Re: -.2

If third time was the charm, they should have won it lasted year.!
They're going for Minn.'s record this year to lose 4 S.B.'s

Pete
105.15Browns 3-1 vs. NFC this yearSNDCSL::HAUSRATHWho,Stones in '89. Zep in '90Mon Jan 08 1990 14:439
    
    Pete,  I think he was refering to the 3rd chance the Browns have at 
    the AFC Conference title. 
    
    Granted, whichever team makes it will have a tough time in the Super
    Bowl, but I don't believe either LA or San Fran are unbeatable.  
    Heck, Cinci but on a good show last year without a defense to speak of.  
    
    
105.16LUNER::BRAKEA Question of BalanceMon Jan 08 1990 14:4711
    Bernie should start the game as a 2 minute drill and shut down that
    crowd. Get a big lead and hang on.
    
    Browns also need to substitute freely. Hoge looked to be ready to
    explode from exhaustion in the 4th quarter yesterday.
    
    I agree with Brian Charron...the home field means more to the Broncos
    than any other team in the NFL.
    
    Rich
    
105.18CNTROL::CHILDSBroncos&amp;Elway#1inmybookMon Jan 08 1990 14:495
    
    Jeff, my friend the Niners or the Rams are unbeatable for any team left
    in the AFC....
    
    mike
105.19Don't think I can take 5 days of this.. SNDCSL::HAUSRATHWho,Stones in '89. Zep in '90Mon Jan 08 1990 15:006
    
    Mike,  
    
    I Guess we'll know come January 28th ..  
    
    /Jeff  
105.20EXIT26::CREWSWhat we have here is failure to communicateMon Jan 08 1990 15:044
    Why is the tone in here so bitter today? Did I miss something
    yesterday??
    
    -- Jim Bob
105.21QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceMon Jan 08 1990 15:394
     I think 3 Strikes and your Outaa here is more like what
    applies here..   ;^)
    
    Big Game
105.22History will repeat itself.COMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Mon Jan 08 1990 17:0910
      The clowns will lose again, and thats that!!
    
      Re:  Elway had 44 yards on 7 rushes.  Humphrey had 85 yrds on 18
    tries.
    
      I hope it snows 3 days before game.  That way the fans can hit
    Bernie with an iceball.  Actually,  Denver fans aren't as bad as the
    clowns fans.
    
      Tim
105.23CNTROL::GROSSDid all Donks 'fans' lose a bet?Mon Jan 08 1990 19:488
    re -1
    
    Whaddya mean 'not as bad', I read these notes.  Denver fans throw as
    much BS as anyone.
    
    Go Browns
    
    Bill
105.24Oh yeh???COMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Mon Jan 08 1990 20:3912
       I'm talking about at the stadiums,  not this notes  file.  Yeh some
    people at Mile hi dress up funny(colored hair, ect),  but the clowns
    fans throw batteries, eggs, and dog bones!!!  Also,  Denver fans don't
    dress up as dogs or horses.
    
      Give me a break,  anyone who loves to imitate dogs has to be
    somewhat dumb or insane.  Only during halloween does that make any
    sense.
    
    Broncos rule,  Browns choke!!
    
    		Tim
105.25SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAINTue Jan 09 1990 10:062
       Yeah! Donk fans dress up as manly li'l elves.
                                                 denny
105.26Bernie protects his ASSetsPFSVAX::JACOBI can't wait til next yearTue Jan 09 1990 10:189
    If it snows this weekend in Donkland, Bernie Kosar has stated he will 
    wear a flack jacket on his butt.  
    
    Seems he doesn't want any brain damage in case he gets hit there by a
    snowball.
    
    
    JaKe
    
105.27If You Get My DriftQUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceTue Jan 09 1990 10:547
    re: Tim
    
     I don't know, Tim....  I used to have this girl friend a long 
    time ago that liked to "Bark Like A Dog" sometimes but it wasn't 
    during football games !!  ;^)
    
    Big Game
105.28straight from the horses mouthCNTROL::GROSSDid all Donks 'fans' lose a bet?Tue Jan 09 1990 11:339
    At least Bernie doesn't neigh like a horse.  The dawgs bark during
    the season, but I have yet to see Elway with out his "Bronco teeth".
     
    Go Bernie
    
    Go Browns
    
    ARF ARF ARF
    
105.29COMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Tue Jan 09 1990 12:015
        Great bashing goin' on in here....Got to love it!!
    
      Thats funny Jack,  Anyone I know?
    
    		Tim
105.30The scales of justice will tip in _________ favor?WR2FOR::AIKALA_SHImaginary Lamborghini OwnerWed Jan 10 1990 15:5315
    Let's see....Cleveland Puppies will enter Mile High
    with a chip on their shoulder.  There will be pushing
    contests immediately after tackles because the pups will
    think we stepped on their girly-mon tails a little too hard.
    
    There will be charged electricity in the air, you can feel it now.
    
    The Broncos will either play like they have a desire to go to the
    bowl, or they will play like they have no desire to bowl with the
    49ers.  The pups will bring hockey tactics to the game, along
    with wishful Cleveland hockey-tactics fans.  Denver fans will bring
    their vocal chords.  Maybe the Creator will bring snow, the only
    thing that should be thrown onto the field.  :^)
    
    Sherm
105.31QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceWed Jan 10 1990 15:544
     I doubt it, Tim......  She was a nice girl, you can tell her
    I said that.
    
    Big Game
105.32THE SUPERBOWL BASH CONTINUES...LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRWed Jan 10 1990 16:1622
    
    Love them DAWGS!!!
    
    This will not be the biggest game of the year for the Browns...
    We are going to take Ozzie to the Super Bowl this year!!!
    
    What a game he played on Saturday.  Right off the start..making
    several catches to open up the Mack attack, then bring in the
    Slaughter house for the final kill....Look for the same treatment
    on Sunday!!!  The best game of the year for Bernie and the offense.
    
    They had a great day...compared to the donks and eitherway...well...
    lets not...there is no comparison!
    
    
    			The DAWGS in a rout this Sunday...
    
    
    
    WOOF!
    	WOOF!
    	    WOOF!
105.33there's them f'in ff's again.......SASE::SZABOButt, Iris!Wed Jan 10 1990 16:201
    
105.34BLAM(tm) BLAM(tm) BLAM(tm) The Clowns Are DEAD !!!QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceWed Jan 10 1990 17:168
     There is no way the Girly Mon Clowns will come into Mile High
    and win.  I don't care if they have every rule in the book 
    changed, it just won't happen.  The Broncos are by far the best
    team in the AFC and when we go to the Superbowl We're gonna win
    and win big....  The Dogs are mearly a sparing partner that the
    Broncos are gonna walk all over on their way to  Nor'leans
    
    Big Game
105.35Springs close enough to Denver......SASE::SZABOJoined P_Names AnonymousWed Jan 10 1990 17:217
    I've just concluded that .34 was written under the influence of
    afternoon Denver air, the kind of air that Reeves says there ain't none
    of.......
    
    :-)
    
    Hawk
105.36QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceWed Jan 10 1990 17:415
    Hawk,
    
     I resemble that remark !!
    
    Big game
105.37COMET::MONTGOMERYElway gets Boned on field, film@11Wed Jan 10 1990 18:153


105.40GENRAL::GIBSONTue Jan 09 1990 18:593
    
    One thing that was a refreshing change last week in Denver was that the
    field didn't look like the county landfill by halftime.
105.41WR2FOR::AIKALA_SHImaginary Lamborghini OwnerTue Jan 09 1990 19:027
    Game halted.  Dog-fan thrown from upper deck onto field
    after throwing doggie-bone.  Per Bronco fan - "throw
    a bone, see doggie fetch."
    
    Denver penalized 5 yards.  Big deal.
    
    
105.42Humphrey runs for 100+ yards.COMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Tue Jan 09 1990 19:035
      I wander how many "brave" brownie fans will wear brownie shirts to
    mile hi???  If they do,  then Sherm is probably right about that fan
    getting tossed.  All is fair in love and war right?
    
    		Tim
105.43CSC32::SALZERTue Jan 09 1990 21:538
    When the Browns came to town last year I was at the game. Never had
    I seen so many oposing fans at mile-hi. At kickoff they were very
    enthusiastic but by the half they were very very silent. As bad as
    Denver was last year they murdered the bums. Cleveland is Denver's
    favorite playoff patsie. The Art Modell curse will raise it's 
    ugly head once again and deny the Browns the bowl.
    
    BoB
105.44Mud bowl...LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRWed Jan 10 1990 08:1210
    re:  The General...
    
    	Isn't that the truth...The field in Cleveland was a sand pit.
    
    	When Barr slipped and missed that first field goad...I was
    	wondering if that was the sign of things to come...
    
    		It wasn't!
    
    	WOOF! WOOF! WOOF!
105.45Clevescum:==A$$hole of the worldPFSVAX::JACOBJNing is a way of lifeWed Jan 10 1990 09:348
    Clevescum's field wasn't a sand pit, it's just and integral part of the
    city that's known as the world's only inhabited raw sewage dump,
    Clevescum.
    
    The field is part of the sludgepits.
    
    JaKe
    
105.46QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceWed Jan 10 1990 10:018
    I've been there,  the place glows at night....  I lies along the shores
    of what used to be the worlds largest DEAD LAKE.  The place in a
    nuclear waste dump...
    
    Big Game
    
    p.s.  Why do you think all their fans look like mutants and
         have funny Girly Mon names like "Whitehair" and Groaner" ?
105.47CNTROL::GROSSDid all Donks 'fans' lose a bet?Wed Jan 10 1990 10:456
    ...and you want us to believe that 'Big Game' isn't just a cover-up
    for a small, dweeby, Donk fan...
    
    ARF ARF ARF
    
    Go Bernie    Go Browns
105.48Bombs away!!!7R7NET::LOGANWed Jan 10 1990 14:5113
    
    
    I went to the last Championship game and what I wouldn't give
    to go again and bark at Mini-field and Dick-son and watch Nattiel,
    Johnson, and Jackson burn them two "Pro-Bowlers" time and time 
    again.  Watch for those two to play as dirty as they can Sunday.
    It's the only way they can stop Elway and co., and even then it wont 
    work.
    
    Denver 31
    Cleaver 17
    
    Russ
105.49AKEEM::GRONOWSKIiceMANWed Jan 10 1990 14:527
    
    Penalties and bad calls are all part of the game.  I've seen missed
    calls and critical penalties called on all teams this season.  
    
    Sheep Hunter, the DONKS are going DOWN.  The DAWGS will chew
    up the DONKS!
    
105.50AKEEM::GRONOWSKIiceMANWed Jan 10 1990 14:548
    
    Sheep Hunter, Have the Donks played the Dawgs this year?
    
    Oh yea, I remember... the Donks complained about the Dawg
    Pound in the middle of the game and the referee's made the
    special DONKS RULE and switched ends for them... it didn't
    work... so DONKS Fans claimed there was an 87 mph wind that
    aided Bahr's game winning FG!  Get a life Sheep Man!
105.51Enough with the personal attacks .. SNDCSL::HAUSRATHWho,Stones in '89. Zep in '90Wed Jan 10 1990 14:559
    
    Yo, Big Lame..  after last nights Nova on water pollution in the
    Rockies, I don't think you should be brining up the environment...  
    I'd say Lake Erie water is healthier than the stuff you're drinkning
    out there.  
    
    ..  
    
    
105.52AKEEM::GRONOWSKIiceMANWed Jan 10 1990 14:5716
    
    Sheep Hunter, Have the Donks ever won an NFL Championship?
    Have the Donks ever played in an NFL Championship game?
    
    ANSWER - C H O K E!
    
    I'm rooting for an all Cleveland Franchaise NFL championship
    with the (ex-Cleveland) Rams against the (present Cleveland)
    Browns.  For all you NFC fans... you're dreaming if you think
    the Rams are more dominant than either the Dawgs or the Donks.
    I agree the 49ers are the top team... but the Browns or Donks
    can beat the Rams...  and I'm biased... my top two teams are
    1) Browns 2) Rams.
    
    C-YA!
    
105.54NoNoNo...LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRWed Jan 10 1990 15:1938
         WARNING		WARNING			WARNING
    
    			JUST IN FROM.....USA TODAY...
    
    
    	The Icecube McNiel predicts a big TD run...He states that
    in December, he told the Dawg fans that he would run back a punt
    for the big 6 points.  He said that it would happen either this
    week or on the 28th...
    
    	If it doesn't...?  He doesn't say...
    
    	The Browns Big on Sunday!
    
    
    
    		RE: JACOB...HeHe...oops.
    
    
    	NoNoNo...Its not the mistake....YOU are the mistake.  Didn't
    your team lose last week???  Didn't Bubby make a complete fool
    of himself???   I see you are following in his footsteps!  Find
    a REAL team to root for!  The only thing you can root for is a
    change in divisions!  
    
    				ITS
    				THE
    			FURY ON THE ERIE!!!
    
    
    			     
       	              AND ITS MOVEN TO DENVER!
    
    REMEMBER...
    			You heard it hear first!!!
    
    WOOF! WOOF!
    
105.55The MINI SuperbowlBSS::RIGGENCo Sports teams= BridesmaidsWed Jan 10 1990 15:2219
    First in 86 there was the DRIVE a exciting 97 yrd drive in the last 2
    minutes to beat Cleveland in Cleveland. 
    
    Then in 87 there was the FUMBLE Earnest Byner dropping the ball after a
    hit from Castille. Preventing a sure Cleveland Victory in Mle High. 
    
    
    Now in 89 there will be the BLOWOUT....
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    You all know the winner...
    
    
105.56AXIS::ROBICHAUDElway&amp;BroncosAre#1Wed Jan 10 1990 15:263
    	Dawgs will be pounded.  Donks will win and cover.
    
    				/Don
105.57SASE::SZABOElway&amp;BroncosAre#1Wed Jan 10 1990 15:293
    I agree.  Dawgs are DOG, Donks are GOD!
    
    Hawk
105.58GENRAL::GIBSONWed Jan 10 1990 15:3510
    
    Apparently Mike isn't the only one to lose the bet to Jack.
    
    
    A friend was at last week's Denver game. They were behind the Steelers'
    bench. He said the section he was in started a "Bubby sucks" chant when
    Pitt. was on defense. Bubby turned around and indicated he thought they
    were #1 with a finger.
    
                                                   HOOT
105.59AXIS::ROBICHAUDBroncoFansAre#1Wed Jan 10 1990 15:365
    	John Elway will break out of his season long slump and throw
    for over 400 yards and 3 TDs.  Reeves can book his flight to New
    Orleans (pronounced Knawlins).
    
    				/Don
105.60GENRAL::WADEDriving out of Darlington County.....Wed Jan 10 1990 15:477
    I'm really impressed (for lack of a better term) with all of
    the Donk support.  You guys can't owe Cacti THAT much money!
    
    Hoot, Bubby was actually indicating the cumulative IQ of
    Cleveland fans.............
    
    Claybone 
105.61VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye.&quot;Wed Jan 10 1990 16:451
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105.63SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAINWed Jan 10 1990 17:144
    Congrats
    Jeff
    !
                                                  Denny
105.65WR2FOR::AIKALA_SHImaginary Lamborghini OwnerWed Jan 10 1990 17:562
    Getting the finger by a guy named "Bubby" is hilarious!
    
105.66ROCK::GRONOWSKIiceMANWed Jan 10 1990 18:0411
    
    Just got the word from Vegas... the game is fixed.  The Browns will
    win.  BUD Carson will make big $$$'s on BUD BOWL II commercials as
    BUDs COACH!  Modell will remain as owner through the end of the 
    1990 season at which time he'll sell the team to Donald Trump.
    Trumps $$$'s + free agency = inflated contracts and MORE big stars
    in Cleveland Browns' uniforms.  Trump will sign NOway to a personal
    service contract... since the Browns already have a superior QB in
    Kosar, NOway will be relegated to cleaning bathrooms in Trump Tower
    II (coming soon) in Cleveland Square.
    
105.67underqualified I'll betCNTROL::CHILDSBroncos&amp;Elway#1inmybookWed Jan 10 1990 18:467
    
    Ice, Trump will just give Elway the job won't he? I mean if John has
    to take a test to clean latrines he might as well apply for welfare...
    
    John I never met a zone I could read Elway.......
    
    YKW
105.68QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceWed Jan 10 1990 18:5118
     You guys are a screem........   I just love it !!!  I have been
    Floorward from the last few replies.  Even the ones from the brain
    dead Clowns fans.  I especially like the "Big Lame" comment from
    one of those fleshy headed mutant  Clowns fans.  Hey You Boys didn't
    answer, so I'll ask again.....  Fleshy headed Mutants.....  Friend
    or fo....??????
    
    No Way, Aye .....  You are all enemies of scociety...
    
     The only one who lost a bet to me was Mikey....  I too
    am wondering why all the Donk support ???   I think they are
    trying to put the Jinx on us.
    
     I'm not gonna be here friday so expect a major download from me
    tomorrow.  The Clowns are weak, Their fans are morons and clevescum
    is a toxic waste dump...
    
    Big Game
105.69major download = cover your vt's, people!SASE::SZABOElway&amp;BroncosAre#1Wed Jan 10 1990 19:001
    
105.70Broncos rule, Browns Choke!!COMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Wed Jan 10 1990 19:0123
      More stars on Browns roster??  Who do they have now?  Bernie isn't
    one..Hel!, he wears a dress!  Mini-noyield is overrated, as is
    Dicks scum.
    
      I heard that for the bills game,  the clevescum grounds keepers thru
    saw dust on the field and painted it green.  Any truth to this???
    
      I'm sure it has to be true,  since people in clevescum aren't smart
    enough to know how to grow grass. (.^)
    
      Anyway,  You clown fans just don't give up!   The clowns were lucky
    to have as good of a record as they did this year,  look at the KC
    game,  they were out-played and were lucky to tie,  plus the Bronco
    game they were out-played,  but Winder won it for them.
    
      Also in reference to the Rockies water:   It only gets polluted when
    people from out of town come here and trash the colorful state that
    this is!!   Also,  I have seen clevescum,  and my eyes are still sore
    from all that uglyness.  Yeck!!  Does the sun shine in clevescum??
    
      Hey Groaner and Whitehead,  Can you say crow??
    
    		Tim
105.71ROCK::GRONOWSKIiceMANWed Jan 10 1990 19:0923
    
    Thane GASH!  What a name!  The guy must be a superstar.
    
    Michael "THE DEAN OF D" Perry!  Awesome.
    
    Webster "Ready for a donks" Slaughter...  one of the top 10 spikes
    in the league.
    
    Ozzie Newsome... the greatest pass catching tight end in the history
    of the NFL.
    
    Bud Carson - head coach of BUD team in BUD BOWL II!
    
    I agree though that Dixon and Minnifield are slipping... but Felix
    Wright goes highly unnoticed...  Clay Matthews is over-rated...  
    But so are alot of players in the NFL... including NOway. 
    
    My unbiased evaluation of John NOway.  Great arm strength... possibly
    the best in the league.  Excellent runner, can kill teams with long
    runs.  Average at reading Defense.  Terrible PUNTER... what a joke, the
    quick punt... HA!  = Above average QB... but not GOD!
    
    Sheep Hunter... do you hunt sheep in the mountains?
105.72QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceWed Jan 10 1990 19:116
    Groaner....   Go Back on vacation.... or where ever you were !!
    
    
    PUKE,
    
     Big Game
105.73Colorado sheep = Cleveland blondes!GENRAL::WADEDriving out of Darlington County.....Wed Jan 10 1990 19:141
    
105.74The Sheep Probably Look Better !QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceWed Jan 10 1990 19:154
    My thoughts exactly, Claybone !!
    
    
    Big Game
105.75ROCK::GRONOWSKIiceMANWed Jan 10 1990 19:262
    
    Sheep Hunter, are you saying you LIKE sheep?
105.76Reeves cryingLUDWIG::CLAYBROOKThu Jan 11 1990 06:3610
    Poor Dan Reeves's, he must already have is team prepared and is
    bored or he has no confindence in them. He's crying to the league
    that the Browns should have to be in town 48 hours proir to the
    game, it seems that Bud Carson requested that the Browns be allowed
    to arrive in Denver saturday, and Dan Reeves said something like
    a rookie coach gettingh his way from a rookie comissioner. I thought
    Dan Reeves was above this.
                                        Dan
    
    
105.77AXIS::ROBICHAUDDenver - The Team of the 90'sThu Jan 11 1990 10:064
    	It's obvious that the Browns are cheating.  But it doesn't matter
    because the Broncos are going to SMASH 'em!
    
    				/NoS
105.78Bernie and the bone bitersPFSVAX::JACOBJNing is a way of lifeThu Jan 11 1990 10:4016
    Little Matt Bahr, went to his car,
    to get some dumb dawgs a bone,
    But when he bent over,
    
    Bernie took over,
    
    And gave Matt a bone of his own!!
    
    
    Bernadette Kosar will eat pile-it-hi dirt on Sunday.
    
    Donks    147
    Brown(spot)s  3
    
    JaKe
    
105.79SASE::SZABODonkFever-CatchIt,OrScratchYourAss!Thu Jan 11 1990 11:152
    
    
105.80QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceThu Jan 11 1990 11:1911
    Re. 78.....
    
     I'm screeming......  Thats the best note in this topic yet...
    You should go on Letterman with that one....
    
     I'm slayed....
    
     O Shit, Here comes the boss,  Probably wondering what the hell I'm
    laughing at at 7:00 in the morning..
    
    Big Game
105.81A lot of guys here with the itchCOMET::RYBICKIDonkFever-CatchItWhenYouScratch!Thu Jan 11 1990 11:201
    
105.82BSS::RIGGENCo Sports teams= BridesmaidsThu Jan 11 1990 11:518
    I hear that the Dawg's will be fed a 50lb bag of Purina Dog Chow at the
    Westin Hotel in Denver Saturday night. Also the radio show is asking
    all of Denver to drive by the Westin Saturday night and blast your
    horn. 
    
    Seems this is what the Dawg's did in Clevescum a couple of years ago.
    
    
105.83Good OneCUJO::CRANERandy Crane DTN 553-3313Thu Jan 11 1990 12:078
    I heard a good one on the radio this morning:
    
    Why do the cleveland fans call themselves the DAAAAWWWGGGGS?
    
    
    
    Because they love to run around smelling each other's butts! HA!
    
105.84GENRAL::WADEDriving out of Darlington County.....Thu Jan 11 1990 12:177
    Why do dawgs lick their balls?
    
    Because they can!
    
    ba-ba boom......
    
    Claybone
105.85COOKIE::MJOHNSTONWith a sheep under each arm!Thu Jan 11 1990 12:3010
    What do they call a Cleveland Browns fan with a sheep under each arm?



                                   A PIMP!

                                 Ba ba boom!

                                   Mike JN
105.86RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOA hard rain is gonna fallThu Jan 11 1990 12:3410
    As an impartial observer, I'm howling at donkey fans making fun
    of dawgs.  Donkeys aren't exactly at the top of the heap - aren't
    they also called jackasses - and for good reason.  Aren't they stupid,
    ignorant, dumb, ugly, flea-bitten and just about plain useless?
    
    Think about it.  
    
    Now, back to the regularly scheduled mess.
    
    JD
105.87GENRAL::WADEDriving out of Darlington County.....Thu Jan 11 1990 12:413
    Yeah, but they have LARGE........;^)
    
    Claybone
105.88EARS?MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Thu Jan 11 1990 12:511
    
105.89Teeth?SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAINThu Jan 11 1990 12:542
    
    
105.90go broncos....clowns to be a mile downMAMIE::TAMAGNAThu Jan 11 1990 12:579
    the clowns will go down...they'll start off with a lead then go
    into thier prevent defense which will only prevent them from going
    to the SB.....it allmost cost them the Buffalo game...great coaching
    Humphry will have a 100+ yard game rushing for the broncos...
    
    Question for you clown fans...is it true that that BIG GIRLY MON
    named Mack is going to snort the 50 yard line as the half time 
    entertainment???????????????????
    steve
105.91SOME REAL INFO...LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRThu Jan 11 1990 13:0052
    
    Just read an artical ... NFL Notebook...yesterday.
    
    The Cleveland Browns may be eagerly awaiting the AFC Championship
    game against the Donks Sunday, but they want no part of the city
    of Denver.
    
    Can't blame them!  
    
    Bud Carson said...Everybody that has gone in there and played well
    has gone in as late as possible.
    
    The Browns have been told that teams that stay less than 24 hours
    in high altitude are generally not affected by it.
    
    The prevaliling theory atthe moment is that the Browns will want
    to win Sunday's game more than the Broncos, who have eliminated
    the Browns twice in the past three years.  Naturally, the Broncos
    view this for what it is - nonsense - and look to a more significant
    factor, the fact that the Browns must come to pile it High Stadium
    rather than dragging the Broncos into the barely civilized stadium
    by Lake Erie known as THE DAWG POUND.
    
    NO BONES ABOUT IT...Broncos owner Pat Bowlen is runing the day earlier
    this year when he popped off about the Browns after they dumped
    Denver, 16-13 (FACT), at Cleveland Stadium in part by bombarding
    Eitherway and his teammates with dog bones from the end zone stands.
    
    At the time...Bowlen said, They've got the three worsts in the NFL-
    the worst dressing rooms, the worst field and the worst crowd control.
    That situation over there is a real bush situation as far as I'm
    concerned.
    
    Those words got back to Cleveland, and Sunday the Browns get back
    to Denver.!
    
    ...........
    
    Injury update...Tony Blaylok, who suffered a neck injury and was
    carried off the field on a stretcher in last weeks game, returned
    to practice wearing a heavy plastic neck brace.  Blaylock suffered
    a cervical sprain when he landed on his head in the fourth quarter.
     He will play against the Bronkos.
    
    Kevin Mack, who played sporadically in the second half against the
    Bills, also returned to practice.  He had a knee bruise.
    
    
    LOVE THE DAWGS!!!
    
    WOOF WOOF WOOF
    
105.92RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOA hard rain is gonna fallThu Jan 11 1990 13:267
    RE Altitude adjustment,
    
    For long distance runners, planning on racing at altitudes, the
    theory is either get there the day before, and pound out the race,
    or go about 2 weeks ahead of time to get acclimated.  
    
    JD
105.93WR2FOR::AIKALA_SHImaginary Lamborghini OwnerThu Jan 11 1990 13:5110
    I say let Cleveland arrive Saturday night.  Altitude is something
    you acclimate to.  It takes a little time to adjust.  They'll
    arrive, get their puppy nap and wake up exerting themselves to
    death.  They'll tire quickly.  Puppies may be in for a dog day
    afternoon.  They may already be at the gateway to doggie heaven.
    
    ;^)
    
    Sherm
    
105.94To the Bowl we go!!!7R7NET::LOGANThu Jan 11 1990 13:5713
    RE:91
    
    It's gonna take alot more than some comments by 
    Bowlen to get the Clowns over the hump (Sorry
    Bernie, it was the only word I could think of)
    
    The Broncos have the Clowns so worried about 
    the home field advantage that the Cleavers will
    hope that they never have to have another 
    rematch with the Broncs again!!!
    
    
    Russ
105.95All Dawgs Go To Heaven II7R7NET::LOGANThu Jan 11 1990 13:591
    
105.96QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceThu Jan 11 1990 14:1023
    Start Down Load;
    
     The clowns can't possably win in the Mile High city.  They have 
    no talent, the QB is gay and their starting running back
    is a drug fiend (Thats a FACK(tm) Big Mac).  This team will
    get beat so bad by the Donks it won't even be any fun watching the 2nd
    half of the game.  I can't wait to see all you fleshy headed 
    mutant Clowns fans in this file pissing and moaning about
    how the Zebras gave the game to the Donks and how the Donks 
    don't deserve to be in the bowl and how the Donk are gonna
    get thrashed again in the SB, come Monday morning. All I have
    to say is "At least we've been there"  Have the Clowns ever
    won the AFC Championship ?????  I think Not....  Why you ask??
    Because the SUCK. the city they come from is a dumping ground for the 
    worlds garbage and is located on the shores of the biggest sesspool
    in the world. Let the bums come to Denver when ever they want...
    their gonna get thrashed anyhow.
    
    End Down Load
    
    Many ;^)'s
    
    Meaner and Violent Big Game
105.97COOKIE::MJOHNSTONWith a sheep under each arm!Thu Jan 11 1990 14:1717
	For Carson or Modell to have even mentioned altitude was really a
bone-headed play (but I guess that's to be expected... considering the source).

	JD is right about long distance runners (also bicycle racers or any
other athlete that is expending energy continuously over a prolonged period of
time); they really need to train at altitude for quite awhile in order to
acclimate. However, Football players expend energy in controlled bursts of
10-15 seconds, with 30-60 seconds of rest between (and three to ten minutes of 
rest when they're sitting out, and the Offense [or Defense, as the case might
be] is in.) The studies done on this indicate that altitude will not affect an
individual's performance under these circumstances ( the brief bursts of energy
scenario). However, an individual's mind can do some amazing things, as people
familiar with pschosomatic studies can attest, and if Cleveland player's
`think' the altitude is a factor, it will be. Carson and Modell have done their
team a disservice.

Mike JN
105.98Probably should have gotten here earlyCSC32::GL_JOHNSONWho protects US from YOUThu Jan 11 1990 14:1812
    re: .91
    
    
         Didn't Schottenheimer have the Browns practice in Albuqurque
    before the Browns-Bronco battle 2 years ago so that they'd be better
    ready for the altitude?  Seems that although they were behind early
    in that game, they had plenty of stamina when they came back and 
    made a game of it.
    
         Something to think about.
    
                                           Glen J.
105.99What a Crock !!QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceThu Jan 11 1990 14:206
    What the hell do you know, Mikey....  You're from
    Rastle Cock.....  You can't even get a clue there.
    Keep your bullsh*t stories to yourself, Jerk   ;^)
    
    MVBGH
    (Mean&Violent Big Game Hunter)
105.101another line...LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRThu Jan 11 1990 14:3722
    
    	Oh stop your crying...Its not Cleveland that is complaining
    	but, it is Denver!  All the Browns did was ask for a rule
    	change...and they got it!  Its a big game and they want to
    	be best prepared.  I see nothing wrong with that.  It looks
    	like Denver is really worried about it though.  Don't they
    	think that their team skills are good enough???  No, I don't
    	think so!   Reeves knows who is the better team - THE BROWNS.
    	Home field advantage...when you play infront of your home town,
    	at your stadium...not when the other team arrives!  
    
    	Another artical I just read said that the Denver police will
    	be doubleing up on security and that they will even bring in
    	their own DAWGS, 4 of them.  Just goes to show you who they
    	support.  
    
    	Could this game turn into the likes of the english socker???
    	
    	Woof!
         Woof!
    	  Woof!
    
105.102WR2FOR::AIKALA_SHImaginary Lamborghini OwnerThu Jan 11 1990 14:4018
    Expend energy in controlled bursts?  What is that?
    
    I lived in Colorado Springs for 17 years until 1988.  I went
    back 1 year later, and the mere act of walking up a flight
    of stairs had the heart hammering.  I am 30 years old and in
    good physical shape.  I stayed there for two weeks.  At the
    middle of the second week, I was fine.
    
    I don't buy the seconds here and seconds there of expended
    energy in controlled bursts.  60 seconds will not be enough time
    for any of the unconditioned puppies from pulling their tongues
    back in from panting all over the damn place.  The altitude will
    be another negative factor for these poor puppies, regardless.
    Whether their mental psyche has accepted or shunned the altitude
    factor is irrelevant.  Altitude *is* in the puppies nostrils.
    
    Sherm 
    
105.104CAM::WAYAnd death shall have no dominionThu Jan 11 1990 14:519
The only thing that's being expended here in controlled bursts is
the spuge filling up this note 8^)

Hell, after all this hoopla, I might even watch the game.....

Chainsaw

PS  An for all you Onan types out there entering in controlled bursts,
    remember what Monty Python said about sperm being wasted... ;^)
105.105Donksdoin' the talkin'AKOV13::GYOUNGGo Browns and RamsThu Jan 11 1990 14:5618
    Someone said it a few replies back ....... it's Denver that's doing
    all the mouthin' about the Browns arriving ...... sure seems like
    a sign of a worried football team.
    
    The American football public (and especially true AFC backers and
    the network execs) shouldn't be subjected to another blowout of
    the Donks by the NFC ...... please win Cleveland.
    
    Numerous folks I've spoken with over the past weeks have expressed
    no interest in the SB should Denver be the AFC rep. ....... but I
    doubt that will happen.  With Metcalf healthy, Cleveland is a better
    football team than Denver.
    
    Find your storage crate for all those oranage clothes Donk Fans, you'll
    be putting them away after Sunday.
    
    
    Greg
105.106It was the salmon *MOUSSE* ...SHALOT::HUNTFrom the young man in the 22nd row ...Thu Jan 11 1990 14:5814
    I'm sorry but we'll just have to sell you all off to medical
    experiments.  No, no, I'm so sorry but it's all because the Pope
    won't let me wear one of those little rubber thingies on the end
    of my {penicular appendage}.
    
    And that's because ...
    
    {Strum, strum} 
    
    Hmmmmmmm ....
    
    Every Sperm Is Sacred ...
    
    Bob Hunt
105.107FWIWSALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAINThu Jan 11 1990 15:004
       Record over the last 4 years:
    Donks   40-22-1
    Browns  41-21-1
                                           Denny
105.108COOKIE::MJOHNSTONWith a sheep under each arm!Thu Jan 11 1990 15:0419
Sherm,

	Whether your heart got hammered or not is beside the point, the
`controlled burst of energy' study was not speculation on my part. I was merely
reporting the results and opinions of various medical authorities who have
studied the subject.


Jackie pee-pee,

	Violent?... You?!?  Hah! That would be like being attacked by a kitten.
In fact, like a rather backward and puny kitten at that!

	You had better keep a civil tongue in your terminal, or I will start
relaying some of the perverted practices in which you engage, and which I
spotted with my own eyebones at your birthday party. Don't push it, or you will
end up sobbing your guts out in total and terminal humiliation.

Mike `60 Minutes'  JN
105.109WR2FOR::AIKALA_SHImaginary Lamborghini OwnerThu Jan 11 1990 15:2716
    Mike,
    
    I'm don't question the validity of your statements or the source.
    As an ex-resident, in all reality, it is hard for me to understand
    performance will not be affected in 4 quarters of extreme exertion.
    This isn't the same as being out of breath at Candlestick.  This
    is being out of breath at Mile High, where the heart will work harder
    to recoupe oxygen to the blood from thinner air.  I think we can
    qualify a football game duration to a long distance runner in they both
    exert energy over a period of time.  Hence, Cleveland has not
    conditioned themsleves to meet the demands the altitude will place
    on them.  I'm not saying they will lose the game because of it.
    They *will* feel the effects of it, and it may or may not hamper
    the outcome.
    
    Sherm
105.110Go RAMS!COMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Thu Jan 11 1990 15:4813
      Actually,  I don't give a HOOT about when the clowns arrive.  But, 
    Whitehair says the Broncs are complaining alot about this crappola, but
    look at it this way,  the clowns had to whine to Taglibue (sp?) to get
    the rule changed so they won't be effected so much by the alltitude. 
    That is cry baby tacktics,  but it don't matter, because the clowns
    will choke like usual.
    
      MVBGH,  Sounds like I missed a hellava B-day party if JN speaks the
    truth.
    
    		Tim
    
    PS,  Broncos rule,  Browns choke!! 
105.111RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOA hard rain is gonna fallThu Jan 11 1990 16:149
    Studies also show what I said earlier, if you go to altitude to
    run a distance race, say a 10K - it's better to show up the day
    before or at least 2 weeks before.  I've tried it, and it works,
    I also showed up a few days before, and experienced extreme 
    'discomfort'.  
    
    FWIW.
    
    JD
105.112MACK WILL ATTACKLUDWIG::WHITEHAIRThu Jan 11 1990 16:3241
    Hey Hunter - - you jerk!
    
    	Lay off of Mack...didn't you see the pre game the other day...?
    
    	They had a part on Keven Mack...He has gone through more than
    	you have when you fall down Copper Mtn...(on every run).
    	What they didn't say is that the judge ordered him into
    	shackles the whole 30 days.  He couldn't even practice running.
    	Thats why it took him so long to get back into shape.  
    
    	He is a winner unlike you...who is a wenner!
    
    	It must be hard for you to ski when your head is so big!
    
    	Its nice to know you won't be in tomorrow...tooo bad!  
    
    Hey JERKSONTA, You are the clown!  Face up to the FACTS...
    
    		Cleveland 1	Donks 0
    
    			THATS ZERO!
    
    	Do you get the hint???ZERO!ZERO!ZERO!!!
    
    		JUST LIKE YOU.......'ZERO'!
    
    	Cleveland wasn't whinning...they just asked and sence 
    	Taglibue like the Browns and sence he fixed it....he said 
    
    			GO FOR IT...I LOVE THE DAWGS!
    
    			MAKE ME PROUD!  
    
    
    
    
    			GO CLEVELAND!
    					Go DAWGS!
    
    WOOF WOOF WOOF!
    
105.114A true story.COMET::CHURCHHThu Jan 11 1990 16:4514
    
    	At last weeks game, there were a bunch of Steeler fans talking
    	to a bunch of Broncos fans. Things were going good. Then the
    	Mounted Police came down the road to take their positions in
    	the street, as usual. Well, as they were walking by, one of the
    	horses showed his teeth, like horses do. One one of the Steeler
    	fans saw it and said "hey, there's John Elway". Everybody,
    	including the cops, cracked up. In fact the cop who's horse
    	did it walked over to the guys. The Steeler fans all got around
    	the horse and had their picture taken. It was too much. We were
    	screamin.
    
    	Herv
    
105.115The American Standard Team!LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRThu Jan 11 1990 16:484
    
    	I'm HOWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLL'EN!
    
    	WOOF!
105.117Druggees deserve what they getPFSVAX::JACOBJNing is a way of lifeThu Jan 11 1990 16:599
    Hey White_penicular_excrement_on_the_brain:
    
    Kevin Mack put himself in that position all by himself by his own
    actions with the nose candy.  Anyone, especially a sports figure with
    widespread exposure, who fools around with the garbage deserves
    whatever they get.
    
    JaKe
    
105.118JACOB...WHO really LOVES THE DAWGS!LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRThu Jan 11 1990 17:4530
    
    Hey whinner JOCOB...
    
    		You are so full of garbage that every word I read stinks!
    	Just like your team...
                                               
    		I feel sorry for you.  Remember that it is Cleveland
    	that is still playing...and I might add...for the AFC Championship.
    
    				NOT PITTSBURG!
    
    		Do you understand that or has the game last week put
    	a mental block in your head???  I guess its been so long sence
    	the steelers made the playoffs that you still haven't cleaned
    	your pants.  I notice you like to pick on Bernie alot...must
    	be because you have no quarterback to really root for...except..
    	that no name, hyper, throw 15 yards over his head, baby bubby
    	bullshooter, bruster.  What a wimp he is.  Had to have his
    	mommy there...I noticed his dad put the big coat on to cover
    	up his shirt and save his face.  I could tell he really wanted
    	to slap that woman next to him.
    
    		Face life, and the FACTS...
    
    			BERNIE AND THE BONE BASHERS 
    				ARE
    			THE AFC CENTRAL DIVISION
    				CHAMPIONS
    
    	WOOF WOOF WOOF!
105.119QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceThu Jan 11 1990 17:5113
     Hey ____head....
    
     To hell with Mack, I could out ski him any day.  As far as I'm
    concerned.....  He deserved what he got.  The guy broke the law
    and got busted....   They should have thrown his a$$ in jail
    for a long long time.  The CLOWN was dealing dope and using it
    at the same time.  Any good Durg Dealer knows you have to keep
    you PAWS out of the product.  Kevin Mack represents just how
    little class the Clevescum Clowns Organization has....  NONE !!
    
    You're a JERK !!!   ;^)
    
    MVBGH
105.120COOKIE::MJOHNSTONWith a sheep under each arm!Thu Jan 11 1990 17:539
105.121GENRAL::GIBSONThu Jan 11 1990 18:055
    
    One BIG difference between Denver justice and Cleveland justice is the
    fact that Mack went to jail, didn't pass go either, and "Officer" Perry
    was also convicted and sentenced to jail but conveniently not until
    after the football season.
105.122LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRThu Jan 11 1990 18:0520
    
    
    	Lets get real here...Kevin Mack is just a kid...he didn't know
    	what he was doing...and he DID NOT SELL THE STUFF!  I think
    	he paid the price!  Let the NFL test him...and I'm sure they
    	are.  I wouldn't be surprised if he is tested every week.
                                              
    	Now...people like LT is a different story...the guy is still
    	a user.  Like Gastano (sp)...thats why he is not playing 
    	anymore.
    
    	Mack knows he made a mistake and is sorry for it.  Leave the
    	guy alone and give him the praise he deserves...
    
    	Haven't you ever made a mistake???  Oh no, not you...your
    	mother made the mistake.  ;-)
    
    	WOOF
    
    	
105.125LOTS OF SMILES :^)QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceThu Jan 11 1990 18:1813
     Hey White_dawg_crap_For_brains_hair,
    
     #1,  Remember this is the bash note you loser.  #2,  if I 
    ever hear you saying anything about my mom again I'm gonna
    slap that silly looking dawg face right right off your head
    you good for nothing fleshy headed mutant peice of dog doo.
    I bet you and Bernie are real good friends aren't ya big guy?
    I wouldn't bend over in front of him, litelocks....  you 
    might just get more than you asked for. Although, the way bernie
    looks I bet you'd be disappointed....   ;^)
    
    
    Big Game
105.126GENRAL::GIBSONThu Jan 11 1990 18:3320
    
    A jail sentence is a jail sentence. What's the difference what it was
    for? I sure would have loved to have seen "officer" Perry's face when
    the real cops showed up. The facts are; he picked up a hooker, then
    told her he was a cop, showed her a badge (the cops confiscated it),
    then told her if she practiced her trade on him for free he wouldn't
    haul her in, then along comes the real cops when they see the van a
    rockin' and haul in Perry for impersonating a cop (felony), unlawful
    imprisonment (misdemeanor instead of kidnapping which is a felony), and
    soliciting a prostitute (misdemeanor). The impersonating an officer
    charge, which they caught him red handed or badged as the case may be,
    and the unlawful imprisonment charge were dropped, which I called long
    before the trial BTW. If it were the average Joe Blow on the street, he
    would be in jail now. Obviously in Cleveland, they don't care who you
    are. Apparently that is not the case in Denver. 
    
    So who's blowing wind?
    
                                                   HOOT
    
105.129JUST FOR HOOT!!!!!WR2FOR::AIKALA_SHImaginary Lamborghini OwnerThu Jan 11 1990 19:0923
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105.130QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceThu Jan 11 1990 19:103
    Oh Oh,  someone taught him how to Cut & Paste....  Look out !!
    
    Big Game
105.131GENRAL::GIBSONThu Jan 11 1990 19:5912
    
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha! The old childish, "move to so-and-so if you don't
    like my team" comment. I haven't seen that one in quite a while. By the
    way, I don't live in Denver nor do I have any desire to do so. 
    
    Also, your "facts" are a bit twisted. Perry was charged with the
    impersonating an officer felony and went to court on that charge.
    Amazingly he was found not guilty, even though the cops took the badge
    from him.
    
                                                   HOOT
    
105.132Clowns will need all the help they can getCOMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Thu Jan 11 1990 20:0011
      Hey Whitehead,  you know,  like that thing on the tip of your nose??
    I will ignore you,  since you like to speak like my 1/2 Alaskan wolf
    1/2 Husky out in my back yard!!  Anyone who barks is obviuosly a mental
    case.  You don't hear me going Niegh (sp?).
    
      Get a life, ok?
    
    			Tim
    
    PS.   Buy the way Whitehead,  At least I'm man enough to put my first
    name in here!
105.133CNTROL::GROSSDid all Donks 'fans' lose a bet?Thu Jan 11 1990 20:2310
    Broncos?  What a bunch of losers.  A guy has to impersonate an officer
    to try to get it?  Why didn't he go jump a Donk like the rest of those
    wimpy, crying, sissies?   I heard that Eitherways lips are popular with 
    his offensive line. 
    
    Go Browns
    
    ARF ARF ARF
    
    Bill 
105.134WR2FOR::AIKALA_SHImaginary Lamborghini OwnerThu Jan 11 1990 20:3012
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DDDDDDDDD  EEEEEEEEE  NN    NNN       VV       EEEEEEEEE  RR   RRR

THE MILE HIGH CITY, HOME OF THE DENVER BRONCOS, LAND OF THE GREAT
MILE HIGH STADIUM, GATHERING PLACE OF THE BEST VOCAL, FOOTSTOMPING
FANS IN THE WEST, WHERE HISTORY WILL SOON REPEAT ITSELF AGAIN, 
WHERE LOST LITTLE WHIMPERING PUPPIES WILL BE TRAMPLED UNDERFOOT
BY WILD HORSES.  THE TIME IS NIGH.  THE TIME IS RIGHT.  GO BRONCOS!
105.135Broncos still rule, while clowns choke!!COMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Thu Jan 11 1990 20:355
      Re: .134
    
       Love it!!!!
    
    			Tim
105.136GENRAL::WADEDriving out of Darlington County.....Thu Jan 11 1990 20:433
    I can't wait til tomorrow.........
    
    Claybone
105.137CNTROL::GROSSDid all Donks 'fans' lose a bet?Thu Jan 11 1990 22:2815
    Do all Donk fans wear Cowboy hats, go to Square dances, and hate
    animals that they can't eat or they can't sleep with.  You'all can
    have your Donkburgers and be amorous with your Wool covered friends
    cuz the Dawgs is gonna kick some BUTT this weekend.  So quit whining
    and crying and just go back to the haystacks  with Mr Ed and all those
    Donko losers.
    
    GGGGGOOOOOO   BBBBRRRROOOOWWWWNNNSSSS
    
    Cleveland Browns...Team of the 90s...just you better believe it.
    
    Bill
    
    p.s.  Don't you'all come back now, freaks...
                                                
105.138CLEVELAND IS THE LAND OF LOSERS..WHATS WRONGROULET::GARRYHelllppppFri Jan 12 1990 01:404
    I just can't hold back anymore,I'm not a fan of either but you
    "dawg" fans are relly out of it.....they have as much of a chance
    of beating Denver as Noriega had  dodging the U.S.A............
    Cleveland backed in and will get kicked out with a real bad beating.
105.139Noriega is not on trail yet.....ELMAGO::RBARELAFri Jan 12 1990 03:1127
    I am a fan of AMERICA'S TEAM THE CHICAGO BEARS, but in reply to
    .138
    >>Cleveland backed in and will get kicked out with a real bad beating.
    
    
    
    Denver didnt exactly storm into the playoffs either.  In fact...
    In my opinion Denver had a zillion rabbit's feet, lucky pennies,
    and went to the wishing well in their win over the Steelers.
    
    
    
    
                                 PURE LUCK. 
    
    
    
     My plate is ready for crow but not next MONDAY!!
     
    
    
    Browns by 3 in a high scoring affair.
    
    
    
    
    rub
105.140Brownies 75 Donks 72 treadwell's fg hits bar bounces wrong for broncsCNTROL::CHILDSBroncos&amp;Elway#1inmybookFri Jan 12 1990 10:251
    
105.141Donkeys win 7 rabbit's feet to 3CNTROL::CHILDSBroncos&amp;Elway#1inmybookFri Jan 12 1990 10:261
    
105.142AMERICAN STANDARD TEAM = DENVERLUDWIG::WHITEHAIRFri Jan 12 1990 10:4687
    
    	Another day...another beating!
    
    	Got a call from dear ol Mom last night...
    	This is how the beginning of the call went...
    
    	ring, ring,
    	
    Me: Hello.
    Caller: Grrrrrrrr Ruf, Ruf!
    Me: Awoooooooooo!
    	
    	We knew what the other one was saying!  We were howling!!!
    
    	I got the scoop!  Whats happening in Cleveland, the home
    of the World famous Cleveland Dawgs!  
    
    	I found out that the whole team is healthy!  Good news! 
    The town is going crazy!  Everybody is showing their support.
    The banks and businesses are hanging signs on their buildings.
    Today, everyone wears Cleveland shirts and whatever else they
    can find that shows their support.  The big fad....orange shoes!
    Everyone is painting their shoes orange.....why.....Eric Metcalf!
    
    	Does 90 yards = TD mean anything???  
    
    	She said that one of the Cleveland reporters that is down
    in Denver wrote a little thing about the fans there and said that
    the town of Denver isn't doing anything...?  Why...because they
    know what is going to happen this Sunday...they have the attitude
    that there is no sence going to the Superbowl if your going to
    get blown out.  They know its true.  
    
    	Bud Carson said that the team is ready!  "We will win!"
    
    	It seems that all the forcasters are predicting a Cleveland
    win and also a Cleveland Superbowl Bash!  I watched a show on
    the other night called, playbook, both guys predict a Cleveland
    win over Denver and one predicts a SB win for the Browns and the
    other said that the Browns still have no running game.  Huh!
    No running game???  We will see this weekend, won't we..?!
    
    	Has anyone seen HBO's Inside the NFL yet???  What did they say???
    I'll watch it tonight.  
    
    	Watch this town go nuts after the game this Sunday...I'm sure
    the lights will stay on!
    
    	An artical in the Cleveland paper said that Art M. is upset
    about the coverage he is receiving durring the game...He said..
    "Why are the camera on me???  I'm not the one doing the job...
    keep the camera on the players!  He said that he was not going
    to be sitting in the owners box in Denver so that the news people
    can't get him on film.  
    	I kind of like seeing him on the screen every once in a while.
    I'd like to know what he will do when the Browns do win.  I guess
    the paper people are making fun of his camel hair trench coat that
    he wears...they say they will find him because of it....rummor has
    it that his wife is going to get him a new coat.  I know that coat
    is a couple of years old...  Don't be surprised to see him in
    orange tennis shoes.  I have mine!  Their on too!  They kind of
    make me feel like I can float and I know I can run faster!
    
    	Awoooooooooooooooooooo!
    		I can't wait!!!
    
    	American Standard Team = Sheep Hunter/JERKSONTA/Bronco fans
    
    		In case you don't know where the American
    		Standard Team comes from...
    
    	Just go inside the bathroom...open the stall where the pooper
    	is and read the manufature name....American Standard!
    		
    
    		The Toilet bowl team.....DENVER DONKS!
    
    
    	The donks will be P O U N D E D and the American Standard Team
    	gets the flush!  Not to mention the B O N E !
    
    
    	WOOF!
    	 WOOF!
    	  WOOF!
      
    
105.143PFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Fri Jan 12 1990 10:5026
    Hey White_vacuum_between_the_Ears
    
    Re.122, you talk like Mack(off)is a 12 year old who stole a damned
    candy bar.  1. Drugs are sh!t, and anyone caught with them should do
    some time as both punishment and deterrent.  I don't care if the guy is
    Kevin Mack or George Bush, they should do time.  2.Mack was in PRISON,
    not a freakin country club.  Therefore, as a deterrent, if he has to
    walk around in shackles and can't "stay in shape", that's the breaks.
    If you were to get busted and sent to jail, should they let you play
    with computers so when you get out you can pick up where you left
    off???????
    
    As per the Steelers, contrary to the way your pea brain works, I know
    where the Steelers are right now.  I just can't believe you act like
    the Brown(spot)s went 16-0 this year when they were 9-6-1 and finished
    completely one-half game ahead of the Steelers.  The Steelers grew as a
    team and they are a young team.  The years to come show much promise
    and They should make the playoffs next year again.
    
    As for the Brown(spot)s(tm), after Sunday, they will be watching the
    Super Bowl from the same place as the members of 26 other teams, in
    from of their TV's.
    
    
    JaKe
    
105.144THE AMERICAN STANDARD TEAM = DENVERLUDWIG::WHITEHAIRFri Jan 12 1990 11:0229
     Ja-Cob-Head...
    
    	I never said that Mack didn't deserve what he got...I just 
    think that the guy has made one hek of a come back and that he
    is sorry for what happened.  He is a community service worker
    in his spare time...
    
    	Reguarding the Steelers...If they do make it to the playoffs
    NEXT year...it will only be for a wild card spot again...the 
    Browns will be dominant again.
    
    	As far as Clevelands record goes...Their record should be
    14 - 2 - 0 with the only losses comming from your Steelers and
    the other one comming from the Bengles.  All the other games
    should have been wins...they were all decided by 3 points with
    the exception of one and most were ot losses.  If Bernie was
    really healty durring the lossing streak they went through the
    record would be different.  
    	Tell me...who had the best record in the AFC agaist the NFC???
    
    				THE BROWNS!
    
    	Go get another cup of coffie and
    
    				WAKE UP!
    
    WOOF!
     WOOF!
      WOOF!
105.145Get a Brain, pleasePFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Fri Jan 12 1990 11:1216
    Hey White_blind_to_real_life:
    
    funny, when I look at standings I don't see:
    
    
    
                           w    l    t      should-have-beens
    
    Face it, the Brown(spot)s lost games that they should have won.  Good
    teams win the games they should and remain consistent.
    
    I suggest you eat a couple boxes of EX-LAX and relieve the pressure on
    your brain.  Send the results to Bernie for dinner.
    
    
    JaKe
105.146PFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Fri Jan 12 1990 11:1716
    White_$%#&*_@#$%%^:
    
    For one thing, If my mother called and started a conversation like you
    said yours did, I doubt if I'd admit to it.  You're leaving yourself
    open to some big time abuse there.
    
    Two, Did you start thinking about this American standard thing at the
    beginning of the season or what, it seems like something that probably
    took all of Clevescum 6 months or so to come up with.
    
    Clevescum:==World's only inhabited raw sewage dump
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
105.147LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRFri Jan 12 1990 11:5126
    
    American Standard...
    
    	Well, I've been saving it for quite some time now...
    
    			If the shoe fits...
    
    	I guess I should have included your name in the list...
    		
    			I'll add it now..
    
    		American Standard = Toilet Bowl team & members
    				  = Sheep Hunter
    				  = Jerksonta
    				  = Ja-Cob-head
                                       ^^^^^^^^
    			New addition but has allways been member
    
    			Allways open for new members...
    
    	WOOF!
    
    		one time deal...
    
    	Hal
    
105.149the truth comes outPFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Fri Jan 12 1990 12:0210
    >>In order to prove that, the only testimony the DA had was that of a 
    >>hooker, with a record a mile long, including drug charges, petty theft,
    >>and prostitution
                                             
    And above all of that, she is Bernie Kosar's sister.
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
105.150Your spewing againCOMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Fri Jan 12 1990 12:0818
      Hey Jake,  That a big cut down for the Prostitute.  Give her a break, 
    at least she likes the opposite sex.  Now for Bernie...Well we all know
    that story.  By the way whitehead..Is bernies dress ready yet?
    
      Now for the weather...
    
      Denver forcast for sunday is:  Partly cloudy and breezy at times with
    a high around the mid 40's..Great football weather!!!
    
      Broncs will win another close one.  And I say there will be more
    defense than people think. 
    
    
      Broncos    24		Clowns    18
    
    Don't ask where I got 18...
    
    				Tim
105.151Come Rain, come snow, come the Browns!LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRFri Jan 12 1990 12:127
    
    	What about the storm that is going through now...I saw on the
    weather channel last night that they are predicting snow...?
    What about the wind???  Are you getting the 60+ that they are talking
    about???
    
    	WOOF!
105.152SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Fri Jan 12 1990 12:143
       Hope it isn't TOO windy, I don't think I could stand the sight
    of Bernice's dress blowing up over her haid!
                                         Denny
105.153Inquiring minds want to know.LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRFri Jan 12 1990 12:157
    
    By the way, what ever happened to that Superbowl contest that is
    write-locked???  Who has the most points...now???  Who is still
    in the contest???
    
    WOOF
    
105.155CNTROL::GROSSDid all Donks 'fans' lose a bet?Fri Jan 12 1990 12:348
    SMellway and the Donkheads are gonna get smashed by the DAWG defense!!!
    
    GGGGOOOOOO   BBBBBBRRRROOOOWWWWNNNNSSSS
    
    1990  the YEAR of the DAWG
    
    
    Bill
105.156ClarificationPFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Fri Jan 12 1990 12:4813
    Anyone watching last weeks games between the Brown(spot)s(tm) and the
    Baffalo Billyboys notice the things that reside in the "pig pound"
    with the dog faces, noses, etc.  I just read somewhere that those
    people are not wearing any costumes or false faces, or parts.  These
    are the birth defects of the average resident of Clevescum from the
    toxicity of the area.
    
    Go Donks!!!Beat the team from the mistake by the lake!!!
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
105.157powder is powder...WOODRO::TAMAGNAFri Jan 12 1990 13:3410
    yooooooo  White-powder....you use it ...you lose it....
    Mack got less than he deserved....
    as for the donks and the clowns ...if they were in the NFC niether
    one would have made the playoffs.....
    
    but since they are in the afc the Clowns will rule.....
    Mack will be the key.....just hope he don't sneeze .....we won't
    be able to find the side lines.......
    
    steve
105.158CAM::WAYAnd death shall have no dominionFri Jan 12 1990 13:4924
Re Genetic Mutations in NFL Football Stadia...

Here's the Deal.  The Dawgs in the pound actually descended from 
the Hawgs in Washington.

The original Hawg was a girl named Shirley, who used to go out
with one of the guys I hung around with.  See, one day she up and
disappeared.  Then, we were watching the Giants/Skins game one
day, when we say a Hawg.

Jeff blurts out "Shirley!".  She was surrounded by Hawgs... Jeff
immediately yelled, "I knew she was f___ing around!"

So, that's how the Hawgs got started...

Soon after, we heard she'd moved to Cleveland.....

Now, as for that little fairy guy I saw in Donkland Stadium, he
descended from the same space alien that was friendly with a horse
and spawned Mr Ed....

HOpe this Genetics lesson helped!

Chainsaw
105.159GENRAL::GIBSONFri Jan 12 1990 13:5112
    
    Hey Steven, why don't you compare Perry's record with the hookers'. 
    They have to be similiar. What a concept, the defense disputing the 
    prosecution's testimony. Believe it or not, the defense attorney's job
    is not to see that justice is served. His job is to get his client off
    the hook. Your claim that I started this legal rathole is also not
    true. It was a Denver fan, I forget who, that started mouthing off
    about Mack. I am just pointing that one should look in their own back
    yard before pointing fingers at others. Have a good one, babe!
    
                                                   HOOT
    
105.161GENRAL::WADEDriving out of Darlington County.....Fri Jan 12 1990 14:405
    What weather report are you guys getting?  The forecast I heard,
    for the Springs which is 70 miles south, is for partly cloudy
    skies and temps. in the mid 50's for Saturday and Sunday.
    
    Claybone
105.162SASE::SZABOScratch 'n Sniff hereFri Jan 12 1990 15:1911
    
    			NEWS FLASH!
    
    John Elway is undergoing major root canal and is listed as "scratched"
    for Sunday's game against the Browns.  In a desparation move, Denver GM
    trades Elway to the Jets for Tony Eason.  When axed how he feels about
    taking Elway's place in this monumentous game, Eason said, "The grass
    is always greener.  Hee haw.  Hey, I'm already starting to feel my
    oats!  Golly!"
    
    Film at 11.
105.163SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Fri Jan 12 1990 15:303
       Besides they have real grass at pile-high. Toni won't get hurt
    as bad when he takes a dive!
                                           Denny
105.164GENRAL::GIBSONFri Jan 12 1990 15:343
    
    Yoo hoo, Steven. Take a gander at .98
    
105.166ROCK::GRONOWSKIiceMANFri Jan 12 1990 16:2020
Does Elways and the Donks have enough to beat the browns?
Are the Donks going to choke again like earlier in the season in Cleveland?
Will Webster Slaughter catch 4 TD passes on sunday?
Gib Shanley (browns radio man) goes wild with excitement?
Season sweep for the Browns over the donks?

Do Donks fans realize that Denver has never won an NFL championship.
USFL doesn't count!  They may have won one of those?  Who knows.  Who cares.
Mack is back to run wild.  Donks defense couldn't even stop Hoge!
Pittsburgh is done.  Jake(off), take off!

Donks lay ball on carpet late in game.
Ozzie Newsome sustains late drive.
Newsome catches game winning TD.
Kickoff sunday in VILE HIGH stadium...
See you monday...  donks fans will be in hiding.

BANK ON IT!
    
105.167You heard it here firstPFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Fri Jan 12 1990 16:2121
    I know someone who works at the National Inquirer and these are future
    headlines:
    Bernie Kosar reveals that he hates football, but says he plays because
    where else can he get to tickle another guys filberts and butt without
    first buying him a few drinks.
    
    Kevin Mack hospitalized with frostbitten nostrils after snorting snow
    off a sidewalk in a blizzard.  Says Mack, "I woke up and saw this hite
    stuff fallin from the sky and thought my prayers had been answered."
    
    Ozzie Newsome hunting for someone to sell him a Super Bowl ring.  Says
    with this team that is the only way he'll ever get one.
    
    Matt Bahr carries 2 Sears catalogues with him everywhere.  Says
    otherwise, how would I be able to see anything when I'm on the team
    bus?
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
105.16848 hours until "put up or shut up" timeSTAR::YANKOWSKASLook Ma, no cavities!Fri Jan 12 1990 16:279
    How often does Denver throw to their running backs?  Buffalo had a fair
    amount of success with this in last Saturday's game against the Browns,
    wondering if the Broncos might try doing the same.
    
    I predicted Denver 23. Cleveland 17 in the Super Bowl Picks note a few
    weeks ago, still sounds about right to me.
    
    
    py
105.170PFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Fri Jan 12 1990 16:319
    hey Groaner, are you gonna start with that "Has XXXever won an NFL
    Championship"  Has Cleveland won one since the Kennedy was elected??
    
    Also re Kosar, and article in a sports mag said Bernie said he throws
    sidearm because if he goes overhand, his bra straps bite into him too
    tight.
    
    JaKe
    
105.171I wouldn't admit to knowing a DONK eitherCNTROL::GROSSGo BrownsFri Jan 12 1990 16:4919
    I see the Browns fans say "Go Bernie, Go Mack, Go Webster"
    
    Do you ever see anything like this from the Donks "fans"?
    
    Whatsamatter?  Don't you 'fans' like your team.  You seem to know all
    of the Browns, but can't come up with  a few names from the Donks...
    
    Personally, I don't want to know any names of those losers.
    
    
    Go Bernie,  Go Mack,  Go Webster,  Go Cube, Go Metcalf,
    Go MDPerry, Go Risien, Go Hairston, Go DAWGS, Go Minnifield,
    Go Dixon, Go Wright, Go Langhorne, Go Brennan, Go Bahr,
    Go Wizard, Go Matthews, Go Bubba...
    
    
    GGGGGGOOOOOO   BBBBRRROOOOWWWNNNNSSS
    
    Bill
105.172GENRAL::WADEThis sheep dip is delicious!Fri Jan 12 1990 16:529
    
    
    	Go "whatever that guy's name is that led the Donks to
    	victory in two afc champeenship games against the
    	stains"!!!!
    
    Happy?
    
    Claybone
105.173JAWSBUILD::MORGANFri Jan 12 1990 17:119
    >			NEWS FLASH!
    
    >John Elway is undergoing major root canal and is listed as "scratched"
    
    How'd the dentist perform this marvelous feat, Hawk?  A jack hammer and
    2 or 3 cherry bombs?  I hear they need to use a car jack to keep his upper 
    jaw open while drilling!
    
    					Steve
105.174PFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Fri Jan 12 1990 17:1312
    What does Bernie complain is the biggest problem about picking
    his boyfriend for the night at the local bar??
    
    
    He never knows whether he's gonna get a tight end or a wide receiver!!!
    
    yipe yipe yipe
    
    Brown(spot)s(tm) suck!!!!!!!!
    
    JaKe
    
105.175CSC32::J_HERNANDEZIf its Brown,Flush it down!!!Fri Jan 12 1990 17:1627
    You know Everett and Randell and Boomer and Bernie, 
    Montana and Philsimms and Warren and Donny
    
    But do you recall, the most famous QB of all
    
    Johnny the Buck toothed QB
    Has an arm just like a gun
    and when the donkeys have the foot-ball
    He'll hit johnson on the run.
    
    All of the clev-land d-backs
    Are gonna cry and hide their heads
    They'll never reach the superbowl
    'cause of the arm of Mis-ter Ed's
    
    Then one lighted day in the 'dome
    Danny came to say
    Johnny with your rock-et arm
    Can we get by L.A.'s Harm
    
    Now all Donk noters are quiet
    the game went down in his-tor-y
    Led by the rocket-armed Elway
    denver lost for-ty one to three!!!
    
    have a nice day Johnny!!!!
    
105.176GENRAL::GIBSONFri Jan 12 1990 17:3114
    
    Steven,
    I think you are losing it. .165 makes reference to notes that don't
    have anything to do with the legal rathole. Then your .169 refers to
    yourself, .165.
    
    Paul,
    Denver doesn't throw to the RB much. Elway can't throw touch passes. He
    tried a screen last week and it hit the dirt about 2 yards short. The
    short passes he throws are usually across the field, where the ball
    actually flies 30+ yards in the air.
    
                                                   HOOT
    
105.178...where life is beautiful all the time... :-)STAR::YANKOWSKASLook Ma, no cavities!Fri Jan 12 1990 18:008
    re .177:
    
    Pound puppies hanging from the ceiling, eh?  Sounds like someone read
    my note in the old SPORTS about what I did with my wife's Toronto Blue
    Jays' teddy bear back in late September... :-O
    
    
    py
105.180EXIT26::CREWSWhat we have here is failure to communicateFri Jan 12 1990 18:104
    Uncle Hootsie ... you're still bitter over the faiders demise ... I
    still think you a closet DONKS fan, however ...
    
    -- JB
105.182tick, tick, tick....GENRAL::WADEThis sheep dip is delicious!Fri Jan 12 1990 18:121
    
105.183LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRFri Jan 12 1990 18:192
    
    	
105.184GENRAL::WADEThis sheep dip is delicious!Fri Jan 12 1990 18:2515
    re -.183
    
    	Now that's the best note you've ever entered litelocks!
    	What prose!  What feeling!  A standing O for you...<clap,
    	clap, clap>.
    
    	My wife works for a company that is headquartered in
    	Clevescum.  The fax war is hot and heavy right now.
    	One of my office neighbors lets out a "woof, woof,
    	woof" about every ten minutes.  He must be related
    	to litelocks.  The situation is degrading rapidly.
    
    amf,
    
    Claybone
105.185Whitehair Quiet?????????PFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Fri Jan 12 1990 18:2810
    re.183  Praise the Lord, he's removed
    White_blind_optimism_for_losers_head's fingers and left him
    speechless!!!!!!!!!!
    
    What, no text, no FORMFEEDS,  I think I've reached nervana!!!!!
    
    Donks by 21
    
    JaKe
    
105.186GENRAL::GIBSONFri Jan 12 1990 18:5612
    
    Steven,
    I'm not even going to attempt to follow .177. I believe ya. It's
    pretty quite around here, CX01-1. But we are pretty busy. I'm just
    banging around in here while my tests are running. In all honesty, I
    hope it is a good game. I hate to pay what they get for tickets only to
    see a boring/blow-out/sloppy game. If you are out there Herv, my mom
    sent out Cleveland Dawgs shirts. I have an extra if you want to borrow
    it Sunday.
    
                                                   HOOT
    
105.187If it's Brown, then Flush it down!!COMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Fri Jan 12 1990 18:5816
      Heres one for you:
    
      Bernie went to the doctor for his elbow problem,
      The doctor told him to go home and bring back a urine sample,
      So Bernie went home and got urine from his mom, then his sister, then
    his dog,  but then he added some oil, then to top it off,  he jerked
    off in the cup.
      He then took the sample back to the doctor, and then the doctor told
    him...Your mom has herpies, your sister is pregnant, your dog is going
    to die,  your car needs a valve job,  AND IF YOU DON'T QUIT JERKING
    OFF,  YOUR ELBOW WILL NEVER HEAL!!!!
    
      GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    		Tim
105.188THE LAST WORD!!!7R7NET::LOGANFri Jan 12 1990 19:0113
    
    I wonder how many times 'Mini'field is going to complain 
    to the refs after Denvers WR's burn him.
    
    I have to admit, it is almost as much fun watching him get
    toasted as it was watching Lester get burnt.
    
    Expect a high scoring game, and a BRONCO victory....
    
    Then expect all the antidonks to be real quiet for a few days.
    
    
    Russ
105.189Browns, team of the 90s, SB boundCNTROL::GROSSGo BrownsFri Jan 12 1990 20:038
    Go Browns
    
    Go Bernie
    
    Go Dawgs
    
    Bill...I have to say that I'm gonna miss this note once the DAWGS maul
           the Donks.
105.190Go Broncos!!!COMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Fri Jan 12 1990 20:225
      The Browns are a bunch of dog turds...
    
      Broncos rule,  clowns choke!!
    
    		Tim
105.191TCOMET::EDWARDSBroncos...one week at a timeFri Jan 12 1990 20:4317
Just so you guys don't get uppitty, I want to let you know that all the
IMT systems in cxo1-2 will be going down this weekend from Sat. AM. to
Sunday PM. sometime.  Most of us aren't going to be able to get in here
untill late Sunday or monday.



however



BRONCOS STOMP ON THE MANGY DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



	ED^2
105.193Glad Its Over,Almost !!VLS3::RADICIONIMon Jan 15 1990 10:0520
    
    CONGRATULATIONS DONK'S and DONK'S fans... 
    
    The Bronco's looked good yesterday against a half-fast Browns team
    that was all banged up from last weeks game against the Bills. Its
    hard to believe Denver Bronco's are AFC Champs for the third time
    in four years.. 
    
    Well,all for not.. In two weeks there going to meet a team that
    will embarrass them again,like the first time.. Another,boring
    Super Bowl.. The game wasn't even over when the odd's makers were
    giving the 49er's the edge by 10 points.. It should be by 30 points..
    
    Well,live it up.. You have two weeks before you have your butts
    handed to you.. Try not to embarrass the AFC fans too much will
    ya !!
    
    The 49er's   60         Donkeys     13 
    
    A.J.
105.194Perspective...Its only a football game.LUDWIG::WHITEHAIRbubby brister, worlds greatest QBMon Jan 15 1990 10:0653
    
    The Browns lose...what a bummer!
    
    	Things I don't understand...
    
    	Bernie should have been taken out of the game and probibly 
    should not have played at all...how can you expect the guy to
    play with all that junk on his hand???  
    
    	What about the penalties???   The late hit on Kosar...no
    penalty...late hit on Teeth...penalty.  Out of bounds catch
    on Slaughter...he was in bounds.  Both of these calls came in
    the first half and on third down...they could have kept the
    drives going.  I could have sworn that I saw the Donks O line
    move on several occasions (two at least) and not get called, then
    on the time they don't move...they get called.  The refs must
    have realized they never flaged the Donks throughout the whole
    game.  Not to say that any of this would have changed the outcome
    of the game...but...maybe it would have.
    
    	I also don't think Mack was healthy either...I think his knee
    was worse than we were led to beleive.  I still give credit to
    the Dawg defense in the first half...but...in the second half when
    we needed them more...they get burned.  The offense looked like
    crap!  Too many dropped passes, too many overthrown passes, too
    many off target passes.  Can't really blame Bernie though.  I wonder
    how well I could have thrown with all that crap on my hand...?
    
    	I say, get read of the offensive coordinator!  Minifield and
    Dixon should go next year...they got burned to often...even though
    they just slipped or missed a hit...they still got burned...this
    is pro ball...that should not happen!  Look for harper and blalock
    to take those two posisitions next year...
    
    	I like to see how the Browns play in the playoffs with a
    healthly QB...I see a better team next year.
    
    	To the Broncos...I hope they play the game of their life on
    the 28th!  WIN WIN WIN!  I really hope they do.
    
    
    
    	Now, as for Eitherway...I would like to punch him in the teeth
    so hard that when he opened his eyes...he would see his ribs and
    think he was in jail!
    
    
    	Now, as for the P name...there you go Jake...don't expect
    to see it too often though...I'm in class for the rest of today,
    tomorrow and Wednesday...
    
    	GO CAVS!
    
105.195Skidmarkd in Mile HighPFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Mon Jan 15 1990 10:2715
    I had to drive from Detroit to Pittsburgh saturday and the stench near
    Clevescum was unbearable.  Come to think of it, the stench from the
    Brown(spot)s(tm) on NBC was very bearable.  The mutts lost bigtime.
    
    When I hit the tollbooth between the Ohio and Penna. turnpikes, there
    was a lady toll-taker with orange and brown yarn tied to a couple of
    large dog bisquits.  I asked her if she was a Brown(spot)s(tm) fan or
    if she was just getting ready for lunch.  She said both.
    
    Take San Fran and lay the points.  I heard it's 10-1/2 pts as of right
    now.
    
    
    JaKe
    
105.196Jan 28th won't be pretty for Denver fansWORDS::NISKALAFreezing my Filberts off!Mon Jan 15 1990 10:278
    	Congrats to the Broncos, the Browns looked pitiful while
    Elway picked them apart. If Denver plays that well in two weeks
    they might be able to keep the 49ers from winning by less than 14,
    otherewise look for the niners  to roll by about 24 points or more.
    	
    	Also congrats to Dr. Midnight who a few mere seconds before
    Dick Enberg mentioned it about the Cleveland player who's name is
    Gash, "Now that's a great football name." 
105.197beware of ref's with orange colored glasses!MILKWY::CHARRONI eat Frosted FlakesMon Jan 15 1990 10:5113
    
    not that I particularily like either team, but I sure hope the Donks 
    organization remembered to pay those referees after their game with
    the Browns. 
    
    65 yards worth of penalties for the Browns as opposed to 5 yards for
    the Donks, give me an 'effin brrreak!
    
   
    San Fran. vs. Dener in the Super Bowl, YAWWWWWWWWWWWWN.
    
   
    Brian
105.198SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Mon Jan 15 1990 11:078
       Hey Whitehair, you forgot to mention the bogus spot the Zebras
    gave the Donks in the last couple minutes of the 1st half. It gave
    them a 1st down, and kept the drive going. You're right about the
    catch they took away and the blatant favoritism on the Qb hits.
       The line went from 10 to 11 1/2 between 8:00 and 11:00 last night.
    I think the Donks will finally erase the worst blowout stigma from
    the Pats.
                                         Denny
105.199HTH2COMET::RYBICKISF 1, Donks 0Mon Jan 15 1990 11:1718
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Note 35.196       AFC CENTRAL CHAMPIONS - CLEVELAND BROWNS note       196 of 196
COMET::RYBICKI "SF 1, Donks 0"                       11 lines  15-JAN-1990 08:15
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    	In 1987, the Browns gave the Donks "The Drive".
    
    	In 1988, the Browns gave the Donks "The Fumble".
    
    	In 1990, the Browns gave the Donks  (the envelope, please...)
    
    	
    	THE FINGER!!!
    
    	JaD
105.200AXIS::ROBICHAUDDenver - The Team of the 90'sMon Jan 15 1990 11:284
105.201AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHCNTROL::GROSSGo BrownsMon Jan 15 1990 11:3918
    Was it me, or did the announcers keep saying "Elway" in stead of
    "Kosar" and vice-versa.  I can think of 3 or 4 occasions when the 
    names were interchanged.  If you were only listening to the game
    you would've never known who had the ball.  
    
    A couple of Bogus calls against the Browns, but it didn't matter
    much anyways.  The Referees let it be known that the fans could 
    make as much noise as they wanted from the very start.  I couldn't
    believe it.  Bernie turns to the ref to say he can't hear, and the ref
    throws a delay of game flag.  Bogus.
    
    Anyways, Elway was possessed.  Every time it looked like the Browns had
    him, he threw a 20 yd completion.  
    
    Con Grats to the Donks...  hope they can make a respectable appearance
    in the SB for the AFC.
    
    Bill
105.202can't tell the players apart even with a scorecardSTAR::YANKOWSKASLook Ma, no cavities!Mon Jan 15 1990 11:5010
    re .201:
    
    >	Was it me, or did the announcers keep saying "Elway" in stead of
    >   "Kosar" and vice-versa.
    
    Wasn't you Bill, I distinctly recall Dick Enberg saying Elway when he
    meant to say Kosar at least once.
    
    
    py
105.203PFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Mon Jan 15 1990 11:598
    Walsh Kept getting players confused throughout the game.  In my
    opinion, Walsh isn't one of the better color commentators that NBC
    has to offer, but he's getting paid too much to work the less
    prestigious games.  he should go back to coaching.
    
    
    JaKe
    
105.204It could only happen in DenverCNTROL::CHILDSHockey's Human ZamboniMon Jan 15 1990 12:0414
    
    Oh well atleast Elway played his best game of the year for his hometown
    fans. And the one and only offensive holding call of the day came
    against the Browns when they were still in the game at 31-21 with time
    and about to start another drive.....
    
    Carson could be dumber than Walton. No huddle works to perfection for
    one score he drops it. He rushes 3 men and contains Elway in the pocket
    and Johnny boy's throwing em in the dirt. He blitz him with 5 and 6
    guys and gets burnt and burnt again......
    
    21 points at 4-1 odds???
    
    mike
105.205GENRAL::WADEThis sheep dip is delicious!Mon Jan 15 1990 12:0525
    Thanks for all the congrats guys!  We appreciate it!
    
    It sure looked like Bernie's finger injury was hindering his
    passing.  His balls were floating on him (go ahead, I know
    somebody will catch that one ;^)  ).
    
    Metcalf was contained.  Good job by the special teams.
    
    If the Browns didn't have to play catch up, maybe Mack
    would have been more of a factor.
    
    I agree with the qb hit comments.  Call it one way or don't
    call it at all!  The only reason I could think of that they
    didn't call Dennis Smith for a late hit is that he didn't
    really nail Bernie.  Elway got tatered!
    
    I thought the game would be alot closer, especially with
    Kay, Kelly, and Humphrey out.  Elway was hot.  It's hard
    to stop him when he's on a roll. 
    
    It's been fun(?) bashing with you guys!  
    
    amf,
    
    Claybone
105.206really, it was the flu, not the Browns that made me PukeSNDCSL::HAUSRATHWho,Stones in '89. Zep in '90Mon Jan 15 1990 12:1532
    
    
    My turn to Congratulate the Broncos..   They definetly looked like the 
    better team yesterday, they also looked like they wanted this game 2
    times as much as the Browns did.  I'm in total agreement, and I assume
    the Donkey fans will be too, that the refs were definelty calling a 
    Bronco's game.  I couldn't believe the non-calls on the offensive line
    moving (one came on the Elway scramble with "late" hit).  But like 
    everyone has said, it wouldn't have made a difference.
    
    A couple thoughts on the Browns defense..  Carson screwed himself with
    all his blitzes.  The reason Denver hit the big plays was because
    sending 5 and 6 guys after Elway puts the corners in man-for-man
    coverage, and also means noone is down field to make tackles if Elway
    simply dumps a pass off (i.e. Winders catch and run for a 40 yard
    touchdown).  In addition I thought Elway had more trouble with zone
    defenses.  Blitzing every play was a bad decision!  Dixon and Minnifield
    have both lost a step, and it's costing them.  Finally, why do they always 
    give up a rushing first down on 3rd and long when the other team is trying 
    to run out the clock.  They did it again yesterday with about 6 minutes 
    left in the game, when they were still only down 13.  
    
    In terms of the offense..  not good.  Bernie's eratic throwing hurt
    them, plus that drop by Langhorn was a BIG mistake.  I believe Mack was
    definetly hurting, we seemed to see more of Manoa in there yesterday
    than most of the season, which hurt the pass protection.  Mack is a
    much better blocker.  
    
    In all, Denver deserves to go to the Bowl, they looked far superior to
    the team the Browns had on the field yesterday.  I don't envy Broncos
    though..  I wouldn't want to face that football machine from San Fran!    
    
105.207CSC32::J_HERNANDEZIf its Brown,Flush it down!!!Mon Jan 15 1990 12:271
    Hey A.J. .193 you wanna spot me the 30? Send mail, we'll talk. 
105.208Don't make excusesCOMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Mon Jan 15 1990 14:1728
      The congrats is great from the Anti's.  But where are all those clown
    fans that should be taking their bite of the bird???
    
      As to the refs calls...It was just another typical day for them!  I
    saw that play that took out Pat Kelly,  and of course the ref didn't
    call Johnson for that hit.  He pushed Kelly in the back past the 5
    yards,  and the end result was a cheep shot that blew out a knee.  Also
    Elway was hit late several times,  but I don't remember any calls.
    
      Anyway,  The Broncos are still the dominant AFC team!!
    
      Hey Whitehair and Groanowski,
    
      Broncos  3     Clowns   0
    
      Broncos rule,  clowns choke and puked!!!!
    
    
    	As long as the same Bronco team shows up in Jazz land as did
    yesterday,  then the 9's will get all they can handle.  The 9's looked
    very impressive yesterday,  as well as all year,  and they showed that
    they are the team to beat,  soooooo
    
    
    
    	GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!
    
    				Tim
105.209GENRAL::SURVILDying aint much of a livin,boyMon Jan 15 1990 14:497
    
    	When's the last time the Brownspots won a championship game?
    
    	Where's all the talk? Where's all the bull about how good the
    brownspots are?? Sour grapes, maybe??? Where's all the silly barking??
    
    Not even one kudo from the sports WORST fans.
105.210FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Mon Jan 15 1990 14:538
    The Browns won the AAFC title in 1946-1949 and won NFL titles in
    1950, 1954, 1955 and 1964.  That's a few more titles than the Broncos
    have ever won.
    
    I'm not a fan of either team, but congratulations to all you Denver
    fans.
    
    John
105.211QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceMon Jan 15 1990 15:165
     I really can't beleive that Gronowski and Whitehair aren't
    in here to at least defend their team....  I guess there just
    ain't much you can say....  The Donks Slamed The Dawgs Again !!
    
    Big Game
105.212SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Mon Jan 15 1990 15:263
       Whitehair was here someplace. The groaner must have moved on
    to cheer on the C(ad)avs.
                                     Denny
105.213My Mr T. impersonationCOMET::RYBICKISF 1, Donks 0Mon Jan 15 1990 15:4949
    
    	I have seen entries from both Paul and Whitehair in NOTES
    	today.  Probably in one of the kazillion other topics
    	that are somewhat relevant.  So...don't harp about their
    	absence.  As far as the congratulations go, I think I speak
    	for *a lot* of Browns fans when I say...
    
    	
    
    	ARF!!!  ARF!!!
    
    	Seriously, The Broncos played a good game, and Cleveland let
    	them control the flow.  Elway did his best Elway impersonation,
    	and it's hard to understand why the Browns weren't better
    	prepared to stop what they should have expected.  Anyone, however,
        who ignores or plays down the effect of the officiating is not
    	being realistic.  How much before gametime do the refs arrive?
    	Maybe they're getting here just in time to have the rare air
    	affect their decisions/eyesight/fairness, etc.  Before anyone
    	starts replying about how we Dawg fans can't give credit where
    	it is due, please reread after the formfeed.  will not state that
    	the Browns would have won with different calls, but I will state
    	that NOONE knows what the outcome of the game might have been if
    	Slaughter had been correctly ruled inbounds, or The Donks been
    	called for hitting Bernie after he was down (I don't remember
    	him going feet-first either, BTW), or Denver being called for some
    	of the more obvious infractions.  I will also NOT state that 
    	Cleveland would have won if Kosar was healthy, but, again, NOONE
    	knows.  Denver won this game.  Denver was the better team.  But,	
    	even owner Bowlen (I think) stated that Denver "needed the drive"
    	in '87, and "needed the fumble" in '88 to beat the Browns, so I
    	interpret that to mean that the element of luck plays a larger
    	part in the outcomes of these games than many Denver fans are
    	willing to admit.  If the Browns were not better than the Broncos
    	because they had beaten them earlier this year, than the Broncos
    	are not better than the Browns because they won yesterday, by the
    	same logic.  
    
    	If you've gotten this far, let me reiterate, to help stem the
    	tide of "poor loser" accusations, that the Broncos deserved to
    	win yesterday, becasue they executed better.  Elway was at his
    	best.  The best-team-of-the-moment came away the victor.  And,
    	for my own self-esteem, let me add...
    
    	
    	GO NINERS!!!
    
    	JaD
    	
105.214GENRAL::GIBSONMon Jan 15 1990 16:1122
    
    I wasn't going to say anything about the fans but Todd calling the
    Cleveland fans the "WORST", I can't resist. Actually I found most of it
    pretty funny but...
    
    About 25 yards from us in the parking lot was a contingent of Dawgs in
    full Dawg regalia. They were doing Cleveland cheers, not one word about
    Denver. Denver fans were giving them the finger, even though one of
    them was a little kid. A Denver radio station was set up in the parking
    lot. I couldn't believe it when they started a Cleveland Sucks chant
    over the PA. People had on F*ck Cleveland T-shirts. The one lady wasn't
    amused when I asked her if she was really planning on taking on the
    whole city. There were Cleveland Sucks T-shirts. I didn't see anyone
    wearing anything insulting to Denver, and there were allot of Cleveland
    fans there. It appeared that allot of Denver fans were trying to out
    Dawg the Dawgs. There were horse face masks, painted faces, dyed hair.
    Some of the Denver fans that were insulting the Dawgs for their get-ups
    in Cleveland should have been there. I could have sworn it was
    Halloween.
    
                                                   HOOT
    
105.215Fans get raddical everywhereCOMET::JACKSONTAGo D!!!!Mon Jan 15 1990 16:216
     Hey HOOT,  I thought you were a raider fan???  How come you seem to go
    too alot of Bronco games??  Did you have season tickets??
    
      Just curious,
    
    			Tim
105.217GENRAL::WADEifdreamscametrueahwouldn'tthatbenice!Mon Jan 15 1990 16:3122
    Yeah, those little kid Denver fans shouldn't be giving dawg
    fans the finger until they are at least 16...;^).
    
    Lest anyone think this is typical behavior for Denver fans, let
    me describe some of the things I saw at the Giants game.  There
    was plenty of light-hearted ribbing in the parking lot.  We
    sat in the notorious south stands.  Whenever a Giant fan would
    walk in front, people would razz them with light boos and hisses.
    The Giant fans would smile and the whole crowd would get quite
    a chuckle out of it.  Never, ever did it appear hostile.
    
    Not that it's right, but Denver being treated as badly as they
    were EVERY time they go to Cleveland probably brought this on.
    Where do you think, albeit stupid, the radio station got their
    idea of driving by the Browns hotel and honking their horns?
    Giving somebody the finger and wearing t-shirts is nothing
    compared to dog bones, batteries, and eggs being thrown!  I
    wish everybody would use better judgement when it comes to stuff
    like this.  However, it is usually just a few dip$hits causing
    the trouble......
    
    Claybone
105.218COOKIE::MJOHNSTONWith a sheep under each arm!Mon Jan 15 1990 16:3311
	You really ought to give it a rest HOOT. Fans get fired up, and half
the taunting is in fun, and helps get them charged up to support their team.
I've never been particularly upset if every fan in Cleveland dresses up like a
Dawg. And Donk fans do the same type thing. Are you telling me you see no
difference between wearing a F*ck Cleveland T-shirt, or yelling Cleveland
sucks.... and throwing bones, batteries, food, and beer at and on the opposing
team? Give me a break. As I mentioned earlier, the Brown orgnization handled
the loss like men, and I was impressed. The Dawg Pound would be well served by
taking a lesson from their team, and from Denver Fans.

Mike JN
105.219for the players.. just another day at workSNDCSL::HAUSRATHWho,Stones in '89. Zep in '90Mon Jan 15 1990 17:0315
   > the Brown orgnization handled the loss like men, and I was impressed.
   > The Dawg Pound would be well served by taking a lesson from their team
    
    It all boils down to the fact that fans get more hipped up for games
    than the players do.. the players get paid win or loose (although 
    advancing in the playoffs will get you a bigger bonus).  Fans get 
    bragging rights, and a feeling of satisfaction from a victory.  In 
    Celeveland, the Browns are a way of life, heck the first 5 minutes of 
    the sermon on Christmas eve at my home town church was about the Browns 
    victory over Houston (how it related to Christ was beyond me).  
    
    As Clay Matthews said yesterday.. with all the buildup and hype, it's 
    still just a game.    
    
    /Jeff
105.220Brown(spot)s(tm) macedPFSVAX::JACOBYou know where to put the cork..Mon Jan 15 1990 18:286
    Kosar gets spayed. Film at 11.
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
105.221GENRAL::GIBSONMon Jan 15 1990 20:5034
    
    
    Tim,
    Friends have season tickets. I went to the RAIDER and Charger regular
    season games and the Championship game. 
    
    
    Steven,
    Yep, sure did. Good looker, too. Glad she didn't swat me. I was just
    inquiring if that is what her T-shirt meant. She just gave me a look
    like she didn't know if she should be mad or laugh. My tone made it
    obvious that I was joking.
    
    
    RE: a couple of replies
    
    Nowhere did I equate throwing objects to vulgar chants. As a public
    service I put in that info to prevent some of the Denver fans from
    injuring themselves by patting themselves on the back so hard. Believe
    it or not there are jerks in every stadium in the country, Denver
    included. One of the guys that I went to the game with told me that
    last week some jerk sucker punched a Steeler fan for no apparent
    reason, other than being a Steeler fan. He said they were passing each
    other and this guy decked the Steeler fan and never broke stride.
    Considering that it was the AFC Championship game and the rivalry
    between the two, and their fans, I was amazed that a radio station
    would incite the crowd. When Cleveland pulled within 3, I let out a
    couple of whoops and a few people around me were obviously not in a
    friendly mood. So I just shut up. There are very few reasons to resort
    to physical violence and rooting for a damn football team certainly
    isn't one of them.
    
                                                   HOOT
    
105.222DASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Tue Jan 16 1990 09:1621
    Good points, Hoot.  
    
    I've seen this same behavior at Foxboro, Fenway, and, of course,
    the Gahden.  Also, I've witnessed it in Chicago, Milwaukee, New
    York, Cleveland and Detroit.  I'm sure I'd have seen it at other
    places, I just haven't been to them yet.  And, this is over the
    past 30 years or so.  It's not something new, but I do think it's
    gotten worse over the past 10 years.
    
    The shame of it all is that this is what is noticed/remembered about
    a particular stadium, city, etc.  The vast majority of fans of any
    given team are probably ashamed by the actions of a relatively few.
    
    Hey, I even know a few *ss-holes who work for DEC!  :*)
    
    Congrats to the Donk fans.  When all is said and done, the book
    will show that Denver won the AFC for the 1989 season.  NO asterisks
    about fans, weather, officiating, etc, just the scores and seasonal
    records.
    
    Lee
105.223GENRAL::WADEThe 68 Jets, 88 Dodgers, 89 Broncos!Tue Jan 16 1990 11:553
    HO HO, HA HA, HARDY HAR HAR!  Hoot the public servant!  ;^)
    
    Claybone
105.224COOKIE::MJOHNSTONWith a sheep under each arm!Tue Jan 16 1990 13:169
105.225AXIS::ROBICHAUDThe 49ers. A REPEAT performance.Tue Jan 16 1990 13:234
    	Hang in there HOOT, it takes a tough man to bait 'dem tender
    chickens.  
    
    				/Don
105.226I told you soooooooooooo !!!!!!!MSBVLS::RADICIONIMon Jan 29 1990 14:1815
    
    Re:207
    
      Naaaaaaaa,save your money.. It would have been like taking candy
    from a baby...
    
      Elway and the Bronco's sink !!
    
      My advice,save your money,don't gamble..
    
    I was real close.. I said RE:.193 ( 9er's 60 to Denver 13)
    
    Threepeat ??
    
    A.J.
105.227Jam It...... Take off you A$$HOLE !QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceMon Jan 29 1990 19:554
    You Clowns fans have no class !!
    
    Remember, the Broncos were the reason the Clowns didn't make it
    to the SB
105.228Where's my fin?GENRAL::GIBSONThu Feb 01 1990 19:265
    
    Quit your sniveling Jack and pay up!
    
                        HOOT
    
105.229QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceThu Feb 01 1990 19:283
    Be down tomorrow....  Hey, I'm going to the rock.  I'll pay ya there
    if ya come down
    
105.230GENRAL::GIBSONThu Feb 01 1990 19:419
    
    Just givin ya chit. You are one of the few that can take it.
    
    Actually I would like to thank the donks for another monumental
    massacre. If they weren't in the Bowl, I would have come out on
    the negative side this year.
    
                                                 HOOT